Rear bar check my logic please

[jetcrew]

Ok as you know I have researching options for a rear bar twin jerry and spare wheel.

Now I havew narrowed the list to 2

MCC - $1890.00  I like the price point the bar is nice to look at with clean lines, cant see one in flesh though, bolts above existing towbar, reasonably untested in rough terrain as I cant find any reviews.Resale value would be sub $1000. no gas struts.


Kaymar $3500 I don't like the price point  but the bar is a fully incorporated towbar, well tested and second to none in terms of strength as it bolts the chassis where tow bar normally would (this seems to be the big difference) clean lines and good swing arms with gas struts.

So over 5 years the mcc will cost $31.50 P/M =$1890 resale of $800ish SO $1890 - $800 = $1090.....  $1090 / 60 mths = $18.10

Over 5 years the Kaymar $58.30 P/M = $3500 resale $1800ish SO  $3500.00 -$1800 = $1700............  $1700/60mths  = $28.33


So from my calcs I am talking the difference of a cup of coffee per month over the 5 years.

More $$ upfront but the best bar avail with zero risk and guaranteed resale value judging by my attempts to find one   

Some one please confirm or deny my logic 

Don't get me wrong $1500 is alot of coin extra but I want to buy once buy right and not have any issues.

Jet  

 

[MarkGU]

Theo.
didnt you look at my MCC rear bar at Nymboida?

[chisel]

Did you consider the possible value (or lack of) added to the vehicle if you sell with the bar?
Kaymar - probably add something to the right buyer ... the other one, dunno.

[jetcrew]

Theo.
didnt you look at my MCC rear bar at Nymboida?

Yes I did mate, and it seemed quite well built, my issue is that I cant find a report about one that has travelled 10-20-30Ks with a tyre and 2 jerry's swinging off the back of on dirt roads.

I guess as a consumer I want to see the runs on the board so to speak, as a bar they look great and well priced but as twin swinger I,m just not sure.

It just comes down to guaranteed performance , I cant find a report of a failed Kaymar.

A rear bar is a big investment if you plan on travelling some of the roughest roads in aust, so the $1500 I save may end up costing me alot more than that. I raelly want to take the chance and save the $$$ but the little voice inside my head is already singing out "poor man pays twice" and with a rear bar a simple crack can be be big issues just the hassle of a remove /re-fit would see your $$ burnt up.

I am thinking 3.5K =best you can get 2K =unknown longevity.

Yeah the whole aussie made comes into a bit but that's not my main point (rightly or wrongly) I am more looking at proven performance in the harshest environment .

Jet    

[02-SR5]

Nothing worse when your gut tells you to go Kaymar and your head full of common sense says go the cheaper option.

I always go gut feeling these days.

[jetcrew]

Nothing worse when your gut tells you to go Kaymar and your head full of common sense says go the cheaper option.

I always go gut feeling these days.

well said mate pretty much how I feel

Jet

[Davepatrol]

Ever heard of getting what you pay for?
I've had a Kaymar bar with twin 33" MTZ's hanging off the back for just on ten years, It's been across the Simpson, up the Cape, the Vic High Country and lots of trips around the south Coast (NSW). It's been dragged over heaps of rock drop offs and except for a bit of paint missing it's as good as new .
Cheers Dave

[Bird]

I have a Kaymar, they are as heavy as fuk.. I'd be looking at other options.

[jetcrew]

Ever heard of getting what you pay for?
I've had a Kaymar bar with twin 33" MTZ's hanging off the back for just on ten years, It's been across the Simpson, up the Cape, the Vic High Country and lots of trips around the south Coast (NSW). It's been dragged over heaps of rock drop offs and except for a bit of paint missing it's as good as new .
Cheers Dave

Dave,

As someone who sells solar I sure have ......

Your exp with kaymar is what I keep reading online and talking with people . Hence my lening towards them .
That's a pretty good wrap 
Jet

[02-SR5]

I have a Kaymar, they are as heavy as fuk.. I'd be looking at other options.

But at least you know, what ever the bar hits, stays hit. It won't effect the bar at all.

I am getting a colour coded bar and intend to only fit the spare when we go away.

[jetcrew]

I have a Kaymar, they are as heavy as fuk.. I'd be looking at other options.

I have a 4.7ltr V8 with Koni raids , think I will be right with the weight .
Jet

[jetcrew]

But at least you know, what ever the bar hits, stays hit. It won't effect the bar at all.

I am getting a colour coded bar and intend to only fit the spare when we go away.

This is my thoughts  colour code bar but not swingers

Jet

[02-SR5]

I will be getting the spare wheel mount too, but only fit it when we go away. No point around town and I like I can access the boot without the need to swing open the spare first.

[Bird]

I have a 4.7ltr V8 with Koni raids , think I will be right with the weight .

The power is not the issue, you may have to think again on th suspension though...

[oldmate]

I have a 4.7ltr V8 with Koni raids , think I will be right with the weight .
Jet

It is also 100 odd kg of payload taken up. Bar with swing arms.

[jetcrew]

The power is not the issue, you may have to think again on th suspension though...

Why so

KTRR HD springs / poly airs / 90 series raids not sure what would be an improvement over that.

[jetcrew]

Sorry I might not have been clear , I am not confused about weather to put a rear bar on or not..just the brand /prices.

I have the payload and the car to move the payload so all good.

Jet

[Swannie]

Go the kaymar because every time you look at the cheap alternative or you have a problem with it you will kick yourself. Go on I know you want to BUY IT

Swannie

[Mrs smith]

Ok as you know I have researching options for a rear bar twin jerry and spare wheel.

Now I havew narrowed the list to 2



So over 5 years the mcc will cost $31.50 P/M =$1890 resale of $800ish SO $1890 - $800 = $1090.....  $1090 / 60 mths = $18.10

Over 5 years the Kaymar $58.30 P/M = $3500 resale $1800ish SO  $3500.00 -$1800 = $1700............  $1700/60mths  = $28.33




More $$ upfront but the best bar avail with zero risk and guaranteed resale value judging by my attempts to find one   

Some one please confirm or deny my logic 

Don't get me wrong $1500 is alot of coin extra but I want to buy once buy right and not have any issues.

Jet  

With cheap imports (just like solar panels) flooding the market you may find in 5 years
someone interested in a rear bar will be thinking the same about the difference in price between your secondhand bar or the new cheapo, so your $1800.00 resale might end up a lot lower in another 5 years. $1200 to $1500 might be closer to the mark, it's only a
little more coffee.

[oldmate]

Sorry I might not have been clear , I am not confused about weather to put a rear bar on or not..just the brand /prices.

I have the payload and the car to move the payload so all good.

Jet

Yeah mate under stand that. Kaymar are bloody heavy.  Strong yes, quality yes, but heavy, compared to some others.   
But if your not worried about the weight go for it man.  They are good
Edit :  just giving you something else to consider that is all. 

[D4D]

Something else to consider, the missus would kill me if she had to swing tyres out of the way to open the back door to put the shopping or pram in the back. She already hates it with the drawers in now.

[DaveR]

You could always save even more coin by building your own, I know a dodgy bloke who built one for the back of his troopy.
Can't wait to see a plastic car hangin of the back of it

[jetcrew]

Yeah mate under stand that. Kaymar are bloody heavy.  Strong yes, quality yes, but heavy, compared to some others.   
But if your not worried about the weight go for it man.  They are good
Edit :  just giving you something else to consider that is all. 

hey buddy sorry was not having a dig Think I have worn my brain out today and had a mini snap 

My bad

you and Lost did get thinking I should at least confirm 100% the weight of the bar as it incorporates the tow bar also got figures from 60-118kg so need to find out 100% Dad reckons $3.5K buys a fair trailer to cart my crap LOL

Jet  

[oldmate]

All good man!

Your old man is on the money also. In fact you and your old man are pretty handy with a welder. Why not make one?  Mine cost a grand and is 70kg with twin tyre carriers.

[KieranR]

just buy the Kaymar - sounds like you already know you want to get it, if thats what your "leaning towards" dont talk yourself out of it.  youve done the research.