LED light bars - QLD regs - update may 2013

Started by Nutto, September 20, 2012, 11:36:59 AM

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Nutto

Some oxygen thief in Qld transport has jumped in and released this instruction regarding LED light bars...
Only in Qld...... >:(

http://www.cviaq.com.au/PDFs/VSI%20HV25.0%20Driving%20Lamps.pdf

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austastar

Hi,
   I can see where he is coming from, but he is totally out of touch with reality.
Regulations are playing catch up with technology, and missed the boat.
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britts

Even my spotties in the middle of my bull bar aren't 600mm apart


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austastar

Quote from: Lost on September 20, 2012, 12:03:31 PM
Whats the big problem with it?


Hi
  probably and existing requirement for lights to be fitted in pairs, symmetrically, and wired into high beam unless they are fog lights.


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Bird

Quote from: austastarprobably and existing requirement for lights to be fitted in pairs, symmetrically, and wired into high beam unless they are fog lights.
so you put the small divider in there like the example, its not like they are banning them.

it was only matter of time, I've been blinded 203948230948 times by pricks with them that feel you need to know they have LED light bars at night..
Same with HID headlights.
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Nutto

Struggle to see the point of a small divider ???   No matter what spot lights or LED's are up front, they are never supposed to be seen by anyone oncoming when operating, so why bother with a petty rule like putting a 2 inch divider in a LED lightbar?

FWIW, I don't have a LED lightbar or HID lights, and agree about wankfactors using these in built up areas

prodigyrf

First they came for the LED lights and then the bull-bars  :police:

And to think that orrible Campbell Newman wants to cut 14000 of these jokers sitting around in 'meetings bloody meetings' just cooking up the next make work program for all their mates.
What sorta unorstrayun bloke is this Campbell Newman and what were them banana benders thinking at the time?
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MrCruza

Note the bit about "Driving lamps must be at the front of the vehicle". There goes your roof mounted lights...

And there's nothing new about the regs. They're the same as they've allways been. It's just a notice to say,
"Hey, if you want to fit a light bar it must still comply with the existing regs. And just to show we're really good guys, if you put this little divider in we'll let you get away with one bar"
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Quote from: MrBitchi on September 20, 2012, 01:27:33 PM
Note the bit about "Driving lamps must be at the front of the vehicle". There goes your roof mounted lights...

They are illegal already

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Black tape used for the light bars would work.

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griz066

So we should expect to see a decline in the utes with 4 & 6 spotties on the roll bar and another 2 on the bull bar. :cheers:
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DeLuxHiLux

Seriously??? Because a light bar looks soooooo much like a motorbike...... Surely QLD Cops have better things to do........
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jim-m-72

does this make bikes with twin headlights ilegal too dont know if anyone has 600 mm between the spot lights as per regs
dyslexics of the world untie

alnjan

Quote from: DeLuxHiLux on September 22, 2012, 09:37:25 PM
Seriously??? Because a light bar looks soooooo much like a motorbike...... Surely QLD Cops have better things to do........

Consider when the Regulations were written there may not have been any lights the dimensions of a light bar that could be attached to a vehicle.  Easier to modify the lights then it is to change a Regulation, that the law makers not the law enforcers.   The Regs seem to be the same for NSW
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Al and/or Jan

sandman

What about 4wd's that have a single spottie? Do they have to put a shade down the middle of them now??

alnjan

Pretty rare for a 4wd to just a single spottie, generally in pairs or more
Cheers

Al and/or Jan

MrCruza

Quote from: sandman on September 23, 2012, 09:17:34 AM
What about 4wd's that have a single spottie? Do they have to put a shade down the middle of them now??

Single spoties are and allways have been illegal. They should allways be mounted in pairs.   :police:
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Bird

Quote from: MrBitchi on September 23, 2012, 10:12:14 AM
Single spoties are and allways have been illegal. They should allways be mounted in pairs.   :police:
and your supposed to run them in prs - 2x spread OR 2 x spot....
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truck

Quote from: Lost on September 23, 2012, 10:43:54 AM
and your supposed to run them in prs - 2x spread OR 2 x spot....
Seriuslly? Is that law lost or opinion Lost?
I prefer the 2xspots but most of the shops I have been in sell mostly as 1 of each to a pack.
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truck

Bird

Quote from: truckSeriuslly? Is that law lost or opinion Lost?
Thats the rules. but one of the rules they dont enforce.
Its funny since Hella (and others)sell them in 1 of each sets, and have for 30yrs....
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Really can't see what the fuss is about, the ADR hasn't changed in years.  Everyone knows the rules, no one is forcing you to break them.
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BigJules

Roofrack mounted lights would only be illegal if wired in to operate with high beam, by my reading of the regulations. If questioned, the owner would refer to them as work place illumination lights, specifically mounted away from the front of the vehicle so as to not be confused as driving lights.

On a recent trip through central QLD I came across some vehicles with incredible lights, blinding up close. I didn't have a problem with them, unless they were thoughtless and didn't dip until too close. The law states one must dip high beam when within 200m of oncoming vehicles, and this might also be a victim of technology, as 200m seems too close with some lights.

Personally, I dip my high beams as soon as possible when I see an oncoming vehicle.
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Quote from: BigJules on September 30, 2012, 07:05:26 PM
as 200m seems too close with some lights.
Personally, I dip my high beams as soon as possible when I see an oncoming vehicle.
1km would be to close for some lights.
I'm with you, I dip as soon as possible.
Now what about those that come from behind that leave these on so as to cast a shadow of your vehicle in front of your own vehicle with your own spotties on.
Now that really pi55e5 me Grrr  >:D
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