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Title: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 06, 2014, 09:01:34 AM
Hi Everyone,

Keen to hear from anyone who has retro fitted a Burke & Wills swag to make it self standing. I see a number of swags now that have poles running up the middle holding the hoops up. I am keen to make something like this, similar to the ARB swag i have attached below.

Any idea's out there?  :cheers:
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on May 06, 2014, 12:33:20 PM
They just use spreader poles.
It  will be how the poles attach to the hoops that's the trick.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Nay-DMAX on May 06, 2014, 12:36:38 PM
We have just purchased a kulkyne swag and it is just like a spreader pole through the middle the poles at either end have lips that keep the swag attached and the spreader just clips onto these poles and has a piece of Velcro at the middle.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 06, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
Are they using those light fold out camping poles like he swag hoops?
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Nay-DMAX on May 06, 2014, 06:19:46 PM
Not in the one we have it is more like a smaller in diameter tent pole the type that has the springs inside to pull apart and fold down into 3 hope that makes sense not sure if you could get a good enough photo of kulkyne web site to see what I mean
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: bspink101 on May 06, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
My Darche dusk to dawn swag has a pole that extends and goes into eyelets at each end just under the loops.......
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 07, 2014, 04:37:27 PM
Thanks. Might have to look at a way i can attach to the hoops or insert a eyelet so i can hook the spreader bar up some how.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: chester ver2.0 on May 07, 2014, 04:55:59 PM
We have just purchased a kulkyne swag and it is just like a spreader pole through the middle the poles at either end have lips that keep the swag attached and the spreader just clips onto these poles and has a piece of Velcro at the middle.

Off topic and i am sorry but are the Kulkyne swags aussie canvass as i like the look of the one that comes with its own base to get you off the ground

Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Bird on May 07, 2014, 04:57:47 PM
Have you contacted Burke and Wills?
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Meltdown on May 07, 2014, 06:33:37 PM
Have you contacted Burke and Wills?
They are lost.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Nay-DMAX on May 07, 2014, 07:09:13 PM
Off topic and i am sorry but are the Kulkyne swags aussie canvass as i like the look of the one that comes with its own base to get you off the ground

Chester I am not sure if the homestead one which is the off the ground one is the same maker as the one that we just got, if you contact kulkyne they will be able to help you out the website just says 13oz for both of them haven't slept in it yet but it seems ok
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 07, 2014, 07:15:14 PM
Have you contacted Burke and Wills?

Yes, but no reply on email.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: fuji on May 07, 2014, 07:42:13 PM
The pole on my SC swag
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: bspink101 on May 07, 2014, 08:21:06 PM
Photo of my darche swag with pole
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Yimmy on May 07, 2014, 08:32:29 PM
Which Burke & Wills swag do you have, this may assist in understanding how to make it work?

We have 3 B&W Simpson swags in the family, these stand quite happily with minimal tie downs.

In fact I throw mine onto a stretcher, as I get older the extra bit of comfort is enjoyed ;D

Jim
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 07, 2014, 08:50:14 PM
Which Burke & Wills swag do you have, this may assist in understanding how to make it work?

We have 3 B&W Simpson swags in the family, these stand quite happily with minimal tie downs.

In fact I throw mine onto a stretcher, as I get older the extra bit of comfort is enjoyed ;D



Jim

I have a coolabah (xl), i have used a single on a stretcher, but my xl does not fit.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Barry G on May 07, 2014, 09:02:16 PM
Have you contacted Burke and Wills?
They are lost.
No Lost is lost.
Burke and Wills are in Melb General Cemetary...   :angel:
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Bird on May 07, 2014, 11:42:09 PM
Quote from: Ben...
Yes, but no reply on email.
they may have this old fashion thing.. From memory I think they are called a telephone.. someone may correct me on this...

It was used in ancient times for communicating with people, and the voices magically travelled down a wire!!!

You will find many business never reply to email..
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Ben... on May 08, 2014, 08:46:57 PM
they may have this old fashion thing.. From memory I think they are called a telephone.. someone may correct me on this...

It was used in ancient times for communicating with people, and the voices magically travelled down a wire!!!

You will find many business never reply to email..

I do this new world thing called work, leave in the dark, get home in the dark, and find said business is closed, hence the phone you speak of does not work. Please be kind enough not to be sarcastic, and understand everyone has different circumstances and reasons to the methods they communicate. Cheers.   
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: gowalkabout on May 10, 2014, 08:59:11 AM
Go and have a talk to your local canvas person they may have some good ideas and you will also get an idea of cost. You may find that after paying for a set of poles and paying to have some sewing done it might not be much more to just buy a new swag depending on what you want
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Swogjb on May 10, 2014, 09:05:22 AM


 :cup:
Now that's a good looking swag.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: discoteddy on May 10, 2014, 10:02:49 AM
I do this new world thing called work, leave in the dark, get home in the dark, and find said business is closed, hence the phone you speak of does not work. Please be kind enough not to be sarcastic, and understand everyone has different circumstances and reasons to the methods they communicate. Cheers.



 :cup:

Well said, describes lots of us here I expect.


Cheers

Disco teddy.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Roo on May 10, 2014, 01:10:19 PM
Chester I am not sure if the homestead one which is the off the ground one is the same maker as the one that we just got, if you contact kulkyne they will be able to help you out the website just says 13oz for both of them haven't slept in it yet but it seems ok

The Kulkyne swags are imported so I suspect they are not made from Aussie canvas but then again who knows, I suggest you ask Kulkyne; they were very helpful when we bought ours. 2 years on were partly living in ours as we travel.

Back to topic, show us a pic of the B&W swag and something can always be jiggered up.
Title: Re: Burke & Wills Swag - Retro fit to make self standing?
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on May 10, 2014, 07:08:37 PM


Can you  get a spreader pole with a spike each end?
That'll do to hold the main part. 
Use shock cord as a small loop to go under hoop and back on the spike.
Spreader pole is anchored to the hoops.
Measure up the distance between the foot end and the middle loop.
Measure your tent poles and when you find the one that's longer in the spike end.
Flatten the end and make it into a U shape.  So the U drops onto the hoop.
The U shape sits over the hoop and held  in place by shock cord.
The spike end fits to the middle loop just like your first pole down the middle line of the swag top.
That'd do it, I reckon.

There must be lot's of other ways.