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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: dazzler on May 04, 2014, 11:46:07 AM
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A strange one for myswag but interested in your thoughts.
We have just bought a new place. Three bedrooms/two living/two bath/two garage.
We 'DID' have just have the three coming with us which is fine as two always share and the kids are never in their rooms except for sleeping. Otherwise they are in the living rooms or outside.
However, much to mums delight, our uni son will be coming up as well. Not a biggie as I am happy to add a fourth bedroom to the place and there is an area where that can go (will post a drawing) but this got me to thinking.
I am almost fifty and the four year old will not be leaving home I imagine until I am at least sixty five so the house will have kids there. But, lots of family and friends who retire end up with four bedroom houses and only one bedroom being used with one as a guest room and the others stinking of old people smell.
Sooooo, would it make more sense to carport the area where the bedroom was going to to go and where a large, dare I say it, caravan lives. Say a Jayco extenda or similar. This gives the oldest one their own 'flat' so to speak with a small kitchen, living area to study and to be self contained somewhat.
About three times a year we commandeer it to go away and they move into our room while we are away.
The oldest is easy to get along with so either option would suit.
Your thoughts?
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Are you sure you will live there forever? If not the bedroom should add value to your house when you sell it. We decided not to extend and our 27 & 25 year olds are still with us. We probably made the wrong decision :-[
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Here are some basic pics of the options. The house has modern skillion roofs so whichever way we go will not be a cheap option as it will match the profile.
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our 27 & 25 year olds are still with us. We probably made the wrong decision :-[
Nooooooooo!
I am pretty sure this will be the last one until I start to dribble saliva down my chin and people help me blow out candles.
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Dazzler you van will smell like Pot/ vodka/ spew/ dirty washing/ BO/ semen or all of them everytime you wish to use it.
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Dazzler you van will smell like Pot/ vodka/ spew/ dirty washing/ BO/ semen or all of them everytime you wish to use it.
PMSL
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I wouldn't extend, that just invites them to stay at home longer, in fact I would be commandeering one of the existing rooms as a bar, have the 3 existing kids sleep on blow up beds in the other bedroom, that way they will want to move out quicker. Imagine the money you will save.
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When your all sitting down over dinner one evening just say, times are tough and due to economical changes, that you have made a decision and decided that one of the kids has to go. Ask them to work out who and walk away. I did this and the look you will get is priceless.
Mark
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When your all sitting down over dinner one evening just say, times are tough and due to economical changes, that you have made a decision and decided that one of the kids has to go. Ask them to work out who and walk away. I did this and the look you will get is priceless.
Mark
;D ;D
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When your all sitting down over dinner one evening just say, times are tough and due to economical changes, that you have made a decision and decided that one of the kids has to go. Ask them to work out who and walk away. I did this and the look you will get is priceless.
Mark
Mark , that is :cup:!
I am going todo this to our kids in a few years.. Not yet though, they are only 6, 4 and 8 weeks.
But I do like your thinking.
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When your all sitting down over dinner one evening just say, times are tough and due to economical changes, that you have made a decision and decided that one of the kids has to go. Ask them to work out who and walk away. I did this and the look you will get is priceless.
Mark
Do I leave a knife on the table? :D
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No. Not in the day and age
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When your all sitting down over dinner one evening just say, times are tough and due to economical changes, that you have made a decision and decided that one of the kids has to go. Ask them to work out who and walk away. I did this and the look you will get is priceless.
Mark
Exactly. Winner!!! :cup:
And make sure you don't walk past a mirror as you walk away.
They'll be watching in disbelief, gobsmacked.
Not a good time for em to see you smirking.
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Extend, give us poor tradesman some work, times are tough. >:D ;D ;D
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Extend, give us poor tradesman some work, times are tough. >:D ;D ;D
Maybe we should start a 'need a tradie' thread :)
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Last year we did major renovations and part of these Reno’s was adding 2 bedrooms, Shower/Toilet/TV area downstairs for the kids to use when they got older.
Downside is it will probably mean they will be living at home forever. Upside is they have area which means they can have some privacy with their friends. Only time will tell, but our take is we would prefer they do whatever they do in the safety of their own home instead of a park or a stranger’s house.
At the moment one of those bedrooms get used for when I come home drunk or when my wife decides to have a good old snore.
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Have you thought about a shipping container for the eldest? Gold if they give you the sh1ts - wait until they're asleep, lock it up (from the outside), load it up and frieght it to where-ever. ;D
And when they finally leave - great storage.
Tim
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that way they will want to move out quicker. Imagine the money you will save.
I can catagorically state that having a child move out of home in no way saves money, at least for the first few years :)
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I can catagorically state that having a child move out of home in no way saves money, at least for the first few years :)
x 1 million, parents are the best mobile lenders out. ;D
Mark
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I can catagorically state that having a child move out of home in no way saves money, at least for the first few years :)
It does if you do it right.
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au (http://www.defencejobs.gov.au)
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Only time will tell, but our take is we would prefer they do whatever they do in the safety of their own home instead of a park or a stranger’s house.
mate of mine worked on that theory, let the boyfriend move in while the daughter was 15... talk about handing her up on a platter. ****ed in the head if you ask me..
Yep she got up the duff within a few mths, abortion, and again less than a year later, and again... kept that one, and now 3 lives are rooted. Hes a deadShit who wont work but sits home on drugs, and she cant work as shes lazy.. no hope for the kids.
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I have 2 girls still at home, 23 and 20, both at uni and working part time.
We are in the process of renovating / updating a few things.
Have bought a place in the bush as well to use as a base.
Once the time us right, the girls can take over the bills and pay rent, as we are moving out.
OR, we sell up and they move out and find their own path.
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Dont want this thread to turn into a tirade of older child angst but dont do the caravan thing, it will be rooted, unless your son is one of 0.5% of uni student who actually clean up after themselves. Things you take for granted as in the most basic items like Milo or Bread, beer and other day to day items will disappear into the black hole that is the caravan. Been there, done that with our 19yo. The turning point was him getting a full time job.
Unless of course he pays for it, then by crikey, you're golden.
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THanks all.
An extension it is.
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I can catagorically state that having a child move out of home in no way saves money, at least for the first few years :)
Yes that is true :'(
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And I don't think your boy will be keen to move back in after you make the van smell like old people ;p
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That's the trick.
Make the Van smell like Ol' people.
Bring it back, telling him, "It's that or find your own."
Quite simple really.
And don't let him see you grinning like a monkey, as you walk away.
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I don't think you'll be able to extend Dazzler, you might encroach on the boundary setback. Not sure if its 900 or 1800mm setback on that boundary and you have to stay 6m from the front boundary. I kinda sorta maybe might've been the estimator/contract manager for that build and part of the existing additions, it started life as a 2 bed 1 bath cottage.
Anstey homes built it, they're still around as far as I know in Byron bay, Mike Matthewson is/was the draftsman and general dude to get the DA's done guy. He'll be able to tell you if you can or can't.
A mate of mine was chief hammer swinger and supervisor for the builds, he is just across town, has his own building company now, highly recommended tradesman. Matt Pedlow, Pedlow building 0402 363 378. Yes I would recommend Matt over the other mob to do any extension if it is even possible.....but I don't think it will...unless you go up?.
I'm retired. Nuff said????
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I don't think you'll be able to extend Dazzler, you might encroach on the boundary setback. Not sure if its 900 or 1800mm setback on that boundary and you have to stay 6m from the front boundary. I kinda sorta maybe might've been the estimator/contract manager for that build and part of the existing additions, it started life as a 2 bed 1 bath cottage.
Anstey homes built it, they're still around as far as I know in Byron bay, Mike Matthewson is/was the draftsman and general dude to get the DA's done guy. He'll be able to tell you if you can or can't.
A mate of mine was chief hammer swinger and supervisor for the builds, he is just across town, has his own building company now, highly recommended tradesman. Matt Pedlow, Pedlow building 0402 363 378. Yes I would recommend Matt over the other mob to do any extension if it is even possible.....but I don't think it will...unless you go up?.
I'm retired. Nuff said????
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:cup: :cup: small world :cup: :cup:
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I still own the house 2 down across the road.???? might come back one day....might not.????
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I don't think you'll be able to extend Dazzler, you might encroach on the boundary setback. Not sure if its 900 or 1800mm setback on that boundary and you have to stay 6m from the front boundary. I kinda sorta maybe might've been the estimator/contract manager for that build and part of the existing additions, it started life as a 2 bed 1 bath cottage.
Anstey homes built it, they're still around as far as I know in Byron bay, Mike Matthewson is/was the draftsman and general dude to get the DA's done guy. He'll be able to tell you if you can or can't.
A mate of mine was chief hammer swinger and supervisor for the builds, he is just across town, has his own building company now, highly recommended tradesman. Matt Pedlow, Pedlow building 0402 363 378. Yes I would recommend Matt over the other mob to do any extension if it is even possible.....but I don't think it will...unless you go up?.
I'm retired. Nuff said????
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Hi Roo and thanks heaps for the advice.
I got a copy of the plans and I can get two bedrooms on the right side looking from the front. JUST!
Will give Matt a ring. I saw the costings on the extension. Not cheap.
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Daz, What are your expectations of cost vs value added? Generally there is a very wide gap in the cost: benefit ratio. The figures you've seen already should show that quite clearly.
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Thanks all for your advice here and by pm. Won't make a decision for a month or so in the meantime have done a sketchup model of the place ( just skip so nothing flash).
Here is it as it is;
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/19/umy3yzu4.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/19/8etaruva.jpg)
And 3.6 x 4.8 front bedroom;
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/19/uqy5emyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/05/19/e6y7y9a4.jpg)
Cheers.
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Why do they need their own rooms.....??
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Why do they need their own rooms.....??
Even with a fourth bedroom we will still have two sharing.
Happy for the young ones to share but its a bit of an ask for the oldest studying a double degree at uni to share with his 12 yo....
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Even with a fourth bedroom we will still have two sharing.
Happy for the young ones to share but its a bit of an ask for the oldest studying a double degree at uni to share with his 12 yo....
That's fair enough dazz.
Most people these days seem to think every kid must have their own room.
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That's fair enough dazz.
Most people these days seem to think every kid must have their own room.
LB not only insists on each kid having their own room but now that 2 of 3 have moved out of home they still have to have their own room for when they visit!!!
Having said that no. 2 son is likely to run out of money in 6 months and move back home again, one of those yoyo kids.
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Yep
Everythihg was FINE until JP decided to come with us. Though he is a great young adult so all good and mum is happy happy happy.
We had planned on the 4yo in her own room, the 7 and 12 in the other and mum and I in the master.
Now its gunna be JP in his room with a study desk, 7 and 12 in the other one and the 4 yo on a day bed in the family room off ours.
I agree with the sharing thing. Our kids only ever sleep in their rooms the rest of the time they are in the family, study or outside.
cheers
daz
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Have you considered adopting them out ? Hehe just joking glad you have a lovely family
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