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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: garbage on March 01, 2011, 03:46:54 PM
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After many years of pronouncing the "Jer" in Jervis just like you pronounce the "Ger" in German, I keep coming across people that pronounce it "Jarvis Bay". Have I been wrong all along?
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I've always called it Jarvis
until I was corrected by a local ... my cousin lives there now and she also calls it "Jervis"
Stevo
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After serving in the Navy both at Nowra and on ships frequenting the bay it is JERvis Bay ;D
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After serving in the Navy both at Nowra and on ships frequenting the bay it is JERvis Bay ;D
Amen brother! :D
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I do the opposite to whatever the other person I am talking to calls it. 8)
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Its pronounced zjarvis bay after ther spanish explorer Álvaro Zjarvis
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Living on the south coast mate I would call it jervis but I too have heard it said Jarvis . It is either way really. Most south coast people use the jervis pronunciation .
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The same scenario also applies to Hervey Bay. Usually referred to as Har-Vee-Bay (Harvey) but should probably pronounced as HER-VEE-BAY (Hervey) I guess it depends on where you live, but would be interesting to hear how the locals pronounce both Jervis and Hervey. ???
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The correct (Polish) pronunciation for Mt Kosciusko is apparently Kos choos koe.
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I've been living at Jervis Bay on an off for more than 25 years and have been visiting the area since the mid 70's. Heard both versions used extensively and passionate debate about the subject often erupts between those with not much else to worry about.
So when in doubt - turn to Wikipedia!
"Jervis Bay is named after the British Admiral John Jervis, 1st Earl of St Vincent; it was named in 1791 by Richard Bowen. George Bass also entered the Bay when he surveyed the South East coast of Australia in 1797. Jervis was believed to have pronounced his name /?d??rv?s/, but many residents of Jervis Bay (including his descendants) pronounce it [?d???v?s]."
I've always called it "Jarvis" - don't know why but suspect some bluff old Naval Historian badgered us about it when we were at the Naval College. In any case there's plenty of locals who use "Jervis" and plenty who use "Jarvis". Seems there's lots of unusual pronunciations that vary between the English (as in British) use and the Australia use. e.g. Launceston iin Australian is Laun-ces-ton - makes sence to me! But in the UK it's Launs-ton! Lazy Poms!
As for Kosciusko - it's spelling was changed to the propoer Polish Kosciuszko in the late '90s to reflect the proper pronunciation...
As for Jervis Bay... I'll stick with the way the old Admiral wanted his name pronounced. :D
But either way, it's a top spot for a bit of camping!
:cheers:
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Well there you go. Facts have ruined a good argument... i dont know what Álvaro would make of all this
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I really don't know but I'm heading to Newcarstle next week so if you need help with your pronuuncia, sorry prownoneciation, sorry again - naming ovv fings then I'm your man!!!!!! :cheers:
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Well there you go. Facts have ruined a good argument... i dont know what Álvaro would make of all this
Sorry Darren... Of course if I had to pick an answer in a quiz, I'd go for me old mate Álvaro every time! :D
Surely though, he has an outrageous collection of middle names to add to his nautical heritage??
I do the opposite to whatever the other person I am talking to calls it. 8)
I also like to do this when the debate heats up - great sport winding up the bluff old naval historians! :laugh:
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I love to call things like the people who visit the area's as they give some corker of pronunciations.
Spelling - Proncounced - funky visitor pronouncement
Yatala - Yat-la - Ya-tar-la
Gaven - Gay-Van - Gar-vin
Brisbane - Bris-bin - Bros-Baine (although I prefer Bris-Vegas)
Nanango - Nan-an-go - Nanna-nang-ga
Gympie - Gim-pee - Gim-pie
Nerang - Na-rang - Mer-ang
Logan - Low-gan - Log-on
There are many more, but those are my fav's. I use them every chance I git!
Kit_e
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Now that we have Jervis Bay sorted, what about Nelligen ??
Is it Nelligen as in 'NelliJEN or NelliGEN with the emphasis on the 'g' ??
I think it is NelliJEN, after all we pronounce oxygen as oxyJEN don't we ??
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Bit like a visit to the kimberley or kimberley's..?
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Is 'Albany' pronounced 'ALL BANY' or 'AL BANY'?
Is Hopetoun pronounced 'HOPE TOWN' or HOPE TUN'?
(Do I take a 'BATH' or 'BARTH'.)
Who cares, as long as YOU know where your going!!
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Yep, we refer to Jervis Bay simply as JB. Always seem to know where we're headed.
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Bit like a visit to the kimberley or kimberley's..?
But geez mate. You should know there are more than two of them
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Port Canberra, as it pisses everybody off because they don't know where I'm really going and that realise I'm a know all bastard
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Is 'Albany' pronounced 'ALL BANY' or 'AL BANY'?
Is Hopetoun pronounced 'HOPE TOWN' or HOPE TUN'?
(Do I take a 'BATH' or 'BARTH'.)
Who cares, as long as YOU know where your going!!
No the two towns are pronounced differently.
In WA it's Al bany, in NSW it's All bany 8)
As for bath
you )BAYTH) BATH a child in the (BARTH) BATH or you go swimming at the (BARTHS) BATHS in your (BAYTHERS) BATHERS(Togs) ;D
Tomayto tomarto ???
Baz.
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"e.g. Launceston iin Australian is Laun-ces-ton - makes sence to me! But in the UK it's Launs-ton! Lazy Poms!"
I know someone who used to live there who insists it MUST be LON-ceston. Any other pronunciation is practically a criminal offence if you are within her hearing range.
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Dont forget Melbn.
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Strewth, I was confused enough allready............. ???
..............So I may as well add to it...............
My pet hate is people who refer to "an" historic event.
It has always been "a" historic. Why the change in the last few years?
Or perhaps Im being a bit too (*) retentive.............
Hopefully some of you sesquipedalians out there could prove to e which it really is???
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I seem to remember back in the dim dark ages at school being taught something about words beginning with "h" should have "an", not "a" before them - but people generally didn't do it. (An hotel was an example they used to give, which always sounded stupid to me.)
Something to do with the way it used to be almost silent, as in the way the French say things - they sound like they aren't saying the "h" at all, so probably how it was in English too, hundreds of years ago I guess.
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I'll throw another in for good measure castle as in Newcastle and Castle Hill in Townsville. Is it pronounced "ka-cell" (north of the Tweed) or "car-sell" as we "non banana benders" deem as correct?
I won't start on the peanut butter / peanut paste debate....
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Castle is always an interesting one in our household. Hubby grew up in Leicester, UK and still retains remnants of the accent, ie short hard sounding vowels. He says kasle, not car-sell.
And there's Castlemaine in Vic - people I know who came from there say it's Kasle-maine
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Another town down here in South Gippsland is Korumburra (Kurum burra). Always funny to hear news reporters refering to (Corumb bura). Sorry that is hard to spell as it sounds, right or wrong. Those who know will understand.
Beigewagon.
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Another gippsland one bri-ag to the local's and brig-along to the unknowing.. ;D
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Briagalong, also known as Bring-ya-grog-along. ;D
Beigewagon.
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What do you make of Wooriwyrite (near Mortlake, Vic)?
Woo-rye-rite
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Quite a few funny one's up your way Farquo .
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At least we aren't as bad as the Kiwis with those fun towns where the "Wha" is pronounced as "Fu", my Dad had real problems when we took him to Whakatani....
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I think it's just local lingo. Here in SA we say SKOOL, NSW say SKEWL or POOL vs PEWL ???
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After serving in the Navy both at Nowra and on ships frequenting the bay it is JERvis Bay ;D
Ex ABATC from HMAS Albatross, lived there for years and CRW is on the money, was always keen on the area and have many good memories from Husky Pub in Husskinson.
I live in the Hunter Valley, my wife pronounces Pokolbin as "Poke o low bin" I didn't tell the Qlder she got it wrong till 6 month later after telling all her friends how great the wineries are in the
" Poke o low bin" area, some of them did think she was a bit odd.
Naturally when she found out, I was in her gun sights.....
Cheers Gonewalkabouts
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I once over heard a grey nomad with a plum firmly lodged in his mouth refer to Jervis bay ...We are from "JB" he said.....
A place we managed used to get mail from people with "locked bag ..."as their address .My missus being english asked..We get lots of enquiries from locked bag...wheres that???
Pete
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Strewth, I was confused enough allready............. ???
..............So I may as well add to it...............
My pet hate is people who refer to "an" historic event.
It has always been "a" historic. Why the change in the last few years?
Or perhaps Im being a bit too (*) retentive.............
Hopefully some of you sesquipedalians out there could prove to e which it really is???
i always remember being taught the opposite at school to what you are saying. so with your example it would be an historic event not a historic event....but so long as everyone knows what is meant i spose it doesnt really matter :cheers:
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Briagalong, also known as Bring-ya-grog-along. ;D
Beigewagon.
aka "Bringabongalong' (Don't tell Tim-Stratford >:D)