Tips from last years Recover Team

Symon · January 17, 2012, 08:06:38 PM

I think it also needs to be said that the people who were being recovered were a pleasure to deal with. It is so much better when you don't have to contend with egos and all the other crap that can creep in when on a trip like this.

Everyone was there to have a good time and a good time was had by all.

duggie · January 19, 2012, 08:08:44 AM

I would also like to add my two bobs worth into this topic.
As a group you have those who recover and those who are been recovered, but you also have those who pre-recover. Pre-recovery is where those who are been recovered have been made aware of what is up ahead, have had there nerves settled for what there about to go through and have their own recovery equipment at the ready. EG:Checked that their hubs are engaged, winch rope is run out, snatch straps are attached and radio is on the right channel and so forth. For a lot of people this sort of trip through the OTL and such like, are a once in a life time event and have never been in a situation where they have came across where recovery was needed. A guiding hand and helpful information from a fellow team member is every bit as important as the recovery it self. cheers duggie

Chippy76 · January 19, 2012, 08:19:37 AM

Quote from: duggie on January 19, 2012, 08:08:44 AM
I would also like to add my two bobs worth into this topic.
As a group you have those who recover and those who are been recovered, but you also have those who pre-recover. Pre-recovery is where those who are been recovered have been made aware of what is up ahead, have had there nerves settled for what there about to go through and have their own recovery equipment at the ready. EG:Checked that their hubs are engaged, winch rope is run out, snatch straps are attached and radio is on the right channel and so forth. For a lot of people this sort of trip through the OTL and such like, are a once in a life time event and have never been in a situation where they have came across where recovery was needed. A guiding hand and helpful information from a fellow team member is every bit as important as the recovery it self. cheers duggie

A good reason why having one "chief" to control all recoveries, who is trained, or well experienced is a good idea. This ensures that allthe prerecovery stuff can be checked and helps to calm the nerves.

Cheers Chippy

bert56 · January 19, 2012, 07:39:37 PM

Last year was one of the first times I had done any REAL 4 x4 driving and it was great to have someone who know what he was doing beside me when I was driving telling me what to expect and what to do.

Thanks Mark.

These recovery guys got not only me but a few other novices through ok last year. My advise to those who are going, is to listen to the recovery team leaders (J.K, SYMON, DUGGIE and MARK) when they offer advise, and thank them when required.

Bert

Offroad 4x4 Accessories · January 29, 2012, 08:41:20 PM

Sorry everyone i have been offline for awhile. I have to agree with everything that has been said in this post.
The main reason that yogi and i had the recovery down to a fine art was because yogi insisted that we have a practise before we get to the OTL. I dont have the pic but i am sure someone will post a pic of Yogi and I fine tuning the recoverys

idlegossip · January 29, 2012, 11:09:55 PM

Tim are you referring to this incident?

singo-26 · January 29, 2012, 11:16:01 PM

Quote from: idlegossip on January 29, 2012, 11:09:55 PM
Tim are you referring to this incident?

That is a very realistic looking practice drill, Yogi went the extra mile!!!

Offroad 4x4 Accessories · January 30, 2012, 07:11:41 AM

Thats the one i am talking about. Yes yogi wanted it as realistic as possible

TOY80ST · January 30, 2012, 08:24:22 AM

Quote from: Smartway on January 30, 2012, 07:11:41 AM
Thats the one i am talking about. Yes yogi wanted it as realistic as possible

I think it was nearly as realistic as yogi's bum sucking the buttons on the seat. That was kinda close. How did it happen?

yogi · January 30, 2012, 09:50:11 AM

This is what happens when you pull off the track to let some one past ....... it was like quick sand / mud .... hard crusty surface and liquid underneath !!!!

It was a great thing to happen so early on in the trip as it really heightened myself and Tim's sensors to just how quickly and easily things can go wrong ...... one second of lost concentration and a real rookie mistake but it was good practice to make sure me and Tim understood each other before trying it on any one else.

One of the most important tips for any trip .........

"NEVER NEVER EVER WHAT EVER YOU DO LEAVE THE TRACK"

you can quote me on that

yogi

Diksta · April 11, 2012, 08:36:26 PM

just a quick question along the recovery lines, if 2 people were on standby in the creeks with a max trax each and as soon as someone started to bog down they jammed them in under each front wheel to help gain traction. is that a reasonable idea? i am thinking the less time stationary in the creek the better chance of keeping water out.

just idea any cons and pros?

cheers

Diksta

McGirr · April 11, 2012, 08:52:24 PM

The problem is not with the water but the mud at some crossings.

Regarding water crossings the hardest one is Nolan's brook but it is deep and has a sandy bottom and is too dangerous to have someone ready to get in front of a car in deep water.

As far as I know no one has used them on the otl. Driving on the sand up there yes they would be great.

Mark

Diksta · April 11, 2012, 08:54:24 PM

Quote from: McGirr on April 11, 2012, 08:52:24 PM
The problem is not with the water but the mud at some crossings.

Regarding water crossings the hardest one is Nolan's brook but it is deep and has a sandy bottom and is too dangerous to have someone ready to get in front of a car in deep water.

As far as I know no one has used them on the otl. Driving on the sand up there yes they would be great.

Mark

just trying to think out side the square,

cheers

Diksta

McGirr · April 11, 2012, 08:59:00 PM

Good recovery gear and good support will get you through. Just stop at each crossing and watch other
Cars go through will give you an idea on what is best.

Mark

CRW · April 11, 2012, 09:16:46 PM

Quote from: McGirr on April 11, 2012, 08:59:00 PM
Good recovery gear and good support will get you through. Just stop at each crossing and watch other
Cars go through will give you an idea on what is best.

Mark

And a quick phone call to CRW who is a week behind you to advise him of conditions

Don't worry about the Maxtrax Diksta, your driving a Toyota and most of all you are in good hands

Cheers

Carl

McGirr · April 11, 2012, 09:21:16 PM

Carl

We will make all the crossings as hard as we can for you.

Mark

SteveandViv · April 11, 2012, 09:21:57 PM

I agree with Mark. There is no way you could throw the MaxTrax under the car in Noans etc. I did use ours up at Virlya Point as I went to turn aroun up the top and was not in low, lost momemntum and stopped. Got the Trax out and with a quick nudge of the throttle was on our way again. There was no where else that the Trax would have been any help. Places like Palm Creek etc need winches as the exits are long and you would need 100 sets of MaxTrax to make a difference.

Anyway, that's how it was for us. Just keep the tyre pressure low. I had 14 front 22 rear all the time on the OTL and had no problem

Symon · April 12, 2012, 08:04:57 AM

Quote from: Diksta on April 11, 2012, 08:54:24 PM
just trying to think out side the square,

Nothing wrong with that, but the truth is that we really don't know what method will be best until we get there. I'm sure every trip we do things will be slightly different so we can't take too much for granted.

yogi · June 12, 2012, 08:32:59 PM

Guys have great trip and learn from last year

yogi

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