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[austastar]

Hi,
   Surely councils have hydrology maps and info to guide building?
I looked for 2 years to find a block to build on with no flood risk and minimal fire risk and two roads out and a beach at the bottom of the street.
Nervous Nellie?
Guilty as charged!
Cheers

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[Hairs]

Hmm, couple of years ago, a school mate was unemloyed, Shitty old car, living(renting) on Ballina Rd, Lismore.
Flood took her car, washing machine, dryer and stuff.
It broke her heart, she didn't know what to so, a group of us organised for new appliances, a mate helped her get her car going again, took awhile.
Then she landed a job, Nursing home, couple hours a week. She started a nursing course, got work providing homecare.
Two years ago she was able to afford to rent a place in Goonellabah. It has broken her heart to see her old neighbours have lost everything, they have not been able to move.

This is the same for businesses, what do you do if it is impossible for you to relocate, most are just making a wage, not wealthy be any stretch, just doing the best they can.
It's not as simple as, just moving.

[austastar]

Hi,
   You are spot on there. Oh if it was just so simple.
But it isn't, and it will happen again, unfortunately.
It can be done, whole towns have been moved on occasions, Meckering was moved from a fault line, Adaminaby was moved for Lake Eucumbene, Grantham was moved out of a flood prone area so is can (and should) be done more widely.
And stock should have fire and flood exit gates to escape unescorted to safety  preplanned prior to fencing in Ozutopia.
Cheers

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[Craig Tomkinson]

Well all I can say is if there to stupid to change and to move it will happen again, Iv seen it happen for years, they shifted the small town of Grantham to well above flood level the only ones that got flooded again were the ones to stupid to move, Craig 

[MarkGU]

Well all I can say is if there to stupid to change and to move it will happen again, If seen it happen for years, they shifted the small town of Grantham to well above flood level the only ones that got flooded again were the ones to stupid to move, Craig

Most people interviewed on the news from Lismore all were saying the same thing..........flood insurance was way too expensive.
Then they go and rebuild on the same block only to have this happen again to them.
Seems like common sense to move to flood free and build.

[Steffo1]

Unfortunately, Craig,  the majority of society today, appear to suffer from 'It's Someone Else's Fault' syndrome.
Also, there will always be socio-economic factors to take into account, when it comes to location.

[MarkGU]

Unfortunately, Craig,  the majority of society today, appear to suffer from 'It's Someone Else's Fault' syndrome.
Also, there will always be socio-economic factors to take into account, when it comes to location.

if your having problems with a car and you sell it,you dont buy it back knowing it has the same problem do you? just saying.

[Steffo1]

if your having problems with a car and you sell it,you dont buy it back knowing it has the same problem do you? just saying.

C'mon, Mark. I own Land Rovers! Problems?
I know what you're saying, but for some people, there may be few alternatives. Although, if someone can afford to buy their house a couple of times, then one would think that they could afford to relocate, ay?

[Hairs]

Just WOW.

[MarkGU]

C'mon, Mark. I own Land Rovers! Problems?
I know what you're saying, but for some people, there may be few alternatives. Although, if someone can afford to buy their house a couple of times, then one would think that they could afford to relocate, ay?

are you saying that it is you or the land rover who has the problems 

I reckon most will reevaluate their next home placement after this,or at least we hope they do.

Our heart goes out to all of them just north of us. 

[Steffo1]

Just WOW.

Huh?

[GeoffA]

........flood insurance was way too expensive.

There might be a clue there.....

But what can you do if you're not in a position to move?
It's a choice that isn't available to everyone.

Thoughts are with those impacted....

[Pottsy]

There might be a clue there.....

But what can you do if you're not in a position to move?
It's a choice that isn't available to everyone.

Thoughts are with those impacted....

That's right, and for those who try to sell to have the where with all to buy elsewhere is dependent on someone else taking the same risk that they have been taking. It's a vicious circle.

[Steffo1]

That's right, and for those who try to sell to have the where with all to buy elsewhere is dependent on someone else taking the same risk that they have been taking. It's a vicious circle.

Spot on. After the '74 flood, I was involved in the accurate logging of flood levels in the Beenleigh district. Some of the things we witnessed, with people losing everything, broke our hearts, but these same people were prepared to rebuild their lives and residences, knowing full well it could/would happen again.
Even in those days, I remember an old cove saying to me, "Whose going to buy this mud puddle off me?"

Another thing I came across was a real estate agent bullShitting to us, when my boss asked him as to where the high water mark came to. What a scumbag!

[GeoffA]

.....
Another thing I came across was a real estate agent bullShitting to us......

Really??

[MarkGU]

After 3 days ( and some late nights) of sandbagging, the attention now turns to the clean up.

Was in at our local rowing shed today, cleaning up after 1.5 mtrs of flood water inundated the place.
Some very expensive rowing craft were damaged and alot of mud and silt had to be shoveled, scraped & hosed out.
Like to thank all ours and other's kids who helped & pitched in.
Pressure washed the walls,boats and just about anything else inside the shed today.............now time for something cold and alcoholic to partake in.
Sleep & back at it again tomorrow 

[Troopy_03]

Spot on. After the '74 flood, I was involved in the accurate logging of flood levels in the Beenleigh district. Some of the things we witnessed, with people losing everything, broke our hearts, but these same people were prepared to rebuild their lives and residences, knowing full well it could/would happen again.
Even in those days, I remember an old cove saying to me, "Whose going to buy this mud puddle off me?"

Another thing I came across was a real estate agent bullShitting to us, when my boss asked him as to where the high water mark came to. What a scumbag!

I remember that flood in'74. Ex girfriends home was affected, but they didn't have to worry about cleaning it up afterwards. It got washed down the river.. 

[prodigyrf]

There are those that take the punt on buying and building cheaper in flood prone areas and they take what comes. However as we've added more rooves paved roads and cleared agricultural land the extremes of weather impact ever more widely. As flood risk areas expand then naturally building and contents insurance for rising water becomes cost prohibitive in much the same way as it does for bushfire risk areas. That just leaves local community flood control levees and the like although there was one town that thought big- https://www.enjoyillinois.com/illinois-200/raising-chicago/

[prodigyrf]

Mind you I live in Adelaide in the driest State of the driest continent so for me it's a case of- Come to sunny Queensland, raining one day pissing down the next!
When in God's name are you dopey easterners ever gunna build yourselves some more bloody dams to stop drowning yourselves?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/australia-s-woke-internationalist-green-laws-are-creating-misery/ar-AAUB6WJ

[MarkGU]

Mind you I live in Adelaide in the driest State of the driest continent so for me it's a case of- Come to sunny Queensland, raining one day pissing down the next!
When in God's name are you dopey easterners ever gunna build yourselves some more bloody dams to stop drowning yourselves?
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/australia-s-woke-internationalist-green-laws-are-creating-misery/ar-AAUB6WJ

"dopey easterners"
I beg your pardon?
like you  have politicians that are angels?
Since when is a dam on the Clarence River going to stop flooding?Have you seen the river heights when this river floods? Obviously not.

People in glass houses old mate 

[plusnq]

Simple answer. Too much flow for dams to cope. Equivalent of four Sydney Harbours of capacity.

[MarkGU]

Simple answer. Too much flow for dams to cope. Equivalent of four Sydney Harbours of capacity.

100% correct mate.

[Fizzie]

Here's an option:

https://www.baca.uk.com/amphibioushouse.html

Sure, it's undoubtedly not cheap, but compared to completely stripping out & rebuilding your house, + replacing all your furniture, fittings etc for the 2nd, 3rd, nth time ...

[austastar]

Hi,
    I Noah guy who built one like that!
Cheers

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[Bird]

wow
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