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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #125 on: July 12, 2020, 11:43:51 AM »
No, it stays in place and intact.

I hate it when I see those cut.... lazy way of doing it.... unless its a donor car...  ;D

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« Reply #126 on: July 13, 2020, 01:01:48 PM »
Yabba Dabba Do..... we have a 4lt. Barra engine sitting on the shed floor, right in front of the MK2.

These are a turd of a thing to get out.

Rang Shane this morning on a different thing and mentioned it was a Shit.

He said, I think you undo the K frame and drop 'em down.

Wasn't going that way at that point in time.... would've bought a petrol powered steel saw if I had to.  ;D

Let the fun begin.
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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2020, 11:36:52 AM »
Picking up an FG Falcon sump tomorrow is Brissie.
These are a reverse hump sump, so the deep bit is at the back.

Then off to grab the bell housing and an empty T400 trans.

I can see an angle grinder doing its thing on the firewall pretty soon.

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« Reply #128 on: July 18, 2020, 04:20:59 AM »
i'm stuffed six ways to Sunday this week.

Stripping out the donor car has been a huge amount of work.
Been mainly getting out FSShane's stuff and of course, the motor and gearbox.
Sick of working with plastic crap.

I'll put the piece of Shit outside over the weekend I think and free up some space.
My box of goodies from Hoppers Stoppers arrived yesterday..... the gear looks the goods too.
Got some sheet steel yesterday to use on the firewall mods.
Off this morning to grab a column to rack steering bit I need.
Might even see what the whole column is like.... might make life a tad easier.

I was going to try and use the donor car column.... but its a bulky friggin thing.

Oh well, either way, its one step closer to a going concern.

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« Reply #129 on: July 18, 2020, 08:37:44 AM »
Saw this and thought it might be of interest for you.

https://youtu.be/AE-s7FVKiPE
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« Reply #130 on: July 22, 2020, 03:14:01 PM »
I never realised until this week, how frigging hard its been gutting the ol ute.

I think I hate late model cars even more now, if that's possible.

The gearbox wasn't ready last week, but it is now.
Off to Brissie in the morning, get the box.
Then grab the EB Falcon rear rotors and calipers on the way home.
Then pick up the XF falcon steering column, then to Gatton for some nuts and bolts.

I think Monday, we will start to get serious with this build.
Still just looks like a big pile of crap in the shed though..... :-[

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« Reply #131 on: July 23, 2020, 02:53:24 PM »
Holy Shit..... didn't know whether to laugh or cry or just take a Shit in my best hat.

I picked up the dummy box today.
Its been milled, drilled, distilled and all that crap and has a custom bell housing ($990 worth) bolted now to the T400.
You have to mill the oil pump and do some crap, its not just a bolt up thing.
So, I dropped another $1,000 to cover the cost of the used box and mods to it so far.

I said to Bob, so my arse doesn't sting too much when I get you to do the "bullet proof unit", how much should I expect.
Oh Kev, around $6,000 should wrap it up, then just get your convertor done to suit.  :'(
This thing will hold a 1,000 horsepower all day, every day.

My bum is beginning to sting a bit already.

In case your wondering, it will be worth every penny though..... Bob Grant builds a wicked box.
I've never raced on anything else.
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« Reply #132 on: July 25, 2020, 04:20:12 AM »
The week in review.....


Now, to be fair, i knew it wouldn't fit..... YET.
 No worse than the 1st trial fit of the 302 in the poor little Datto.
 I'd love a dollar for everytime i was told, it'll never fit, it'll never handle and it'll never hook up on a 215 tyre.

But stuff me mushrooms, these are friggin big 6 cylinder engines.
 The cool thing, is the radiator sits in front of the Rad support panel, so we win some space there.
 The other plus, is i want to get # 1 plug as close to lining up with the towers as i can.
 The less weight in front of the crossmember will work for us much better in the handling department.
 This work better pay dividends in some single digit time slips. LOL

The ol donor car is looking pretty sad now too, the rusty pile of Shit it is.
 I'm not use to having a dead car body lying around the place.
 Time to get the scrappers in pretty soon.
 I anyone wants/needs some 16" Ford wheels, i reckon for $50, you'll get 4 mags, 2 really good tyres, and a steel wheel spare with a near brand new tyre on it.

The new front brakes would've gone on yesterday, except i didn't have a bloody 9/16 unc tap on hand..... good job for later in the week.
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.

The T400 g/box is here now, so the general fit up can begin.
 Its had the bell housing milled off the case, the front modded to suit and assembled as an empty unit.
 A guy walking past Bob Grants took a second look when i carried the whole thing out.
 It was lighter than a box of beer.

The diff will go off to Shane at HPEngines in a few weeks for a short back and sides, but at least its out fromunder the ute now.

Picked up the rear brakes this week, and an XF steering column which looks pretty good for a fit so far.
 I'll be busting my arse to try and get the old Zephyr column covers to fit the XF unit to help make it blend in better.

Every now and then, i do have to look at the ol Datsun pic on the shed wall and think to myself, how much friggin fun the Zephyr will be doing things like Drag Challenge.
 Bring it on i say......
 OH, and the orange thing was at Bob Grants too...... pretty nice ol 2 door VG Valiant. LOL  Yes, it was the real McCoy.

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« Reply #133 on: July 25, 2020, 04:20:56 AM »
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« Reply #134 on: July 25, 2020, 06:38:34 AM »
That's nice... :cup: :cup:

I'm a Mopar fan. They dared to be different, and did some interesting stuff.

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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #135 on: July 25, 2020, 06:42:40 AM »
...
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
...

They're almost around the corner from us.
I've used them a couple of times for some small stuff and they've always been very helpful.

...
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.
...

Good brakes only slow you down.... :P
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« Reply #136 on: July 30, 2020, 08:29:27 AM »
Yanks building a big Barra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRmnqvT3AM ..
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« Reply #137 on: August 01, 2020, 04:35:44 PM »
A few new pics, including a tail shaft rated to 2,000hp. (Ain't gunna bust that sucker)

Going to kick the rear springs in so they sit under the rails rather than beside them.
Esk Welding and Fab are going to do the firewall mods..... keep the engineer happy that way.

Steering column is roughly zip tied into place ready for an "engine in the hole" fit during the week.

Gunna look pretty shabby with half the firewall missing.

 

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« Reply #138 on: August 01, 2020, 04:38:16 PM »
Sorry if I dribble on a bit.... still not 100% sure about this thread.  ???


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« Reply #139 on: August 01, 2020, 06:53:12 PM »
Dribble away mate.;D
I’m following this thread with keen interest (and a fair amount of jealousy).

Personally always wanted to build something loud and fast, but no matter how many times I brought it up, I could never get permission from the finance minister.

So I just have to live vicariously through cool builds like this one.
Might not post much, but reading everything and studying all the photos in detail. ;)
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« Reply #140 on: August 01, 2020, 09:25:09 PM »
Keep it coming Jeepers, I'm really enjoying reading. Can't wait to see the 1/4 mile time!
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« Reply #141 on: August 02, 2020, 03:29:34 AM »
OK, thanks guys.

I guess the hard bit Is, sometimes during these sorts of builds, is a small improvement or fix, makes ya feel like the King of Turd Island
I worry that others will look on and think, the fukkin dickhead gets excited over the smallest thing.... well, that does happen too.  >:D

Pete, remember with the pics, this all comes apart for final welding, finishing etc prior to paint..... she's mock up only at this point.

S.W.   When I see that first 9 second time slip, then it will all feel worthwhile huh.

I had thought about just doing a simple ol HQ one tonner with a nitrous LS in it for an easy 10 second runner.
Would have been a third of the price to build.....
Only half a car to paint, trim and Shit like that but no real cool factor and one tonners have been done to death.

The ol Pensioner Performance Rockabilly Cruiser Bruiser should have the "WOW... That'd friggin cool" factor in spades. (I hope)

I know why she came off the road in 1970 now too.
The diff centre is busted.
They take a few teeth off the planetary gears if you give them a hard time.
They will still drive, but sound like marbles in a tin bucket rattling around.
This thing lived on a dirt road in western NSW, so i'm guessing the corrugations took the diff out.
She was parked up, and left to sit until some ol fart by the name of Jeepers came along.
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« Reply #142 on: August 02, 2020, 07:18:44 AM »
Keep up with the posts.  I'm not overly interested in the performance side, just following to see how you are making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...
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« Reply #143 on: August 02, 2020, 08:38:23 AM »
.......making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...

FBH.... ;D

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« Reply #144 on: August 02, 2020, 04:40:57 PM »
Ya gotta be happy, when ya welding and fab. guy calls around at 3 on a sunday arvo.

It seems, i'm not cutting the firewall now with an angle grinder.....   ;D

He is.... with a whizz bang plasma cutter next weekend.

He sees no probs with the plans..... thinks the spring relocation will be easy.

So, after spending most of the day cruising the wheels off the Cadillac, this has been a nice finish to the weekend.  :cup:

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« Reply #145 on: August 02, 2020, 07:24:22 PM »
Would have been a third of the price to build.....

so do you have a budget?

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« Reply #146 on: August 03, 2020, 04:24:11 AM »
so do you have a budget?

NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

The tonner could've been built for around 10 grand I reckon.
This one, well, who the hell knows, but being what it is and being a high end/ish build, oh man, my butt just started stinging again.

See, with the tonner, all I would do is move the rear axle forward 12 inches, make the engine and g/box mounts, then powder coat the chassis.
Already has disc brakes etc, so assemble the driveline, a 31 spline 9 inch and the mechanics are nearly there.

Paint and panel the cabin, a cage, 2 buckets trimmed and some carpet..... you see whit I mean.
I was thinking of gutting the ol girls statesman for the donor car too.

She didn't know that, but she's not dumb, one morning when it appeared to have a flat battery, she would've worked it out.

I sometimes forget to tell her stuff, a little bit like the time I sold her MGA for $27,500 back in 2001 or so.
I'd bought it for her for her birthday the year before, can't remember why I wanted the money now.... not sure she's 100% over that yet.  ???

But yeah, the tonner would've been an easy build, maybe a 6 or 8 month turn around... tops.

The mighty Zeph, while I want it finished ASAP, it will most likely go over my 12 month hopes and dreams.

As I've mentioned before, the hard part, is now.
Lots of Shit to plan.... there is stuff that won't be fitted to the car until its near complete, but it has to be made, modified or other, in the planning.
Its gunna look like a messy pile of parts and Shit for a while yet..... but fukkin look out when we start the final fit ups in the home stretch.
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« Reply #147 on: August 03, 2020, 12:05:47 PM »
NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

That's the attitude, one of those things that if you sat down to cost it at the beginning it might never happen ;D

Sooooo, given you will probably be able to get a street tune on the haltech and therefore probably make it more economical to run than the Caddy, is this a possible replacement or are you envisaging this one as a sibling for Migaloo.

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« Reply #148 on: August 03, 2020, 12:47:59 PM »
No, the Cadillac goes nowhere but in my shed and stays there till I cark it.
The Z car will be a stable mate for it.

The modern tech available with Haltech is pretty friggin cool.
We can have a lazy tune for around town, that will be around the 3 or 400 mark.
Then, come race day, we open the taps and let it eat.  ;D

The jury is still out, whether we run pump98 for racing as well or tip some E85 in for race days.

The practical side of me, which doesn't come to the surface very often, says it will run pump98 full time.

I ordered a pair of 15 x 5" front wheels the morning. (Don't really need 'em for ages...sort of)
I do however, need to know, they will clear the calipers ok, before shortening the diff to suit the rears. (Chrome smoothies)

No good doing the diff, to then find the fronts foul.
Then trying buy wheels to suit the diff rather than the diff built to suit the wheels.

All part of the crap running through my fool head.

After removing the intake set up this morning, I had another go at slipping the engine in the hole.
Plenty of love lube, couple of tyre levers and it was still a no go, but closer.
Once we plasma cut the firewall, it'll slip in like a dick in a shirt sleeve.

The engine is longer than the engine bay by about 2 inches....... bugger.




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« Reply #149 on: August 03, 2020, 01:08:39 PM »

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.
 

THIS IS WHAT HAS CHANGED..... from Day 1   ... ha ha ha. set in cement my arse.

1/ Its a 59 Zephyr for starts. ::)
2/ Spats are gone, not a friggin hope of clearing the tyres. ::)
3/ The Dodge Lancer trims, now chrome smoothies.  ::)
4/ The 4 speed over drive auto, now a manualised and transbraked 3 speed GM gearbox.  ::)
5/ I was going to use the donor car wiring harness.....  ::)

Might just go now.....  :-X