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JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« on: May 30, 2020, 03:54:21 PM »
OK, it was suggested, I maybe run a separate thread for the Zephyr build.

So, here goes, but first a reminder of what I/we, want to achieve.

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.

This is the start of doing just that:

This car was sold new in Gunnedah and has been off the road since the 90's.
Yes, we bought the car in a stripped down condition, which saves me a mountain of work.

The bulk of the car is mint, with only some small patch panels on the rear floors.
We have every bit of trim, screws, brackets, bolts, the works..... only thing missing, is the engine and trans.

Keep in mind, we all look pretty average in our underwear.



 
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Re: Jeeper's Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2020, 04:00:13 PM »
Nice... :cup:

The advantage of buying it stripped down is you can see exactly what it's like. No hidden surprises....

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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2020, 04:01:46 PM »
Building a NA Barra to your specs?
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2020, 04:02:45 PM »
Very nice
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2020, 04:05:41 PM »
Building a NA Barra to your specs?

Yes mate, we'll upgrade the rods and turbo pistons and Footy Shorts Shane will handle the turbo side of things.
I'm a nitrous guy..... I wouldn't know Shit about turbos, but gunna start learning I think.

It should be a fun deal.... piss easy to drive, run some stout numbers.  8)

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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2020, 04:06:55 PM »
Very nice

Not bad for $2,000 and i'm using his trailer next Saturday to bring it home too.

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2020, 04:11:03 PM »
Not bad for $2,000...

Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:

That can come later.... :P :P

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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2020, 04:31:50 PM »
So...Myswags version of Custom Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2020, 04:41:07 PM »
Look forward to the commentary on this build

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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2020, 05:09:45 PM »
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The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine.

It's what all the cool kids are putting in their patrols nowadays, better for ripping the crap out of the tracks by the looks of things https://www.facebook.com/BarraTheWorldOfficial/videos/1020336371474667/?d=null&vh=e
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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2020, 05:39:44 PM »
Looking forwards to the build, is it just me or is it a bit coincidental that your better half suggests you build a drag car (plenty of time out in the shed) after your bum trumpeting goes to a whole new level.

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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2020, 06:29:39 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI .....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s           ... Turbo Yoda  ...
 :cup: :cup:

Thanks edz, really enjoyed the 2nd vid....
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2020, 06:52:12 PM »
I was getting bored with life but I have just found a new interest...looking forward to the updates ;D
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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2020, 07:39:08 PM »
Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:



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Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2020, 07:44:42 PM »
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Ya think?..... ;D ;D
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2020, 03:07:51 AM »
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Yeah, a little bit huh. Only what we have to though. I really need this thing to stay "looking stock".
Since yesterday, I've found out a R31 Nissan front end is pretty much a bolt up deal.
So, that's something I need to look into much further straight up.
For rego purposes and drivability, this little turd needs to stop and handle better than any MK2 Zephyr has ever done before.
The official built start time is tomorrow, 1st June.
IF, and I really mean IF, I can get a decent run at it, I would like to be ready for Drag Challenge Weekend 2021.
This will be either in April or May next year.

I'm a little excited...... I think i'm getting a stiffy.  :-[

OK, now that's out of the way......  >:D  :-*

These are some figures on the how's, why's, and where for's.

A stock MK2 weighs in at a curb weight of 2,692 lbs or 1221 kgs.... we'll work on lbs for this exercise. 
So, we have weight savings in some areas, and cop weight penalties in other areas,
Then there's my fat arse as well.

So, working on a finished weight of 3,300 lbs race ready. (shouldn't be an issue at all)
With 700 HP at the rear wheels. (piss it in)
Turning the engine to a mere 6,000 rpm, after all, we want the motor to live.  :angel:
Using a 235/60x15 drag radial, you end up with a 26" tall tyre.
Combine a 3.3 diff gear ratio to the tyre height.
We end up with the following results.
An elapsed time of 9.55 seconds @ 140 mph.  8)

Now here, is where it can get interesting.
At only 200lbs heavier, we drop back to a 9:7 @ 137 mph.

But, if we come in at 200 lbs lighter, we run a 9:39 @ 142.5 mph. (hence the need for a parachute, once at or over 140mph)

Lots of variables can change the outcome, but this is usually pretty damn close.
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Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2020, 07:38:12 AM »
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2020, 11:02:58 AM »
So...Myswags version of Monster Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2020, 11:30:31 AM »
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288


The Tank is still here. Picking up the water pump Wednesday for that and get that finished off.
The Grey motor is here, waiting for the owner to return the FB wagon with the rust work on the floors done. (Might be a few weeks yet on that)

The Zephyr, I went the other side of Toowoomba this morning and picked up an old pair Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.
They're buggered, but will be great for doing the diff set up.
New ones are $350 each, so will hold off until I need 'em.

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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2020, 12:07:54 PM »
Just had to have a play .. Jillsy you could use this for the Harley Drag Bike
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2020, 01:47:51 PM »
Doing some history checks on the car.'\ today, thanks to some really good contacts.

Built in Sydney, its a May/1959 build.
It would seem, the car hasn't been registered now since the mid 90's.  8)

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« Reply #22 on: June 02, 2020, 06:07:21 AM »
Wow, i'd forgotten how much homework there is to do when doing one of these builds.

The diff, will be one of the first things to be done, along with a new front suspension set up.
Just so much more stuff available now, than there was back in 1990 when I did the mighty Datto 1200.

Harrop Engineering do a wicked looking TrueTrac 31 spline unit that should suit our needs to a tee.
Lots of folks would just go a 9 inch diff and be done with it.
Such a massive amount of extra weight, which we can well do without.
So, we will be running a Borg Warner diff.
Ratios available are 3:27 or 3:45. (no aftermarket ratios are vailable)

Of course, the 3:27 will be close enough for our desired 3:30 I want.
We need to sort the diff, to sort the tyres, to sort the clearance to see if I need to tub it.
I'm really hoping, the 235/60 x 15 Drag Radials will slip up the bum with no mods.
If we have to cut and widen the factory wheel tubs, now is the time.

The other cool thing, is the front end.

I'll be getting some photos and measurements on Thursday of a very cool set up.
A Nissan Skyline R31 front end, SHOULD be near bolt in fit.
This gives me a decent size disc brake rotor on the front.
Because i'm using either a 205 or 195 front tyre, I may not need power steering.
The Nissan front though, opens up the option of a power rack.
Some Nissan Pulsars, use an electric power steering pump too.

Oh well, bit of a shed re-arranging day for today, so the Zephyr goes into its hidey hole.
Parts run tomorrow and Thursday coming up.
Day off on Friday, bring the Zephyr home Saturday.

I'm enjoying this being retired gig....  ???

Stoopid wife.... making me build cars like this..... Bad Wife.....  >:D

OH, and 1 hiccup, which i'm waiting on info for.
Will the IHRA governing body, allow me to run 9's with a bench seat..... they friggin better.  ???
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« Reply #23 on: June 02, 2020, 08:46:53 AM »
Just get a bucket seat base bolster built so that it fits / slips / straps  onto the bench seat as a removable section .  8)
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2020, 09:35:29 AM »
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