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Pottsy

#675
October 19, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
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Hairs

#678
October 30, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
'European Union bans sale of petrol and diesel cars from 2035 to boost electric vehicle uptake'
Hmm, What's that's mean for us here?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-29/eu-ban-new-fossil-fuel-cars-boost-ev-uptake/101593696

You don't use magic to disappear, ya use a 4x4 & Swag.
You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)

GeoffA

#679
October 30, 2022, 04:14:31 PM
Quote from: Hairs on October 30, 2022, 03:30:35 PM
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Hmm, What's that's mean for us here?
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It means we don't buy a new car after 2034....
Geoff and Kay

1999 GU TD42T wagon
2005 Coota Camper - gone, but never forgotten
2020 North Coast 15' Titanium - tandem, of course

Land Cruiser.....the Patrol that Toyota try to build.....

Bird

#680
October 30, 2022, 07:08:09 PM
Quote from: Hairs'European Union bans sale of petrol and diesel cars from 2035 to boost electric vehicle uptake'
Hmm, What's that's mean for us here?
Manure

You'd wanna be a car sales man as there'll be a world record amount of cars sold between xmas and new years day 2034
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prodigyrf

#681
November 03, 2022, 02:46:33 PM
It can't physically happen but it makes for feelgood political posturing at present-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/e2-80-98giant-roadblock-e2-80-99-to-renewable-energy-aspirations-is-e2-80-98minerals-e2-80-99/ar-AA13E0Ml
When the time comes and that becomes bleeding obvious (if it isn't already with predicted power bill rises) then the legislation can be swiftly scrapped by politicians reading the room.



There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

prodigyrf

#682
November 03, 2022, 03:01:10 PM
Speaking of quickly reading the room aka freezing in the dark-
http://spectator.com.au/2022/10/gale-force-hypocrisy-german-greens-kill-wind-farm-for-coal-mine/
Full backflip with triple pike. LOL
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Spada

#683
November 04, 2022, 05:28:30 AM
Quote from: prodigyrf on November 03, 2022, 02:46:33 PM
It can't physically happen but it makes for feelgood political posturing at present-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/other/e2-80-98giant-roadblock-e2-80-99-to-renewable-energy-aspirations-is-e2-80-98minerals-e2-80-99/ar-AA13E0Ml
When the time comes and that becomes bleeding obvious (if it isn't already with predicted power bill rises) then the legislation can be swiftly scrapped by politicians reading the room.

I probably wouldn't give too much credibility to anything being reported pushed on Fox News, and especially not by Andrew Bolt. That whole channel is agenda driven propaganda.
Spada.
76 Series Cruiser & Zone Peregrine caravan.

GeoffA

#684
November 04, 2022, 06:25:06 AM
Quote from: Spada on November 04, 2022, 05:28:30 AM
I probably wouldn't give too much credibility to anything being reported pushed on Fox News, and especially not by Andrew Bolt. That whole channel is agenda driven propaganda.

Same with the ABC....
Geoff and Kay

1999 GU TD42T wagon
2005 Coota Camper - gone, but never forgotten
2020 North Coast 15' Titanium - tandem, of course

Land Cruiser.....the Patrol that Toyota try to build.....

Foo

#685
November 05, 2022, 08:57:16 AM
This beast looks bloody good but how good was the F1 car and Fittipaldi driving his old car.  8)

https://youtu.be/SjNxUvgYuUU

Foo
So long as you have tried your best, you should have no regrets.

prodigyrf

#686
November 06, 2022, 10:35:34 PM
Quote from: Spada on November 04, 2022, 05:28:30 AM
I probably wouldn't give too much credibility to anything being reported pushed on Fox News, and especially not by Andrew Bolt. That whole channel is agenda driven propaganda.
Would you like to dispute the facts his guest presents and point out where he's wrong or like so many engineering/economic illiterati nowadays stick their fingers in their ears and go nananananananana!- https://www.manhattan-institute.org/expert/mark-p-mills

He's a top physicist and as such just can't bring himself to go along with the fairy dust and Groupthink masquerading as science and regurgitated by lamestream media ignorati. Mark his figures the EV wet dream cannot and will not happen as fantasized as lithium battery tech is at the extremes of the Periodic Table now and there aint no more wonder elements lying around in abundance- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table#
Ditch lithium for more abundant elements and the tradeoff is heavier like lead acid NiMh and NiCad in case you've forgottem :'(







There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Bird

#687
November 07, 2022, 09:03:33 AM
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prodigyrf

#688
November 07, 2022, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: Pottsy on October 19, 2022, 03:10:28 PM
Is it April 1st?

https://www.drive.com.au/news/electric-toyota-hilux-to-cost-close-to-100000/

No it'll be tacked on to your rates so your Council can brag they're greening the planet while you buy your own personal warm inner glow or cool runnings supposedly.
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Bird

#690
November 10, 2022, 05:32:40 PM
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prodigyrf

#691
November 10, 2022, 09:03:12 PM
Hop in early for the new wave of electric motorsickles-
https://www.bikesales.com.au/bikes/details/2022-energica-ego/OAG-AD-21281813/?Cr=0

There's nothing wrong with EVs and grab yourself a zoom zoom Tesla if you have the readies and off-street charging capability. Just that we have to understand lithium battery tech is now very mature and we've reached economies of scale but now we've run into resource supply constraints pushing up the price faster than ICE cars-
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/another-affordable-ev-is-suddenly-not-very-affordable-anymore/ar-AA13VRNU

The industry has plumbed the bottom of the cost curve and it's all uphill for EV pricing from here when they're already too dear for most. The physics of energy is nothing like data with the silicon chip following Moore's Law and that's where so many pundits and spruikers were sadly ignorant.
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

prodigyrf

#692
November 18, 2022, 10:52:49 AM
And where will the power be to charge them all at night?
https://climate-science.press/2022/11/16/renewable-south-australia-islanded-flying-by-the-seat-of-their-pants-afraid-of-a-solar-surge-on-a-sunny-day/
Currently they're building another interconnector from SA to NSW but what good will that do when NSW and Vic follow the SA lead with unreliables too? 
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Bird

#693
November 29, 2022, 02:15:33 PM
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prodigyrf

#694
November 30, 2022, 11:06:21 PM
The eT60 is expensive. Shockingly expensive. The single variant which will initially arrive in Australia wears a before on-road costs price tag of $92,990.

To put that in perspective, its specification is equivalent to that of the base-model 'Pro' combustion version, which now wears a price-tag of $43,148.

Do the math. You could literally have two T60 Max Pros for the same cost as one of these electric versions, given the latter's price premium of $49,842.

To make matters worse, the eT60 is rear-drive only, and with its nearly 90kWh battery pack offers just 330km of driving range, and that's without being loaded-up.

https://www.carsguide.com.au/ev/ldv-et60-88274
There's no Great Evil conspiracy against consumers within engineering, manufacturing and supply. Just the many tradeoffs incurred to satisfy diverse tastes, priorities and wallets. But first comes all the insatiable Gummint eggsperts, nanny-staters and usual suspects.

Pottsy

#695
December 02, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
Completed my Tesla conversion today!
if God had meant me to walk he wouldn't have invented 4wds! Mitsubishi Challenger Pc 2014 (Blondie)
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westvic

#696
December 02, 2022, 08:07:04 PM
Quote from: Pottsy on December 02, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
Completed my Tesla conversion today!
:cup:
Getting there if half the fun

The other half is a cold beer when you do.

Bad Scott

#697
December 03, 2022, 05:54:28 AM
Quote from: Pottsy on December 02, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
Completed my Tesla conversion today!
Forgot the speed controller  ;D
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Robbo

#698
December 03, 2022, 09:44:07 AM
Quote from: Pottsy on December 02, 2022, 01:32:15 PM
Completed my Tesla conversion today!
I think you might need a bigger battery Pottsy. Perhaps a "C" or "D" size would be better and may give you an extra 12 inches of travel.

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Pottsy

#699
December 03, 2022, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: Robbo on December 03, 2022, 09:44:07 AM
I think you might need a bigger battery Pottsy. Perhaps a "C" or "D" size would be better and may give you an extra 12 inches of travel.

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Wasn't really planning on going very far!
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