Whats making news - 2019 edition

[tryagain]

Here is what I think is a good take on the whole Greta Thunberg phenomenon.  https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/joe-hildebrand-on-why-the-climate-kids-cant-win/news-story/908881be3762e43ebacc704c149bc7c2

And this is pretty close to my take on climate science. https://www.facebook.com/realcarrickryan/posts/887383754952798

[glenm64]

They can make as much noise as they like, but they are only ever preaching to the converted. If young people really want to make a difference then they would be far better of trying to be like Boylan Slat than Greta Thunberg.

It would be great if the world was full of people like Bolkan Slat, Ann Makosinski, Katie Stagliano, Ryan Hreljac etc.
But most of them(us) dont have the skill set, drive, people skills, intelligence and the likes to be able to do that. What they have realised is they have a voice and they are using it, civil disobedience is one of the most powerful weapons.
“It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen.” 

Cheers Glen

[Bird]

No wonder this country is going backwards. the poor buttercups...

Construction workers to go home if mercury hits 28C and humidity reaches 75 per cent

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/construction-workers-to-go-home-if-mercury-hits-28c/news-story/5a28cf69efd566917184141c1b67da12

[Bigfish]

No wonder this country is going backwards. the poor buttercups...

Construction workers to go home if mercury hits 28C and humidity reaches 75 per cent

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/construction-workers-to-go-home-if-mercury-hits-28c/news-story/5a28cf69efd566917184141c1b67da12

So for 6 months of the year all construction work is halted in Northern Australia.   F me we have some idiots amongst us.....

[edz]

Dont worry little Greetta will sort it out, She will launch  four monster size biodegradable cornstarch weather balloons filled with the hot air from all the Extinction mob, Tied altogether with some light weight hemp string and lifting a big sun shade made from hemp, floated up to the stratosphere to shade the Earth and lower the temps ..
All made from renewables and natural biodegradable stock .. Then we will all be saved from the overheated work conditions  ..

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[Bird]

Dont worry little Greetta will sort it out, She will launch  four monster size biodegradable cornstarch weather balloons filled with the hot air from all the Extinction mob, Tied altogether with some light weight hemp string and lifting a big sun shade made from hemp, floated up to the stratosphere to shade the Earth and lower the temps ..
All made from renewables and natural biodegradable stock .. Then we will all be saved from the overheated work conditions  ..

her sailing boat was biodegradable too

[Troopy_03]

No wonder this country is going backwards. the poor buttercups...

Construction workers to go home if mercury hits 28C and humidity reaches 75 per cent

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/construction-workers-to-go-home-if-mercury-hits-28c/news-story/5a28cf69efd566917184141c1b67da12

Yeah it does sound a bit low at 28C, I would have thought it would be in the mid 30's. But maybe the 75% humidity makes a fair bit of difference, I don't know what the average is and haven't really taken much notice of humidity figures or how they relate to temps, in a work enviroment.

At one job I had, the boss cracked the Shits because I walked off the job at 43C in the work shed. But I was knackered and told him to deduct sick leave if he wanted, but I was going home. I've had heatstroke before, and it isn't nice.

[Jeepers Creepers]

I would quit mowing at 35 degrees.

I would finish the job I was doing of course, but 35 was a fair number in my books.

[rockrat]

If I recall correctly underground mines stop work when the effective temperature hits around 29 DegC. The effective temperature takes into account humidity (wet bulb) and air flow as well as the ambient temperature.


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[rags]

It only applies in the SEQ corner of the state. If you are for example in Cairns it is ok to continue working in temperatures above that as the union says those people would be use to working and dealing with the excessive temperatures.

[Bird]

This is a fantastic idea... Im all in favour my chinese overlordss

UQ course on 'understanding China' established with Chinese government funding

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/uq-course-on-understanding-china-established-with-chinese-government-funding-20191011-p52zun.html

[gronk]

If I recall correctly underground mines stop work when the effective temperature hits around 29 DegC. The effective temperature takes into account humidity (wet bulb) and air flow as well as the ambient temperature.


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Not in underground coal mines. No temp figure at all, that I ever recall.

[rockrat]

Not in underground coal mines. No temp figure at all, that I ever recall.

I was thinking hard rock mines.
But quick google search found this:

https://www.dnrme.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/1453174/recognised-standard-18-management-heat.pdf


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[MattNQ]

This bloke's a classic. Chased down a prison escapee.

"He ran through the yard....So I chased him...."

"I haven't run anywhere for years, so it almost killed me...yeah" . 


https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2536697616376309&id=529629870416437


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[xcvator]

I read that and can't help but think that there's more to the story than just drinking from a bottle of water

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Just a bit of false news

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/fresh-twist-in-drinking-water-debacle-as-police-say-driver-made-up-controversial-fine-but-officers-will-prosecute-motorists-who-quench-their-thirst-at-the-wheel/ar-AAIGYdD?ocid=spartandhp

[bob65]

Just a bit of false news

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/fresh-twist-in-drinking-water-debacle-as-police-say-driver-made-up-controversial-fine-but-officers-will-prosecute-motorists-who-quench-their-thirst-at-the-wheel/ar-AAIGYdD?ocid=spartandhp

Yes. I saw that.

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[briann532]

No wonder this country is going backwards. the poor buttercups...

Construction workers to go home if mercury hits 28C and humidity reaches 75 per cent

https://www.news.com.au/finance/work/at-work/construction-workers-to-go-home-if-mercury-hits-28c/news-story/5a28cf69efd566917184141c1b67da12

I've worked regularly in worse than that.
Self employed so I don't get to go home.....
May have to join the union and get a job with one of the big mobs???

Nah, I'll stick to being a decent human.

[Bird]

I've worked regularly in worse than that.
Self employed so I don't get to go home.....
May have to join the union and get a job with one of the big mobs???

Nah, I'll stick to being a decent human.

[gronk]

I was thinking hard rock mines.
But quick google search found this:

https://www.dnrme.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0007/1453174/recognised-standard-18-management-heat.pdf


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I worked all my life in NSW coal mines....must be a Qld thing ? Never seen a thermometer of any sort taken underground ?
Most mines, with the fan running ,would probably be around the 24 deg mark...well under 27 or 29 deg....but the humidity is always pretty high.

[Bird]

FARK!

Eighteen caravans, six boats and one jet ski were destroyed in a Goughs Bay fire overnight, while a further 20 to 25 were damaged by smoke and heat.
Goughs Bay fire destroys caravans, boats, jetski

The fire broke at the caravan park on McKenzie Road just after 11.30 pm on Monday night. There were people in another parts of the park, but not in the affected units.

Eight CFA trucks from seven brigades attended: Mansfield, Bonnie Doon, Goughs Bay-Howes Creek, Maindample, Booroolite & District, Glenroy/Merrijig and Jamieson.

District 23 Commander Trevor Ebbels said the fire measured 100 by 20 metres and was kept to one block of the caravan park.

"The brigades did really well to stop it where they did," he said.

A number of trees were impacted and are being assessed for safety.

A fire investigation is currently underway to determine the cause of the fire.


https://news.cfa.vic.gov.au/-/goughs-bay-fire-destroys-caravans-boats-jetski

[Rodt]

I worked all my life in NSW coal mines....must be a Qld thing ? Never seen a thermometer of any sort taken underground ?
Most mines, with the fan running ,would probably be around the 24 deg mark...well under 27 or 29 deg....but the humidity is always pretty high.

No evacuation requirements but there is guidance when the temp starts to get up there (measured as a Wet Bulb Globe Temperature)

WBTs between 25°- 27° C a qualitative assessment using a basic thermal risk assessment is deemed sufficient. If this assessment identifies a potential problem or for WBTs between 27°-30° C an assessment by a technical expert is recommended. At temperatures above 30° C physiological monitoring is recommended (see health monitoring requirements).

Cheers

Rod

[Bird]

This sounds awesome.. think of one of these engines at the drags...

NASA engine capable of travelling at nearly the speed of light detailed in new report

A NASA scientist has cooked up plans for a bonkers new rocket engine that can reach close to the speed of light — without using any fuel.

Travelling at such speeds, the theoretical machine could carry astronauts to Mars in less than 13 minutes, or to the Moon in just over a second.

However, the real purpose of the so-called “helical engine” would be to travel to distant stars far quicker than any existing tech, according to NASA engineer Dr David Burns.

Dr Burns, from NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Centre in Alabama, unveiled the idea in a head-spinning paper posted to NASA’s website.

“This in-space engine could be used for long-term satellite station-keeping without refuelling,” Dr Burns writes in his paper.

“It could also propel spacecraft across interstellar distances, reaching close to the speed of light.”


Travelling at these speeds, light would struggle to keep up with you, warping your vision in bizarre ways.

Everything behind you would appear black, and time would appear to stop altogether, with clocks slowing down to a crawl and planets seemingly ceasing to spin.

Dr Burns’ mad idea is revolutionary because it does away with rocket fuel altogether.

Today’s rockets, like those built by NASA and SpaceX, would need tonnes of propellants like liquid hydrogen to carry people to Mars and beyond.

..

Using a loophole in the laws of physics, the engine could theoretically reach speeds of around 297 million metres per second, according to Dr Burns.
The contraption is just a concept for now, and it’s not clear if it would actually work.


https://www.news.com.au/technology/science/space/nasa-engine-capable-of-travelling-at-nearly-the-speed-of-light-detailed-in-new-report/news-story/7044fb29fda05f5a402ef696b3abeed9

[Jeepers Creepers]

Travelling at such speeds, the theoretical machine could carry astronauts to Mars in less than 13 minutes, or to the Moon in just over a second.


Does ya brain and internal organs arrive on a second flight or just remain on the launch pad?

Geez Birdie man, what sort of porn were you looking for to find that. 

[Bird]

Travelling at such speeds, the theoretical machine could carry astronauts to Mars in less than 13 minutes, or to the Moon in just over a second.


Does ya brain and internal organs arrive on a second flight or just remain on the launch pad?

Geez Birdie man, what sort of porn were you looking for to find that. 

I have a speed issue 

[Bird]

Honestly how do you get onto these gigs???

Labourers raking in $200k in West Gate wage bonanza
Labourers on the West Gate Tunnel are earning close to $200,000 a year as the building industry warns that wages on state government infrastructure projects are out of control.

Figures from the Master Builders Association of Victoria show an entry level labourer working a basic 36-hour week would be earning $110,000 per year but for the industry standard 56-hour week, they would earn $195,000.

If there's one thing Melbourne is doing a lot of right now, it's massive road and rail projects.

“An entry-level labourer, working no overtime, on a six-figure salary is probably getting paid more than a teacher or other workers,” Master Builders Association chief executive Rebecca Casson told The Age.

“It’s these incredibly high site allowances that really push wages up; these are payable regardless of any of the environmental factors on site.”


A qualified tradesperson, working the standard 56-hour week, would be earning closer to $300,000 per year after various top-up allowances are paid, according to an analysis of the main wage agreement at the $6.7 billion West Gate project by the Master Builders.


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/labourers-raking-in-200k-in-west-gate-wage-bonanza-20191017-p531pz.html