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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1725 on: September 17, 2019, 09:43:46 AM »
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Showed the sign to the wife and son and asked them if they spotted anything wrong. Both didn't  see anything. Then I  pointed out what has been said about it. Both said that's  just taking things too far. And both don't have a racist bone in their bodies.

The sad part, I bet no muslim complained, but some latte' sipping doogooder.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1726 on: September 17, 2019, 01:36:34 PM »
Showed the sign to the wife and son and asked them if they spotted anything wrong. Both didn't  see anything. Then I  pointed out what has been said about it. Both said that's  just taking things too far. And both don't have a racist bone in their bodies.

The original sign read "Non Halal Certified" which would mean that it was certified as being Non Halal. The edited version "Not Halal Certified" means exactly as it reads, ie the business doesn't Halal Certification. Which would be more in line with what he said his reason for the sign was.
I think the butcher was just being a smart @rse, but anyway
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1727 on: September 17, 2019, 03:26:10 PM »
I knew you had to be certified as a halal meat provider but I didn't know you had to be certified as a provider of meat that isn't halal going by your first sentence. There is no such certification as far as I have heard. All we are doing is splitting hairs over the use of the words "non" or "not". Call me illiterate if you like but I still read the sign and all I see is it doesn't sell halal meat, either way. .

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1728 on: September 18, 2019, 07:45:42 AM »
Maybe I'm easily offended, didn't think so.
Does the sign worry or offend me? Not at all.

I looked at it and thought

1. Are they informing Muslims that unfortunately we don't sell Halal?
2. Are they informing Muslims that the meat is Halal, but just hasn't been certified?
3. Are they taking the Piss?
4. Are they informing the public of the type of meat, as if Halal is any different?
5. Are they appealing to people who have a bias?

When I look at the sign, apart from the 3 "offending" words, is there anything that would make a Muslim think it might sell halal meat, such as Arabic writing?

Is Halal any different to non Halal, other than it had its head lopped off in a way to not offend a fictional being?

How prominent are the words compared to the rest of the sign?

The fact there is very little other signage.

The animals?  My take on that was they are there to indicate a traditional Aussie butcher, along withe the simple Black and white sign (clear glass being the white).

Are they appealing to Islamophobes? (As they are not a race)

Are they appealing to people who may have a bias  against a particular group?

When I thought about all that I can to the opinion that the intent was option 5.



I made the comparison to Kuala Lumpur, as over there it was hard to find some foods. First day after a long flight with the fussy toddlers and went to get a simple meal they would eat without a fight. Pizza Hut was the obvious choice, Hawaiin Pizza although it turned out to be a Halal and the kids didn't eat Hawaiin chicken. The on it was easy when we went if we knew the kids wanted pizza or something particular to look for the non halal sign.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1729 on: September 18, 2019, 09:08:18 AM »
I knew you had to be certified as a halal meat provider but I didn't know you had to be certified as a provider of meat that isn't halal going by your first sentence. There is no such certification as far as I have heard. All we are doing is splitting hairs over the use of the words "non" or "not". Call me illiterate if you like but I still read the sign and all I see is it doesn't sell halal meat, either way. .

Correct, hence my statement about him being a smart @rse. But wording and punctuation can dramatically change the meaning of a sentence.
Below, the same wording can have two very different meanings.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1730 on: September 18, 2019, 09:14:23 AM »
Maybe I'm easily offended, didn't think so.
Does the sign worry or offend me? Not at all.

I looked at it and thought

1. Are they informing Muslims that unfortunately we don't sell Halal?
2. Are they informing Muslims that the meat is Halal, but just hasn't been certified?
3. Are they taking the Piss?
4. Are they informing the public of the type of meat, as if Halal is any different?
5. Are they appealing to people who have a bias?

When I look at the sign, apart from the 3 "offending" words, is there anything that would make a Muslim think it might sell halal meat, such as Arabic writing?

Is Halal any different to non Halal, other than it had its head lopped off in a way to not offend a fictional being?

How prominent are the words compared to the rest of the sign?

The fact there is very little other signage.

The animals?  My take on that was they are there to indicate a traditional Aussie butcher, along withe the simple Black and white sign (clear glass being the white).

Are they appealing to Islamophobes? (As they are not a race)

Are they appealing to people who may have a bias  against a particular group?

When I thought about all that I can to the opinion that the intent was option 5.



I made the comparison to Kuala Lumpur, as over there it was hard to find some foods. First day after a long flight with the fussy toddlers and went to get a simple meal they would eat without a fight. Pizza Hut was the obvious choice, Hawaiin Pizza although it turned out to be a Halal and the kids didn't eat Hawaiin chicken. The on it was easy when we went if we knew the kids wanted pizza or something particular to look for the non halal sign.

I came to the conclusion it was 3 and 5 LOL

Speaking of signs in Malaysia, I have an old photo somewhere of a sign for "Halal Hamburgers" that was on a street food cart. Talk about mixed messages.
Why do we call it a "hamburger" anyway, and why do yanks refer to ground beef as "Hamburger" when there is no ham in it?
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1731 on: September 18, 2019, 10:01:01 AM »
Just saw this mentioned: https://www.caradvice.com.au/793740/nsw-slow-down-move-over-laws/

Down to 40k when passing emergency vehicles with their lights flashing, & now also towies & "motorway recovery vehicles" (is that NRMA ???), BUT only on roads below a 90 kph speed limit.

Above 90k, "slow to a "safe and reasonable" speed, give "sufficient space" to those working on the roadside, and "change lanes to keep the lane next to the vehicle free if it is safe to do so"."
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1732 on: September 18, 2019, 05:39:04 PM »
Now I'm just glad I shop at Woolies.

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1733 on: September 19, 2019, 11:06:02 AM »
Very sad... Died without ever finding her kids.. hopefully reunited with them now.


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Mother of missing Beaumont children dies aged 92
Nancy Beaumont, the mother of the three missing Beaumont children, has died in Adelaide aged 92.

Mrs Beaumont passed away on Monday in a nursing home and her death was confirmed in a notice published on Thursday.

The disappearance of her three children Jane, 9, Arnna, 7, and Grant, 4, on Australia Day in 1966 is one of the country's most enduring mysteries.

The children never returned after leaving their parents' home for an afternoon at Glenelg Beach. There was an intense search but they were never found.

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1734 on: September 19, 2019, 01:38:59 PM »
Very sad... Died without ever finding her kids.. hopefully reunited with them now.


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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1735 on: September 19, 2019, 06:50:56 PM »
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Man suffers 'horrific burns' to genitals in Queensland camping mishap

A tourist with "horrific burns" has been winched off an island in north Queensland after a campfire mishap.

The 33-year-old Victorian man suffered burns to 20 per cent of his body, including his groin, when he spilled boiling water on himself on Wednesday night.
The man had been heating up water over a campfire.

The man had been heating up water over a campfire. Credit:Fairfax Media

The RACQ rescue helicopter winched the man off Hook Island, off the north Queensland coast.

A spokeswoman for the rescue service said the man had been hiking and camping with his partner on the island when he spilled the water.

"The Mackay-based rescue helicopter crew made contact with the man’s partner on the island via a mobile phone and she was instructed to light up their camp site on the northern side of Hook Island, facing Hayman Island, with torches and lamps to enable the crew to easily identify their exact position," the spokeswoman said.

"As the helicopter approached the island in the dark with the search light on, the woman had to drag the injured man out of the ocean, where he had been sitting cooling the burns on his thighs, abdomen and genitals for over an hour, and pull him back on to the beach."

The man was taken to Mackay Base Hospital about 9pm before being flown to a specialist burns unit in Brisbane.

"Volunteer Marine Rescue was contacted and was last night headed to Hook Island to retrieve the man’s partner, who had to be left behind," the spokeswoman said.


https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/man-suffers-horrific-burns-to-genitals-in-queensland-camping-mishap-20190919-p52swa.html
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1736 on: September 20, 2019, 04:17:55 AM »
He's lucky a passing croc didn't come in for a burnt snag.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1737 on: September 20, 2019, 07:20:45 AM »
Bugger worrying about the crocs, I'd be more worried about the sharks ..
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1738 on: September 20, 2019, 09:46:01 AM »
I was going to say if he had a roll he could have made a hot dog. But was holding back.

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1739 on: September 20, 2019, 09:55:08 PM »
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/missing-search-underway-for-missing-plane-west-of-coffs-harbour-148172/?station=coffs&fbclid=IwAR271t0ciL8_gfJidhwwhFTgHQWL5elXwdvRq-4JrCQVhxb8qxsWPdOvBKI

A search is underway for a light aircraft missing after it faded off the radar west of Coffs Harbour.

The light plane departed Murwillumbah at 6:30am on Friday, scheduled to arrive in Taree at 8am.

According to Police, the last known communications were about 7.30am.

They have been told the aircraft was missing about 11.45am on Friday.

Triple M understands that two people were on board the Mooney M20 at the time.

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority have tasked the Westpac Rescue Helicopter and a search-and-rescue jet with the search.

The search is scouting bushland about 27km inland from Coffs Harbour, but cloudy weather conditions had complicated the search effort.

Police have setup a base in Dorrigo.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1740 on: September 21, 2019, 10:20:19 AM »
https://www.triplem.com.au/story/breaking-news-crash-site-found-for-missing-plane-148185/?station=coffs&fbclid=IwAR3oyMgdzWq3K2QEDKR4eA6TzkrzfsOK1j637ZHW1Hydsrnr7J5fzBouj7A

The Australian Maritime Safety Authority has located the crash site of a missing Mooney M20 in rugged terrain in the Mid North Coast area.

AMSA had responded to reports of the overdue aircraft since Friday morning.

The Mooney M20 with two people on board, departed from Murwillumbah at 6:30am on Friday, with it expected to arrive in Taree at 8am.

Triple M can confirm that about 6:30am on Saturday the Westpac rescue helicopter located the crash site in the search area about 27 kilometres west of Coffs Harbour.

The search area was based on the last contact with the aircraft’s transponder.

Westpac 4 was unable to winch a person down due to poor weather conditions with rain and low clouds extending to ground level.

NSW Police are now attempting to access the site from the ground. This is will take some time as the site is located in steep and heavily wooded terrain and weather conditions in the area remain poor.

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau have been informed and will be responsible for any investigation into the crash.

More to come...
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1741 on: September 21, 2019, 07:32:36 PM »
A very sad outcome.
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1742 on: September 21, 2019, 07:50:48 PM »
yeah, was a father and son.  Not good
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1743 on: September 21, 2019, 08:04:50 PM »
always sad when a plane goes missing. Unfortunately, these situations often end in tragedy

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1744 on: September 23, 2019, 02:29:58 PM »
... and I thought Thomas Cook would have been a big enough travel agents to trust...

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/travel-company-thomas-cook-collapses-leaving-600-000-travellers-stranded-20190923-p52txy.html

I guess lots of them would be in Shit with under cutting the opposition, you cant keep doing that for ever and survive
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« Reply #1745 on: September 23, 2019, 02:44:34 PM »
... and I thought Thomas Cook would have been a big enough travel agents to trust...

https://www.theage.com.au/business/companies/travel-company-thomas-cook-collapses-leaving-600-000-travellers-stranded-20190923-p52txy.html

I guess lots of them would be in Shit with under cutting the opposition, you cant keep doing that for ever and survive

I suspect it'll be the OTAs that are doing it - the WebJets, Expedia group etc are going to push the traditional travel agents out. Don't be too surprised to see Flight Centre suffering next in the UK (they have a bit of a footprint in the UK, but not much).

Not sure how much of a cut Thomas Cook took on their bookings, but they also leased/owned the planes for some of their destinations which is going to push up the costs, whereas Expedia et al just take about 15% and have no risks (they don't own the hotels, they just take the booking and the money).

Also, when you look at how many brands they have, it's not a surprise to see why Expedia is crowding the incumbents out:
https://www.expediagroup.com/expedia-brands/

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1746 on: September 23, 2019, 04:02:48 PM »
The daft thing about the Thomas Cook fiasco is that it was caused by an investor withdrawing a guarantee of £200 million but, apparently, it's going to cost more than that to get everybody home.

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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1747 on: September 25, 2019, 06:52:22 AM »
An interesting article on renewable energy in Australia. It seems we are doing our bit.


https://apple.news/ALWNWKWlOTdGYYssGZX_U7A


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« Reply #1748 on: September 25, 2019, 08:13:32 AM »
Doc would be Gob Smacked with Australia being able to produce 16 Gigawatts from plain old Solar and wind that easy, Poor bastard needed to try and capture lightning, Weve realy advanced a long way in the power stakes .No need for the garbage powered version  ..
Now we need to get the Chinks to mass produce the FLUX Capacitor and then we could realy stuff the climate change mobs right up, just sell them a preset 1800's Flux capacitor  ..   ;D ;D
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Re: Whats making news - 2019 edition
« Reply #1749 on: September 26, 2019, 02:14:38 PM »
Another day, another large corp scamming staff.. But only the last 9 years and they are sorry.

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