Unmarked police cars , what would you do ?

[Steffo1]

In qld the police have the right to pull you over in a marked or unmarked vehicle. Since the invention of the 'random' breath test, they can randomly profile anyone they want and pull them over for a test and a chat. You do not have the right to continue driving to anywhere you please. You have the right to remain in your locked vehicle until they sufficiently identify themselves which won't take long because they mostly always have badges and guns. If the first one isn't sufficient they'll show you the second one. They also wear uniforms. If you've managed to get pulled up by non uniform Detectives for a traffic breach they'll have a very good reason and may well have guns drawn anyway. I never understood how anyone thought that antagonising a copper would ever further their cause. In other states there are very strong penalties for failing to stop (jades law? Can't recall - a toddler was killed by someone refusing to stop). If you intend to drive to a well lit public area, put your hazards on and slow down so the coppers know that you acknowledge them and intend to comply. They will not do anything unreasonable until you do. Ring police link or 000 if you fully suspect they are not police and comms will work it out within 30 seconds and dispatch many proper coppers to come save your arse.

All so very true....................for city slickers!

[GBC]

All so very true....................for city slickers!

Haha do you know somebody who lives in the country?

[Steffo1]

Haha do you know somebody who lives in the country?

But, of course!!! My main man.

Tjupurulu Mulan. 

[GBC]

But, of course!!! My main man.

Tjupurulu Mulan. 

You spelt it wrong. A lot of unmarked traffic coppers get around the western desert? 

[Steffo1]

To be honest, my "slicker" comment was in reference to the geographical location of the original poster who is in DFNQ (Deep Far North Qld) 

[edz]

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If you've managed to get pulled up by non uniform Detectives for a traffic breach they'll have a very good reason

Yep being p*ssed out of their brains and ticked off that your girlfriend and her two flat mates knocked them and their advances plus an invite to a party back,  Also tended to get you pulled up pretty quick at any hour of the day / night just because you fitted a description and followed for a few weeks, in my town ..

[JD-120]

In qld the police have the right to pull you over in a marked or unmarked vehicle. Since the invention of the 'random' breath test, they can randomly profile anyone they want and pull them over for a test and a chat. You do not have the right to continue driving to anywhere you please. You have the right to remain in your locked vehicle until they sufficiently identify themselves which won't take long because they mostly always have badges and guns. If the first one isn't sufficient they'll show you the second one. They also wear uniforms. If you've managed to get pulled up by non uniform Detectives for a traffic breach they'll have a very good reason and may well have guns drawn anyway. I never understood how anyone thought that antagonising a copper would ever further their cause. In other states there are very strong penalties for failing to stop (jades law? Can't recall - a toddler was killed by someone refusing to stop). If you intend to drive to a well lit public area, put your hazards on and slow down so the coppers know that you acknowledge them and intend to comply. They will not do anything unreasonable until you do. Ring police link or 000 if you fully suspect they are not police and comms will work it out within 30 seconds and dispatch many proper coppers to come save your arse.

Best answer yet.

Refuse to pull over and don't be surprised with a not so polite response.

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[Jeepers Creepers]

don't be surprised with a not so polite response.

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If they have to chase you, it ends up pretty similar too. 

wasn't happy.....

[JusyApples]

Would like to see an official ruling from the police themselves.

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It's quite simply an offence, legislation tells you it is.


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[gronk]

It's quite simply an offence, legislation tells you it is.


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Yep, and for the nervous people who think otherwise, if a half normal looking bloke (or female ) pulls you over, and shows you their badge, it's about this time you start saying yes sir , no sir and anything else they want to know. And with a lot of luck, they MIGHT just let you off with a warning for the thing you just did wrong !! 

[alnjan]

By the same token, the Police, have been doing their job for a while.  They can tell the difference between someone refusing to stop and someone not stopping.  Yes there a difference.  They are aware some people do have concerns about an unmarked vehicle pulling them over.  Particularly at night, Police would rather pull are vehicle over in a well light, not for your safety, but for their safety.  If you have concerns, firstly acknowledge them, by slowing firstly.  Like I say, there is a big difference between refusing to stop and not stopping. 

[JusyApples]

By the same token, the Police, have been doing their job for a while.  They can tell the difference between someone refusing to stop and someone not stopping.  Yes there a difference.  They are aware some people do have concerns about an unmarked vehicle pulling them over.  Particularly at night, Police would rather pull are vehicle over in a well light, not for your safety, but for their safety.  If you have concerns, firstly acknowledge them, by slowing firstly.  Like I say, there is a big difference between refusing to stop and not stopping.

In saying that though highway cars have cameras. If you do not call a pursuit on the radio you get a big kick up the butt so there is a high likelihood you will face a legal process


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[alnjan]

In saying that though highway cars have cameras. If you do not call a pursuit on the radio you get a big kick up the butt so there is a high likelihood you will face a legal process


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Big difference between a pursuit, refusing to stop and not stopping. 

[D4D]

Topical https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/man-arrested-in-werribee-for-impersonating-police?fbclid=IwAR2CUV6jDL6Q0RylrDt3qmiDtDkjETSKR3HCULkzIDx6zIypI_p-cTu5Xdc

[Hoyks]

Explaining yourself is a nice idea, provided you get the chance.

This was a marked car though...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-20/police-officer-draws-gun-on-pensioner-and-pepper-sprays-her-dog/10419258

[KingBilly]

Explaining yourself is a nice idea, provided you get the chance.

This was a marked car though...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-20/police-officer-draws-gun-on-pensioner-and-pepper-sprays-her-dog/10419258

This should be in the what made me smile thread

There are always two sides to every story and somewhere in between is the truth.  Unfortunately, the media only ever chooses to report the sensational side of a story. Bet the ABC will never report the court outcome.

KB

[Hoyks]

The whole clip was floating around for a while.

Cop pulls in behind her and puts his lights on.
she drives on...
lights and siren
she drives on
lights, siren, flashing headlights and horn
she pulls over a bit and slows
cop pulls in behind her
she drives back on to the road, drives home and parks in the shed

'I thought he was after someone else'   

Cop over reacted, maybe. Should she still have a license....

[Bird]

Explaining yourself is a nice idea, provided you get the chance.

This was a marked car though...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-20/police-officer-draws-gun-on-pensioner-and-pepper-sprays-her-dog/10419258

Sorry but she is too ****in stupid to have a license.
You see a marked ambo/firetruck/bacon car following you bells and whistles, and you don't pull over (someone of her age should know what to do by now), then she should have had the book thrown at her, but the felame judge bought the whole box and dice.

[Hairs]

Sorry but she is too ****in stupid to have a license.
felame judge bought the whole box and dice.

90% aren't capable.

A bleeding heart.


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[Troopy_03]

This should be in the what made me smile thread

There are always two sides to every story and somewhere in between is the truth.  Unfortunately, the media only ever chooses to report the sensational side of a story. Bet the ABC will never report the court outcome.

KB

Yep, he's not only a wanker, he is arrogant. Hope she sues his arse off.

[KingBilly]

Yep, he's not only a wanker, he is arrogant. Hope she sues his arse off.

A well balanced, thoughtful response 

KB

[Merts]

Yep, he's not only a wanker, he is arrogant. Hope she sues his arse off.

Whilst pulling the gun may have been an overreaction, it's a matter of fact that she failed to stop, and she was driving an unregistered vehicle. The mind blowing thing here is that the magistrate dismissed the charges when she was clearly guilty.

[Pete79]

There is always 2 sides to every story...

One side;

"Fines for driving unregistered vehicles have accelerated in NSW since the removal of car registration stickers in 2013, with hapless motorists blaming the state government for not sending reminders to renew registration.

Fines for driving unregistered in NSW, worth more than $240 million in state revenue over the past six years, are up from about 60,000 to 65,000 last year. There was a sharp jump in fines when registration stickers were first removed in 2013, and five years on they remained elevated, suggesting drivers have not adjusted to the new system.

Erasing rego stickers was sold as a "making life easier" measure but many drivers told The Sun-Herald it served as an everyday reminder. They say they were not contacted, reminded by post, email or SMS before NSW Police pulled them over and gave them two fines – one for being unregistered and one for being uninsured, worth $673 each."

And the other side;

"THE last thing police expected when scanning for unregistered cars at their local station was to nab two of their own.

But that's just what happened when a highway patrol car fitted with Automatic Number Plate Recognition technology, known as ANPR, started reading plates in the Windsor Police Station carpark.

Two police vehicles were red flagged by the system last month for being unregistered and, therefore, uninsured, meaning its officers had been breaking the law each time they put them on the road.

The rogue vehicles were revealed as a mobile police van and a trailer used to launch the command's police boat.

The station's commander, Superintendent Steve Egginton, said both vehicles had been unregistered for several weeks.

A police spokesman said a paperwork error was to blame for the rego bungle, the same excuse used by thousands of drivers pinged every year by the ANPR system.

But unlike the average NSW motorist, the station's commanding officers decided to let themselves off without a fine, declaring that the vehicles hadn't been in use at the time they were caught, and therefore no law was being flouted."


See 2 sides to every story, or as its more commonly known "one rule them, different rules for everyone else".

[MDS69]

There is always 2 sides to every story...

One side;

"Fines for driving unregistered vehicles have accelerated in NSW since the removal of car registration stickers in 2013, with hapless motorists blaming the state government for not sending reminders to renew registration.

Fines for driving unregistered in NSW, worth more than $240 million in state revenue over the past six years, are up from about 60,000 to 65,000 last year. There was a sharp jump in fines when registration stickers were first removed in 2013, and five years on they remained elevated, suggesting drivers have not adjusted to the new system.

Erasing rego stickers was sold as a "making life easier" measure but many drivers told The Sun-Herald it served as an everyday reminder. They say they were not contacted, reminded by post, email or SMS before NSW Police pulled them over and gave them two fines – one for being unregistered and one for being uninsured, worth $673 each."

And the other side;

"THE last thing police expected when scanning for unregistered cars at their local station was to nab two of their own.

But that's just what happened when a highway patrol car fitted with Automatic Number Plate Recognition technology, known as ANPR, started reading plates in the Windsor Police Station carpark.

Two police vehicles were red flagged by the system last month for being unregistered and, therefore, uninsured, meaning its officers had been breaking the law each time they put them on the road.

The rogue vehicles were revealed as a mobile police van and a trailer used to launch the command's police boat.

The station's commander, Superintendent Steve Egginton, said both vehicles had been unregistered for several weeks.

A police spokesman said a paperwork error was to blame for the rego bungle, the same excuse used by thousands of drivers pinged every year by the ANPR system.

But unlike the average NSW motorist, the station's commanding officers decided to let themselves off without a fine, declaring that the vehicles hadn't been in use at the time they were caught, and therefore no law was being flouted."


See 2 sides to every story, or as its more commonly known "one rule them, different rules for everyone else".

When my rego is due in NSW I get two reminders. The first is when the current green slip insurer sends me a renewal and the second is when the RMS sends me my rego renewal papers. Haven't missed a rego renewal yet.

[shanegtr]

There is always 2 sides to every story...

One side;

"Fines for driving unregistered vehicles have accelerated in NSW since the removal of car registration stickers in 2013, with hapless motorists blaming the state government for not sending reminders to renew registration.

Fines for driving unregistered in NSW, worth more than $240 million in state revenue over the past six years, are up from about 60,000 to 65,000 last year. There was a sharp jump in fines when registration stickers were first removed in 2013, and five years on they remained elevated, suggesting drivers have not adjusted to the new system.

Erasing rego stickers was sold as a "making life easier" measure but many drivers told The Sun-Herald it served as an everyday reminder. They say they were not contacted, reminded by post, email or SMS before NSW Police pulled them over and gave them two fines – one for being unregistered and one for being uninsured, worth $673 each."

And the other side;

"THE last thing police expected when scanning for unregistered cars at their local station was to nab two of their own.

But that's just what happened when a highway patrol car fitted with Automatic Number Plate Recognition technology, known as ANPR, started reading plates in the Windsor Police Station carpark.

Two police vehicles were red flagged by the system last month for being unregistered and, therefore, uninsured, meaning its officers had been breaking the law each time they put them on the road.

The rogue vehicles were revealed as a mobile police van and a trailer used to launch the command's police boat.

The station's commander, Superintendent Steve Egginton, said both vehicles had been unregistered for several weeks.

A police spokesman said a paperwork error was to blame for the rego bungle, the same excuse used by thousands of drivers pinged every year by the ANPR system.

But unlike the average NSW motorist, the station's commanding officers decided to let themselves off without a fine, declaring that the vehicles hadn't been in use at the time they were caught, and therefore no law was being flouted."


See 2 sides to every story, or as its more commonly known "one rule them, different rules for everyone else".

I fail to see how that example is "one rule them, different rules for everyone else". If the vehicles where not being used at the time what is the offence? No different to having an unregistered vehicle sitting in your driveway - you cant get pinged for it if its not being used