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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #25 on: September 29, 2019, 08:59:50 PM »
A simple polarity test, conducted by a competent electrician with the MEN link removed would have detected this fault and is part of normal testing procedure for any work conducted on the premises.
It’s very sad moment for the family, I hope she is ok


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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #27 on: September 30, 2019, 07:44:47 AM »
Yeah - it's a hell of a thing to say, but one of those times when it would have been better to NOT do CPR on the victim :'(
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2019, 08:09:00 AM »
A simple polarity test, conducted by a competent electrician with the MEN link removed would have detected this fault and is part of normal testing procedure for any work conducted on the premises.

An even lazier way is to put a tong around the MEN and turn the kettle on - you'll soon see where the return path is.

Seeing things like this make me sick in the guts because it seems pretty clear the electrician(s) didn't do their job properly.
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #29 on: September 30, 2019, 08:55:54 AM »
Speaking in their defence & not knowing what happened ...

I wonder if it was the same bloke each time, or whether those 5 call-outs were done by Fred, Tom, Dick, Harry & now Bill is out there. Does Bill have any idea of what was checked previously, or is he thinking Hmmm, OK, first thing to check is this & it test's OK ??? Yes, the Dept has records of what was reported & done each time, but is that info passed to the sparkie on the scene ???
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2019, 09:58:07 AM »
I just know if I had a problem, I'd be calling Symon!
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2019, 11:33:30 AM »
Speaking in their defence & not knowing what happened ...

I wonder if it was the same bloke each time, or whether those 5 call-outs were done by Fred, Tom, Dick, Harry & now Bill is out there. Does Bill have any idea of what was checked previously, or is he thinking Hmmm, OK, first thing to check is this & it test's OK ??? Yes, the Dept has records of what was reported & done each time, but is that info passed to the sparkie on the scene ???

Either way it still isn't a good picture - if it was the same person who was called out each time then surely they would have thought to themselves at some point "hmmm... maybe there is more to this, I should do more testing".  But if it was a different person each time you would hope that one of them may have thought to check the neutral connection, it seems strange that the recorded actions are identical on each occasion so it may have been the same person each time?

Perhaps a failing of the process is that the previous history is not given to the electrician when they are called out.  We don't really know and are unlikely to unless it goes to court - it looks like the mother is pursuing that so perhaps more information will be released in future.
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2019, 02:48:24 PM »
Whenever someone rings me about lights flickering or tingles in the shower, I straightaway get them to call Western Power (I do it myself if they are reluctant) to check out the incoming line. 4 out of 5 times it’s an issue with the mains connection box and it usually gets fixed for free if it’s a quick job. If it’s gonna take long than 5mins to fix, WP just cut off the power and say “get a sparky to fix it” anyway. No point me going there if only WP can fix the issue.

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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2019, 06:16:15 PM »
One of the many jobs I do as a sparky is "neutral integrity testing"

Any wirejerker should know about it. MEN is a standardised system in Oz.
I would love to know if or how they got a license?
Also are they going to be held accountable for their incompetence?

Poor kid, just going about her life and getting hurt through no fault of her own.
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2019, 03:48:02 PM »
If RCDs won't pick this up, is there any tell tale signs to look for?
Or is it a matter until we have unexplained tingles and dimming?
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Re: Young girl fighting for life after an electric shock
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2019, 06:44:37 PM »
Hi,
  In Tas we get issued with a plugin device that detects faulty neutrals. My son's was beeping occasionally , so we swapped with a neighbour and that beeped occasionally too.
Turned out to be a loose connection on the power-in wires from the street and was triggered by the wind blowing the wires about.

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