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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2016, 01:14:07 PM »
Quote from: Footy Shorts Shane on August 22, 2016, 07:19:42 AM

You're boring.


Dont worry man, if it hadnt being the wifes car, id probably would of happened.
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2016, 01:16:31 PM »
Quote from: Bird on August 22, 2016, 10:39:45 AM
https://cumminsengines.com/pickup-truck
saw quite a few titans when i was over there, awesome looking truck
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2016, 01:24:47 PM »
Quote from: oldmate on August 22, 2016, 01:14:07 PM

Dont worry man, if it hadnt being the wifes car, id probably would of happened.

Can't wait for the wife to get a new car, cause the LS1 is coming out of it and into mine  ;D
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2016, 01:35:20 PM »
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saw quite a few titans when i was over there, awesome looking truck

There was a right hand drive one you could win at the show on the weekend... Done by James Hill at American Autos in Rowville....

They are HUGE.. the passengers doors were bigger than the front doors..
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2016, 04:03:24 PM »
Thank you all for the replies so far.  It is a big decision due to the cost, so wanted to get a few opinions.  As this vehicle does a lot of towing - just wondering how thirsty the LS motors would be. 

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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »
Quote from: peanut2 on August 22, 2016, 04:03:24 PM
Thank you all for the replies so far.  It is a big decision due to the cost, so wanted to get a few opinions.  As this vehicle does a lot of towing - just wondering how thirsty the LS motors would be. 

Peanut
What sort of weight do you tow and how often would you say?
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2016, 04:09:05 PM »
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Thank you all for the replies so far.  It is a big decision due to the cost, so wanted to get a few opinions.  As this vehicle does a lot of towing - just wondering how thirsty the LS motors would be.


a fair whack more thirsty than a grenade, but would also last a lot longer than a grenade with power to spare..

or
http://www.brunswickdiesels.com.au/ but use KY when you get the price.

http://www.marks4wd.com/engine-conversions/bell-housing-adaptors/nissan/ls-v8-engines.html

http://dellowconversions.com.au/product/conversion-kit-manual-chev-v8-ls-1-2-3-to-nissan-patrol-gq-gu-5-speed/
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2016, 04:15:37 PM »
Quote from: 99disco on August 22, 2016, 04:05:45 PM
What sort of weight do you tow and how often would you say?

Mainly a gooseneck horsefloat.  Loaded would be the equivalent of say towing a normal 3t trailer.  The gooseneck (4.5t) is attached to the middle of the tray, rather than the rear of the vehicle.  We also tow a normal horsefloat and also a caravan.  Of the 10000km/year, probably 75% of that is towing kms.

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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2016, 04:24:03 PM »
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2016, 04:24:25 PM »
just to chuck in more options
i saw a patrol ute 4.2 td for sale on the weekend on anzac ave redcliffe
about 17k

saw it as i was driving past and it had the 4.2 stickers on the side so i can only guess its a 4.2
might be worth a look

http://www.redcliffewholesalecars.com.au/view.php/wholesale_used_cars_redcliffe/2005_Nissan_Patrol_GU_II_DX_White_5_Speed_Manual_Cab_Chassis/11752665/

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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2016, 07:41:46 PM »
Quote from: peanut2 on August 22, 2016, 04:15:37 PM
Mainly a gooseneck horsefloat.  Loaded would be the equivalent of say towing a normal 3t trailer.  The gooseneck (4.5t) is attached to the middle of the tray, rather than the rear of the vehicle.  We also tow a normal horsefloat and also a caravan.  Of the 10000km/year, probably 75% of that is towing kms.

Peanut

If that's the intended use I would say you'd be disappointed with an ls1 conversion, not saying their not good but their designed for a 2.5t commodore not hauling 6.5-7t with the aerodynamics of a house.

I know it's a lot of dough but I honestly stand by a duramax for that sort of use, for the money Brunswick diesels are asking for a boat anchor 6.5 I'd put an extra ~ $5000 with it for the duramax.
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2016, 07:48:00 PM »
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If that's the intended use I would say you'd be disappointed with an ls1 conversion, not saying their not good but their designed for a 2.5t commodore not hauling 6.5-7t with the aerodynamics of a house.

he was expecting and doing it using a 3ltr!!!! he's be rubbin one off with a LS1....


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I know it's a lot of dough but I honestly stand by a duramax for that sort of use, for the money Brunswick diesels are asking for a boat anchor 6.5 I'd put an extra ~ $5000 with it for the duramax.
30k for Chev 6.5
bout 50k for the Duramax, drive in drive out isn't good value in any of my books. and most conversions I've heard of first hand have been nightmares


Whats your budget ???
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2016, 08:03:07 PM »
Mate of mine just did an LS3 conversion on an early 3L GU. He did it himself.
Before he committed he asked me what it would cost and I told him $15k+ if he did it himself. He knew better and thought $7k tops, as he was doing it himself.
Last figure he told me was $16k and it still wasn't wired, tuned or close to running. It's running now and he loves it.

Anywho, his running 3L was still sitting in the corner of his workshop last time I was there. If it's still there, his wife would sell it for beer money, as it was 'blown up beyond repair,' hence the LS3 conversion.

Let me know if you want me to see if it's still there. Only a couple of hours from Kingaroy on the Sunshine Coast.

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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2016, 08:24:39 PM »
Quote from: Bird on August 22, 2016, 07:48:00 PM

he was expecting and doing it using a 3ltr!!!! he's be rubbin one off with a LS1....

30k for Chev 6.5
bout 50k for the Duramax, drive in drive out isn't good value in any of my books. and most conversions I've heard of first hand have been nightmares


Whats your budget ???

Last 2 people I've personally spoken to payed $38k from Brunswick for turbo intercool 6.5 kkk advertises duramax for $45k
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2016, 08:32:32 PM »
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Last 2 people I've personally spoken to payed $38k from Brunswick for turbo intercool 6.5 kkk advertises duramax for $45k
haven't spoken to anyone bout th 6.5 since I looked into it myself yonks ago, but there are unlimited extras, like types of radiator/starter all adding up fast..

And the 3 dudes I know with duramax, one was Qld by the original "expert", but it Shit itself on the way back to Melb after picking it up and had to be flat trucked back to Melb... but  he imported his own engine/box... its since then caught fire too.

and other 2 paid drive in/drive out in Melb, both 50k... both have had nothing but issues...
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #40 on: August 23, 2016, 01:18:28 AM »
Quote from: Bird on August 22, 2016, 08:32:32 PM
haven't spoken to anyone bout th 6.5 since I looked into it myself yonks ago, but there are unlimited extras, like types of radiator/starter all adding up fast..

And the 3 dudes I know with duramax, one was Qld by the original "expert", but it Shit itself on the way back to Melb after picking it up and had to be flat trucked back to Melb... but  he imported his own engine/box... its since then caught fire too.

and other 2 paid drive in/drive out in Melb, both 50k... both have had nothing but issues...

Did the drive in/out include a business in Richmond (Melb.) Bruce?
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #41 on: August 23, 2016, 08:58:18 AM »
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Did the drive in/out include a business in Richmond (Melb.) Bruce?
Nope. one was Warrigul area other I'm not sure on
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2016, 10:20:26 AM »
just to get way off topic
what would one expect to import a chevy ute with a 6.7lt and auto for?
can you just get a front cut?


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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #43 on: August 23, 2016, 10:40:31 AM »
Quote from: fergy on August 23, 2016, 10:20:26 AM
just to get way off topic
what would one expect to import a chevy ute with a 6.7lt and auto for?
can you just get a front cut?


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevrolet-Silverado-2500-CREW-CAB-4WD-/262586932004?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3d23669b24:g:3ZMAAOSwMtxXt4vB&item=262586932004

Bring it in as parts (bit of mucking around, but can be done) on a RO-RO and would owe you around $20k landed. Probably regain $5k in the body, diffs etc.
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #44 on: August 23, 2016, 10:57:11 AM »
that ute has a lot of kms on it
thanks shane
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #45 on: August 23, 2016, 05:01:54 PM »
Sounds like bloody big dollars for a conversion.  For the conversion costs you could buy a new Ranger, BT50 or Isuzu or pretty much any single cab tray back on the market. 

Only 50,000 km on the 3 litre?  Any idea what is wrong?  It is not a grenade as they were the earlier models.

Appreciate you are towing heavy loads.  Too under powered for that purpose. 

If you really want  to keep the patrol repair/replace the 3 litre as others have said then get it well tuned and perhaps an ECU remap.  Apparently the remap will provide some additional much needed power.

Also join patrol4x4 and nissanpatrol forums for a read.

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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #46 on: August 23, 2016, 05:41:04 PM »
I've got a CRD 3.0 Patrol.  To get more power I added a 3" exhaust, after market programmable cpu, larger intercooler and a larger bonnet scoop.  These were all recommended to me and they added a lot more power at a lot less than a different engine.

Whether this would be enough for your needs is a different matter.  You could go to a bigger turbo ???
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #47 on: August 24, 2016, 08:45:10 PM »
I gave up on our small ozzie engines and bought an f250 7.3l, big tank but does the job towing 3T, the 4.2 patrol above is only rated to 2.5T. Fix the engine and get rid of it, conversions are an ongoing nightmare sometimes!
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #48 on: August 25, 2016, 08:50:06 AM »
Quote from: hempo on August 23, 2016, 05:01:54 PM
It is not a grenade as they were the earlier models.



They are all grenades. worst thing Nissan ever did to the Patrol
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Re: Engine Conversion for Patrol Ute
« Reply #49 on: August 25, 2016, 09:09:11 AM »
Quote from: Joff on August 25, 2016, 08:50:06 AM
They are all grenades. worst thing Nissan ever did to the Patrol

I'm yet to see reports of a crd version "grenading" like the di did ie cracked Pistons ect.
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