Is it time for the 80 to move on?

[grafy82]

Ok, we've just come home from a 2 week holiday in Brisbane with the camper trailer. The old 80 series, ever reliable but always slow, really scared me this trip. As most would know there are some quite steep hills in Brisvegas. We had to stop half way up one of these in traffic with the camper on. When I went to take off I gave it some while riding the clutch. I ended up with the clutch out and foot flat to the floor and the big girl only JUST made its way forward. I was really afraid it would either spit the clutch, or stall and have us roll back into the car behind us. The cruiser was loaded and the camper weighs in at about 1200kg. Should it be this bad with what would seem a modest tow weight? She's only just cracked 240000kms on this trip and has always been serviced and well maintained. Its got me thinking of buying a petrol model, thought the fuel consumption scares me. I know the whole turbo it argument has been killed to death already. Not sure i want to spend that much on an older vehicle. Has anyone else's non turbo cruiser scared them like this?

[MattNQ]

I'll sell you a well used Petrol Nissan. 
I have sopped up the coolant in the footwell now so it's almost showroom condition   

[grafy82]

I'll sell you a well used Petrol Nissan. 
I have sopped up the coolant in the footwell now so it's almost showroom condition   

Nissan? I never said I would stoop that low  Speaking of coolant, I just had my fair share of it spraying everything under the car when the water pump decided to poo itself. All sorted now though.

[Black Diamond]

Ok, we've just come home from a 2 week holiday in Brisbane with the camper trailer. The old 80 series, ever reliable but always slow, really scared me this trip. As most would know there are some quite steep hills in Brisvegas. We had to stop half way up one of these in traffic with the camper on. When I went to take off I gave it some while riding the clutch. I ended up with the clutch out and foot flat to the floor and the big girl only JUST made its way forward. I was really afraid it would either spit the clutch, or stall and have us roll back into the car behind us. The cruiser was loaded and the camper weighs in at about 1200kg. Should it be this bad with what would seem a modest tow weight? She's only just cracked 240000kms on this trip and has always been serviced and well maintained. Its got me thinking of buying a petrol model, thought the fuel consumption scares me. I know the whole turbo it argument has been killed to death already. Not sure i want to spend that much on an older vehicle. Has anyone else's non turbo cruiser scared them like this?

Mine's auto so don't have that issue. If you get in that situation again just pop it into low until you clear the hill.   

[grafy82]

Mine's auto so don't have that issue. If you get in that situation again just pop it into low until you clear the hill.   

Haha, that would have been funny with about a kilometer long line of traffic behind me.

[Bird]

Just put the turbo on, its only just run in.

[alnjan]

What Bird said

[edz]

Could always fit a lexus bent 8 with a huffer on it or LSI ... most likey be half the cost of rebuild / replacement of the donk or the rig and pull like a train .

[Black Diamond]

Haha, that would have been funny with about a kilometer long line of traffic behind me.

better than cooking the clutch 

[dazzler]

It needs a new pressure plate / clutch assembly and will be as good as new.

Sorry I misread - I thought the clutch was slipping the whole way.

My bad.

Just get a petrol one and be done with it.  Even if you turbo it you still have an ancient old diesel returning figures not much better than the petrol version at 1/2 the speed.

There are plenty out there that will pay good money for an 80 and that would be more than enough to get into a late model GXL 100series petrol.  Just dont allow the front wheels to pogo up step ups so they suddenly bite and break the front diff.

We had the 4500 petrol 100 series and towed our off road race buggy and gear all over the east coast and passed anyone in our way. 

Ahh petrol power 

[Bird]

It needs a new pressure plate / clutch assembly and will be as good as new.

... and a turbo.

[dazzler]

BTW our 100 series petrol manual got 16 on the highway and 18 around town.  Thats in Tassie which is pretty hilly.

Stay close to std in tyre size otherwise they use a lot more fuel. 

Seriously, whats the diesel average?  I doubt it would be much less than 15 around town.  And when your towing just close you eyes at the bumper and grin on the open road.  And your on the open road FAR more than at the bowser so the giggle ratio is great and you get to do this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4XIMr5nr2c

[cruiser 91]

My 1991 80 series 4L carby  is still going strong and as reliable as ever.
Fuel consumption in 80 series petrol usage is only 1/3 more than diesels but parts and servicing is a whole lot cheaper.

[muzza01]

Putting a turbo and exhaust in my 1HZ cas completely transformed my Cruza. Chalk and cheese now with power. I have quite a few accessories on mine and a roofrack so my fuel figures arn't as good as most but we're 13lt per 100 as a daily driver now 14 lt after the turbo and exhaust. I am sure I could decrease my figures down from 14 but when you have the power you end up putting your foot down to use it.

[Bird]

...but when you have the power you end up putting your foot down to use it.

I'd agree with that.. specially today in the wet

[Beachman]

I understand what people are saying about swapping to a petrol, but if you know the history and it's got the accessories you need and apart from this episode it's reliable, then maybe fitting a turbo and maybe having the pump reconditioned might be all you need.

I drive  100 series 1HZ and I was under the impression fitting turbo's to these can cause reliability problems, but I thought the 80 series handled the turbo better due to some slightly stronger engine parts.   

[Bird]

http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=30349.msg717897#msg717897

[Hairs]

What Bird said

X2

[grafy82]

better than cooking the clutch 

That was my next thought. Wouldn't want to put it through that too many times.

Could always fit a lexus bent 8 with a huffer on it or LSI ... most likey be half the cost of rebuild / replacement of the donk or the rig and pull like a train .

Would love that option too, bar the extra fuel and rego. There was an absolutely mint, 1lady owner v8 100 series on car sales for $14000.

It needs a new pressure plate / clutch assembly and will be as good as new.

Sorry I misread - I thought the clutch was slipping the whole way.

My bad.

Just get a petrol one and be done with it.  Even if you turbo it you still have an ancient old diesel returning figures not much better than the petrol version at 1/2 the speed.

There are plenty out there that will pay good money for an 80 and that would be more than enough to get into a late model GXL 100series petrol.  Just dont allow the front wheels to pogo up step ups so they suddenly bite and break the front diff.

We had the 4500 petrol 100 series and towed our off road race buggy and gear all over the east coast and passed anyone in our way. 

Ahh petrol power 

No clutch slipping....yet. And yes, my diesel uses around 13-14L around town and on the last trip towing the camper down south, I was high 17's to mid 18's with standard size tires and staying around 95km/hr.

Putting a turbo and exhaust in my 1HZ cas completely transformed my Cruza. Chalk and cheese now with power. I have quite a few accessories on mine and a roofrack so my fuel figures arn't as good as most but we're 13lt per 100 as a daily driver now 14 lt after the turbo and exhaust. I am sure I could decrease my figures down from 14 but when you have the power you end up putting your foot down to use it.

I would love to turbo as I've driven a 105 that my BIL just bought with an aftermarket turbo on it and you can definitely tell the difference, but for where I'm at right now it will be a case of having to sell to fund an upgrade vehicle.
    Beachman, it does have a lot of accessories on it that I like, but not big things like lockers or winches that cost a lot. I'm not sure that the 80series 1hz's are stronger than the 100series and I guess I would always have that reliability bug in the back of my mind.
    And Bird, don't think the missus would let me mortgage the house to drop one a them babies in the rig.

If I could talk down the price on an unmolested, low kays unit like this, I reckon I could be swayed. I do love the 80's. http://www.carsales.mobi/cars/details/1993-Toyota-Landcruiser-GXL-FZJ80R/SSE-AD-3331752?DistanceFromMePostcode=4812

[Swannie]

Won't go wrong with a petty 80, I absolutely love mine

Swannie

[grafy82]

Won't go wrong with a petty 80, I absolutely love mine

Swannie

Shows how much attention I've been paying. I thought yours was a diesel for some reason. Have to go back and look at your thread again 

[Bird]

And Bird, don't think the missus would let me mortgage the house to drop one a them babies in the rig.

its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission....

[grafy82]

its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission....

Hahaha, you haven't met my missus. 

[dales133]

Won't go wrong with a petty 80, I absolutely love mine

Swannie

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Be nice if petrol was cheaper tbough

[grafy82]

Well thanks for that Swannie. Just read Franks entire thread instead of getting to bed. Great work, you wouldn't want to swap for a well looked after diesel 80 with slightly better fuel economy by any chance?