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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2015, 08:15:36 AM »
Got bored last night so took them out of storage. Would be atleast 5 years since last use and both fired up with the fuel that was still in them.

The only thing I would suggest for travelling or storage is let the pressure out of the tank.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2015, 08:15:46 AM »
Good stuff Jamie, I noticed yours is a 424 model,meet the one rays is selling is a 414, I wonder what the difference is?
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2015, 08:16:38 AM »
Thanks guey.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2015, 08:19:01 AM »
Just one more question,mare you guys running unleaded, shelllite or the Coleman fuel in them?
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2015, 08:19:41 AM »
Hasn't been used for ages, all I did was wipe the dust and cobwebs off, gave it some fuel, followed the lighting instructions and away it went :cup:

Just as well I did as it looks like the o-ring has perished in the fuel valve as it is leaking a bit under pressure. Just as well I can get parts and it is not a throw away item :)



Try tightening it up a little. Mine did the same and all good now.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2015, 08:22:51 AM »
Just one more question,mare you guys running unleaded, shelllite or the Coleman fuel in them?
I only used to run shellite (cheaper) but no one around home seems to sell it anymore.
So I ended up using the Coleman fuel. Was more for the lantern as it gave it a much brighter light.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2015, 08:25:23 AM »
Thanks Guey, what am I tightening up? I may have had too much pressure in the tank.

Swannie, I run Coleman fuel. I've had the tin of fuel as long as I have had the stove, 15+ years. The tin is almost empty.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2015, 08:27:02 AM »
I noticed yours is a 424 model,meet the one rays is selling is a 414, I wonder what the difference is?

I think the burners are a different power output.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2015, 08:38:16 AM »
Thanks Guey, what am I tightening up? I may have had too much pressure in the tank.

Swannie, I run Coleman fuel. I've had the tin of fuel as long as I have had the stove, 15+ years. The tin is almost empty.

The two with the red arrows. Just nip them up slightly.
Their is a seal inside where I marked the yellow arrow but you should get extra tightening out of it.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2015, 08:46:15 AM »
Thanks, appears my leak is coming from the shaft itself.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2015, 08:56:38 AM »
Have a good look and make sure it isn't seeping down. Very unusal spot for them to leak.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2015, 10:08:13 AM »
Here's a pic of the leak.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2015, 04:06:12 PM »
If you undo the front nut,



You will see the seal inside. It is like a long graphite seal.
Once this is off you can undo and slide the needle out. You need to unscrew it by turning it to the left ( like turning it on ).



Close up of the needle base. This also has a brass washer on it.



Front pic of where the needle seats. This is where part of the seal gets gummed up.



Clean it up, reassemble nipping it up tight and bob should be your sister with no more leaks :)

Note: when you put the front sealing nut back on and tighten, have the on/off knob half to three quarters open as the sealing nut will want to tighten the needle as it goes.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2015, 04:13:33 PM »
Sorry for the hijack swannie, but It may help you out in the future :)
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2015, 04:17:45 PM »
Thanks again GUEY. I tightened everything up again when it was cold and that seems to have done the trick. I'll try it again tomorrow.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2015, 04:20:31 PM »
All good guey, just in my way hone with my new one:)
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2015, 04:27:52 PM »
Where did you get the Coleman Fuel from? I need another tin but can't find it anywhere...
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2015, 04:56:26 PM »
Guey can I ask how far apart the three burners would be ... Would it  fit a 300mm frying pan and two meduim large saucepans on at the same time ? and any fitment for screw in legs ?.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2015, 05:11:57 PM »
... and any fitment for screw in legs ?

Nope but they fit fine on those cheapo strove stands.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2015, 05:17:07 PM »
Hey Geoff, plenty of room in Frankie :). But you make a good point re the fuel and storage/traveling with it for the blokes that have one do you drain it before traveling?
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Nope  -- I actually fill the tank of the cooker before I travel  ;D  I actually use the tank of the cooker for the fuel storage  -- lasted all Easter  -- Still quite full, maybe I didn't cook enough.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #45 on: April 18, 2015, 05:40:54 PM »
Guey can I ask how far apart the three burners would be ... Would it  fit a 300mm frying pan and two meduim large saucepans on at the same time ? and any fitment for screw in legs ?.
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The 3 burner is 720mm oa.
From left side to centre of left burner is 120mm. Then 235mm centre to centre of the other burners.
Not sure if you can still buy them anymore.
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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #46 on: April 18, 2015, 05:42:42 PM »
Where did you get the Coleman Fuel from? I need another tin but can't find it anywhere...

I have asked today around and they say it's not made anymore and to use shelllite?

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #47 on: April 18, 2015, 05:45:13 PM »
... you make a good point re the fuel and storage/traveling with it for the blokes that have one do you drain it before traveling?

I haven't had a problem with leaking fuel whilst travelling. Upright, sideways, end on - no worries. I did have a similar problem to Jamie with leakage under pressure - Rays etc have a heap of spare parts and it was fixed up in no time. Great in the Alpine environs when those 'dangerous' cookers become safe....as they won't light/go...  ;D

I don't use unleaded unless I have to - just run shellite with a cap full of metho mixed in as an anti water agent.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #48 on: April 18, 2015, 05:48:52 PM »
I have asked today around and they say it's not made anymore and to use shelllite?

Could be a state thing? I can get Coleman fuel from the camping stores but can't seem to find shellite anymore.
Tentworld is showing as unavailable on their website now, but they had it on the shelf today.

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Re: Coleman Dual Fuel powerhouse stove any good
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2015, 05:51:43 PM »
I really want to use the Coleman fuel, hmmmmm.

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