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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #501 on: February 03, 2019, 11:02:39 AM »
This week marks the 10 year anniversary of the Black Saturday fires, the worst natural disaster in Victoria's history.

It is a time of reflection, of that week of atrocious 40+ degree weather, and that fateful Saturday late afternoon when 173 people lost their lives. A large number of people perished in Kinglake and Marysville, both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #502 on: February 03, 2019, 11:05:00 AM »
both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

Yeah, we'll start right here.

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #503 on: February 03, 2019, 11:37:43 AM »
Thanks D4D, I read the 3 ABC articles , great reads.

I didn't live through the Victoria fires and so don't know how those who did coped then and now.
I have however  lived through and been impacted by 3 fires into the Blue Mts, with one being particularly frightening. The cost of living in an elevated position on top of a western and northern slope ( with uninterrupted views) comes with a costs. It was foremost in our mines when my wife an I were contemplating moving from the mountains to SEQ.  The stress through the unknown of whether a fire will impact you is tremendous.

The positives of this is that you also live in and unite in a community that has the local RFS/ CFA brigade as the focal point of that community  whether you are a volunteer or not. Being a volunteer is a great rewarding community experience.

It is something which I dearly miss now living in a suburb.
To those who are remembering the events of 10 years ago, I am thinking of you and hope you are ok.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #504 on: February 03, 2019, 01:30:54 PM »
Yeah, we'll start right here.

You OK?

Thanks for asking, I certainly have some thoughts and reflection this time each year. That said, I was in no way impacted the way the residents were. They still need our help and visitation. You cannot imagine what they have been through, all we can offer is a chat and to lend a hand if they need something done.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #505 on: February 04, 2019, 08:49:15 AM »
Being a volunteer is a great rewarding community experience.

It is something which I dearly miss now living in a suburb.


You can still volunteer if you want to Rags :D

Here's a couple of options, fairly close to home

http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/

https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #506 on: February 04, 2019, 10:14:43 AM »
You can still volunteer if you want to Rags :D

Here's a couple of options, fairly close to home

http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/

https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/


Thanks Fizzie, Im aware that I can still volunteer, I have thought about joining a local fire brigade but they are not in my community. I am on a community mowing and general maintainance roster organised organised through a local church.

My comment about what I miss was not about being unable to volunteer, it was about living in a suburb of a large metropolitan area as oppose to a village community.
Where I live we have either newer homes on building blocks or larger properties on small acreage. My experience is that everyone live behind closed doors and or electric gates. Once home you do not see anyone. I often joke when people ask where I live, I reply that I'm in the shack down by the river, you won't miss it, it's the only property in the district without a front fence or electric gate.

A village community is one where you know lots of people in your community, who lookout and care about each other. My old community had 5 pillars of contact, a small school, a church, a shop, a pub and the fire shed. Hang around one of these places and you will be absorbed by the community.
If I needed to bend a bit of sheet metal there was someone who had a bender in their shed that I could pop around and use, the same if you wanted to machine  up a bit of metal, borrow a dingo, get an extension ladder etc. It is through community participation that the village strives.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #507 on: February 04, 2019, 07:07:28 PM »
As an active fire fighter in the CFA l jump on the truck at what ever the hour & head off .
 This is my choice to be a Vol & active  , but that's not the only way .  You don't have to put the Wet stuff on the Hot stuff to contribute  .
There are so many ways to be involved as a Vol , all of which are of real value .

Go have a chat to the Captain on your possible roles  .  lt could be fun to get involved  :laugh: :cheers:
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #508 on: February 04, 2019, 07:17:23 PM »
This week marks the 10 year anniversary of the Black Saturday fires, the worst natural disaster in Victoria's history.

It is a time of reflection, of that week of atrocious 40+ degree weather, and that fateful Saturday late afternoon when 173 people lost their lives. A large number of people perished in Kinglake and Marysville, both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052
bit more on it
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ten-years-on-victoria-remembers-black-day-infinite-acts-of-kindness-20190204-p50vm6.html
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #509 on: February 04, 2019, 07:28:23 PM »
As an active fire fighter in the CFA l jump on the truck at what ever the hour & head off .
 This is my choice to be a Vol & active  , but that's not the only way .  You don't have to put the Wet stuff on the Hot stuff to contribute  .
There are so many ways to be involved as a Vol , all of which are of real value .

Go have a chat to the Captain on your possible roles  .  lt could be fun to get involved  :laugh: :cheers:

Speewa I am aware of what it takes to be a volunteer , I did it for 25 plus years before moving.
I haven't bothered up here because 1 there is no local brigade and 2 I don't see why I have to do training all over again to volunteer in QLD. I will happily return to help the local brigade back in the Blue Mts if and when a fire happens.
Again I was merely saying that communities usually have a local brigade, a suburb doesn't.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #510 on: February 04, 2019, 07:31:59 PM »
Quote from: rags
2 I don't see why I have to do training all over again to volunteer in QLD.
yea must admit it does take the shine off it - I was an accredited trainer with em but have to start again.  but its a small price to pay I reckon.. if I had 2 legs and was fit I'd think about it.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #512 on: February 05, 2019, 09:41:26 AM »
Thanks Fizzie, Im aware that I can still volunteer,

Sorry mate, misunderstood :-[

Agree with you entirely about not having a community in the suburbs, where no-one wants to know anyone else :'(
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #513 on: February 07, 2019, 10:05:30 AM »


Lots of reflection today on what was a tragic and devastating event in many peoples and communities lives. My thoughts are with everybody and anybody involved on that day.

There are many stories of the rebuilding of physical assets and communities to come from that day, this one resonated with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqKufUgkgY
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #516 on: February 07, 2019, 07:14:25 PM »
Thanks, that was very interesting.

A CFA view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOQ6GexX6o
I can remember taking my daughter up to Albury, on I think it was the Tuesday, to start uni and thought at the time that the firerys would have been hoping they could have got hold of it at the Hume Fwy but it had blasted straight across it like it wasnt there.
That link if Birds shows the classic Victorian bush fire, gets blown rapidly south by stinking hot northerlies then the south wester cool change comes thru and turns the whole flank into the front, seen the same thing happen at Beaconsfield on Ash Wednesday , the north east is a scary place to be when that change hits. Thank you both for posting the links, brings back a lot of not so nice memories, but we are the lucky ones, hope we don't see another like that one gor a long time

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #517 on: February 07, 2019, 07:43:36 PM »



...... the classic Victorian bush fire, gets blown rapidly south by stinking hot northerlies then the south wester cool change comes thru and turns the whole flank into the front ......
Hi,
   That is the exact scenario that happened at 4pm with the 67 bushfires in Tasmania.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #518 on: March 01, 2019, 09:12:25 PM »
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #519 on: March 02, 2019, 11:04:29 AM »
Not looking good down there
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #520 on: March 02, 2019, 11:07:10 AM »
Not looking good down there
hot and windy as Shit... :(

not good around Tynong/Noogee
3mins ago:

Emergency Warning - Bushfire
Location
   Bunyip North, Cornucopia, Garfield North, Maryknoll, Tonimbuk, Tynong North, Bunyip, Garfield, Gembrook, Gentle Annie, Labertouche, Longwarry North, Nar Nar Goon North, Tynong


    There are multiple bushfires in and around the Bunyip State Park that are out of control.
    Warm weather overnight contributed to unpredictable fire conditions causing the bushfire to spread in many directions.
    This fire is threatening homes and lives.
    There are over 25 CFA and 15 FFMV trucks working the fire 
    Aircraft are water bombing this fire througout the day

You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive.

The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately. It is too late to leave.


A relief centre is open at the Pakenham Hall, cnr John St and Henry St.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #521 on: March 02, 2019, 12:24:59 PM »
Yep, been looking at some of the feeds on facebook. 

All we can hope for is that one day the pendulum swings back to allow hazard reduction, by either burn or grazing. 
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« Reply #522 on: March 02, 2019, 12:41:31 PM »
Not looking real flash around Bunyip

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #523 on: March 02, 2019, 12:47:10 PM »
Don't know how much truth or fact is in it but if it is the case it would make you a tad annoyed. 

https://www.facebook.com/tori.meyer.9/posts/2455229701168333

"It’s very upsetting when dad gets a phone call wanting his machines to go help fight in the fires but can’t go as the greenies have tied themselves to it, have they thought about all the poor people, houses, animals or buildings that dad could potentially save! Selfish pricks."
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #524 on: March 02, 2019, 12:59:53 PM »
All the helicopters came overhead on the way back to Moorabbin last nite and were on the way back early this morning

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