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Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« on: June 25, 2011, 06:16:06 PM »
Approx 8 months ago I fitted a Tregg styled poly block Hitch that i got off Ebay to my Camper..and to be truthfull ..it works a treat..no problems with it
Approx 2 months ago I fitted electric brakes to the camper and went to get it reinspected so that its tare weight could be adjusted from 750 kg unbraked to 1200 kg braked.
AND the inspector went over it and when he came to the hitch.....I said it has a recommend weight capacity of 3 tonne
But he replied because it doesent have a Australian Standards stamp OR ADR on it..its illegal..you will have to get it removed.

BUGGER..any way going to bite the bullet and get an Oz Hitch welded to it....Should of done that in the first place.... so watch out for cheap poly block hitch's...they may work,..they may be strong but they dont meet Australian Standards
If you buy a hitch (ANY HITCH) make sure it has a ADR/Australian Standards stamped in it otherwise your insurance and licence wont cover and as such is totally illegal
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 07:16:11 PM by albany_nomads »
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 06:19:24 PM »
Thank you for the warning  :cup:
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 08:42:44 PM »
Yeah thanks, I was looking at those cheaper poly block hitches :cheers:
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 10:11:21 PM »
Good point Albany-nomads.
I recently fitted an OZ hitch (bloody good hitch by the way) and removed an old ORAC type hitch which I have had on for about 5 years. I noticed that the old one has no stamps or compliance at all, just had 3500kg.

The OZ hitch is also great because it is much lower profile and you dont kick the great big vertical pin as you step over the drawbar.  I have bolted the OZ hitch on rather than welding it.





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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 11:22:45 PM »
Thanks for that Geordie.
One question about the Oz Hitch..you can weld them though can you.
just that I was told that they are Cast Steel rather than cast iron and as such weldable..is that true
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« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 11:27:23 PM »
I have also seen pictures of the weld between the bolt that holds the receiver to the towbar tounge and the receiver itself failing on these Treg/Trigg ebay copies.  There was link to a caravaners forum where a repairer had posted the pictures up some time ago, can't find it now.
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 11:37:19 PM »
Thanks for that Geordie.
One question about the Oz Hitch..you can weld them though can you.
just that I was told that they are Cast Steel rather than cast iron and as such weldable..is that true


Yes I'm prety sure it even has "Can be welded" written on the compliance plate thing attached to the OZ hitch.  

If you want to ask the manufacturer, get onto this thread.
http://myswag.org/forum/index.php?topic=5631.0;topicseen

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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 11:44:57 PM »
I think I may have one of the cheap tregg hitches on my camper, and as far as I know this was the hitch which it originally came with and was registered with. I've never seen an Australian standards stamp on the hitch, however I've never really noticed the stamp on anyone else's hitch either.  Where should the stamp of approval be?  Does everyone else's hitch have this stamp?
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 11:55:11 PM »
I think I may have one of the cheap tregg hitches on my camper, and as far as I know this was the hitch which it originally came with and was registered with. I've never seen an Australian standards stamp on the hitch, however I've never really noticed the stamp on anyone else's hitch either.  Where should the stamp of approval be?  Does everyone else's hitch have this stamp?

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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2011, 08:59:32 AM »
Took a walk outside especially for you ;D


Hi Burnsy

I can see the Australian Design Rule (ADR) number on your hitch but cannot read what is down lower on the block, does it have anything about meeting AS 4177 - 2  ???
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2011, 09:44:18 AM »
Just had a look at mine and it has "AS4177.3  2000KG"
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2011, 09:49:22 AM »
The guys at licencing said what some of the imported campers are coming in with original poly blocks and cheap castings( the bit welded on to the trailer), so at a glance they are compliant but the casting is not compliant, if you know what I mean.
Albany Nomad I keep Oz Hitch in stock if you wanted one and yes I weld mine on.
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2011, 11:05:24 AM »
Hi Burnsy

I can see the Australian Design Rule (ADR) number on your hitch but cannot read what is down lower on the block, does it have anything about meeting AS 4177 - 2  ???
Had a look and does not have AS stamp on it anywhere I can see but Treg SA is cast or stamped on each part.
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2011, 01:06:39 PM »
Had a look and does not have AS stamp on it anywhere I can see but Treg SA is cast or stamped on each part.
Im thinking that if it shows that it meets the requirements of ADR 62/01 it may not need the AS on there also ???
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2011, 05:08:15 PM »
With the new hitches available I wonder why anyone would still choose these older style polyblock couplings? I'm not saying they're not good, or unfit for purpose, clearly they've been an excellent choice for many years, but the latest generation of couplings seem to be much easier to hitch and unhitch for example.

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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2011, 05:41:30 PM »
With the new hitches available I wonder why anyone would still choose these older style polyblock couplings?

Because they are proven, uncomplicated and cost less are just a couple of reasons that come to mind.  I also can not see what all the fuss is about hitching them up.  I have no issue with hitching mine up, sure it may take slightly longer than a drop in or on style hitch but at the end of the day I am in no hurry when hitching up.  It also does not matter what hitch you use you still have to reverse your car up to the camper and line it up ???
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2011, 05:46:33 PM »
Because they are proven, uncomplicated and cost less are just a couple of reasons that come to mind.  I also can not see what all the fuss is about hitching them up.  I have no issue with hitching mine up, sure it may take slightly longer than a drop in or on style hitch but at the end of the day I am in no hurry when hitching up.  It also does not matter what hitch you use you still have to reverse your car up to the camper and line it up ???

All good points Burnsy.

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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2011, 06:19:48 PM »
Because they are proven, uncomplicated and cost less are just a couple of reasons that come to mind.  I also can not see what all the fuss is about hitching them up.  I have no issue with hitching mine up, sure it may take slightly longer than a drop in or on style hitch but at the end of the day I am in no hurry when hitching up.  It also does not matter what hitch you use you still have to reverse your car up to the camper and line it up ???

I totally agree. Mine has done over 35 thousand k's since i bought it and it was second hand. I back up to it and the missus guides me, quite often she has the pin in it before I get out. The new wave of hitches are in response to a market, not a problem. They invent them then tell you why the one your using is so bad. Just like mobile phones, how many people are about to race out and replace their iphone 3's with the 4's because the old ones are so bad....
 Also, drop on ones like the do35 are comparatively weak up compared to down. So if you drag your drawbar allot on trails you could damage the retention mechanism.
 How may of you know of an actual hitch failure? Even a ball failure? Anyway, even if the hitch is rated to 10t its mounted on a bit of  plate that is welded to 3mm rhs quite often by some bloke in his back yard with GP rods.

 The good old poly block even insulates a little vibration between the trailer and you and you can get them in override if that’s your thing.
 So I would save your money and spend it on fuel for your next trip.
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2011, 06:28:55 PM »
Darren, didn't you have to remake your coupling, the vehicle end?

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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2011, 06:45:05 PM »
Darren, didn't you have to remake your coupling, the vehicle end?

Yes i did Jullian. I wasn't happy with the punched holes on the factory one so i manufactured one with drilled holes. Thousands of others wouldn't/or dont care. I am very fussy on such things. Then i got my car and camper airborne and crashed down hard going into palm valley and i bent the tongue, not the hitch. So when i made the new tongue i added the extra strap on the top to further strengthen it. So far no more problems
 Theres nothig wrong with the new couplings, its just theres nothing wrong with the old ones
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2011, 07:02:46 PM »
Hi Folks
Please don't get me wrong..Im not having a dig at treg or Poly block styled couplings...quite the opposite..they're strong, simple and have shock load qualities
All I'm advising is what ever you buy be Polyblock style, Orac style. Ball style, etc  make sure it has some reference to ADR or Australian Standards...otherwise I was told its illegal to have on your trailer and will fail licence inspection and wont meet 3 party insurance and private insurance requirements.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2011, 07:15:24 PM »
Thanks for the heads up

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« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2011, 06:33:23 AM »
When I purchased my camper trailer it had an ordinary ball coupling.
I had Carasel in Sydney remove the old coupling and reweld a Treg wich is stamped Treg SA.
Never had any problems with rego.
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Re: Tregg Hitch..warning before you purchase..get an original
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2011, 11:46:33 AM »
Thanks for the heads up, also.
I asked one of the more known ebay sellers if there offroad coupling was ADR compliant and they answered back very quickly, "no they are not"....

I will stick with my name brand and change to a newer style, when I need too

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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2013, 10:30:06 PM »
Thanks, i was about to buy one..
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