Well now , talking to my niece the other day about the licence system, she was rather affronted that she would be required to go through the Ls then ps rigarmarole when she finally becomes old enough to " go " for her licence , she being all of 15 ,,, she made the point that she has been driving since she was 8yrs old [ 6'2" tall at 14yrs old ] and can drive and reverse the semi with trailer , drive the tipper and dog trailer [including reversing] drive a tractor , drive a header , quad bike , motorcycle , v8 landcruiser ute and the 200series gxl ,