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Re: Remembering the liberation of Auschwitz
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2015, 04:50:04 PM »
Yeah, the grandparents of some Jewish friends of ours were, like so many others, displaced after WW2. In 1947, they were put onto ships with no knowledge of where they were going and taken to Palestine and more or less told "this is your new home". With no choice, they had to do the best they could. No good for them or the Palestinians. What a mess! Even now they are still fighting to sort it out. No wonder the grandparents moved the family here! All thanks to Hitler and his ethnic 'cleansing' and then the powers that be in the UN.

Unfortunately, some (many) lessons from history have never been learned  >:(! But that doesn't mean they should ever be forgotten!!! That's why its important to remember places like Auschwitz, those who suffered and those who did their best to do something about it.

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Re: Remembering the liberation of Auschwitz
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2015, 06:24:32 PM »
Please keep it nice, it is horrible enough.
Luckily my parents (born in 1933 and 1934) lived in rural Holland.
They were not effected like many others, but they managed to have a friendship with others from WW2 as these friends came from the big city Rotterdam ansd had to flee to the country.
Close to my parents in the Underground Village. I have been there a few times and it is amazing how people lived there in relative safety: http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.nunspeetvillage.nl/toer/9006.html&prev=search

It is translated not sure if it is correct.

Hi Wilsurf, I remember going to that forest and having a look at the Secret Village in the mid 1970's. It certainly would have been hard, but compared to the camps, it was paradise! The Dutch were very good at hiding people; by September, 1944 over 300 000 people of all sorts were in hiding, supported by some 200 000 carers.

Despite this, 105 000 Jews (75% of the Dutch Jewish population) were deported and murdered. After the first deportations, the Dutch people were so angry about it that in February, 1941, a general strike to protest the deportations was carried out by tens of thousands in all the cities. It was broken up when Nazi troops fired upon the strikers, killing many. Others were arrested and sent to the camps. Eventually, over 550 000 Dutchies would be deported, some to the camps, some as forced labour. The only other strike / protest was in Luxembourg in 1942, which also ended in bloodshed.

Unfortunately, living in a rural village was no guarantee of safety, as on 1-2 October, 1944, 602 males aged 18 -50 and numerous "oldies" (who were later let go) were taken from the village of Putten to work in Nazi factories. My great uncle was amongst them. Only 48 returned (he didn't). In addition, in the rounding up, 6 men and one women were shot and 100 houses burned down. This was reprisal for the resistance attacking a Wehrmacht (German army) car with four soldiers and killing one, on a nearby, out of town, bridge.

Not long after that, my mums village was also raided to take away 'workers'. Males of 14 and females of 15 were deemed to be old enough. My grandfather managed to escape. His neighbor didn't. The SS caught and shot him, in front of everyone.

Antisemitic, anti Asian, anti black, anti white and any other anti race behaviour should never be tolerated or promoted. It doesn't matter what race they are, if a person is a a..shole, their an a..shole, period  >:(!

Again, let us try to apply the lessons history has taught us.

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Re: Remembering the liberation of Auschwitz
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2015, 06:26:06 PM »
Please keep it nice, it is horrible enough.
Luckily my parents (born in 1933 and 1934) lived in rural Holland.
They were not effected like many others, but they managed to have a friendship with others from WW2 as these friends came from the big city Rotterdam ansd had to flee to the country.
Close to my parents in the Underground Village. I have been there a few times and it is amazing how people lived there in relative safety: http://translate.google.com.au/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://www.nunspeetvillage.nl/toer/9006.html&prev=search


Hi Wilsurf, I remember going to that forest and having a look at the Secret Village in the mid 1970's. It certainly would have been hard, but compared to the camps, it was paradise! The Dutch were very good at hiding people; by September, 1944 over 300 000 people of all sorts were in hiding, supported by some 200 000 carers.

Despite this, 105 000 Jews (75% of the Dutch Jewish population) were deported and murdered. After the first deportations, the Dutch people were so angry about it that in February, 1941, a general strike to protest the deportations was carried out by tens of thousands in all the cities. It was broken up when Nazi troops fired upon the strikers, killing many. Others were arrested and sent to the camps. Eventually, over 550 000 Dutchies would be deported, some to the camps, some as forced labour. The only other strike / protest was in Luxembourg in 1942, which also ended in bloodshed.

Unfortunately, living in a rural village was no guarantee of safety, as on 1-2 October, 1944, 602 males aged 18 -50 and numerous "oldies" (who were later let go) were taken from the village of Putten to work in Nazi factories. My great uncle was amongst them. Only 48 returned (he didn't). In addition, in the rounding up, 6 men and one women were shot and 100 houses burned down. This was reprisal for the resistance attacking a Wehrmacht (German army) car with four soldiers and killing one, on a nearby, out of town, bridge.

Not long after that, my mums village was also raided to take away 'workers'. Males of 14 and females of 15 were deemed to be old enough. My grandfather managed to escape. His neighbor didn't. The SS caught and shot him, in front of everyone.

Antisemitic, anti Asian, anti black, anti white and any other anti race behaviour should never be tolerated or promoted. It doesn't matter what race they are, if a person is a a..shole, their an a..shole, period  >:(!

Again, let us try to apply the lessons history has taught us.

 :cheers: Avo
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Re: Remembering the liberation of Auschwitz
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2015, 06:28:30 PM »
Sorry, don't know what happened with the double post  ;D  :angel:

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