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« on: April 10, 2014, 07:57:01 PM »
Unfortunately it looks like we are destined to be stuck in the 1900's whilst the rest of the world speeds ahead (NZ included)....
http://delimiter.com.au/2014/04/10/dont-know-cover-nbn-anymore/
does anybody else work in tech?



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Re: NBN
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2014, 08:22:50 PM »
Quote from: Dogsbreakfast on April 10, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Unfortunately it looks like we are destined to be stuck in the 1900's whilst the rest of the world speeds ahead (NZ included)....
http://delimiter.com.au/2014/04/10/dont-know-cover-nbn-anymore/
does anybody else work in tech?
NBN is the Dogsbreakfast.
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Re: NBN
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2014, 08:33:09 PM »
Quote from: MarkGU on April 10, 2014, 08:22:50 PM
NBN is the Dogsbreakfast.

Aint that the truth. Even worse now. They should totally abandon it and let industry supply it.
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Re: NBN
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2014, 10:25:17 PM »
NBN was destined to fail from the start
 
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2014, 10:27:19 PM »
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Re: NBN
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2014, 11:41:33 PM »
My brother has just gotten an NBN connection. He's paying $60 a month for a 25megabit connection with 50gb data. My wife has a business about 2km down the road and pays $50 a month for an adsl 2 connection giving her 16megabit download speed and unlimited data. Remind me why the government has paid so much money for this?

On top of that, each installer pays the government for the rights to do installations in an area. Which means you don't have any choice about who does the work. My brother ended up with some knucklehead who cut holes in his walls before realising that they were in the wrong places. Nevermind, he says, i'll just stick another power point in there. Comes back later to do the work but realises he doesn't actually have the right parts to do the connections. Comes back in another week and sets it up, but not correctly. We had to go through the manual to discover the router wasn't connected to the network cables.

With quality workmanship like that, it makes me wonder if the government is screwing up the NBN rollout like the insulation scheme.

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Re: NBN
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2014, 07:10:44 PM »
Quote from: mickmac42 on April 10, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
Remind me why the government has paid so much money for this?
Mike

Because politicians are dickheads and big business pulls the strings.
They have no idea they are doing., unless it is to get re-elected.
The last government was told it was a sham, but the dumb arsed pollies believed otherwise, So go figure.
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Re: NBN
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2014, 08:22:02 PM »
Quote from: mickmac42 on April 10, 2014, 11:41:33 PM
My brother has just gotten an NBN connection. He's paying $60 a month for a 25megabit connection with 50gb data. My wife has a business about 2km down the road and pays $50 a month for an adsl 2 connection giving her 16megabit download speed and unlimited data. Remind me why the government has paid so much money for this?
Mike
That is Great that your wife has such good speeds at such a reasonable cost. If ADSL 2 was available for everyone I'm sure the NBN would be a waste of money, However many people do not have access to the service your wife has. I'm pretty sure further than 5 km from an exchange and speed/quality drops off. Limited capacity for connections (My sis is rural in Vic, and has been waiting for 2 years for a 'space' on the local exchange). If you have crap wire either to your premisses, or in the house its self it can affect the quality and speed, and arguing with the service provider/telstra/landlord to get it assessed and sorted can go around and around, every one blaming each other.

I've lived around country Victoria before moving to the NT about 6 years ago, I think 8 places where I have had varying levels of internet available to me, ADSL, ADSL2, Satellite and 3G at different places. As you would expect varying costs and quality/ speeds.
I'm a fan of the NBN as it will provide a base line of service for most people. I think that we should view internet access more like we do utilities (power, gas, water), and less like TV service.
Its no good you had a nuffy doing the install, but that has more to do to the tradesman, his background, knowledge and training. I think the NBN its self is a great concept, and Im mighty disappointed that its having the guts ripped out of it. Here in Central Aus Im sure we will miss out with NBN mark II what ever it looks like.
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Re: NBN
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2014, 10:57:37 PM »
You don't need to tell me about the dramas of having crap wire to your house. Our house is 200m back from the road, and the power and phone lines come in via a series of poles. When we bought the house we tried to get the phone line working. Turns out the cover of a plastic junction box had come off and the wires had corroded. Telstra came out and said that they wouldn't fix it because it was on a pole that was not serviced by them, and there was no service record, so OHS prevented them from working on the pole. They wouldn't even put a cherry picker next to it. They also wouldn't let anyone else work on it. Their solution was to run a new phone line underground (200m through bush and rock and across a creek). We've been on wifi and mobiles ever since.

I agree wholeheartedly with the concept of the NBN. I think it would be great to have high speed internet nation wide. I sympathise with rural folk who have limited or no access. It goes to further my point though, that while my wife has perfectly good adsl connection, the government has decided this is a good area to upgrade to NBN. I suspect the reason they're doing this is so the government look like they're doing well with their rollout by saying they have x% of the population covered.

Our government seems to excel at going overseas to see what other countries do, then come back here and do a bastardised version that costs more and does less.

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