I wish I'd never seen it!

[kiwi_camper]

Tonight, while my two kids were eating dinner, I decided to go onto Facebook to catch up with some friends. While I was there, I decided to join Myswag and a few innocent clicks later I was watching the most disturbing video footage of an 18 year old Malaysian mother, beating her 10 month old daughter. After watching the beatings, I was thoroughly sickened and crying. The comments made by people were equally disturbing, with most people recommending violence toward the mother. I certainly don't condone violence in any circumstances, especially toward those weaker than me but I couldn't help wondering if the mother had had the same thing done to her as a baby and young child. I felt incredibly saddened that there are so many people out there, desperate to love a child like this, including me and that her young life had been filled with such pain and fear. I know that this kind of abuse is a reality for far too many children in this world and that you can't just bury your head in the sand but I really wish I'd never seen it...........

[scarps]

Damn kiwi camper, that's terrible.

What thread on myswag did you click on?


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[kiwi_camper]

I joined Myswag on FB but went into a members FB page to see if you could automatically access other people's FB pages, as I would like mine to remain private. This member had a link to this video and of course the rest is history. Totally my fault, as I didn't have to click onto it.......curiosity and all that. It is a timely reminder to love your children as much as you can! I just wish it was easy to erase the things you see!

[Socks]

I joined Myswag on FB but went into a members FB page to see if you could automatically access other people's FB pages, as I would like mine to remain private.

That all depends on your own settings on FB, so if you ave your page set to private then joining myswag wont change that.

Sorry to hear you saw so etching awful
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[briann532]

Some serious myswag therapy called for here.................

To be perfectly honest the reason I love myswag (except for anything to do with dc:dc chargers or 6 B&S) is because it allows me to relate to what I love best.

Escaping to the bush.........
It brings me down to earth and allows me to appreciate life.

Big group hug to all myswaggers ....................
Now go burn a tree to pay your carbon tax.
( disturbing what you saw, and I hope you manage to "unsee" it in the near future.......

Brian

[Symon]

There is a report feature on Facebook where you can ask to have offending links removed...

[Nay-DMAX]

That is one thing I try to avoid on facebook and do not click on the videos that are on there some of them say your friends shared them when in fact they did not and others for what ever reason people do share them.  Sorry you had to see one of those.  I think if you log out of your facebook and then do a search of yourself online it will let you click your profile whilst being logged out to see what others see not sure if this is correct so if I am wrong sorry.  Agree totally no child deserves to be treated that way.

[MarkGU]

There is a report feature on Facebook where you can ask to have offending links removed...

symon......i reported a pic of a deceased baby that was pictured a month or so go. asked FaceBook to remove it as some parents who have lost a little one would be able to see it. they replied back and told me it didnt violate any of their terms. i told them they are f***wits.

[oldmate]

Just another reason I am glad I have never or never will be on Facebook.

[Steffo1]

^^^^^^^ X2

[Malcolm Tugless]

Four minutes is a long time to watch a disturbing image, push a button, turn it off.

I refuse to worship at the feet of the deranged god of face ... although I can understand other peoples fascination with this soul consuming  beast.
But the twit that twitters takes stupid one step further and into the realms of ridiculousness ... self centric sods fawning for followers to befriend in an imaginary world of social intercourse built without substance. Mundane at best, yet often dangerous and devastating. Abusive tirades and bullying punctuating the endless flow of irrelevant twaddle.

This joints a big enough time waster as it is ... pleasantly so, mostly always.

[GU_Thomo]

You do not have to be on Facebook to be confronted by appalling violence to children.
Sadly it is a daily occurrence in a lot of Australian homes, institutions, churches etc.

Cheers
Parry

[Tjupurula]

Hi Swaggers
As a person who is completely against violence of any form, I am now so glad that I have filters on the famil laptop, and have parental locks (I think that is what they are) where a password is required before anything, even emails, can be viewed.  In my books, and I do not care who calls me a male chauvinist, we males are here to protect and nuture children, women and those that cannot defend themselves.
What I fail to understand, and this is not being judgemental on anyone, but if one sees such aggression on a screen, why would you keep watching.
I have heard of facebook, and from what I have been told, I would not even consider geting onto such aa site.  When I was in hospital, a young fellow was forever on his phone typing, when I made an enquiry, he told me he was on facebook with his best friend.  I jokingly responded about how close they mst be, and he told me he had never met her.  I thought to myself how can you have a best friend without meeting them and knowing them.  I really hold so much pity for people that have such a social life that they consider someone who they know nothing about as a close friend.
Regards
Tjupurula

[elle.mac]

Iv reported a few things in the past 12months but Facebook has done nothing, however a person had her account blocked for a day as a pic (absolutely nothing wrong with it as it was a photo of a page in a car restraint advising a safety thing) - the person that reported her used "risk of self harm" and "terrorism" to get it removed.  So looks like that is what one needs to press to get anything removed from Facebook

[Malcolm Tugless]

Hi Swaggers

What I fail to understand, and this is not being judgemental on anyone, but if one sees such aggression on a screen, why would you keep watching.
I have heard of facebook, and from what I have been told, I would not even consider geting onto such aa site.  When I was in hospital, a young fellow was forever on his phone typing, when I made an enquiry, he told me he was on facebook with his best friend.  I jokingly responded about how close they mst be, and he told me he had never met her.  I thought to myself how can you have a best friend without meeting them and knowing them.  I really hold so much pity for people that have such a social life that they consider someone who they know nothing about as a close friend.
Regards
Tjupurula

You got big fella.

And as for space book removing offending material ... I think their tree is only shaken when the specter of litigation appears, rather than any desire to perform an act of public duty, due diligence or empathy.

[kiwi_camper]

Hi Swaggers
As a person who is completely against violence of any form, I am now so glad that I have filters on the famil laptop, and have parental locks (I think that is what they are) where a password is required before anything, even emails, can be viewed.  In my books, and I do not care who calls me a male chauvinist, we males are here to protect and nuture children, women and those that cannot defend themselves.
What I fail to understand, and this is not being judgemental on anyone, but if one sees such aggression on a screen, why would you keep watching.
I have heard of facebook, and from what I have been told, I would not even consider geting onto such aa site.  When I was in hospital, a young fellow was forever on his phone typing, when I made an enquiry, he told me he was on facebook with his best friend.  I jokingly responded about how close they mst be, and he told me he had never met her.  I thought to myself how can you have a best friend without meeting them and knowing them.  I really hold so much pity for people that have such a social life that they consider someone who they know nothing about as a close friend.
Regards
Tjupurula

I guess it depends on how/why you use FB. For myself and my family it is a way of keeping in touch with family and friends in NZ. We have a privacy setting so only those specific people have access to our page but the reality is that whatever you do on the internet can be accessed and used by other people. Social media is a big part of many peoples lives but like anything in life moderation and common sense is the key.

[jetcrew]

I see both sides here, social media has become part of lives ..but so has niaivitey .

Kids are bashed, sexually assaulted , die of starvation and generally treated with such dis-regard that it leaves me with little choice but to believe that the human race is an endangered species.

Most species on earth work together or as individuals to guarantee the survival of their young , we on the other hand ... Seem to be making an art form out of abusing ours.

It has happened and will continue to happen the fact you saw it does not matter.. It happened.

When people say "I wish I never saw it" I always respond with "do you mean you wish it never happened" ...big difference.

Good on you for mentioning it ,but all we can do as decent people is to care for and love the children we have and accept that other children won,t have the same  life as the one we give our kids.

If anything viewing such abuse brings it out of the shadows , just this week we had issues with our youngest not wanting to eat certain dinner items . I was able to use social media and tech  to show him exactly what starving kids look like and how they live each day.

Not to make him feel guilty , but to make him appreciate the life we have. I cannot save every child or person. But I do honour their suffering by not pretending it does not exist.

Maybe try to contextualise it like this, witnessing these thing is hard , but being the victim is even harder.

Kind regards

Jet

[kiwi_camper]

I see both sides here, social media has become part of lives ..but so has niaivitey .

Kids are bashed, sexually assaulted , die of starvation and generally treated with such dis-regard that it leaves me with little choice but to believe that the human race is an endangered species.

Most species on earth work together or as individuals to guarantee the survival of their young , we on the other hand ... Seem to be making an art form out of abusing ours.

It has happened and will continue to happen the fact you saw it does not matter.. It happened.

When people say "I wish I never saw it" I always respond with "do you mean you wish it never happened" ...big difference.

Good on you for mentioning it ,but all we can do as decent people is to care for and love the children we have and accept that other children won,t have the same  life as the one we give our kids.

If anything viewing such abuse brings it out of the shadows , just this week we had issues with our youngest not wanting to eat certain dinner items . I was able to use social media and tech  to show him exactly what starving kids look like and how they live each day.

Not to make him feel guilty , but to make him appreciate the life we have. I cannot save every child or person. But I do honour their suffering by not pretending it does not exist.

Maybe try to contextualise it like this, witnessing these thing is hard , but being the victim is even harder.

Kind regards

Jet

I know this happens to children every day. In fact my brother was sexual abused by a trusted person at his secondary school, when he was just 13. The effect it had on him and our family has had far reaching effects to this day. It may be naive to wish this hadn't happened but it did. If anything it has made me more careful and protective of my own children. I don't need to be exposed to violence to know it's out there.   

[Tjupurula]

I guess it depends on how/why you use FB. For myself and my family it is a way of keeping in touch with family and friends in NZ. We have a privacy setting so only those specific people have access to our page but the reality is that whatever you do on the internet can be accessed and used by other people. Social media is a big part of many peoples lives but like anything in life moderation and common sense is the key.

Hi Kiwi Camper
Please do not feel I am being, in any way, judgemental.  I am not.  I did say I pity peple referring to people they have NEVER met as a good friend.  You need to maintain contact with your family, and as Facebook works for you, well and good.  That is extremely different from developing a life surrounded by people that one knows nothing about.  MySwag is the only site that I access, I do not know many people on here personally, but I have spoken with several, and met a couple, and generally found them to be ultra nice people.
At the same time one member messaged me some time ago, advising me that he would prefer I did not respond in his threads, or communicate with him, and that is totally his right, if someone dislikes me because of who, what or how I am, then that is their issue, and I will respect their right to their opinion.  This person did not get nasty or abusive, just stated things as he sees them.  As you say, modration and common sense (which is not so common) is the key.
Regards
Tjupurula

[kiwi_camper]

Hi Kiwi Camper
Please do not feel I am being, in any way, judgemental.  I am not.  I did say I pity peple referring to people they have NEVER met as a good friend.  You need to maintain contact with your family, and as Facebook works for you, well and good.  That is extremely different from developing a life surrounded by people that one knows nothing about.  MySwag is the only site that I access, I do not know many people on here personally, but I have spoken with several, and met a couple, and generally found them to be ultra nice people.
At the same time one member messaged me some time ago, advising me that he would prefer I did not respond in his threads, or communicate with him, and that is totally his right, if someone dislikes me because of who, what or how I am, then that is their issue, and I will respect their right to their opinion.  This person did not get nasty or abusive, just stated things as he sees them.  As you say, modration and common sense (which is not so common) is the key.
Regards
Tjupurula

 

[cruisindub]

On the news today, about to make it illegal to smack your child.
Wow, that no doubt opens a can of worms, how much discipline is discipline and whats abuse?
Fine line there and broad definition of a 'smack'.

Not being a father, yet,..... speaking hypothetically,
would I discipline my child, well yes of course I would. Would I smack my child, probably not,
Educate and enrich my child, of course.
I copped an ass wallop as a child, when stepping out of line in a large way and I will probably do the same, though I hope my child never does half the stuff that we got caught doing.
   
If I saw a child being abused, then I'll probably open a can of whoop ass on the pr1ck, but discipline sure is a fine line.

Its pretty bloody scary and down right frightening thinking about soon becoming a father and parent.

help......?

[Tjupurula]

Hi Cruisindub
Mate, there is a massive difference between child abuse and parental discipline.  Did I smack my children when they did something really bad, you better believe I did, would I do it these days, yes, without a doubt.
Half the kids in Mulan were almost out of control, as their mothers and fathers would never punish them, as a senior law man (tribal law), I recently stepped in and informed the parents that if their children kept up some of the rubbish they were doing, I would be punishing some of the parents, and things have dramatically changed.  A quick smack on the butt, or back of the legs, does no harm, and makes damned sure the youngster never forgets.
I would be ringing the various welfare agencies when teh child misbehaves (if I didn't feel safe smacking children) and requesting their attendance because I am not able to control the children, and do not wish to break the law, therefore I am requesting their presence to come and control the child.  These so called authorities would soon get sick of attending matters where a quick bit of parental discipline could have solved a situation.
If these authorities want to set the standards, then why shouldn't society demand these same authorities lead by example.
Regards
Tjupurula

[Kit_e_kat9]

I found this on FB tonight and I think it's the best portrayal of a family vacation I've seen in ages ... and it's got a catchy tune!

Kit_e

http://vimeo.com/user9895612/foxslanevantastic

[Nomad]

Pretty vid Kite.

I have always admired people who can camp pretty.

I have two kids, boy,6, and girl about to turn 8. I have smacked them in the past, but very very rarely never now. They are great kids, respectful, friendly etc and I can't be happier with them.

I have found that making sure I am giving them plenty of attention and hugs work much better for me.

That said if they are being sh!tes I only have to give them the look and they will pull their heads in real fast.

Cheers Nomad.