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2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« on: March 01, 2019, 10:18:47 AM »
Just checking if anyone out there that has a 200 series with dpf has black soot blowing out the exhaust onto what you are towing. Toyota are telling me this is normal if this has happened to you and you have had it fixed could you let me know pm if you want. Car has no engine or exhaust mods done 12000km towing 3.3 tone van.


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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2019, 10:22:28 AM »
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2019, 10:36:13 AM »
Check out Berrima diesel I think they had a video about this topic.
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2019, 10:37:39 AM »
All diesels will blow some soot under load especially if it is a sudden load like hard acceleration

Prado used to put a bit of soot on the drawbar of the camper and the Dmax does the same thing
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2019, 10:38:48 AM »
There is a topic on this on LCOOL at the moment

Quote from thread, http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47171&start=30&sid=89515a8c4929a2d6adab9f6a14e78917

Gday guys, I have just had all injectors and both DPF’s replaced under warranty at 39000 kilometres. Only real symptom was a sooty exhaust but I was told not to settle until it was clean. It now runs very clean with no noticeable soot at all. Originally the service bloke told me that I had to expect a sooty pipe on a deisel but I let them know I wouldn’t be satisfied until it was clean. I am now satisfied. August 2016 VX

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2019, 10:48:36 AM »
Check out Berrima diesel I think they had a video about this topic.
thanks will check it out
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2019, 10:49:45 AM »
All diesels will blow some soot under load especially if it is a sudden load like hard acceleration

Prado used to put a bit of soot on the drawbar of the camper and the Dmax does the same thing
this was after 130ks I would expect a bit but not this much
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2019, 10:50:49 AM »
There is a topic on this on LCOOL at the moment

Quote from thread, http://www.lcool.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=47171&start=30&sid=89515a8c4929a2d6adab9f6a14e78917

Gday guys, I have just had all injectors and both DPF’s replaced under warranty at 39000 kilometres. Only real symptom was a sooty exhaust but I was told not to settle until it was clean. It now runs very clean with no noticeable soot at all. Originally the service bloke told me that I had to expect a sooty pipe on a deisel but I let them know I wouldn’t be satisfied until it was clean. I am now satisfied. August 2016 VX

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2019, 07:59:19 PM »
Mate has a 2016 Cruzer and is getting all injectors and both dpf replaced under warranty, only done 50k but has been sooty from around 5k. Don’t let them fob you off, get it fixed
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2019, 10:06:26 PM »
Two members have posted that the 200 has two DPFs.  Why two?  Curious.

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2019, 04:42:23 AM »
Two members have posted that the 200 has two DPFs.  Why two?  Curious.

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One for each bank perhaps?
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2019, 05:59:59 AM »
Definitely not normal. The pre-dpf 'cruisers, like all pre-dpf diesels blow smoke when under load. The dpf's are there to remove this, and they do (should) work on the 'cruiser. I have an MY16 'cruiser, which is the first year with the dpf, and mine doesn't blow smoke regardless of how hard it's worked, and that includes when towing our 3T van.

Toyota had an issue with the injectors in some earlier MY16 models and this was one of the symptoms. They were aware of this as they were apparently doing some tests to them at the dealer pre-delivery and changing over the injectors before owners even got the vehicle. There were then reports of some owners still having issues and a few have had injectors (and in some cases dpf's) replaced later under warranty, but that was supposed to have been sorted. I'd be chasing the dealer, or worst case finding another one, and getting this looked at as it shouldn't happen. The exhaust should be almost clean (probably a slight grey residue but certainly not black soot) and it definitely shouldn't be leaving soot deposits on the back bumper.
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2019, 06:16:10 AM »
One for each bank perhaps?

That was my original guess but was looking for clarification.  Two DPFs seem an over-complication just because it is a V8.  Most other vehicles put one DPF further downstream.

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2019, 09:19:00 AM »
I see quite a few dpf diesels, and every single one has soot coming out at some stage or another.

It's one of the primary by-products of burning diesel.  My Amarok rear axle is black, from the exhaust dumping just in front of it.

Seen Rangers, Golf's, Land Rovers all with similar traits, so figure it's acceptable.

Stands to reason for me that if you're burning soot during a DPF regeneration that it has to go somewhere...

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2019, 10:35:11 AM »
One for each bank perhaps?
That and because the 200 is a twin turbo.  Plus under body repackaging, to keep the dpf closer to the turbo for exhaust temps.

I believe the single turbo 79 series runs a single dpf.

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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2019, 05:32:46 PM »
Do get it looked at by a different dealer if the current one won't do anything.  My 2016 200 series had a lot of crap on the rear bumper and trailer, after reporting it a few times to the dealer they did some tests and replaced the DPF's and 10 injectors under warranty, the car had 50,000 km on it and drove fine, the tail pipe no longer has any black residue.  This is not an expense I'd like to be covering out of warranty.
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Re: 2018 land cruiser 200 series diesel blowing soot
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2019, 07:11:30 PM »
Dealer has been good Toyota are saying nothing wrong. Going to take it for another run later this month and then take the van in to show them.

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