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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #50 on: February 06, 2019, 01:16:07 PM »
I see you have asked the experts in ExplorOz.  Interesting to see replies there and how they differ to here.  But sometimes the more you ask the more confusing you will get.  Have fun.  Kevin

Hi,

I asked on the travelling with kids facebook page and got mixed responses as well, but not on explorOz, is there a link to that thread? It has actually been my wife who has calmed me down and said let's get this van even without the onboard amenities. I will fit a grey water tank anyway and will be able to catch the sink water, but really we are quite experienced campers and the shower and toilet thing has never been an issue anyway.

Thanks for the advice regarding the toilet inside, I think getting a small portaloo for in the van at night will be a must! I certainly value everyone's opinions and can see all point of views. I believe this van will work well for us and should give us many geat adventures. 

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #51 on: February 06, 2019, 01:35:57 PM »
I will fit a grey water tank anyway and will be able to catch the sink water, but really we are quite experienced campers and the shower and toilet thing has never been an issue anyway.



Dont worry about a grey water tank for just a sink.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #52 on: February 06, 2019, 01:44:51 PM »
Dont worry about a grey water tank for just a sink.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #53 on: February 06, 2019, 01:56:48 PM »
Dont worry about a grey water tank for just a sink.

Totally agree. Hate to think about it if every camper trailer had to have a grey water tank and had to collect shower water as well.  :'(

The whole grey water debate is crazy.  OK in New Zealand who have restrictions, but that is a totally different country, so different to our great and very large country.  But I suppose there are travellers who stick to populated areas and those of us who prefer the big wide open spaces.  But remember, grey water that has been contained for over 24 hrs must be treated as black water. So you can only dump it in waste disposal dump points. But the old grey water debate has been done to death over the years.  Just saddens me that it will happen one day.  Kevin
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #54 on: February 06, 2019, 03:17:26 PM »
I believe this van will work well for us and should give us many geat adventures.

& that's the most important thing! :cup:
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #55 on: February 06, 2019, 05:22:51 PM »
I believe this van will work well for us and should give us many great adventures.

and thats the clincher.............

If you and yours believe it is what you want, then you certainly don't need anyone else's stamp of approval. Good move to seek opinion and feedback, but ultimately the decision should be whatever you believe will best suit your circumstances.

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2019, 05:39:42 PM »
and thats the clincher.............

If you and yours believe it is what you want, then you certainly don't need anyone else's stamp of approval. Good move to seek opinion and feedback, but ultimately the decision should be whatever you believe will best suit your circumstances.

Exactly, before this thread, I was not aware a few things and there's been some good ideas so for that I am thankful!

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« Reply #57 on: February 07, 2019, 07:39:15 AM »
agree.

I actually dont know where this grey water collection thing came from, i have not been to a national park on the west coast yet where it was enforced let alone mentioned by caretakes / rangers
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #58 on: February 07, 2019, 08:08:50 AM »
Even in the few places Ive ever been to where it was compulsory, no one has ever checked.

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #59 on: February 07, 2019, 08:11:35 AM »
I actually dont know where this grey water collection thing came from, i have not been to a national park on the west coast yet where it was enforced let alone mentioned by caretakes / rangers
X2. No denying though that it is getting more airtime nowadays and more and more people are reporting having to collect. God knows why however I would say it has something to do with (as it always does) people making a mess of areas by not moving their hoses, letting it go through other camp sites, discharging into waterways etc etc.

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2019, 08:30:51 AM »
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    It may be that the big rigs with washing machines would cause a mess on hard stand.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2019, 08:38:37 AM »
I guess if you have 2 showers, a couple of loads of washing and 3 or more sinks of water you are talking about an entirely different issue to what used to be normal.

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2019, 12:55:05 PM »
I guess if you have 2 showers, a couple of loads of washing and 3 or more sinks of water you are talking about an entirely different issue to what used to be normal.

Imagine the size tank needed to carry all that!

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2019, 01:13:36 PM »
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    I guess some think that plugged into mains power, water and sullage is camping with convenience.
If it keeps them out of the bush I'm happy.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2019, 02:10:31 PM »
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    I guess some think that plugged into mains power, water and sullage is camping with convenience.
If it keeps them out of the bush I'm happy.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2019, 02:20:14 PM »
In all my trips all over Australia the only place that asked that we collect any greywater was at Elquestro in the Kimberley. We only had a camp kitchen with a sink and had a bucket for the hose. It was not really policed.

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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2019, 03:08:34 PM »
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   Fresh grey water on a deserving bush seems the best of both worlds.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2019, 06:03:35 PM »
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   Fresh grey water on a deserving bush seems the best of both worlds.
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it's what we have always done...collect in a bucket and empty on base of nearby trees or shrubs.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2019, 12:59:47 PM »
it's what we have always done...collect in a bucket and empty on base of nearby trees or shrubs.

But you've collected it first, rather than just letting it run out on the ground, so that makes it OK! ::)
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« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2019, 01:51:33 PM »
But you've collected it first, rather than just letting it run out on the ground, so that makes it OK! ::)
I have no issue collecting some washing up water and putting it on the plants, if you have an issue with that then I guess that's your problem.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2019, 04:46:37 PM »
it's what we have always done...collect in a bucket and empty on base of nearby trees or shrubs.
yep, hose into bucket from sink, and empty it straight away, no waiting around.
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2019, 05:59:44 PM »
Lucky    ,    Lucky    thirsty trees/shrubs  . Waiting for more Swaggers to help them grow  .
 Sadly those trees/shrubs  can sit & watch as swaggers drive away venting Grey water tanks down the road . ln 5KM its safe to pass them as the tank is empty  .                        :cheers:
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2019, 07:02:32 PM »
All the hoo Har about grey water must come from people who have never had a grey water system on their house.
We have never been on a sewerage system ànd have always pumped our grey water around the lawn and gardens.
With only 2 of us home now our sullage pump sometimes only kicks in once a week when my wife does the washing and the sullage tànk holds 1000 lts.
That's all that has kept the gardens going the past few years.
On the farm all our waste water ran into the side paddock and it the greenest patch around.
I agree with not creating a swamp at camp but a bucket full on a thirsty tree can only bee good
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Re: Advice on caravan ensuite vs external only shower
« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2019, 07:14:04 PM »
yep, hose into bucket from sink, and empty it straight away, no waiting around.

From my outside kitchen all the sink water goes straight on the ground.....even 2 or 3 peas.....and if a total of 4 ltrs over a long weekend is going to harm a campground, then I need banning !!

I reckon twice that comes out of me behind the nearest tree after a night drinking beer !!   :cheers:
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