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Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« on: December 04, 2018, 06:26:31 PM »
Saw this on the news today.
FFS, think about how you carry gas bottles  :'(

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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2018, 06:50:25 PM »
Posted this on one of the facebook pages about the Bypass of Coffs.  With every excuse they have about why for tunnels the big down play of Dangerous Goods.  They didn't like it. 
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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2018, 08:15:51 PM »
 Brings back a horrific memory for me. I lost a mate and plumbing partner in 1997 to a gas explosion.
He drove a Hi ace van with a sealed cargo area. Had filled up the small LPG the evening before, it obviously leaked over night and on him opening the drivers door the next morning blew him into the next world.
I attended the scene and the memory of the damage to properties in the surrounding area was like a war setting and something that is etched into me.

I note that the fire officer in the 7news clip suggest/ carrying LPG in the small confines of a boot.
Not sure a leaking cylinder in the boot is a great place, small area less chance of smelling leak, small contained area perfect environment to explode.


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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2018, 09:59:57 PM »
Brings back a horrific memory for me. I lost a mate and plumbing partner in 1997 to a gas explosion.
He drove a Hi ace van with a sealed cargo area. Had filled up the small LPG the evening before, it obviously leaked over night and on him opening the drivers door the next morning blew him into the next world.
I attended the scene and the memory of the damage to properties in the surrounding area was like a war setting and something that is etched into me.

I note that the fire officer in the 7news clip suggest/ carrying LPG in the small confines of a boot.
Not sure a leaking cylinder in the boot is a great place, small area less chance of smelling leak, small contained area perfect environment to explode.

Totally agree with you.  Also the smaller the cubic area, the quicker it will get to explosive potential.
Best idea was expressed by another fire officer on T.V.
Only load the bottles after making sure the taps are securely shut. 
Then travel with windows open so the vehicle is well ventilated.
Don't leave the bottles in a vehicle overnight for any reason.

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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2018, 07:33:18 AM »
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I note that the fire officer in the 7news clip suggest/ carrying LPG in the small confines of a boot.
Not sure a leaking cylinder in the boot is a great place, small area less chance of smelling leak, small contained area perfect environment to explode.
yea I was listening to the firey bloke when he mentioned most people have dual cabs and store in the back...  its still a sealed area. :( Roofrack in an old milk crate sounds good to me.

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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2018, 08:10:09 AM »
I lost a mate

Sorry to hear that Rags.

I've seen mention of that incident (or another the same) & yes, it's a mess
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Re: Holy ******** hell. Be careful with gas bottles !!!
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2018, 10:03:07 AM »
Also the smaller the cubic area, the quicker it will get to explosive potential.

It will achieve the Stoichiometric ratio of 15.5:1 quickly, but will also exceed it quickly. Once you get past the optimum concentration it won't explode as there isn't enough oxygen in the mix, but it will burn around the edges. If it does explode, then the smaller volume will do less damage and it will probably be contained by the vehicle structure.

Personally, I wouldn't be keen on opening the boot though. A poor connection to the boot light might be enough to ignite it as all the air rushes in as the lid opens and your face would be right in the fire ball.

Plumbers vans seem to be over represented in gas accidents, if you are lucky its using the central locking, unfortunately more than a few are from opening the side door.