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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #75 on: October 03, 2017, 11:08:36 PM »
Going by the antics on the site today, Rain made no difference except for people getting wet while trying to dig trucks etc out . They still got bogged .
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #76 on: October 04, 2017, 07:44:53 AM »
I’m enjoying watching all these idiots getting bogged, but have to admit driving through it myself the other week and having a large audience ready to ridicule if you stuff up does add extra pressure. 

So I’m assuming when some of these people are getting bogged, the large crowds giving their opinions and the line of 4WD’s behind them are making them panic. This inturn make them cut corners/make silly decisions in there panicked state.

So agree it won’t be long before someone is seriously hurt or killed.  Guarantee it won’t be long before the National Parks lay timber tracks like they do on Fraser.  That won’t fix the problem, but rather transfer the problem to Fraser.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #77 on: October 04, 2017, 09:00:13 AM »
All the timber / rubber tracking will do is push the trouble spot out further .. Only got to see the big holes and step ups dug as you get to the tracking on the Teewah 3rd cutting / Lieshia track entrance and the ones on the Fraser bypass tracks ..
At Inskip there used to be a water truck do a run from the exit point to the barge in peak times to keep the out and in tracks wet [ think it was supplied by the MANTA RAY ]  Must have got too expensive for them to operate  ..
Since someone on Swag posted about electric brake controllers activating trailer brakes  on sand, I have noticed  that on "  SOME " of  the trailer / caravans, the  wheels seem to be being dragged as if the brakes are partialy on and causing the tug to bog.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #78 on: October 04, 2017, 09:32:50 PM »
All the timber / rubber tracking will do is push the trouble spot out further .. Only got to see the big holes and step ups dug as you get to the tracking on the Teewah 3rd cutting / Lieshia track entrance and the ones on the Fraser bypass tracks ..
At Inskip there used to be a water truck do a run from the exit point to the barge in peak times to keep the out and in tracks wet [ think it was supplied by the MANTA RAY ]  Must have got too expensive for them to operate  ..
Since someone on Swag posted about electric brake controllers activating trailer brakes  on sand, I have noticed  that on "  SOME " of  the trailer / caravans, the  wheels seem to be being dragged as if the brakes are partialy on and causing the tug to bog.

Or are the brakes on/dragging because people don't realise they need to turn off their traction control (which activates the brakes) ?

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #79 on: October 05, 2017, 08:12:04 AM »
I'm no expert, but guarantee it's all a result of the Traction control being left on. 

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #80 on: October 05, 2017, 08:16:43 AM »
I'm no expert, but guarantee it's all a result of the Traction control being left on.

Definitely a large number would not even know they need to disable it.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #81 on: October 05, 2017, 10:31:10 AM »
Should be the new sign at the beach exit  ;D
Fixed GBC.   ;D
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #82 on: October 05, 2017, 01:04:46 PM »
You don't need momentum when you have correct air pressure.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #83 on: October 05, 2017, 02:28:20 PM »
Problem is everyone’s definition of Airing down is different. For example the other week at Fraser I came 2 separate bogged 4WDs blocking the track. So had no choice but to help.

First question I ask is what’s your tyre pressure. First said 25 and second said 22. Told them the first then they need to do is drop to at least 18 or lower and like expected they get all smart A@se with me and say that’s the pressure they normally run and they have never had a problem before. 

I then remind them I’m currently running 15/16 and your bogged and I’m not.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #84 on: October 05, 2017, 04:28:15 PM »
I then remind them I’m currently running 15/16 and your bogged and I’m not.

You don't use magic to disappear, all you need is a 4wd & a Swag ;)


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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #85 on: October 05, 2017, 07:57:37 PM »
Should be the new sign at the beach exit  ;D
Fixed GBC.   ;D

Yeah but it needs to be about 500m back up the road where the airing down spot is so the wombats don't hold everybody else up. Last trip up we had to drive through a maze of vehicles who decided to air down at the start of the cutting on to the beach.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #86 on: October 07, 2017, 06:07:47 AM »
It amusing me how all these people get stuck yet a 20 truck can get down there with no problem, saw a fella there last Monday arvo when going across on last barge he didnt make it 20
metres from the tar, big cruiser and big van ( not off Roader) buy the look of it. We cross with 4 adults in vehicle loaded in rear plus box trailer in herendous conditions, it took 4 hours from Inskip point to Happy Valley having to use a mix of inland and beach, both have which were fairly chopped up, Thank christ my brother knows the island extremely well.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #87 on: October 07, 2017, 07:11:20 AM »
Hey guys. I also love that Facebook site. I find it can get a little cruel at times, but I suppose when you see the same thing over and over for the same reason you would get over feeling sorry for people.

I have a question, what sort of trailer weight are people willing to put over the beach.  And what pressures do you drop the trailer to.


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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #88 on: October 07, 2017, 07:44:41 AM »
Hi Ben, I have towed my 8,2m boat it sat on a triaxle trailer with skinny Holden wheels it weighted 4 ton loaded we let the tires down to 13psi we had no troubles on the way up to the Fraser fishing comp and at the comp, launching the boat we had no troubles and getting back up to the houses no worries, But did get bogged on the way home behind Indian Head as it was dug up, After a week of the comp, but we hooked two more 4wds on the front of my 4wd it took a couple of goes but made it through, Towed it back down the island and on and off the barge to Inskip no worries, Craig   
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #89 on: October 07, 2017, 08:08:40 AM »
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 And what pressures do you drop the trailer to.

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Match truck and trailer tire tread ground contact lengths and you should have no troubles / turn off traction controls and turn trailer brake controls to zero, for the sand .
If you can, Do an air down at home when your FULLY  loaded before you leave to say "  16 PSI " on a rear wheel of your truck, Measure the tread / ground  contact length then let your trailer tire down till it matches that length .. It willl most likely be a few PSI lower than the truck tire, given the trailer might be lighter .
Note them down so you know what pressure to go to when you get to the air down point at the beach .
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #90 on: October 07, 2017, 08:18:10 AM »
Hey guys. I also love that Facebook site. I find it can get a little cruel at times, but I suppose when you see the same thing over and over for the same reason you would get over feeling sorry for people.

I have a question, what sort of trailer weight are people willing to put over the beach.  And what pressures do you drop the trailer to.


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i drop trailer tyres to atleast the same as the vehicles, sometimes slightly lower. If you aren't comfortable towing up Fraser with the lower pressure, then inflate them a touch once on the hard sand of the island (assuming you time the run for a couple of hours either side of low tide, which is what we do). Have seen a mates caravan not like the lowered tyre pressure once on the hard sand of Fraser, it squirmed all over the place, so stopped and reinflated the tyres and all was good. Inskip is where many get stuck aswell as getting off the hard sand into camp, would rather spend time deflating and inflating tyres, then trying to unbog a stuck vehicle and trailer. For many it is like a race up the island the minute they get off the barge, pull over and let them go, if you want to then reinflate tyres a touch and enjoy the drive up the beach.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #91 on: October 07, 2017, 08:45:56 AM »
Thanks heaps guys. I have done a little beach driving previously but only in underpowered slugs (2.2 forerunner and d22 navara) so naturally ran the tyres really low. Watching these videos had me really curious about getting vans on and off Fraser. So thanks guys.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #92 on: October 08, 2017, 03:08:55 AM »
i drop trailer tyres to atleast the same as the vehicles, sometimes slightly lower. If you aren't comfortable towing up Fraser with the lower pressure, then inflate them a touch once on the hard sand of the island (assuming you time the run for a couple of hours either side of low tide, which is what we do). Have seen a mates caravan not like the lowered tyre pressure once on the hard sand of Fraser, it squirmed all over the place, so stopped and reinflated the tyres and all was good. Inskip is where many get stuck aswell as getting off the hard sand into camp, would rather spend time deflating and inflating tyres, then trying to unbog a stuck vehicle and trailer. For many it is like a race up the island the minute they get off the barge, pull over and let them go, if you want to then reinflate tyres a touch and enjoy the drive up the beach.

Its like the first lap at Bathurst when everyone gets off the barge. Hook Point is like the top of the mountain and the main beach is like con rod straight.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #93 on: October 08, 2017, 08:30:59 AM »
Its like the first lap at Bathurst when everyone gets off the barge. Hook Point is like the top of the mountain and the main beach is like con rod straight.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #94 on: October 08, 2017, 08:55:36 AM »
 ;D ;D  Yep let them race away, You generaly end up  passing  a few of them further up the beach ...
For some reason they forget their on HOLIDAY  and still carry on like their in the rat race of  heading to and from work, Instead of sitting back RELAXING and cruising ..
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #95 on: October 08, 2017, 09:24:38 AM »
The only time I really gas it getting off the barge is if there's a big swell, and I like to avoid getting fired in Salt water, and typically haven't tuned into the fact that the car will get salt water on it while we're there

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #96 on: October 08, 2017, 01:11:01 PM »
For some reason they forget their on HOLIDAY  and still carry on like their in the rat race of  heading to and from work, Instead of sitting back RELAXING and cruising ..

Way back when I used to work for Telstra Mobiles, we'd often get calls "Will my mobile work on Fraser?"

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Unofficial answer, usually after they'd hung up, was always "For God's sake, WHY would you want your mobile to work" ??? ::)
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #97 on: October 08, 2017, 02:10:17 PM »
Last Saturday, the long weekend Saturday one young fella in his lux was 3rd or 4th in line for the first barge of the day. I did over here him talking and worked out it was his first time on he beach in his new second hand lux....he didn't make the barge as I don't think he knew how to engage 4WD. His mates waited on the other side. A 79 came to his rescues as we were heading across.

My STAUNS are set at 22 and I didn't have an issue. Left them at 22 for the nine days on fraser although the rain helped heaps.


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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #98 on: October 09, 2017, 10:35:00 AM »
We leave Melbourne for Fraser on Friday for our second trip there towing the KK, last time we were there in August so it was a little cooler. I'm running slightly larger tyres this trip but they are a bit more aggressive so will be interesting to see how they go last time we ran 18psi on tug and camper and had no issues at all however I'm guessing conditions will be a little different this time around with the temps being a little warmer so will just have to suck it and see however we will be airing down to at least 18 before we hit the sand lol ;).

We are staying at Central station for a couple of nights then back up to Cathedrals, any hints on best route to Central station from the manta ray barge would be awesome.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #99 on: October 09, 2017, 10:45:16 AM »
There's been plenty of rain - you'll be fine. Aggressive tyres aired down correctly are a non event. Turn left at Eurong to get to Central.
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