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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #150 on: December 26, 2017, 03:30:52 PM »
there is enough steel in a GQ/80/GU/100 chassis to make 5 modern dual cabs... sometimes over engineering is a good idea.


Yeah, for sure 8).
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #151 on: December 26, 2017, 06:27:15 PM »
Hi All, I know two blokes this year up the Cape that bent the chassy on the same late model dual cabs, No one would fix them up north or around Cairns, so they left there CTs and gear at Weipa and drove them home and fixed them self, after straitening the chassy they added a bit of 75 x 50 x 10mm angle up each side under the tray legs welded to the tray mounts job done, drove back up and had a another few weeks up there at Penny then home no worries, cost buggerall why do not the makers of the 4wds do this from new, Craig
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #152 on: December 26, 2017, 06:41:25 PM »
 $$$$$$$  and more $$$$$$$ Make them as cheap and light as they can  Hype them up with fancy ads and Bling then Flog them to the Sheeple masses  of the world that know no better, So they keep the Bean counters happy .
Then stop  building   solid units for people to compare them with .. ;D
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #153 on: December 26, 2017, 06:51:50 PM »
People want 'Performance', so they make them as light as possible.
People want 'Fuel Economy', so they make them lighter still.
People want to carry 'Max. stuff', so they make the cargo area as big as possible without changing anything else.
Thus we get what we ask for.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #154 on: December 26, 2017, 07:00:06 PM »
Yeah, for sure 8).



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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #156 on: December 26, 2017, 08:11:42 PM »
 At least the tow hitch is solid, The chassis bent and the hitch looks straight . ;D
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #157 on: December 26, 2017, 10:03:50 PM »
At least the tow hitch is solid, The chassis bent and the hitch looks straight . ;D

That's the problem right there.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #158 on: December 27, 2017, 10:38:06 AM »
Yeah, for sure 8).

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #160 on: December 27, 2017, 06:49:09 PM »
Being under weight in his BT50 means diddly squat, when he has all that weight (2 x wheels and ball weight of trailer for a start) hanging so far behind the rear axle. He likely thought he was ok and doing the right thing, but that's the result in the end.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #161 on: December 27, 2017, 06:50:36 PM »
Seems a cheap fix. I wonder if it would it affect warranty or insurance compliance
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #162 on: December 27, 2017, 06:55:18 PM »
More than likely ;D


Anyway, old mate with the bent BT has made a statement:
https://www.facebook.com/pinnacle4x4/videos/757184674470510/?comment_id=757203684468609


And I have found something to spend my Christmas money on.
http://www.performancesuspension.com.au/mazda-bt50-px-ranger-weld-on-chassis-brace-kit-4-plates-psrmaz-016.html
Watched the guy's Facebook video and fb write up...

He kept mentioning that it was just a simple accident where he bottomed out at speed - hitting a ditch in the sand at Inskip en route to Fraser...

When suddenly the rear chassis fulcrumed over the bump stops, bending the chassis....   bingo!

So if it's an accident, does that make it an insurance job?

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #163 on: December 27, 2017, 06:57:24 PM »
Lovin' the tow hitch on the Toilet-odour..... :cup: :cup:

Just shows anything can be broken if you try hard enough....
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #164 on: December 27, 2017, 07:00:50 PM »
Mitchells Falls  road                                            :-*                            :cheers:

Yep, was waiting for that  ;D ;D

Fix it and reload.... :cup: :cup:
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #165 on: December 27, 2017, 07:01:44 PM »
Manufacturer's load ratings don't apply off road....
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #166 on: December 27, 2017, 07:03:06 PM »
What tyre pressure was he running on the tow rig and camper out of curiosity, to make him hit the dip so fast in the fist place? I was running 14psi in the front of my Cruiser and 16psi in rear and on camper the other day when beach driving / getting into our camp...didn't hit anything at speed as there was no need to.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #167 on: December 27, 2017, 07:10:58 PM »
Yep, was waiting for that  ;D ;D

Fix it and reload.... :cup: :cup:


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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #168 on: December 27, 2017, 07:15:15 PM »

                       Just asking   , Dear Sir .                               :cup: :cheers:

It was a FUN drive....best in the Kimberley, by a long shot.... ;D ;D
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #169 on: December 27, 2017, 07:22:53 PM »
It was a FUN drive....best in the Kimberley, by a long shot.... ;D ;D
             The apron of the Divers Den Pub in Broome was almost as Good  , pulling out with 4 Blocks of cans , to continue the trip  . Ohhh lets do that again        :cup: :cup:
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #170 on: December 27, 2017, 09:53:00 PM »
Was in there in 1988 with my mum and dad and brother in two brand new 1988 cruisers one troopy one trayback unreel water falls great drive,  then went out to crystal creek great fishing stayed there two weeks fair bit of winching to get out there and back, then came out and went into Jarches beach Kalumburu stayed there a month best fishing out of a 3,8m tinny I have ever had, Craig   
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #171 on: December 28, 2017, 07:08:48 AM »
Manufacturer's load ratings don't apply off road....

Isn't that Landrovers theory too? I think the recommend to half the recommended load when heading off road.

It's funny speaking to members in Gen Pop (I don't really get along with the general population) and they are trying to drag their boat, caravan along the sand because it is rated to tow 3 tonne.

My theory, the laws of physics don't lie.....size and resistance and a tiny engine don't work well together.

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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #172 on: December 28, 2017, 07:14:32 AM »
What tyre pressure was he running on the tow rig and camper out of curiosity, to make him hit the dip so fast in the fist place? I was running 14psi in the front of my Cruiser and 16psi in rear and on camper the other day when beach driving / getting into our camp...didn't hit anything at speed as there was no need to.
You must just be better than the poor bloke on the video hey

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« Reply #173 on: December 28, 2017, 07:32:18 AM »
You must just be better than the poor bloke on the video hey
did someone not sleep well last night?....maybe the guy could simply deflate his tyres more and not use speed to get across sand, and hence not hit dips so fast and break his vehicle. The guy has made 2 mistakes (the speed which he mentions but not why he went so fast and the weight hanging so far back) and going by his video reply still doesn't acknowledge  that....it was just an accident apparently.  Deflating sufficiently is a simple concept many 4wd owners can learn, much like the muppet bogged at Flinders yesterday that refused to drop his tyres below 35psi, telling anyone that was suggesting so to go away if that's their idea of helping him. There is no right tyre pressure to deflate to, but if you need to hit stuff fast, you likely aren't at the right pressure.
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Re: Facebook Group, I Got Bogged at Inskip Point
« Reply #174 on: December 28, 2017, 09:17:03 AM »
Seems a cheap fix. I wonder if it would it affect warranty or insurance compliance
Well, warranty you could throw out the window, but I don't know of many that have had much luck claiming a warranty on a vehicle they have managed to bend.

Insurance; different companies have different attitudes but most go with the 'roadworthy vehicle' classification and the company does advise to talk to an engineer first. Different states have different rules and some may require a modification plate as you have modified the chassis. The plate design is within the design advice given in the Ford supplied chassis repair instructions (can't find my copy now though).

Beefing it up above the bump stops will mean less chance of needing a warranty or insurance claim for a bent rear end, but of course, strengthening it there can lead to failure elsewhere :-[.