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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2013, 04:31:54 PM »
Around KG, Panton Hill, Hurstbridge ,St Andrews
The one a KG yesterday was from a slasher
The one the week before they found delayed fire lighting thingy thats all my mate would say
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2013, 07:44:38 PM »
This one is going to upset a lot of peoples weekend plans methinks.

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the 4 KM NE HARRIETVILLE area.
It is travelling in a south easterly direction.
This fire is expected to impact Davenport Village, Falls Creek, Hotham Heights, Harrietville, Smoko anytime within the next 6 to 24 hours.

    The Great Alpine Road is closed between Harrietville and Hotham Heights.
    Bushwalkers and other forest users are advised to avoid walking tracks in the Alpine National Park east of Harrietville.

Size has been just updated to 700ha.

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« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2013, 07:53:42 PM »
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2013, 08:13:01 PM »
Another Fire has just come up, but not much known yet:

8:02PM  Eildon Jamieson Road.  1ha grassfire. 1 crew dispatched, Going.

Not much grassland that I know of along the road from Big River Camp  to Jamieson.

Hope they pull it up, its pretty windy out there up here at the moment.

EDIT:  Made Safe at 9:20PM, sounds like a good catch.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2013, 08:27:46 PM »
Another Fire has just come up, but not much known yet:

8:02PM  Eildon Jamieson Road.  1ha grassfire. 1 crew dispatched, Going.

Not much grassland that I know of along the road from Big River Camp  to Jamieson.

Hope they pull it up, its pretty windy out there up here at the moment.

EDIT:  Made Safe at 9:20PM, sounds like a good catch.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 11:26:53 PM »
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2013, 08:45:32 AM »
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people
in the early 90's there was a fire that wiped out parts of Como/Jannali in Sydney.. We couldn't get down the road in our truck, and neither could the paid fireys as the assholes wanting to look at all the damage/burning houses blocked the road. There were 100's of cars.
You see the image, there were that many cars they had the road blocked at Bates Dr where the red line is, and the houses that were about to burn were on Washington Dr in the left hand side. Total Gridlock along Bates, GR drive, Carvers etc.

As it was we were the 3rd truck in there, and dozens of houses were ash, nothing we could do for them. I better not post what I think of rubber neckers.

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2013, 03:48:09 PM »
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2013, 04:20:49 PM »
I better not post what I think of rubber neckers.

Post away!

You can also add some sightseers to that too.  There were plenty around after black saturday.  My inlaws were burnt out and their road remained closed to the public for some months after, yet we had 3 sightseers drive down the driveway and ask if they could have a look around while we were cleaning up!
you can imagine our response to their request...

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2013, 05:42:51 PM »
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2013, 05:51:13 PM »
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2013, 05:54:41 PM »
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   

Amazing what a little preparation can do, some up this way still think that there will be 3 firetrucks and a sky crane to save their house
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2013, 06:32:34 PM »
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   

That's great to hear that he and his house survived. I still think a bit of luck plays a part. There were quite a few houses and sheds I went to where you could see the melted/burnt hoses leading to a metal lump (sprinkler) - and the houses and/or sheds were gone.

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2013, 06:24:58 PM »
I dont mind the heat its the High winds that scare the crap out of me
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2013, 09:41:14 PM »
Isn't hind sight a wonderful thing, or not. In a time and place far,far away, after some massive fires in Adelaide a company that shall remain nameless came up with a domestic fire prevention system that was about 95% failsafe.
It involved having a concrete water tank of about 20,000 litres, a diesel powered water pump, a mobile phone activated starter switch, all steel piping( fire proof) to the house walls and roof and dozens of misting spray heads on the roof and under the eaves.
A phone call to the pump activated it and the whole house would be enveloped in a fine mist of water for a coupe of days.
The 5% failure was put down to flat starter battery or loss of phone signal.
What killed the idea ? Cost was about $20000 to $30000 then so people decided it was better to let the house burn down than payout that sort of coin.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #42 on: January 25, 2013, 11:15:23 AM »
That's great to hear that he and his house survived. I still think a bit of luck plays a part. There were quite a few houses and sheds I went to where you could see the melted/burnt hoses leading to a metal lump (sprinkler) - and the houses and/or sheds were gone.
I agree a fair amount of luck was involved, but when you consider a molten pile of twisted steel 20 feet from their back door (once a double garage), two semi burnt veranda posts and a tree with burnt branches over hanging the house I think you would have to admit their fire plan worked remarkably well. I think it was a testament to their good sense and fore thought that they planned. prepared and evacuated saving not only their lives but their memories. Go them!!

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2013, 09:07:25 PM »
Post away!

You can also add some sightseers to that too.  There were plenty around after black saturday.  My inlaws were burnt out and their road remained closed to the public for some months after, yet we had 3 sightseers drive down the driveway and ask if they could have a look around while we were cleaning up!
you can imagine our response to their request...

Even DURING the Black saturday fires, on the Saturday arvo/evening, in Lilydale at the road block on Melba hwy, there was 400-500 people just standing and watching! they could easily have left, as the road back they were being directed down another road to Lilydale, away from Yarra GlenYes people, it's smoke....move along now.......get out of mine, and more importantly the Fire Trucks way.......Again after BLack Saturday, i was working in the area between Yarra glena nd kinglake and we were called to a person injured by a chainsaw felling burnt trees and were driving around people CLEARLY not residents, just driving around, looking and burnt houses and trees. People! seriously!! have some frikken respect! or even.....heaven forbid...common decency!
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2013, 09:26:51 PM »
Even DURING the Black saturday fires, on the Saturday arvo/evening, in Lilydale at the road block on Melba hwy, there was 400-500 people just standing and watching! they could easily have left, as the road back they were being directed down another road to Lilydale, away from Yarra GlenYes people, it's smoke....move along now.......get out of mine, and more importantly the Fire Trucks way.......Again after BLack Saturday, i was working in the area between Yarra glena nd kinglake and we were called to a person injured by a chainsaw felling burnt trees and were driving around people CLEARLY not residents, just driving around, looking and burnt houses and trees. People! seriously!! have some frikken respect! or even.....heaven forbid...common decency!
A lot to be said for impounding of vehicles and detaining of 'pests' in a state of emergency.  They are they equivalent of hon drivers, only the circumstances are different.
True, the police have far more important things to do in such circumstances, but the threat of such an outcome should keep such fekwits away.
SssA case of 'too many rules ' / 'nanny state'... Not in my opinion, and better than some outraged person affected by the disaster taking the law into their own hands.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2013, 08:42:26 AM »
Dramatic pics guys. I'm sure the locals could define anxiety, knowing it's creeping away so close to town, waiting for the next windy day to fan it.

Has any of this (ex)Oswald rain made it down to Vic? I take it no. Dorothea Mackellar sure nailed the description of this country of contrasts.
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2013, 08:57:41 AM »
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Has any of this (ex)Oswald rain made it down to Vic? I take it no. Dorothea Mackellar sure nailed the description of this country of contrasts.
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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #47 on: January 31, 2013, 03:54:16 PM »
Hope this rain helps :(


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Emergency Warning
Mount Hotham, Hotham Heights and Dinner Plain

Effective: 31/01/13 4:32 PM

Expires: 31/01/13 5:15 PM


Incident Information:

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the Mount Hotham, Hotham Heights and Dinner Plain area. It is travelling in a south easterly direction.

This fire is expected to impact anytime within the next hour.
?This bushfire is approximately 4100 hectares in size and is out of control, currently creating spot-fires approximately 2-3km/s ahead.
?Relocation is not advisable.  If required head to the neighborhood safer place.   



What to do:
?Act immediately- you are in danger. There is a risk to lives and homes.
?Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions.
?Leave now if it is safe to do so and there is a safer place nearby.
?Turn on your vehicle headlights and drive slowly; smoke will make it difficult to see.
?Consider shelter options close by. This may include a private bunker (that meets current regulations).
?Last resort options include a Neighbourhood Safer Place, a stationary car in a cleared area, a ploughed paddock or reserve or body of water like a swimming pool or dam.
?If you cannot leave the area take shelter when the fire arrives - protect yourself from the fire's heat.
?If you are away from home; do not return.
?If time permits, check your neighbours to see if they are monitoring conditions.
?If you are experiencing any symptoms that may be due to smoke exposure, the Department of Health advises people to seek medical advice or call Nurse on Call on 1300 606 024.
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« Reply #48 on: January 31, 2013, 04:54:38 PM »
Don't think the rain will reach them. Starting to look very bad on the ski cams. Supposed to be chance of snow the next couple of days though

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Re: Victorian Fires
« Reply #49 on: January 31, 2013, 07:02:06 PM »
According to 774 radio they have circled the snow making machinery and are using it to wet down the perimeter.  Apparently only about 20 at Hotham and they know what they are doing.
Hopefully their perimeter holds and they don't need to take to the dam.
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