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Title: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Alan Loy on March 09, 2019, 03:35:50 PM
Just came across these, http://modcon.com.au/c3-hybrid (http://modcon.com.au/c3-hybrid) made OS as all the new Modcons seem to be. Does anyone know how tough they are? Any other comments?
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Kangaron on March 09, 2019, 04:07:07 PM
There seem to be a plethora of these coming out of China lately, many different brands, all look very similar. We had a look mat a few at the Bendigo Leisure fest last November, very claustrophobic, but one mans meat is another mans poison.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Steffo1 on March 09, 2019, 04:51:39 PM
There seem to be a plethora of these coming out of China lately, many different brands, all look very similar. We had a look mat a few at the Bendigo Leisure fest last November, very claustrophobic, but one mans meat is another mans poison.

Had a look at one a couple of weeks ago. Have to agree with the claustro.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Moxley on March 09, 2019, 05:11:42 PM
Must be pretty strong because they’re pretty heavy.


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Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: tryagain on March 09, 2019, 05:36:38 PM
Basically a complete campsite exodus knock off, there was a post or two about them a little while back.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Alan Loy on March 09, 2019, 06:24:21 PM
Basically a complete campsite exodus knock off, there was a post or two about them a little while back.
Love the complete campsite exodus, I imagine the $70/80,000 extra buys you more than just Australian labour costs
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Alan Loy on March 09, 2019, 06:25:50 PM
Must be pretty strong because they’re pretty heavy.
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I'm not sure weight equals strength ( I suspect you agree  :laugh: :laugh:)
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2019, 06:42:09 PM
Quote from: Kangaron
very claustrophobic,

I see most of them like that.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Moxley on March 09, 2019, 08:36:09 PM
I'm not sure weight equals strength ( I suspect you agree  :laugh: :laugh:)

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Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: KingBilly on March 09, 2019, 10:05:05 PM
What about this?

https://www.jayco.com.au/promo/crosstrak (https://www.jayco.com.au/promo/crosstrak)

KB
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: MarkVS on March 10, 2019, 03:46:02 AM
Scott looks good in the video
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: tryagain on March 10, 2019, 05:06:52 AM
Love the complete campsite exodus, I imagine the $70/80,000 extra buys you more than just Australian labour costs

Yeah, decent quality control, adaptability when ordering, and probably better materials  in many instances. For some (probably many) the price difference over the CC Exodus means that they are things they are happy to live with.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: tryagain on March 10, 2019, 05:11:02 AM
Here is a previous post on them http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=54920.0 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=54920.0)
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: PWE on March 10, 2019, 10:04:14 AM
Yeah, decent quality control, adaptability when ordering, and probably better materials  in many instances. For some (probably many) the price difference over the CC Exodus means that they are things they are happy to live with.

Correct, people are willing to pay less and compromise on toughness and quality, just look at how many people buy vehicles other than a Toyota??
It is a good thing the internet was not around when Snowy 1.0 was built, Toyota got a kicking in the paper and it would have been worse if the internet was around.
Anyway, for me it is about a principle that you do not knock-off someone else design (skip the R&D fun part) and sell it as your own. Most will see $80k vs $40k, and to be honest, more people camping means holiday money stay in Australia, which is good.
At least China is buy the iron ore from Australia.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: KingBilly on March 10, 2019, 10:26:30 AM
At least China is buy the iron ore from Australia.

And the alumium, and the copper, and the coal, and the gas, and the etc., etc., etc..

Without China, Australia would be on the skids.

KB
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: McGirr on March 10, 2019, 11:23:10 AM
I think we would all like to spend $70k plus on Australian made hybrids but reality is we cannot.

As mentioned imported brands are getting better compared to years ago. There are some good Chinese models on the market and nearly all look the same  ;D. The "they copied this and that from them" argument doesn't have any pull these days.

Regarding paying less for quality, the norm in the Australian made caravan industry is expect issues when buying new.

Mark
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: tryagain on March 10, 2019, 11:57:43 AM
Regarding paying less for quality, the norm in the Australian made caravan industry is expect issues when buying new.

Mark

Best off sticking to campers then  ;)
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: outbackogre on March 10, 2019, 05:36:07 PM
What about this?

https://www.jayco.com.au/promo/crosstrak (https://www.jayco.com.au/promo/crosstrak)

KB

Thanks KB.  I didn't know about these until your post.  Has anybody seen one in the flesh?  They look ok on paper, and a reasonable price.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: whitey001 on March 10, 2019, 05:49:15 PM
Thanks KB.  I didn't know about these until your post.  Has anybody seen one in the flesh?  They look ok on paper, and a reasonable price.

Saw it at the Caravan & Camping show.  On paper, I liked it.  In the flesh, not so much.  Not enough kitchen storage.  Small fridge slide.  Under bed storage not accessible enough from the outside & no protection for the underside of the cooker.  Door doesn't open properly with the awning out.  Too many things that aren't an easy fix.  For me, the C3 is a much better option.

Al.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: JusyApples on March 10, 2019, 05:55:26 PM
There is a Facebook group for modcon owners. Early indications from the new C3 owners seem to be positive but it’s only early days so I guess wait and see


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Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: tryagain on March 10, 2019, 06:24:29 PM
for me it is about a principle that you do not knock-off someone else design (skip the R&D fun part) and sell it as your own.

I have a little sympathy for Modcon in this regard after developing the forward fold, for everyone else to then copy it.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: edz on March 11, 2019, 07:03:35 AM
Wonder if they still just Blow holes in the chassis with an oxy, looks pretty ugly or they place them and drill them properly before they get gal dipped ..?  Could be  possible they missed a couple of proper vent holes and the Gal Dippers did it, Would have to crawl under for a look .
From the vid ..    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEICQ-Adw8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEICQ-Adw8)
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: outbackogre on March 11, 2019, 07:30:36 AM
Saw it at the Caravan & Camping show.  On paper, I liked it.  In the flesh, not so much.  Not enough kitchen storage.  Small fridge slide.  Under bed storage not accessible enough from the outside & no protection for the underside of the cooker.  Door doesn't open properly with the awning out.  Too many things that aren't an easy fix.  For me, the C3 is a much better option.

Al.

Thanks Al.  I think the C3 claims to have a full queen size bed.  Do you happen to know how wide the bed is on the Crosstrak? 
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: whitey001 on March 11, 2019, 02:45:08 PM
Thanks Al.  I think the C3 claims to have a full queen size bed.  Do you happen to know how wide the bed is on the Crosstrak?

I reckon it was a bit smaller in width than a queen size from memory. 

Al.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: outbackogre on March 12, 2019, 06:50:52 AM
Thanks Al.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: Studogg on March 14, 2019, 10:35:07 PM
This is exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. Have owned a soft floor camper for 11 years. We want to upgrade to a hybrid caravan that basically needs no setting up. Goes off road but on easy tracks. Not after Toyota Tuff. Inside only want queen bed, two bunks for kids and some storage. No inside kitchen at all. Just want to sleep inside. Want an outside kitchen and a pantry sort of thing built into the side. I had done up my own drawing and it was very similar to the modcon camper. Was thinking of building one but for the price of this thing I wouldn't bother.

The only thing I am unsure of on this thing is the annex. We like having a bigger under cover outside area. We cut the annex off our camper and setup a 6m x 6m tarp over it. I have been thinking of solutions for mounting a bigger annex to a hybrid caravan type thing. Once again this comes back to ease of setup verses how big it can be. It will be a little while before we can afford one but I will keep watching with interest.
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: edz on March 15, 2019, 07:58:58 AM
Eazy enough to do extensions onto an awning track for longer / wider awnings ..
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: paceman on March 15, 2019, 08:14:25 AM
This is exactly the sort of thing I am looking for. Have owned a soft floor camper for 11 years. We want to upgrade to a hybrid caravan that basically needs no setting up. Goes off road but on easy tracks. Not after Toyota Tuff. Inside only want queen bed, two bunks for kids and some storage. No inside kitchen at all. Just want to sleep inside. Want an outside kitchen and a pantry sort of thing built into the side. I had done up my own drawing and it was very similar to the modcon camper. Was thinking of building one but for the price of this thing I wouldn't bother.

The only thing I am unsure of on this thing is the annex. We like having a bigger under cover outside area. We cut the annex off our camper and setup a 6m x 6m tarp over it. I have been thinking of solutions for mounting a bigger annex to a hybrid caravan type thing. Once again this comes back to ease of setup verses how big it can be. It will be a little while before we can afford one but I will keep watching with interest.

we are in exactly the same position...

don't want to cook inside... just a bed, bunks and storage...

we have started really getting to like using our 3m gazebo for extra space next to our soft floor awning and i reckon we would use it with a new camper as well...

flexible, easy to carry and set up...
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: 2010banditsa on March 15, 2019, 09:35:59 AM

we have started really getting to like using our 3m gazebo for extra space next to our soft floor awning
flexible, easy to carry and set up...

Plus they seem to hold up really well in reasonable wind from what ive seen
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: paceman on March 15, 2019, 10:09:40 AM
Plus they seem to hold up really well in reasonable wind from what ive seen

we have an alloy outdoor connection 3m gazebo and it's been great in wind...

i just made up some stronger tie down ropes with decent pegs and it's good to go...
Title: Re: ModCon C3 Hybrid Caravan
Post by: macca on March 15, 2019, 11:57:06 AM
I'm the same, have a 3 metre Oztrail Deluxe and have made heavy ropes that tie to the frame and hold them in the ground with four of BrettB's pegs, holds up in all sorts of wind even with the walls on it

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