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Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 17, 2013, 03:34:32 PM
Mate just telling me that Campers Nth of Walhalla have been told to get out. Although Walhalla township is ok though, no need to move
 he is listening to 774am

Not much here, although Donnellys Creek has burnt quite a bit
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-incidents/ (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-incidents/)

EDIT
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1265693494.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1265693494.html)

Emergency Warning

ARMY RD
PAKENHAM
Effective: 17/01/13 3:48 PM
Expires: 17/01/13 5:30 PM


Incident Information:

There is a medium, fast moving bushfire in the PAKENHAM area.

It is travelling in a South Easterly direction / towards Pakenham.  The fire is currently burning in the Pakenham Road, Army Road, Renyolds Road Area of Pakenham.

This fire is expected to impact Pakenham between the hours of 3:45 PM - 4:45 PM.
?This bushfire is approximately hectares in size and is out of control, currently creating spot-fires approximately <1km/s ahead.


What to do:

?There is a risk to lives and homes, follow your bushfire survival plan.
?If you plan to leave, or you are not prepared and there is a safer place near by, leave now if it is safe to do so.
?Turn on your vehicle headlights and drive slowly; smoke will make it difficult to see.
?Well prepared and actively defended homes can offer safety.
?Take shelter when the fire arrives - protect yourself from the fire's heat.
?Consider shelter options close by. These may include a private bunker (that meets current regulations) or a designated shelter or refuge.
?Last resort options include Neighbourhood Safer Place, a stationary car in a cleared area, or a ploughed paddock or reserve or body of water like a swimming pool or dam.
?If you are away from home: do not return.
?If time permits, check your neighbours to see if they are monitoring conditions.
?If you are experiencing any symptoms that may be due to smoke exposure, the Department of Health advises people to seek medical advice or call Nurse on Call on 1300 606 024.
Title: Re: Vic Fires
Post by: Bird on January 17, 2013, 03:39:18 PM
heres the info on the Campers near Thommo Dam.

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Meanwhile, campers and visitors are being asked to leave an area of west Gippsland where a bushfire is burning out of control.

The fire is south-east of Aberfeldy, near the Thomson dam, and has burnt through 250 hectares, much of which is regrowth from 2007 fires.

Eight aircraft are attacking the blaze.

Roads are closed in the area and nearby communities are being warned of smoke.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-17/fire-authorities-on-alert-as-temperatures-climb/4469440/?site=melbourne (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-17/fire-authorities-on-alert-as-temperatures-climb/4469440/?site=melbourne)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/emergency/state/vic/ (http://www.abc.net.au/news/emergency/state/vic/)



Edit:
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/pakenham-grass-fire-blazes-out-of-control-20130117-2cvli.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/pakenham-grass-fire-blazes-out-of-control-20130117-2cvli.html)
Title: Re: Vic Fires
Post by: Bird on January 17, 2013, 03:48:38 PM
Add to that:

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Severe Weather Warning  for damaging winds for people in the North East, West and South Gippsland and East Gippsland  forecast districts.

Issued at 4:17 pm EDT on Thursday 17 January 2013.

Weather Situation
A cold front is forecast to reach western Victoria early Friday morning then move rapidly through central and northwestern districts by late Friday morning and the remainder of the state by early Friday afternoon.

Damaging north to northwesterly winds around 60-70km/h with peak gusts of 100 km/h are forecast for elevated areas above about 900 metres of the North East,
 West and South Gippsland and East Gippsland forecast districts from early Friday morning. A southwesterly wind change along the Gippsland coastal fringe also has some potential for localised damaging winds of 55-65 km/h and gusts to 90km/h Friday morning.

The State Emergency Service advises that people should:
 - Move vehicles under cover or away from trees.
 - Secure or put away loose items around your house, yard and balcony.
 - Keep clear of fallen power lines.
 For emergency help in floods and storms, ring your local SES Unit on 132 500.
 The next warning will be issued by 11:00 pm EDT Thursday.

This warning is also available through TV and Radio broadcasts; the Bureau's website at www.bom.gov.au (http://www.bom.gov.au) or call 1300-659-217*.

The Bureau and State Emergency Service would appreciate this warning being broadcast regularly.

Issued by: The Weather Company
Find out more: http://www.weatherzone.com.au (http://www.weatherzone.com.au)
Gawd, that's really a bad combo.. :(



Edit:
Effective: 17/01/13 4:52 PM
Expires: 17/01/13 8:00 PM

Incident Information:

Country Fire Authority advise that there is fire activity in the PAKENHAM area.
?There has been a fire in Pakenham, in the Pakenham Road, Army Road Road, Renyolds Road area.  This bushfire has been  contained.
?This message applies to the town(s) of Pakenham.
?Smoke may be visible from nearby communities and roads.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on January 17, 2013, 09:07:44 PM
DONNELY CREEK
Effective: 17/01/13 9:26 PM
Expires: 17/01/13 11:00 PM
Incident Information:
There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the DONNELY CREEK area.
It is currently travelling in a South Easterly Direction direction.
This fire is expected to impact Coongulla, Cowwarr, Glenmaggie, Heyfield, Licola, Seaton, Toongabbie between the hours of 6:00 AM - 10:00 AM tomorrow morning.
This bushfire is approximately 1000 hectares in size and is out of control.
A wind change is expected anytime in the next 5 hours, which may cause the fire to change direction towards the Licola Road.
We are anticipating that the Licola Road will be impacted by this fire in the early hours of tomorrow (Friday) morning.  Residents of Licola and surrounds should consider leaving the area as soon as possible as the road is likely to be closed.
Spot fires and ash may be falling ahead of the fire front a may impact communities including Coongulla, Cowwarr, Glenmaggie, Heyfield, Licola, Seaton, Toongabbie. Residents of these areas should monitor conditions and decide what action they will take if the fire situation changes.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 18, 2013, 07:23:28 AM
Not good for Licola, again

ABERFELDY - DONNELYS

Licola
Effective: 18/01/13 6:39 AM

Expires: 18/01/13 12:00 PM


Incident Information:

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the Licola area.

It is travelling towards the Licola Road.

Licola and surrounding areas are now isolated. 

?This bushfire is out of control.
?The fire is now at the Licola Road.
?It is now too late to leave Licola.

Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: dazzler on January 18, 2013, 08:46:21 AM
Good luck.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2013, 08:46:48 AM
Its sounding very bad out there.

They interviewed the chick at Heyfield servo before, and its dark there, but no ember attack yet :(


Emergency Warning

GLENMAGGIE - SEATON

Glenmaggie
Effective: 18/01/13 9:34 AM

Expires: 18/01/13 10:00 AM


Incident Information:

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the Glenmaggie area.

It is travelling in a south east direction towards Heyfield.

This fire is expected to impact Lake Glenmaggie, Cowwarr, Dawson, Glenmaggie, Heyfield, Seaton, Toongabbie NOW
?This bushfire is greater than 25,000 hectares in size and is out of control, currently creating spot-fires ahead.
?A wind change is expected anytime in the next 2 hours, which may cause the fire to change direction towards the north east.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: dazzler
Good luck.
x googleplex + 1
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
Apparently they have just realized there's campers in paradise valley and noone has told them about the fire at all
:o :o :o :o
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: Vk3bq on January 18, 2013, 12:48:39 PM
Just seen an EM map and other than heli's they have no choice but to let it burn (now its changed direction north). The predicted fire field is huge (dse maps) because of where it's headed.

I work for a telco. On wednesday we commissioned a new mobile phone tower in glenmaggie. Today it's most likely it will burn down :))
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
This bushfire is approximately 44500 hectares in size and is out of control, currently creating spot-fires approximately 2-4 kms ahead. :o



Just seen an EM map and other than heli's they have no choice but to let it burn (now its changed direction north). The predicted fire field is huge (dse maps) because of where it's headed.

I work for a telco. On wednesday we commissioned a new mobile phone tower in glenmaggie. Today it's most likely it will burn down :))

your probably right

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Homes in Gippsland towns affected by a large and out-of-control bushfire this morning have been destroyed, as nearby communities face more direct threats.

The fire had grown alarmingly late on Friday morning. A wind change is pushing the fire towards the north-east, and away from the larger town of Heyfield, but it has had an impact on Seaton, Licola, Glenmaggie and Dawson.

The Country Fire Authority is battling the fire, which has grown larger than 25,000 hectares. It is directly threatening several towns.

Four houses have been lost in the Seaton and Glenmaggie area, with one house lost at Dawson. There were reports of at least two more houses being on fire at Glenmaggie Point.  As many as ten houses at Glenmaggie, Seaton and Dawson have been destroyed as the bushfire marches north-east.

The cemetery and a caravan park at Glenmaggie have also been affected, but fire services have been unable to assess the damage as the fire grows to more than 25,000 hectares fueled by winds that show no sign of abating.

Fire authorities are warning that the hamlet of Licola, at the edge of the Alpine National Park, is now isolated by fires. The road into the town is closed and a wind change is expected to push the massive blaze in the town’s direction later on Friday.

According to the CFA, while the Licola threat remains, authorities do not expect the fire to reach the township today.

A CFA tweet stated that the ‘‘wind change is pushing the fire towards it but is still some distance away’’
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/we-are-just-bunkering-down-waiting-for-the-onslaught-20130118-2cwso.html#ixzz2IIL6p2u1 (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/we-are-just-bunkering-down-waiting-for-the-onslaught-20130118-2cwso.html#ixzz2IIL6p2u1)


Very sad... :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 18, 2013, 07:50:29 PM
Very sad..
:(
RIP.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on January 18, 2013, 09:32:02 PM
The wind change early this morning most likely saved property loss to Heyfield - unfortunately it came at a cost of sheds, barns, houses and one life in Seaton. Here's hoping for a significant wind change to turn it around on itself.

As one of the lads in the ICC and on the ground today I can say the DSE & CFA fire crews did a, and continue, to do a stirling job!  :cup:

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 18, 2013, 10:17:45 PM
Had been thinking of you Tim, and many old colleagues / friends in Heyfield and Maffra.
So sad to hear of the fatality at Seaton, hopefully there will be no more.
When I heard of the impending wind change to a South Easterly on the news last night I feared that the fire front would turn towards the Avon Wilderness Area. 
Once it gets in there it will run like "the colt from old Regret".  As Lost said, lets hope that the wind turns the front back on itself.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 18, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
Apparently two new fires in the Corryong area.
One at Pine Mountain, where we were last time last year.
Was heaps of material there to burn 12 months ago, no doubt more now.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: DeLuxHiLux on January 19, 2013, 03:15:35 PM
This is why we bailed on a longer stay in the King River Basin this week. A mate with CFA Staff told us thursday was gonna be horrid fire weather on sunday when we headed over Cobbler, and given nothing works Comms wise in there except HF, seeing smoke would have been too late. Last time I went to O'Tooles Flat nr Abberfeldy, it  burnt 2 weeks after I was there..... Craigs hut burnt 10 days after i left and I drove from Kinglake to Marysville the week beofre Black aturday.......I"m starting to think i shouldnt camp or visit the bush........ this fire headed towards the alpine National park (if its not alreadythere) X2 for the wind to blow this thing back on itself!! they are starting to cancel Strike Team deployments from Melbourne.... that sounds like a good thing.....hopefully.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 21, 2013, 03:37:41 PM
close to a few people from works houses..
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Fire authorities have issued an emergency warning about an out-of-control bushfire near Wallan, north of Melbourne.
The Country Fire Authority said this afternoon that the medium, fast moving grassfire in the Old Sydney Road Wallan area had burned approximately 30 hectares.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/wallan-under-fire-emergency-warning-20130121-2d1zd.html#ixzz2IaM74Xyk (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/wallan-under-fire-emergency-warning-20130121-2d1zd.html#ixzz2IaM74Xyk)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on January 21, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Yep They have been lighting fires out our way again %$#^ Heads
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on January 21, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Yep They have been lighting fires out our way again %$#^ Heads

Unbelievable mate
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 21, 2013, 07:36:32 PM
Yep They have been lighting fires out our way again %$#^ Heads

Yup moron just lit up the gorge again, luck they got onto it quick smart.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on January 21, 2013, 08:34:57 PM
Yup moron just lit up the gorge again, luck they got onto it quick smart.

Be a bit of a worrie if that went up
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on January 21, 2013, 10:26:15 PM
A photo for Speewa as we all know how he loves his Paj  :-*....This one taken on our way out of Huggetts Crossing Friday morning. View is SW to the Aberfeldy Fire, at this stage it was past Seaton approaching Glenmaggie.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/Elmer_5mf/HuggettsLookoutFriAM_zps54c63152.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 22, 2013, 09:05:25 AM
Quote from: Tim - Stratford
This one taken on our way out of Huggetts Crossing Friday morning.
View is SW to the Aberfeldy Fire, at this stage it was past Seaton approaching Glenmaggie.
(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/Elmer_5mf/HuggettsLookoutFriAM_zps54c63152.jpg)
Gee Huggetts, I haven't been out that way for *SO* long... Must run a trip out that way again
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on January 22, 2013, 12:21:36 PM
Great area around there, some good camping although the last two times have been just after floods so have been unable to cross the Avon and we were going to go there the weekend after Aus Day, guess not now
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on January 22, 2013, 04:12:10 PM
Yep They have been lighting fires out our way again %$#^ Heads

Where abouts?  I've heard of a couple of deliberately lit small grass fires in Hurstbridge (Bannons Lane area) and that a couple of 12 year olds are allegedly to blame for the big KG grass fire.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on January 22, 2013, 04:31:54 PM
Around KG, Panton Hill, Hurstbridge ,St Andrews
The one a KG yesterday was from a slasher
The one the week before they found delayed fire lighting thingy thats all my mate would say
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on January 22, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
This one is going to upset a lot of peoples weekend plans methinks.

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the 4 KM NE HARRIETVILLE area.
It is travelling in a south easterly direction.
This fire is expected to impact Davenport Village, Falls Creek, Hotham Heights, Harrietville, Smoko anytime within the next 6 to 24 hours.

    The Great Alpine Road is closed between Harrietville and Hotham Heights.
    Bushwalkers and other forest users are advised to avoid walking tracks in the Alpine National Park east of Harrietville.

Size has been just updated to 700ha.

Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on January 22, 2013, 07:53:42 PM
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on January 22, 2013, 08:13:01 PM
Another Fire has just come up, but not much known yet:

8:02PM  Eildon Jamieson Road.  1ha grassfire. 1 crew dispatched, Going.

Not much grassland that I know of along the road from Big River Camp  to Jamieson.

Hope they pull it up, its pretty windy out there up here at the moment.

EDIT:  Made Safe at 9:20PM, sounds like a good catch.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 22, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
Another Fire has just come up, but not much known yet:

8:02PM  Eildon Jamieson Road.  1ha grassfire. 1 crew dispatched, Going.

Not much grassland that I know of along the road from Big River Camp  to Jamieson.

Hope they pull it up, its pretty windy out there up here at the moment.

EDIT:  Made Safe at 9:20PM, sounds like a good catch.
almost scareily quiet here at the moment.. :S
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 22, 2013, 11:26:53 PM
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people

What? You mean other than the fact that they are Poms?   >:D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on January 23, 2013, 08:37:44 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/parks-closed-as-hot-winds-drive-fire-danger-20130123-2d5w2.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/parks-closed-as-hot-winds-drive-fire-danger-20130123-2d5w2.html)

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 23, 2013, 08:45:32 AM
I was at our local park with my sons the other day and overheard an English woman gleefully talking about how they were going on a day trip to go and see the fires.

I told her that wasn't the best idea for all the obvious reasons. She didn't see what the problem was, the tv crews can go and take pics so why couldn't they.

Turns out she is a friend of my in laws and is as thick as two planks.

They didn't go not because it was a bad idea but because they went to my nieces birthday instead, but might go this weekend.

WTF is wrong with people
in the early 90's there was a fire that wiped out parts of Como/Jannali in Sydney.. We couldn't get down the road in our truck, and neither could the paid fireys as the assholes wanting to look at all the damage/burning houses blocked the road. There were 100's of cars.
You see the image, there were that many cars they had the road blocked at Bates Dr where the red line is, and the houses that were about to burn were on Washington Dr in the left hand side. Total Gridlock along Bates, GR drive, Carvers etc.

As it was we were the 3rd truck in there, and dozens of houses were ash, nothing we could do for them. I better not post what I think of rubber neckers.

(http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/cremo1/washington.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on January 23, 2013, 03:48:09 PM
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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on January 23, 2013, 04:20:49 PM
I better not post what I think of rubber neckers.

Post away!

You can also add some sightseers to that too.  There were plenty around after black saturday.  My inlaws were burnt out and their road remained closed to the public for some months after, yet we had 3 sightseers drive down the driveway and ask if they could have a look around while we were cleaning up!
you can imagine our response to their request...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: qlddsl on January 23, 2013, 05:42:51 PM
Post away!


Go on LOST, I dare you. Runs and hides
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: champin on January 23, 2013, 05:51:13 PM
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: qlddsl on January 23, 2013, 05:54:41 PM
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   

Amazing what a little preparation can do, some up this way still think that there will be 3 firetrucks and a sky crane to save their house
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on January 23, 2013, 06:32:34 PM
My brother got to go back home (Seaton) on Sunday. Thanks to a $300 firefighter pump from Aldi, 4 common variety garden sprinklers on his roof and a bit of poly pipe, his house was still standing amongst what can only be described as devastation. A 15 foot green area around the house was occupied by some bovine locals as that was the only feed as far as the eye could see.   

That's great to hear that he and his house survived. I still think a bit of luck plays a part. There were quite a few houses and sheds I went to where you could see the melted/burnt hoses leading to a metal lump (sprinkler) - and the houses and/or sheds were gone.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on January 24, 2013, 06:24:58 PM
I dont mind the heat its the High winds that scare the crap out of me
Stay safe every one
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on January 24, 2013, 09:41:14 PM
Isn't hind sight a wonderful thing, or not. In a time and place far,far away, after some massive fires in Adelaide a company that shall remain nameless came up with a domestic fire prevention system that was about 95% failsafe.
It involved having a concrete water tank of about 20,000 litres, a diesel powered water pump, a mobile phone activated starter switch, all steel piping( fire proof) to the house walls and roof and dozens of misting spray heads on the roof and under the eaves.
A phone call to the pump activated it and the whole house would be enveloped in a fine mist of water for a coupe of days.
The 5% failure was put down to flat starter battery or loss of phone signal.
What killed the idea ? Cost was about $20000 to $30000 then so people decided it was better to let the house burn down than payout that sort of coin.
 :cheers: Keith
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 25, 2013, 09:20:10 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/windchange-threat-as-fires-burn-20130125-2dajb.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/windchange-threat-as-fires-burn-20130125-2dajb.html)
(http://images.theage.com.au/2013/01/25/3979165/art-fire-620x349.jpg)
(http://images.theage.com.au/2013/01/25/3979159/an-Fires-20in-20the-20Alpine-20National-20Park-20at-20Harrietville-20130125013433897105-300x0.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: champin on January 25, 2013, 11:15:23 AM
That's great to hear that he and his house survived. I still think a bit of luck plays a part. There were quite a few houses and sheds I went to where you could see the melted/burnt hoses leading to a metal lump (sprinkler) - and the houses and/or sheds were gone.
I agree a fair amount of luck was involved, but when you consider a molten pile of twisted steel 20 feet from their back door (once a double garage), two semi burnt veranda posts and a tree with burnt branches over hanging the house I think you would have to admit their fire plan worked remarkably well. I think it was a testament to their good sense and fore thought that they planned. prepared and evacuated saving not only their lives but their memories. Go them!!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: DeLuxHiLux on January 29, 2013, 09:07:25 PM
Post away!

You can also add some sightseers to that too.  There were plenty around after black saturday.  My inlaws were burnt out and their road remained closed to the public for some months after, yet we had 3 sightseers drive down the driveway and ask if they could have a look around while we were cleaning up!
you can imagine our response to their request...

Even DURING the Black saturday fires, on the Saturday arvo/evening, in Lilydale at the road block on Melba hwy, there was 400-500 people just standing and watching! they could easily have left, as the road back they were being directed down another road to Lilydale, away from Yarra GlenYes people, it's smoke....move along now.......get out of mine, and more importantly the Fire Trucks way.......Again after BLack Saturday, i was working in the area between Yarra glena nd kinglake and we were called to a person injured by a chainsaw felling burnt trees and were driving around people CLEARLY not residents, just driving around, looking and burnt houses and trees. People! seriously!! have some frikken respect! or even.....heaven forbid...common decency!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 29, 2013, 09:26:51 PM
Even DURING the Black saturday fires, on the Saturday arvo/evening, in Lilydale at the road block on Melba hwy, there was 400-500 people just standing and watching! they could easily have left, as the road back they were being directed down another road to Lilydale, away from Yarra GlenYes people, it's smoke....move along now.......get out of mine, and more importantly the Fire Trucks way.......Again after BLack Saturday, i was working in the area between Yarra glena nd kinglake and we were called to a person injured by a chainsaw felling burnt trees and were driving around people CLEARLY not residents, just driving around, looking and burnt houses and trees. People! seriously!! have some frikken respect! or even.....heaven forbid...common decency!
A lot to be said for impounding of vehicles and detaining of 'pests' in a state of emergency.  They are they equivalent of hon drivers, only the circumstances are different.
True, the police have far more important things to do in such circumstances, but the threat of such an outcome should keep such fekwits away.
SssA case of 'too many rules ' / 'nanny state'... Not in my opinion, and better than some outraged person affected by the disaster taking the law into their own hands.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Finners on January 30, 2013, 08:42:26 AM
Dramatic pics guys. I'm sure the locals could define anxiety, knowing it's creeping away so close to town, waiting for the next windy day to fan it.

Has any of this (ex)Oswald rain made it down to Vic? I take it no. Dorothea Mackellar sure nailed the description of this country of contrasts.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 30, 2013, 08:57:41 AM
Quote from: Finners
Has any of this (ex)Oswald rain made it down to Vic? I take it no. Dorothea Mackellar sure nailed the description of this country of contrasts.
what is this "rain" you speak of?
I've heard ancient legends of this "rain"....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 31, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
Hope this rain helps :(


http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1296534692.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1296534692.html)

Emergency Warning
Mount Hotham, Hotham Heights and Dinner Plain

Effective: 31/01/13 4:32 PM

Expires: 31/01/13 5:15 PM


Incident Information:

There is a large, fast moving bushfire in the Mount Hotham, Hotham Heights and Dinner Plain area. It is travelling in a south easterly direction.

This fire is expected to impact anytime within the next hour.
?This bushfire is approximately 4100 hectares in size and is out of control, currently creating spot-fires approximately 2-3km/s ahead.
?Relocation is not advisable.  If required head to the neighborhood safer place.   



What to do:
?Act immediately- you are in danger. There is a risk to lives and homes.
?Homes are not designed or constructed to withstand fire in these conditions.
?Leave now if it is safe to do so and there is a safer place nearby.
?Turn on your vehicle headlights and drive slowly; smoke will make it difficult to see.
?Consider shelter options close by. This may include a private bunker (that meets current regulations).
?Last resort options include a Neighbourhood Safer Place, a stationary car in a cleared area, a ploughed paddock or reserve or body of water like a swimming pool or dam.
?If you cannot leave the area take shelter when the fire arrives - protect yourself from the fire's heat.
?If you are away from home; do not return.
?If time permits, check your neighbours to see if they are monitoring conditions.
?If you are experiencing any symptoms that may be due to smoke exposure, the Department of Health advises people to seek medical advice or call Nurse on Call on 1300 606 024.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on January 31, 2013, 04:54:38 PM
Don't think the rain will reach them. Starting to look very bad on the ski cams. Supposed to be chance of snow the next couple of days though
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 31, 2013, 07:02:06 PM
According to 774 radio they have circled the snow making machinery and are using it to wet down the perimeter.  Apparently only about 20 at Hotham and they know what they are doing.
Hopefully their perimeter holds and they don't need to take to the dam.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 07, 2013, 10:03:22 AM
Looks like this one still has some burning to do.

http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/winds-set-to-fan-fires-as-mercury-climbs-20130207-2e00r.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/winds-set-to-fan-fires-as-mercury-climbs-20130207-2e00r.html)

 Latest hotspot data shows a fair few of them outside control lines.

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2013, 10:19:19 AM
Looks like this one still has some burning to do.

http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/winds-set-to-fan-fires-as-mercury-climbs-20130207-2e00r.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/winds-set-to-fan-fires-as-mercury-climbs-20130207-2e00r.html)

 Latest hotspot data shows a fair few of them outside control lines.
its interesting how it has disappeared out of the media...
There are still some big fires going... I suppose houses aren't burning down at the moment, so not "News" worthy :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2013, 01:42:17 PM
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Fire crews are battling to control large bushfires that have broken containment lines in the state’s east amid high temperatures.

The Aberfeldy fire, near Licola, north-east of Mount Baw Baw, became more active because of a north-westerly wind, a spokesman from the State Bushfire Control Centre said.

The fire broke the control lines and crews were mopping up to keep it in check, he said.

The Country Fire Authority expects that the fire will have an impact on the communities of Glenfalloch and Wollangarra until 2.30pm. Residents in those communities are urged to follow their bushfire survival plans.

The Heyfield-Licola Road is closed at the intersection with Glenmaggie Point Road.

Large plumes of smoke are visible through the region.

The Harrietville fire is burning in inaccessible countryside, the spokesman said, and aircraft were being used to control it.

The CFA advised that an area including the Great Alpine Road, Dargo High Plains Road, including Hotham Heights, Dinner Plain and the Wongungarra River, north of Dargo, was unsafe to enter, and anyone there should leave.

The Great Alpine Road is closed between Harrietville and Dinner Plain and the Dargo High Plains Road is closed between Dargo and Great Alpine Road.

Both fires were creating spot fires, where embers jump from the main fire and spark new blazes.

The spokesman said that although temperatures in the west of the state had dropped after a change in conditions, that change was not expected to reach the state’s east.

Fire crews will monitor the situation through the afternoon and night, he said

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/bushfire-bears-down-on-alpine-towns-20130207-2e09o.html (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/weather/bushfire-bears-down-on-alpine-towns-20130207-2e09o.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 07, 2013, 01:52:02 PM
Still a lot of heat in that one too.

i think the landgate sateliite stuff reloads every two hours or so. The Hotham fire image has certainly changed a little bit since I uploaded the first one this morning.

You can see the Australia wide view at:

http://firewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/landgate_firewatch_public.asp (http://firewatch.landgate.wa.gov.au/landgate_firewatch_public.asp)

Then click in the map on the spot where you want to zoom into.  its a bit slow, but pretty accurate.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2013, 02:04:46 PM
Quote from: Mace
Still a lot of heat in that one too.

i think the landgate sateliite stuff reloads every two hours or so. The Hotham fire image has certainly changed a little bit since I uploaded the first one this morning.

Sadly I think there is much poo going to happen yet but again not hearing much on it, and will hear less now with the shock news that there are drugs in sport.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 11, 2013, 11:49:50 AM
I cant believe these fires are still going...

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The fire has forced the cancellation of the Cool Summer Festival, scheduled for the weekend after next.

The Festival – featuring 21 bands including the four-sister band Stonefield, triple J Unearthed favourite Loon Lake and Melbourne duo Dune – announced the cancellation on Monday with ‘‘heavy hearts’’.

The organisers said a contigency plan to relocate the festival off the mountain ‘‘would not be possible due to the number of legal requirements and safety measures’’.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/music/festival-canned-as-alpine-fire-danger-spreads-20130211-2e73g.html#ixzz2KYEDIwlz (http://www.theage.com.au/entertainment/music/festival-canned-as-alpine-fire-danger-spreads-20130211-2e73g.html#ixzz2KYEDIwlz)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 13, 2013, 10:34:34 AM
I cant believe that the Harrietville fire is still a big concern!

There'll be no firewood there for 10 years!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 13, 2013, 11:01:31 AM
Gradually heading south.

Hope its over by Easter so we can get to Omeo via Hotham. Ive fitted a brake controller especially for the descents!



Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 13, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
Quote from: Mace
Gradually heading south.
Hope its over by Easter so we can get to Omeo via Hotham. Ive fitted a brake controller especially for the descents!

... at this rate I don't think it will be, theres some hot days coming up, then theres rain from next week for about a week on the long range.. hope its good rain.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: brickiematt on February 13, 2013, 12:34:41 PM
Gradually heading south.

Hope its over by Easter so we can get to Omeo via Hotham. Ive fitted a brake controller especially for the descents!

Would this fire be the cause of all the smoke over the eastern burbs today? Just heading home and can barely make out Mt Dandenong through the haze. Thought there may have been a fire up there?
The harrietville fire has been burning for a while now.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 13, 2013, 12:44:16 PM
Would this fire be the cause of all the smoke over the eastern burbs today?

Propbably smoke from the Licola/Heyfield area fires.

This morning at Benalla could barely see the Winton hills from work - about 10k's away.
Better than the 2003 Great Divide fires tho, couldnt see from one end of High St Mansfield to the other in the mornings!!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 13, 2013, 07:04:16 PM
Very Sad!

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/firefighters-killed-at-harrietville-fire-20130213-2ed55.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/firefighters-killed-at-harrietville-fire-20130213-2ed55.html)

Two firefighters have been killed while battling a bushfire near Harrietville, the Australian Workers Union says.

In a statement on Wednesday evening the AWU Victorian Secretary Cesar Melhem said two Department Sustainability and Environment firefighters had been killed in the line of duty.

Authorities are yet to confirm any deaths, with State Control Centre spokesman Gerard Scholten saying earlier there had been "a serious accident" on Wednesday afternoon among crews near Selwyn in Victoria's alpine region. But he said it was too early to comment on their condition.

"We just don't know," he said.
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"We have sent crews out there and an ambulance. I know there has been some wire copy about. But until we arrive at the scene we won't know what has happened."

In a statement the Department said it: "can confirm there has been a serious accident at the Harrietville – Alpine North fire. Police and ambulance are responding."

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said a falling tree hit a vehicle on the fire ground. She said police and other emergency services were having difficulty attending the scene on Wednesday night because of the mountainous terrain and the ongoing fire.

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 13, 2013, 09:06:54 PM
Very Sad!

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/firefighters-killed-at-harrietville-fire-20130213-2ed55.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/firefighters-killed-at-harrietville-fire-20130213-2ed55.html)

Two firefighters have been killed while battling a bushfire near Harrietville, the Australian Workers Union says.

In a statement on Wednesday evening the AWU Victorian Secretary Cesar Melhem said two Department Sustainability and Environment firefighters had been killed in the line of duty.

Authorities are yet to confirm any deaths, with State Control Centre spokesman Gerard Scholten saying earlier there had been "a serious accident" on Wednesday afternoon among crews near Selwyn in Victoria's alpine region. But he said it was too early to comment on their condition.

"We just don't know," he said.
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"We have sent crews out there and an ambulance. I know there has been some wire copy about. But until we arrive at the scene we won't know what has happened."

In a statement the Department said it: "can confirm there has been a serious accident at the Harrietville – Alpine North fire. Police and ambulance are responding."

A Victoria Police spokeswoman said a falling tree hit a vehicle on the fire ground. She said police and other emergency services were having difficulty attending the scene on Wednesday night because of the mountainous terrain and the ongoing fire.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on February 13, 2013, 09:21:06 PM
That's shocking stuff. I hope all these arsonists are reading this and feel like the low life scum they are.

RIP Troops :cheers:

BD
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on February 14, 2013, 06:20:12 PM
Harrietville fire was started by lightning.

But tragic loss of life, condolences to family, friends and those on the ground fighting the fires.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on February 14, 2013, 06:24:54 PM
Harrietville fire was started by lightning.

But tragic loss of life, condolences to family, friends and those on the ground fighting the fires.
Yes i know that's  the case but I was referencing the scumbags as they have started so many  >:(

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Kris on February 14, 2013, 06:36:51 PM
The CFA website has lit up like a xmas tree across the ranges after this storm that has passed through in the last few hours.  With a bit of luck there is some rain up there to put them out, and they don't take off in the coming days.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 15, 2013, 06:56:18 PM
Yep, I noticed a fire has started near Marysville on the Strickland Spur track. That is very rough country up there, I would hate to be driving a ute with a slip-on up that track.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on February 15, 2013, 07:57:31 PM
Fire at Narbethong as well, they were saying about 40-50 fires have started from lightning strikes in the last two days
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 16, 2013, 12:45:06 PM
Looks like Tomohawk hut may have burnt down
http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1322595275.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_1322595275.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 16, 2013, 01:13:17 PM
Yep, I noticed a fire has started near Marysville on the Strickland Spur track. That is very rough country up there, I would hate to be driving a ute with a slip-on up that track.
Last tiem I went up it about yr ago, it was overgrown to Shit.. and was very grippy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 16, 2013, 01:20:12 PM
At least 65 of the 353 bush and grass fires were started from lightning strikes between Thursday afternoon and Saturday morning. More thunder and lightning activity is expected later on Saturday, a State Control Centre spokeswoman said, and firefighters would be vigilant in watching for new fires.
 
Near to the 30,604-hectare Harrietville-Alpine fire, which remains out of control, 13 fires started overnight from lightning strikes. Four were contained but nine continue to blaze.
 
A home near to the Alpine region at Beechworth


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-fighters-on-lightning-watch-20130216-2ejgh.html#ixzz2L1ppTWMF (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-fighters-on-lightning-watch-20130216-2ejgh.html#ixzz2L1ppTWMF)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on February 16, 2013, 01:36:52 PM
Road block duties earlier this week on the Heyfield - Licola Road at the turn-off to Montana Camping area (just north of Paradise Valley). This pano was looking south towards Lake Glenmaggie. At this time the fire was at Burgoynes Gap area.

(http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb50/Elmer_5mf/Hanapano_zps297fbcbc.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: fuji on February 18, 2013, 02:50:40 PM
Out of control Vearings Rd Craigieburn heading towards Epping. Taken from my place miles away.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 18, 2013, 03:03:01 PM
Out of control Vearings Rd Craigieburn heading towards Epping. Taken from my place miles away.

Yea lady from work lives up that way and just farkt off home in a mad panic.. you could wait for her 1/2 way in the work car if ya like...


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The Hume Freeway has been closed until further notice due to an out of control grass fire on Melbourne’s north.
VicRoads said it had closed the Freeway from Sydney Road to Cooper Street until further notice while firefighters battle to control the blaze. Drivers are advised to use the Old Hume Highway as an alternative.

Three properties are under threat from a fast-moving grass fire in the Donnybrook area north of Melbourne, while homes are under threat from two out-of-control fires in the west of the state.

The Country Fire Authority has issued a "emergency warning" warning on the blaze that started near Donnybrook Road on Melbourne's northern fringe at 1.20pm.

Under this level alert, according to the CFA website, ‘‘there is a risk to lives and homes, follow your bushfire survival plan. If you plan to leave, or you are not prepared and there is a safer place near by, leave now if it is safe to do so.’’

The fire was described as being in the Wollert area north of Melbourne.

The CFA said the fire was travelling in a southerly direction towards Vearings Road, Craigieburn Road East and Epping Road and was ‘‘expected to impact immediately’’.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-threatens-properties-across-state-20130218-2emum.html#ixzz2LDwULdGC (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-threatens-properties-across-state-20130218-2emum.html#ixzz2LDwULdGC)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GGV8Cruza on February 18, 2013, 04:26:27 PM
We have smoke and ash landing on the house at the moment. Not good out there, keep safe

GG
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on February 18, 2013, 04:28:16 PM
We have smoke and ash landing on the house at the moment. Not good out there, keep safe

GG

You are a LONG way from the fire.  Not good!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 18, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
Out of control Vearings Rd Craigieburn heading towards Epping. Taken from my place miles away.


View from our veranda, listening on the scanner she's taken hold and is headed into suburbia.

(http://blkmav.com/stuff/craigfire.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Nomad on February 18, 2013, 08:04:04 PM
This is just crazy. Victoria burns whilst Queensland drowns. I wish we could send you fellas some rain. Stay safe people.

Nomad.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 18, 2013, 08:06:07 PM
This is just crazy. Victoria burns whilst Queensland drowns. I wish we could send you fellas some rain. Stay safe people.

Nomad.
and insurance jumps on the next rocket to mars.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Kit_e_kat9 on February 18, 2013, 08:13:29 PM


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Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: ozbogwam on February 18, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
The footage of the Donnybrook fire was amazing, the speed it was moving would have been terrifying on the ground.

Meanwhile the Grampians fire tripled in size overnight.

Let's hope the storms forecast for tomorrow don't bring more lightning striked
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 19, 2013, 09:00:54 AM
The footage of the Donnybrook fire was amazing, the speed it was moving would have been terrifying on the ground.

The majority of people will always under estimate the speed a fire can really go with the wrong conditions until they see it first hand.

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Meanwhile the Grampians fire tripled in size overnight.

:( so that trip is knackered 100% then :(

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Let's hope the storms forecast for tomorrow don't bring more lightning striked

Very grey here at Blackburn
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR022.loop.shtml (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR022.loop.shtml)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bobsan on February 19, 2013, 08:01:14 PM
We are down wind to the Grampians fire, smoke all day, visibility down to 1 mile, not good
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 21, 2013, 05:53:22 PM
We are down wind to the Grampians fire, smoke all day, visibility down to 1 mile, not good

More for you :( Be safe.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bushfire-threatens-farming-communities-20130221-2esg1.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/bushfire-threatens-farming-communities-20130221-2esg1.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 27, 2013, 01:54:30 PM
... Easter.

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One home has been lost and several more are under direct threat as a bushfire rages out of control in Victoria’s west.

The fire is burning 80 kilometres north-west of Geelong in the Dereel area, and is travelling in a southerly direction towards Corindhap and Barunah Plain North.

A State Bushfire Control Centre spokeswoman said the fire has spread to 150 hectares and although no official evacuation has yet occurred, the situation is being monitored closely, with 45 trucks and two aircraft on standby.

Country Fire Authority is warning residents to stay alert and check their bushfire plans.

The fire is expected to have an impact on Warrambine, Barunah Park and Corindhap within the next hour.

Kylie Ryan's family has a property in Dereel as well as land on Ferrers Road.

"My uncle's out there trying to get to the property at the moment, he's trying to get his two dogs and two cats out," she told the Ballarat Courier.

"He was in town this morning and didn't know about it.

"We tried to evacuate stock off the block in Dereel the other day because there was a fire warning.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/environment/home-lost-as-fire-rages-in-states-west-20130327-2gtk8.html#ixzz2Oi0lYYfU (http://www.theage.com.au/environment/home-lost-as-fire-rages-in-states-west-20130327-2gtk8.html#ixzz2Oi0lYYfU)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 13, 2014, 03:39:19 PM
Not going to be a good week. Hope people keep their wits about them and piss off early instead of waiting this season....

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AAP

An out-of-control grassfire could impact towns around the Trawalla area in central Victoria, fire authorities say.

An emergency warning has been issued for Brewster, Chepstowe, Mount Emu and Mena Park.

MORE TO COME
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 17, 2014, 12:36:01 PM
Looks like some f!@#wit has lit up the Hume Fwy again

Up to seven fires have started along the Hume Freeway between Wallan Rd and Craigieburn Rd ramp, Craigieburn. They are believed to be suspicious.

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html)

This is a Watch and Act message issued by Country Fire Authority for Donnybrook, Epping, Kalkallo, Lalor, Somerton, Roxburgh Park, Campbellfield, Craigieburn.

There are multiple fires along the Hume highway stretching from Beveridge towards the Metropolitan Ring Road.

These grassfire are currently not yet under control.


Stay safe Scarps and V8CRSA
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on January 17, 2014, 12:47:31 PM
Looks like some f!@#wit has lit up the Hume Fwy again

Up to seven fires have started along the Hume Freeway between Wallan Rd and Craigieburn Rd ramp, Craigieburn. They are believed to be suspicious.

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html)

This is a Watch and Act message issued by Country Fire Authority for Donnybrook, Epping, Kalkallo, Lalor, Somerton, Roxburgh Park, Campbellfield, Craigieburn.

There are multiple fires along the Hume highway stretching from Beveridge towards the Metropolitan Ring Road.

These grassfire are currently not yet under control.


Stay safe Scarps and V8CRSA
thnx D4D, I'm in Bris and not home til tonight. I've been watching all week and freaked a bit when the Darraweit Guim/Old Sydney Rd fire started late last night. Luckily still have two sons and nephew living at home and have the house fire ready.  Watching from afar, it appears all emergency services are quick to respond and act, so as to limit damage, but not helpful when idiots are at large......
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 17, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
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An emergency warning has been issued for a community in far-eastern Victoria as an out-of-control bushfire burns in the area.

The CFA says the fast-moving bushfire is travelling in a easterly direction towards Club Terrace, near Mallacoota.

Club Terrace and the surrounding area could be hit anytime within the next one to two hours, a warning message issued at 1.40pm (AEDT) on Friday says.

Spot fires and ember attacks are expected and leaving now is the safest option, the CFA says.

The Princes Highway between Orbost and Cann River is expected to close soon.

Relief centres have been set up in Orbost and Cann River.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Patr80l on January 17, 2014, 02:09:36 PM
We were staying in Halls Gap but came home last night. 
Today they evacuated the town.
We spent Wednesday driving through the areas now on fire, including Roses Gap where the death occurred.
My iPhone Fire-watch app was still monitoring that area last night while I was asleep in my own bed in Melbourne.
I was woken at 1.30am by an SMS warning for Wartook which was in my "Watch Area" advising it was too late to evacuate!
 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: areyonga on January 17, 2014, 02:16:27 PM
One dead in Wartook
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 17, 2014, 03:00:52 PM
amazing photos.

http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/2025778/gallery-2014-wimmera-fires-in-pictures/?cs=224#slide=26 (http://www.mailtimes.com.au/story/2025778/gallery-2014-wimmera-fires-in-pictures/?cs=224#slide=26)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on January 17, 2014, 09:50:58 PM
Looks like some f!@#wit has lit up the Hume Fwy again

Up to seven fires have started along the Hume Freeway between Wallan Rd and Craigieburn Rd ramp, Craigieburn. They are believed to be suspicious.

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2442798.html)

This is a Watch and Act message issued by Country Fire Authority for Donnybrook, Epping, Kalkallo, Lalor, Somerton, Roxburgh Park, Campbellfield, Craigieburn.

There are multiple fires along the Hume highway stretching from Beveridge towards the Metropolitan Ring Road.

These grassfire are currently not yet under control.


Stay safe Scarps and V8CRSA


Cheers Mate,

All good this end, brought back memories of last year sitting at work and watching the happenings both around home and campbellfield.
Was a little worrying to see the fire we had last night just over the hill from Scarps and us,we had 2 close calls last year in the same area.
My wife drove home through the fires along the hume today, and she said it looks like someone has gone out of their way to try and set the whole northern suburbs alight.
I really wish I could get my hands on these people lighting these fires.............they wouldn't do it again.

cheers Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 18, 2014, 06:02:02 AM
This year the CFA is using a pounce strategy on all scrub/grass fires . The 1st call 5 Tankers then keep them coming in groups of 5 till told to stand down . This puts a lot of units on the fire ground or in transit to . lts so much better to send them home 1/2 way there than to be overwhelmed & need more . Also there are choppers & planes on standby ready to Rock & Roll .Theres a lot of people working hard out there  , Stay Safe  :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 19, 2014, 02:01:04 PM
My wife drove home through the fires along the hume today, and she said it looks like someone has gone out of their way to try and set the whole northern suburbs alight.

Have to agree, I drove the Hume Fwy today and it sure looks like someone was lighting fires as they drove outbound.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 19, 2014, 06:00:12 PM
Missed this one in the High Country

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2452251.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2452251.html)

Issued For: Enochs Point, Jamieson, Karralika Heights, Kevington, Knockwood, Matlock, St Clair, Ten Mile, The Oaks, The Triangle, Taylor Bay, A1 Mine Settlement, Eildon, Gaffneys Creek, Woods Point, The Springs, Bonnie Doon, Lake Eildon
 
Fire Origin: 15 KM WNW MATLOCK

Incident Name: BIG RIVER - FRENCHMANS CREEK T

Issued: 19/01/14 6:30 PM

This Advice message is being issued by Department of Environment and Primary Industries for Enochs Point, Jamieson, Karralika Heights, Kevington, Knockwood, Matlock, St Clair, Ten Mile, The Oaks, The Triangle, Taylor Bay, A1 Mine Settlement, Eildon, Gaffneys Creek, Woods Point, The Springs, Bonnie Doon, Lake Eildon.

Firefighters are working in steep country on the bushfire  15 KM WNW MATLOCK . 

The fire has burnt 258 hectares and is not yet under control.  Fire is still active.

Control line construction and backburning operations have continued today.
This work has generated a significant level of smoke, which will be visible to surrounding communities. Residents may also smell smoke.

There is currently no threat to communities, but you should continue to stay informed and monitor conditions.

Campers along the Upper Big River Road have been advised to leave the area.

Motorists traveling in the area are urged to take additional care due to the increased presence of emergency vehicles, machinery and smoke.

Big River Road remains closed to all traffic except emergency vehicles between the Warburton-Woods Point Road, Cambarville and the Eildon-Jamieson Road.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on January 19, 2014, 09:14:22 PM
Missed this one in the High Country

http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2452251.html (http://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/warnings-and-advice/index.html?inUrl=websites_detail_2452251.html)

Issued For: Enochs Point, Jamieson, Karralika Heights, Kevington, Knockwood, Matlock, St Clair, Ten Mile, The Oaks, The Triangle, Taylor Bay, A1 Mine Settlement, Eildon, Gaffneys Creek, Woods Point, The Springs, Bonnie Doon, Lake Eildon
 
Fire Origin: 15 KM WNW MATLOCK

Incident Name: BIG RIVER - FRENCHMANS CREEK T

Issued: 19/01/14 6:30 PM

This Advice message is being issued by Department of Environment and Primary Industries for Enochs Point, Jamieson, Karralika Heights, Kevington, Knockwood, Matlock, St Clair, Ten Mile, The Oaks, The Triangle, Taylor Bay, A1 Mine Settlement, Eildon, Gaffneys Creek, Woods Point, The Springs, Bonnie Doon, Lake Eildon.

Firefighters are working in steep country on the bushfire  15 KM WNW MATLOCK . 

The fire has burnt 258 hectares and is not yet under control.  Fire is still active.

Control line construction and backburning operations have continued today.
This work has generated a significant level of smoke, which will be visible to surrounding communities. Residents may also smell smoke.

There is currently no threat to communities, but you should continue to stay informed and monitor conditions.

Campers along the Upper Big River Road have been advised to leave the area.

Motorists traveling in the area are urged to take additional care due to the increased presence of emergency vehicles, machinery and smoke.

Big River Road remains closed to all traffic except emergency vehicles between the Warburton-Woods Point Road, Cambarville and the Eildon-Jamieson Road.
Was keeping a close eye on his one whilst camping earlier this week.Had a bit of smoke haze that's it luckily.


BD
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Vk3bq on January 19, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/19/anu9a5ut.jpg)
grampians fire this afternoon from near dadswell bridge.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: evolution on January 19, 2014, 09:43:12 PM
So there seems to have been some sensationalism in regards to "Halls Gap Zoo" by the media in regards to these fires.
All in all I am just glad that all the animals and the people at the Zoo and surrounding neighbors are safe.
I still love going there.  ;D

(Copy and Paste from Halls Gap Zoo Facebook page)
 

""PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM THE OWNER

We would like to personally thank the public for their messages of support and well wishes during this stressful and difficult time. That being said we would like to clarify some of the issues raised by concerned people.
Most importantly in regards to the TV coverage of Greg (myself) saying that we would select certain animals and go to the safety of the dam.
We were asked by the CFA media controller during the evacuation meeting in Halls Gap to have the media out to the zoo to explain the plans in place at the Zoo. The four TV crews were here for over an hour during which time it was explained to them ON CAMERA that we had an extensive fire plan developed in conjunction with the CFA which included fire tracks, clearing around the perimeter fence of the property to aid in halting the advance of the fire and that all the animals, where needed, have cooling systems which includes having a generator placed down at the supply pump in the event of electricity being lost.
The question was asked if we had plans in place for the worst case scenario that if the fire was out of control in the Zoo what would happen. The response to this was in the unlikely event of this outcome happening and we had to flee to save human life we would take the most critically endangered species in vehicles down to the dam. To our utter dismay the media decided to edit this and portray this worst case scenario as our only fire plan.
I will never go out of my way to help the TELEVISION MEDIA out ever again as this was the most disgraceful case of sensationalism and lies you can imagine, while I was spending all this time with the media my time would have been much better spent with preparations but I was doing the CFA Media Division a favor.

At the time when the media was here on Friday we only had Allison and Jacinta feeding animals and checking water sprinklers etc, Yvonne handling the office and Greg taking the media around on the property as the other staff members had decided to leave due to their own personal fire plans and other staff members that did ring and offer to come out could not do so due to the road closures.
On the day and overnight we had 9 CFA fire trucks patrolling the property as well having a CFA quick fill pump set up at our dam for all the fire vehicles in the area to use to fill up if required. I had spent well over 40 minutes grading a track into the dam for the CFA to use on the day with our Caterpillar loader which was also offered to the CFA incident controller for use that day anywhere in the district for use in fire control.

Some people have questioned as to why we didn't evacuate the animals in the 4 hour window that we had from when the evacuation order was given.
Firstly if we did attempt to catch and box up these animals in 44 degree heat they would have died from heat stress.
Secondly how could we transport them out when the roads were closed by the police and as you all know the advice given is not to travel during a fire event.
Thirdly think seriously of the logistics, how would it even be remotely possible for 4 people to catch and move them and where would the animals go, the other zoos couldn't accept them for quarantine reasons.
Fourthly should I have forced the other staff members to stay against their wishes and then commit a crime by driving on potentially dangerous roads?
And most importantly we have a fire plan developed over many years and that has cost many $thousand to implement that, in this case, worked perfectly and will do so in the future.

There have been a lot of comments in regard to the zoo being located in a bushfire zone. The reason the zoo is successful is due to its beautiful location and can these people tell me where in Victoria there is a 100% safe location. This business has operated for 31 years and has never been directly impacted by a fire so just maybe it is in the correct place.

A big part of our day was also spent constantly patrolling the zoo watching out for ember attack and we had two vehicles equipped with fire carts/pumps to put out fires started by these as well as wet hessian sacks/buckets etc to smother them in case we couldn't get a vehicle close enough.

As I am writing this our neighbours from across the road just walked in to thank me for building a fire break around their home with earthmoving equipment on Friday, they were away in Melbourne at the time and have just arrived home to be surprised by the work that had been done in their absence by other neighbours and myself.

To have read the hate filled and negative comments posted about ourselves and our decisions is incredibly disheartening as between Yvonne, myself and our staff we have dedicated the past 6 years of our life to endangered species breeding and are fully committed to the welfare of both our animals and life on this planet in general.

We fund all of our conservation work out of our pockets and receive NO government funding.

Lastly rather than posting ill informed and judgmental postings why don't you offer support to people going through an incredibly stressful time and who could be faced with having to make heart wrenching decisions at a time that their own life could be under threat.

We cannot express enough our heartfelt gratitude to the CFA and DEPI fire crews who continue to fight these and other fires, as well as being incredibly proud of all of our dedicated staff.

Yours
Greg Culell""
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on January 19, 2014, 09:55:20 PM
From the CFA Site

Advice

Issued For: Licola, Tamboritha

Fire Origin: TAMBORITHA-CAREY RIVER area 15kms NE of Licola

Incident Name: TAMBORITHA - CAREY RIVER

Issued: 19/01/14 3:26 PM


This Advice message is being issued by Department of Environment and Primary Industries for Licola, Tamboritha.

 
The fire is currently 120 hectares in size.

  The Lake Tarli Karng walking track network is closed. Visitors should also stay away from tracks north of the Avon Wilderness area and the Mount Wellington to Millers Hut 4WD area.

There is currently no threat to communities, but you should continue to stay informed and monitor conditions.

Smoke may be visible from nearby communities and roads.

The next update is expected by 20/01/14 10:30 AM or as the situation changes.


Sarah
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on January 19, 2014, 10:17:29 PM
That's terrible. We head over Wellington a bit, hope it doesn't get to millers  :-[
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on January 19, 2014, 10:32:52 PM
I cut my teeth bush walking in that area.
Hope the huts at Tamboritha and in the vicinity, such as Kelly's, stay safe.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: achjimmy on January 19, 2014, 11:56:23 PM
Hope all the swaggers stay safe?  It's a very stressful time and it can go on for days. A lot of CFA guys were in our street last year, good professional crews.

Sad to see the media haven't improved any re the Halls Gap Zoo.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 11:56:18 AM
Hhmm, just received a fire warning for Mickelham and Gisbourne, go out the front and yep, there they are in the distance.  North westerly still gusting here.  Concern is when the souwester finally hits, guess which way they'll head........
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 11:57:57 AM
Yup, that has lit up the scanner, they're throwing everything at it, wind change will push it straight into you.

SW has just hit at my place.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on February 09, 2014, 12:06:03 PM
Hhmm, just received a fire warning for Mickelham and Gisbourne,

Just got a call from my partner.  The paddock next door to her Auntie and uncles Gisbourne property is alight.

I wish this wind would bugger off!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
Our neighbours just turned up with their BIL & SIL who have just been evac'd from their Mickelham property.
Wind started to swing a bit more to the west now.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 12:14:59 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/8ytuzeby.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/3emymese.jpg)

Where we're somewhat ok is that it's predominantly grassland between there and here. Just hoping it doesn't find it's way back into Dissa or Wombat SF's.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 12:19:32 PM
D4D - Warrandyte area just hit the screen. You guys be ok? Yell out if you need a hand.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 12:20:24 PM
Yeah at this stage we're ok, lot's of false alarms due to smoke from Mickleham.

Edit - just heard on scanner Mickleham fire has spotted into Beveridge, didn't hear the street.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on February 09, 2014, 12:33:25 PM
Anything further on the Dalrymple Rd ( Clarkefield) fire?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 12:37:56 PM

Yeah at this stage we're ok, lot's of false alarms due to smoke from Mickleham.

Edit - just heard on scanner Mickleham fire has spotted into Beveridge, didn't hear the street.
yep looking at it now
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 12:49:06 PM

Anything further on the Dalrymple Rd ( Clarkefield) fire?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/ega7atyv.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 12:51:10 PM
House and garage Cooinda Av Mickleham under direct threat
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on February 09, 2014, 12:55:41 PM
Fire has now crossed Donnybrook rd and heading for the shell servo

gordo350

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on February 09, 2014, 12:57:48 PM
I'm now dealing with an extremely fired up wife.

My stepdaughters father lives in Warrandyte. 1 block from the fire.  Its the stepdaughters weekend with her father, she got home late last night and went straight to her downstairs room.  Her father, his wife and 2 young children evacuated at lunch, but never bothered checking her bedroom!!!
Poor girl woke up to smoke everywhere and a deserted house and street.  She got hold of him and he went back an hour later got her, but thank god my wifes in Rosebud today because she is in kill mode...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
What a crap day
the craieburn fire burnt to within a few house of the retirement village were mun and dad live
just talking to him on the phone and rubber neckers where causing havoc
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on February 09, 2014, 01:14:41 PM
Are they OK now Brett?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Alan Loy on February 09, 2014, 01:18:54 PM
Any info on the Warrandyte fire  I have friends in North Ringwood who are deciding whether to evacuate
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 01:20:36 PM
Are they OK now Brett?
Yes mate they are fine
Bit of excitement for the old folk
 ;D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 01:21:47 PM
Any info on the Warrandyte fire  I have friends in North Ringwood who are deciding whether to evacuate

I can't get the Warrandyte region repeater from my place so I don't have any info.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 01:22:45 PM
Any info on the Warrandyte fire  I have friends in North Ringwood who are deciding whether to evacuate
they should be ok
tell them just to be ready
its moving away from them
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Alan Loy on February 09, 2014, 01:23:10 PM
Thanks anyway
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Alan Loy on February 09, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Thanks Brett
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 01:26:27 PM
There is a web scanner you can listen to
Google cfa stream and click on region 14
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 01:27:51 PM
There is a web scanner you can listen to
Google cfa stream and click on region 14
its a bit frantic at the moment
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
Try this for region 13 - Warrandyte fire
http://www.alexander.id.au/cfa/vfeast.asx (http://www.alexander.id.au/cfa/vfeast.asx)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on February 09, 2014, 01:29:34 PM
ABC Tv reporting 1 house gone in Warrandyte.


Just got a call from my partner.  The paddock next door to her Auntie and uncles Gisbourne property is alight.

I'm hearing that their neighbors house is gone. :'(


Resources being stretched.  Just been listening to Dorren CFA bluing with VicFire.  Dorren were sent to cover Diamond Creek as they are all out and VicFire telling them they must attend a house fire in Templestowe.

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 01:30:30 PM
Resources being stretched.  Just been listening to Dorren CFA bluing with VicFire.  Dorren were sent to cover Diamond Creek as they are all out and VicFire telling them they must attend a house fire in Templestowe.

Yeah heard that too, there's no appliances left in our area at the moment.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 01:42:40 PM
Old Sydney Road and Camerons Lane Beveridge fire impact imminent
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 01:57:06 PM

Old Sydney Road and Camerons Lane Beveridge fire impact imminent
yep
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 02:35:38 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/eme9u6u5.jpg)
Heading north up old Sydney Rd west of Wallan.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 09, 2014, 02:38:35 PM
Old Sydney Road and Camerons Lane Beveridge fire impact imminent

We have left home, packed the dogs and family in the cruiser but had to leave the camper behind.
Fingers crossed....

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 02:42:49 PM
View from Tulla Airport

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bf_9uypCAAAS4FK.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 02:43:06 PM

We have left home, packed the dogs and family in the cruiser but had to leave the camper behind.
Fingers crossed....
heading north east across the back of the chicken farm away from our places atm. 2 k's away
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/ve2y3e9e.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 02:46:35 PM
FYI Hume Fwy is closed both ways
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 09, 2014, 02:50:10 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/ve2y3e9e.jpg)

Can nearly see our house from up there.......stay safe mate.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 03:05:20 PM
3 huge 'Thunderbird Style' fire trucks just went past our place. Wind changed to a souEaster and Darraweit Guim now in it's path
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 03:17:02 PM
Cfa stream will cover most regions
its a web cfa radio scanner
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 03:27:58 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/usydu4eh.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 09, 2014, 03:33:50 PM
Is that old sydney road are you on the west side of wallan
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 03:37:38 PM

Is that old sydney road are you on the west side of wallan
yes, fire is heading north north west along old Sydney Rd. I'm on my house roof near top of Pretty Sally Hill on the west side of Hume Hwy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: miff on February 09, 2014, 07:03:39 PM
Stay safe guys. I'm in heathcote junction but mum and dad and my brother and sister are in wallan. Been watching it unfold all day. Some memory's no one wants to re-live. Lets hope for some rain in the coming weeks hey??
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 07:29:56 PM
Judging by the radio chatter it was pretty hectic out there today. Thumbs up to all the CFA crews for working their arses off :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 07:36:52 PM

Judging by the radio chatter it was pretty hectic out there today. Thumbs up to all the CFA crews for working their arses off :cup:
x2, big thanks
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: miff on February 09, 2014, 07:54:33 PM
And they do it all while there own homes are under threat. Truly amazing people.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 08:13:36 PM
Sounds like she's on the move again

Issued For: Beveridge, Darraweit Guim, Donnybrook, Kalkallo, Mickleham, Wallan

Fire Origin: MICKLEHAM
 
Incident Name: MICKLEHAM RD
 
Issued: 09/02/14 8:56 PM

This is an Emergency Warning issued by Country Fire Authority for Beveridge, Donnybrook, Kalkallo, Mickleham, Wallan, Darraweit Guim.

There is a fast moving, out of control grassfire travelling in a northerly direction  and has crossed Donnybrook Road and heading towards Beveridge, Donnybrook, Kalkallo,  Wallan and Darraweit Guim

You are in danger, act now to protect yourself.

It is too late to leave. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 08:22:24 PM
Yep, could be a long night
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 09, 2014, 08:43:36 PM
We got home from camping to evacuate. Got the animals out and am now sitting at a friend's house in barooga waiting to see if we still have a house. Hope others in the area got out ok.

Sent from somewhere on something with that tap thing

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 08:49:40 PM
Fire at the back of Beveridge north through to west of Kilmore has lit up again
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 08:51:07 PM
Yeah just saw the Kilmore alert go up, only saving grace is there is not much wind but dry grass and hill country she'll run hard.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 08:52:16 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/qeny9ypu.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 08:54:54 PM
The Hazelwood fire is going to be an issue if it gets close to the power station. That's 1/3 of VIC electricity generated there...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 09:07:12 PM
I did see some info that it had got ito one of the open cut mines.

Here's current pic looking west of Wallan.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/09/udy6avym.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 09, 2014, 09:09:41 PM
Wow mother nature at her angriest.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 09:16:11 PM
Can't believe the amount of people out driving to have a sticky. We're one road back from Darraweit Guim Road and the police obviously have it blocked. Busiest I've ever known passed our house.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Doweymex on February 09, 2014, 09:55:18 PM
Unconfirmed but explosions heard and seen from the open cut in Hazelwood. There was ABC tweet suggesting its true. Saw bombers going in there this afternoon on way home.
Also fire in the maryvale mill wood pile. Homes confirmed lost on outskirts morwell.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 09, 2014, 10:10:23 PM
Been at the Dalrymple road fire most of the day, saved a mates house and shed but he has lost everything else , 100 acres. Saved most of his cattle too,  had to put them in a paddock that we had just carted hay off, they got pretty hot feet but have come thru Ok, now we got no fences to keep them in. Good luck to everyone going thru it, it looks huge over Wallan , Kilmore way

macca

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 10:33:05 PM

Unconfirmed but explosions heard and seen from the open cut in Hazelwood. There was ABC tweet suggesting its true. Saw bombers going in there this afternoon on way home.
Also fire in the maryvale mill wood pile. Homes confirmed lost on outskirts morwell.
my sons just heard a news update that a power station near Morwell has been impacted by explosions as a result of the fires and some 35,000homes in Vic are now without power.  Anyone else confirm this?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: belial on February 09, 2014, 10:44:10 PM
Reported as two separate items, cfa report fire in the coal mine https://mobile.twitter.com/774melbourne/status/432468534879199232

And Sp Ausnet says 35k homes without power in Gippsland
https://mobile.twitter.com/774melbourne/status/432466785158168576

No direct relationship between the two reported, if Hazelwood was down it would be a lot more than 35k homes affected. Sounds like a distribution failure, either burnt lines or substations
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Doweymex on February 09, 2014, 10:46:03 PM
All power out from warragul/drouin to moe/parts of morwell Scarps
CFA now confirmed fire activity in the open cut.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: belial on February 09, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
In case anyone hasn't seen it, here is a link to an aerial photo of the mickleham fire taken earlier http://t.co/ohHD8KomG7 (http://t.co/ohHD8KomG7)

We have family just down the hill from scraps on the west of wallan, just hoping nothing makes it over the ridge .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Doweymex on February 09, 2014, 10:52:37 PM
No direct relationship between the two reported, if Hazelwood was down it would be a lot more than 35k homes affected. Sounds like a distribution failure, either burnt lines or substations

Yeah they think it's more line disruption rather than fire in the cut. Its not the station that's been affected, just the mine...at this stage.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 09, 2014, 10:59:07 PM

In case anyone hasn't seen it, here is a link to an aerial photo of the mickleham fire taken earlier http://t.co/ohHD8KomG7 (http://t.co/ohHD8KomG7)

We have family just down the hill from scraps on the west of wallan, just hoping nothing makes it over the ridge .
we've just had 15 fire trucks go past our front door to get to the fire. The wind has dropped and outside temp cooled, but there is a lot of land on fire.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 09, 2014, 11:16:52 PM
we've just had 15 fire trucks go past our front door to get to the fire. The wind has dropped and outside temp cooled, but there is a lot of land on fire.

There is 4 trucks at the end of our street and the road is blocked of there as well.
Was up at old syd road earlier and was talking to a Cfa volunteer and she was saying the daraweit guim primary school as well as several homes have gone down there.
There was one fire less than a km down the hill and heading for Kilmore and another travelling along old Sydney rd towards scraps and our homes.
It has slowed up now but keeps on flaring up,gunna be a sleepless night I think.
Hope everyone stays safe.

Cheers matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 10, 2014, 05:30:44 AM
Glad to hear you guys are somewhat ok

Cause reminiscent of Black Saturday...

To Melbourne’s north, properties in Mickleham and Craigieburn came under threat after a gum tree brought down a power line after midday.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 06:04:46 AM
All ok atm, but pretty hairy night. We just need to watch wind patterns now to make sure the swathe of fire doesn't jump east or west.
Wombat SF to the west, Dissa SF to the east.
Too close for comfort yesterday.

Current situation looks like this.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/pu2ebehu.jpg)(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/yhanapa3.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 10, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
I read it's 40km long, if a westerly gets up that'll turn into a 40km front :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 10, 2014, 06:49:24 AM
Just got back from my station , going to reform at Noon to redeploy . Depending on whats happening as to which direction . North or South
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 07:15:00 AM

I read it's 40km long, if a westerly gets up that'll turn into a 40km front :(
yep. Was going to fly interstate today, but going to hang around now.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on February 10, 2014, 07:37:33 AM
Just got home.  Been out all night at old Sydney rd wallan. Fire has burnt  40 ks but we had nearly 30 trucks knocking down that edge. Don't think it break out any time soon.  Its still burning freely to the north tho


gordo350

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: knoath on February 10, 2014, 07:37:54 AM
Stay safe guys... hoping it all fizzes out for you.
Things were getting a bit of a worry here, we had thick smoke from the Mickleham fire as it was heading SSE to Craigieburn... apart from a couple of blocks of houses there's nothing but 3Ks of very dry grass between us and Mickleham rd, lucky for us we got the wind change just in time.
That's a nasty front if the wind comes in from the West...

Again, stay safe.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on February 10, 2014, 07:38:25 AM
How's barnawatha speewa

gordo350

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 08:01:47 AM

Just got home.  Been out all night at old Sydney rd wallan. Fire has burnt  40 ks but we had nearly 30 trucks knocking down that edge. Don't think it break out any time soon.  Its still burning freely to the north tho


gordo350
thnx gordo, appreciate everyone's hard work
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 10, 2014, 08:52:16 AM
Wow mother nature at her angriest.
Its that time of the month
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 09:15:13 AM
North of Shepparton, towards Katatamite and Cobram in the north of the state another hot spot for anyone in that area atm.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 10, 2014, 11:02:21 AM
North of Shepparton, towards Katatamite and Cobram in the north of the state another hot spot for anyone in that area atm.

We evacuated last night but thankfully just got home after the roads reopened no damage. Nothing burned at our place, but plenty of paddocks burned around. At this stage I have only heard reports of sheds burned and no houses. Fingers crossed that is the case.

Sent from somewhere on something with that tap thing

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 11:30:28 AM
Mickleham Fire at back of Wallan picked up again driven by southerly wind(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/y8enyqan.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 10, 2014, 11:33:56 AM
Our tanker is up North of Shep somewhere doing its job . Relay crews from where ever might be home in a week or so  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 10, 2014, 11:38:06 AM
Quote from: speewa158
Our tanker is up North of Shep somewhere doing its job . Relay crews from where ever might be home in a week or so  :cheers:
It sometimes took a few hours to get used to other trucks when you were on a commitment ... remember a Tassie crew working on our tanker once down Picton way, they were blown away we had BA Units on the truck LMAO!`
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 10, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
Mickleham Fire at back of Wallan picked up again driven by southerly wind(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/y8enyqan.jpg)


You in any danger there?

Sent from somewhere on something with that tap thing

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 10, 2014, 12:29:16 PM
Warrandyte :(

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/s526x296/1622758_10203370045997199_1086233722_n.jpg)
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 12:39:58 PM
You in any danger there?

Sent from somewhere on something with that tap thing
very possible, our biggest issue atm will be embers dropping into yards and gardens, or out of control grass fires being blown by a west or sou'west wind into the back of our neighbours who back onto the farmland.

Actually the bigger issue is potentially getting run over by rubber neckers
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 01:03:55 PM
And Elvis has arrived. Currently sucking the neighbours dams dry.(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/2yza4ema.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: achjimmy on February 10, 2014, 01:21:27 PM
Stay safe all. Flew over the area this morning but didn't see anything, cooler day here today so hopefully a bit of relief for the crews.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 10, 2014, 02:30:21 PM
Are you still there scarps? Or have you evacuated
Brooke
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
Are you still there scarps? Or have you evacuated
Brooke
hi Brooke,
swmbo, 2 x adult sons and I still here atm, but cars/trailers/CT packed hooked up and ready to go.
Police have evacuated Hanson Rd behind us and we suspect a house or two on old Sydney Rd have gone up.
Currently seeing a side of Elvis I never wanted to see.
Big thanks to all the firies, doing a great job.
If you know anyone in Kilmore, pray as it doesn't look good to our north.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/4ymajate.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/7u9yjaba.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 10, 2014, 03:14:36 PM
Will do thank you, stay safe
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 10, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
My mates place north of kilmore near High Camp wast impacted in the early hours this morning
They managed to save the house and shed but all else is gone
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/10/vadabuqa.jpg)
Puts a bit of perspective to what's happened last 36hrs.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 10, 2014, 04:45:57 PM
Take it easy scarps. Fingers crossed for everyone effected. The fire at ours got as close as out mail box about 700 metres up the road next to the neighbours.

Don't understand what is wrong with these rubber neckers, how about letting the CFA have a clear run on the roads?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on February 10, 2014, 05:10:28 PM
...Don't understand what is wrong with these rubber neckers, how about letting the CFA have a clear run on the roads?

Totally agree.  Even for those of us with property near-by, no point in clogging the roads to get there.
Not my primary residence, so just keeping out of the way of those with a job to do.  If my place goes then lots of people are in deep sh!t.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 10, 2014, 05:31:50 PM
You OK Scarps?

6.10PM: FIVE more homes have been destroyed on Wallan Heights Road in the last hour as stretched CFA crews struggle to deal with a fast moving grassfire there.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on February 10, 2014, 05:57:54 PM


I just saw this on facebook & thought someone here might have seen them.     

Sarah


Victorian Lost Pet Register

LOST - HORSES - VIC FIRES

 PLEASE SHARE

 I have no idea where to share this so please do in any groups you might think beneficial... 19 racehorses were let out of a property that burnt on old Sydney Rd. The property backs near Donnybrook Rd and can be seen through Gunns Gully Rd, Kalkallo. They include 4 broodmares in foal 3 foals at foot a stallion and little chestnut wearing a wind sucking collar. The owner has flagged me down and obviously very distraught if you know of these horses whereabouts or anyone who has seen them please contact me on  0407 603 238 .



Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 10, 2014, 06:13:17 PM
Any Swaggers in evacuation  that can make their way to Nagambie l have 3 Queen  beds  Call 0412158001 .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 10, 2014, 06:24:02 PM
Any Swaggers in evacuation  that can make their way to Nagambie l have 3 Queen  beds  Call 0412158001 .

Love your work speewa.

If anyone needs a hand let me know. I can't offer a bed, but can deliver some hay to animals if needed.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 10, 2014, 06:33:21 PM
Ho yer got a CT as well     8)
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 06:59:17 PM
You OK Scarps?

6.10PM: FIVE more homes have been destroyed on Wallan Heights Road in the last hour as stretched CFA crews struggle to deal with a fast moving grassfire there.
thnx Jamie, swmbo, sons and I still at home, but I have now moved the Jeep and Trackabout down to a mates place so one less thing to worrybout.

There's current 5 helo's nearby intense water bombing the ridge of Pretty Sally. I have no doubt homes have been lost today.

We still consider ourselves safe atm but are packed and ready to head down to the main town area if needed
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brumbypt on February 10, 2014, 07:18:46 PM
if anyone wants to store campers trailers etc.. then they can come here..
at Alexandra

msg me..


Peter,
iPad with IOS 7.0.4 using Tapatalk HD
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
All very eerie and quiet calm here in Wallan now. Suspect not so calm up toward Kilmore
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on February 10, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Any Swaggers in evacuation  that can make their way to Nagambie l have 3 Queen  beds  Call 0412158001 .

 :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on February 10, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
All very eerie and quiet calm here in Wallan now. Suspect not so calm up toward Kilmore

Fingers crossed for you mate.

Our watch and act has been downgraded now. I hope that is as close as we ever get...

Offer still stands though if someone needs some animals fed let me know.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 10, 2014, 08:57:06 PM
Just in from the day after, we have got the stock (and half the neighbours) safe and with feed and water, this is about as close as I want to come

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0605_zps978bebc7.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0605_zps978bebc7.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0576_zpsea3aaf9c.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0576_zpsea3aaf9c.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0570_zpsda3fc4dc.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0570_zpsda3fc4dc.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0577_zps419f7e94.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0577_zps419f7e94.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0610_zpsa83c7e27.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0610_zpsa83c7e27.jpg.html)

and this was our savior, the old girls done a lot of work in the last two days

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0599_zps57b85eee.jpg~original)
 (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0599_zps57b85eee.jpg.html)

this was the only building on the property we lost, saved the car tho

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0564_zps41e4b6cc.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0564_zps41e4b6cc.jpg.html)

the big cloud on the right is looking over towards Scarps way yesterday afternoon

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0581_zpse66d872b.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0581_zpse66d872b.jpg.html)

Scarps, we had similar views of Elvis yesterday, to busy to take photos, sorry about the quality only had my phone with me
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 08:57:11 PM

Fingers crossed for you mate.

Our watch and act has been downgraded now. I hope that is as close as we ever get...

Offer still stands though if someone needs some animals fed let me know.
thnx, define animals:-) nah we're all good, fed the boys instant noodles.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 10, 2014, 10:38:03 PM
Certainly has been a few interesting days,not good watching other peoples homes go up in smoke from your own front yard.
I'm hoping the worst is now behind us.
Sounded like a Vietnam war movie around here this afternoon with all the choppers buzzing around.

Cheers Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 10:54:22 PM
Thnx macca, glad to hear you're all safe. Great pics and a timely reminder to all, you can never be too prepared and keep yards and gardens tidy, particularly in summer.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 10, 2014, 10:57:14 PM

Certainly has been a few interesting days,not good watching other peoples homes go up in smoke from your own front yard.
I'm hoping the worst is now behind us.
Sounded like a Vietnam war movie around here this afternoon with all the choppers buzzing around.

Cheers Matt
matt, they were intense water bombing the Pretty Sally ridge behind the transmission and repeater towers. Can't believe how it went from manic activity to serenity in the space of 1/2hour. Still no red or orange glow visible, but the smoke is blowing across the ridge now and a reminder it's still out there.

Hoping everyone in Bylands and Kilmore are safe.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: knoath on February 11, 2014, 12:14:05 AM
(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0581_zpse66d872b.jpg~original)
S*#t!!! That looks worse than I thought... Hope you guys are all OK North of us (Crazyburn)... if any of you need somewhere to store belongings or trailers, we don't have a heap of room, but please ask... I'll do what I can to help.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 11, 2014, 02:20:48 AM
& then comes the recovery Whos up for a few Ks of fencing to help the farmers back  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 11, 2014, 04:50:12 AM
Certainly has been a few interesting days,not good watching other peoples homes go up in smoke from your own front yard.
I'm hoping the worst is now behind us.
Sounded like a Vietnam war movie around here this afternoon with all the choppers buzzing around.

Cheers Matt


The house on the property next door and the one accross the road were lost but they saved countless houses in the valley below us, when talking to people  the first thing they talk about is the relief  when the water bombers appear over their heads when they have just about exhausted all other options to save their houses

macca

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 11, 2014, 06:33:12 AM
Elvis was buzzing around over head yesterday, I managed to snap a few photos after the threat had eased for us.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/hzj105t/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-02/BB26902F-EC57-45E6-B9C8-CF29FEA66D1B.jpg) (http://s99.photobucket.com/user/hzj105t/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-02/BB26902F-EC57-45E6-B9C8-CF29FEA66D1B.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 11, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
Quote from: speewa158
& then comes the recovery Whos up for a few Ks of fencing to help the farmers back  :cheers:
have done every other year... Sie3ra Jim on here was the regional coordinator for 4wd Vic.. usually called him before he called me.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 11, 2014, 07:22:48 AM
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-10/victoria-fires-chintin-mother-shelters-children-in-dam/5250208 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-10/victoria-fires-chintin-mother-shelters-children-in-dam/5250208)

A mother of three young children has told how she was forced to shelter with them in a dam after being caught on their property by one of the biggest of the Victorian bushfires
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 11, 2014, 08:57:35 AM
This just uploaded onto the CFA site.
Assuming it's current, then all praise to the firies if they've managed to halt it west of the northern Hwy.
SW winds kicking up now and predicted most of the day which is both good and bad. At least it won't head west if not contained......(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/11/vy2uzugy.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 11, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
Helo's circling overhead again atm. L
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on February 11, 2014, 04:49:02 PM
It will take a week to blackout up there
Fingers crossed there isn't a north westerly wind in the next few days
 :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on February 11, 2014, 07:00:38 PM
QUOTE "Elvis was buzzing around over head yesterday, I managed to snap a few photos after the threat had eased for us."

Elvis has left the building. He was dismantled last year. We have Malcolm this year. I know, not such a catchy name but far out !!! where would we be without him.
I'm back up there again tomorrow and fair dinkum, if we don't put it out I'm not playing anymore. I've had enough of this bastard
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 11, 2014, 07:37:31 PM
Makes you feel a bit better when these are parked just down the road, the boys from NSW and ACT , been out most of the day up Kilmore way

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0626_zpseb91dc99.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0626_zpseb91dc99.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0627_zpsc8d98abb.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0627_zpsc8d98abb.jpg.html)

pretty impressive watching them come back in formation and land
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 11, 2014, 08:35:53 PM

Makes you feel a bit better when these are parked just down the road, the boys from NSW and ACT , been out most of the day up Kilmore way

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0626_zpseb91dc99.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0626_zpseb91dc99.jpg.html)

(http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii382/macca_04/IMAG0627_zpsc8d98abb.jpg~original) (http://s549.photobucket.com/user/macca_04/media/IMAG0627_zpsc8d98abb.jpg.html)

pretty impressive watching them come back in formation and land
these are the Helo's that have been working our ridgeline with Malcolm.  Pretty impressive units in action.

Looks like we're through the worse for now, but roads behind us still closed and you need an official wristband to confirm you are a local resident or police won't let you through.
Power still out in our area, but on 200m down the street.  We're hearing another 2 or 3 days till power restored. Tomorrow the clean up begins.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Mace on February 11, 2014, 08:40:37 PM
^^^^^^^

Aha, there's proof, a first attack X Trail waiting to be dispatched!

They can take on anything.

 :cheers:

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GGV8Cruza on February 11, 2014, 08:42:47 PM
^^^^^^^

Aha, there's proof, a first attack X Trail waiting to be dispatched!

They can take on anything.

 :cheers:

Good spotting, I am sure a chair is in the shot somewhere as well  >:D >:D

GG
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on February 11, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
^^^^^^^

Aha, there's proof, a first attack X Trail waiting to be dispatched!

They can take on anything.

 :cheers:
LOL  :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 11, 2014, 09:38:30 PM
^^^^^^^

Aha, there's proof, a first attack X Trail waiting to be dispatched!

They can take on anything.

 :cheers:

Think he was delivering pizzas  :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on February 11, 2014, 09:41:39 PM
^^^^^^^

Aha, there's proof, a first attack X Trail waiting to be dispatched!

They can take on anything.

 :cheers:

Lol, don't see a challenger there do ya pmsl
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 11, 2014, 09:47:13 PM

Good spotting, I am sure a chair is in the shot somewhere as well  >:D >:D

GG
one of the pilots has it. Sitting back, chillin out!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 11, 2014, 10:34:56 PM
one of the pilots has it. Sitting back, chillin out!

....... eating pizza, I let him know it looked like the mswag missing chair, he said he would drop it on your bloody head tomorrow, his words not mine >:D>:D>:D

macca

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: kylarama on February 12, 2014, 06:05:35 AM
Great to hear others are okay and the kind offers of help. :cheers:



Just got a call from my partner.  The paddock next door to her Auntie and uncles Gisborne property is alight.


Close call for the relo's.  Here's an aerial shot of how close it was.

(http://images.theage.com.au/2014/02/10/5146808/1_defcon-thmub-20140210122920668709-620x0.jpg)

One of the local CFA vol's dropped into their place yesterday to check up.  1 truck and 5 blokes defended their house until they ran out of water.  One of the blokes spent nealy the whole time at the back of the house with a hand sprayer keeping the flames away from the 2 dogs lock in the pen.  Dogs okay and other than a few scorched posts the house is all good.

As always the CFA guys and gals excel themselves. :cup:

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 12, 2014, 06:50:51 AM
Great to hear others are okay and the kind offers of help. :cheers:



Close call for the relo's.  Here's an aerial shot of how close it was.

(http://images.theage.com.au/2014/02/10/5146808/1_defcon-thmub-20140210122920668709-620x0.jpg)

One of the local CFA vol's dropped into their place yesterday to check up.  1 truck and 5 blokes defended their house until they ran out of water.  One of the blokes spent nealy the whole time at the back of the house with a hand sprayer keeping the flames away from the 2 dogs lock in the pen.  Dogs okay and other than a few scorched posts the house is all good.

As always the CFA guys and gals excel themselves. :cup:


Good to hear they are OK, are they out Red Rock way? Copped it pretty hard thru there. Gives you a bit of a chance when its open around the house like at your relos, the property next to where we were, very old house hidden in trees, the first drop from the water bomber collapsed the roof and that was all she wrote

macca

Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 12, 2014, 07:08:19 AM
....... eating pizza, I let him know it looked like the mswag missing chair, he said he would drop it on your bloody head tomorrow, his words not mine >:D>:D>:D

macca
now you mention it, I think I saw it strapped to one of the landing skids as he flew overhead 15 or 20 times.

On a serious note, a big thanks to the myswaggers that offered food, shelter, fridges, gennies and other general advice the last few days. While predominantly an online group, it just goes to show the great spirit of the forum.

As we've come through unscathed, I'm having a 1/2 a pallet of general pharmacy products boxed up and delivered here and I'll drop these off to the relief centres in Wallan and Kilmore today. Just hope the courier doesn't go MIA.

Thnx again to a great forum.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 12, 2014, 06:45:18 PM
a conduit to Aussie at work       :cup:      :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 14, 2014, 11:22:28 AM
mine fire in Gippsland...(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mine.fire.2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: crappsy on February 14, 2014, 11:34:46 AM
Once those seams light up then there's not much point using water really, hope it does not come to that. 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brumbypt on February 15, 2014, 03:07:42 PM
I heard or saw on the net on one of the news sites that these fires are a proof of climate change.

but that doesnt explain the 1939 bush fires and we had similar fires to the kilmour fires back in 1969 in our local area.

and there has been several major fires between those dates and before the 39 fires.


Peter,
iPad with IOS 7.0.4 using Tapatalk HD
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: crappsy on February 15, 2014, 06:05:09 PM
I heard or saw on the net on one of the sites that these fires are a proof of climate change

I'd call bs on that Climate change is an ever occurring process both hot and cold. An increase or decrease in fire activity in a fire prown are over a few hundred year is very inconclusive in my opinion. Othere may and probably disagree.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on February 15, 2014, 07:53:24 PM
I'm sure others will try to shoot me down in flames but the truth is fires are getting worse and winters are getting colder.  After black Saturday I spoke to an ex fire captain who described 1939 black Friday as a powder puff compared to 2009. Thats real world observation.  Not science.  I have also just spent 3 days  trying to catch a  grass fire that simply  out ran coz the fuel was just too dry even after a decent spring.
launch the popcorn

gordo350
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 15, 2014, 08:01:39 PM
Are the fires actually worse today, or is the impact on where we now live, and our ability to report/record them more the issue?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 15, 2014, 08:18:58 PM
Once those seams light up then there's not much point using water really, hope it does not come to that.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-will-burn-through-victorias-antarctic-cold-snap-20140215-32skq.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-will-burn-through-victorias-antarctic-cold-snap-20140215-32skq.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on February 16, 2014, 07:55:31 AM
Are the fires actually worse today, or is the impact on where we now live, and our ability to report/record them more the issue?

I think the fires are worse today for 2 reasons,

1. fuel loadings on the ground, which can be reduced where needed, except govt tape slows that down
2. People and housing.  With population growth, it will always seem like a fire is worse, in perspective, a fire goes through an area in 1960, big fire, but destroys only bush, same size fire goes through same area in 2010, and destroys the 7 houses that are scattered through the bush with 3 people losing there life's, including 1 firefighter trying to save those houses. Which fire looks worse?

Has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with us and living in Australia.

My 2c  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 16, 2014, 08:06:12 AM

I think the fires are worse today for 2 reasons,

1. fuel loadings on the ground, which can be reduced where needed, except govt tape slows that down
2. People and housing.  With population growth, it will always seem like a fire is worse, in perspective, a fire goes through an area in 1960, big fire, but destroys only bush, same size fire goes through same area in 2010, and destroys the 7 houses that are scattered through the bush with 3 people losing there life's, including 1 firefighter trying to save those houses. Which fire looks worse?

Has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with us and living in Australia.

My 2c  :cheers:
yup, that's where my head is at too.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: achjimmy on February 16, 2014, 08:12:05 AM
yup, that's where my head is at too.

Concur. Certainly red tape has tied up back burning here. Each year for the last 4-5 yrs the crews have done 10-15% of what they wanted to do.


Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 16, 2014, 08:45:56 AM
I think the fires are worse today for 2 reasons,

1. fuel loadings on the ground, which can be reduced where needed, except govt tape slows that down
2. People and housing.  With population growth, it will always seem like a fire is worse, in perspective, a fire goes through an area in 1960, big fire, but destroys only bush, same size fire goes through same area in 2010, and destroys the 7 houses that are scattered through the bush with 3 people losing there life's, including 1 firefighter trying to save those houses. Which fire looks worse?

Has nothing to do with climate change, and everything to do with us and living in Australia.

My 2c  :cheers:

X2

Hit the nail right on the head

macca

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on February 16, 2014, 11:19:45 AM
Concur. Certainly red tape has tied up back burning here. Each year for the last 4-5 yrs the crews have done 10-15% of what they wanted to do.

I joined the my vic rfs in 1990, and it was hard then trying to get back burning done. Then when you finally got the approval. It would **ss down rain for 3 days before and the bloody thing wouldn't burn.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on February 17, 2014, 03:18:56 PM
mine fire in Gippsland...(http://www.gupatrol.com/crapola/mine.fire.2014.jpg)

That is the mine where I work. I have spent the last 8 days there on 12-14hr shifts and today is my first day off.
This fire is going to burn for a while yet. it is burning at temps in excess of 400deg.
It is on the old part of the mine and not effecting mine operations but if the wind changes direction that could change.
There are people from all agencies there CFA, MFB, AV, Red Cross, SES, Contractors and many more.
Still lots of work to be done.
Back to work on Wednesday I think but I will see what happens.
Regards
Crispy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 17, 2014, 07:14:50 PM

That is the mine where I work. I have spent the last 8 days there on 12-14hr shifts and today is my first day off.
This fire is going to burn for a while yet. it is burning at temps in excess of 400deg.
It is on the old part of the mine and not effecting mine operations but if the wind changes direction that could change.
There are people from all agencies there CFA, MFB, AV, Red Cross, SES, Contractors and many more.
Still lots of work to be done.
Back to work on Wednesday I think but I will see what happens.
Regards
Crispy
hey Crispy, out of interest, how do you put these fires out?  Assume they start to burn inside the ground. How do you cut the oxygen it needs?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: crappsy on February 17, 2014, 07:23:37 PM
Scarps,
Places I have been have used liquid nitrogen injected into the seam goaf (mine void) combined with mass concrete, to mixed results.
Spontaneous combustion with spoil piles are usually turned over to remove the heat, to the best of my knowledge. Others will know better than me.
Crappsy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on February 18, 2014, 07:07:35 AM
hey Crispy, out of interest, how do you put these fires out?  Assume they start to burn inside the ground. How do you cut the oxygen it needs?
Well I am glad you asked.
The process is wet stuff on hot stuff and plenty of it.
At the moment it is surface burning but it may find its way into a crack and burn in. At that stage all we can do is try to cool it and then cap it with clay. Then every so often smoke will start again so more wet stuff on that then more clay on top. We have a couple of spots in the mine where this happens every 5 years or so.
Regards
Crispy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on February 18, 2014, 08:03:53 AM
Thnx for the info, appreciated.

Btw, what's with you two? Crispy and Crappsy? You brothers:/)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on February 18, 2014, 08:07:30 AM
Thnx for the info, appreciated.

Btw, what's with you two? Crispy and Crappsy? You brothers:/)
Don't know him/her. So guessing not related.
Crispy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: crappsy on February 18, 2014, 10:02:14 AM
Last i check we weren't related.
Just must be both good looking guys with great forum names.
 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on February 18, 2014, 11:14:34 AM
Last i check we weren't related.
Just must be both good looking guys with great forum names.
And both have a good choice of vehicles!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: crappsy on February 18, 2014, 11:20:05 AM
And both have a good choice of vehicles!
  :cup:;D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Azz on February 18, 2014, 11:23:51 AM

The process is wet stuff on hot stuff and plenty of it.


There was a bloke on ABC Gippsland explaining whats happening with this fire, I had to laugh when he was asked how they were going to put out the fires and he said,

"The wet stuff on the red stuff"

Sounds so easy when you put it like that.

He went on to explain that you are using high pressure hoses? The way he was speaking they are higher pressure than regular CFA tanker pressure.

The tankers were supply the water for these pumps. Is this correct?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on February 18, 2014, 01:35:54 PM
The reticulated water supply around the mine is at a pressure of 725 to 1600 psi (105 to 232 kpa)
I have no idea how much pressure the pumpers and pumper tankers can put out. I do know that some of the telebooms are being boosted and simply because we are using so much water the pressure is lower than normal during this time. We have new mains going in which will deliver about 500l per second which to put it in another way if you stood at the outlet of the pipe for one second you would get very wet ;D.
It will take a long time to get on top of this fire and I am thankful for the efforts that everyone is putting in especially the volunteers who continue to give up their private time to help out and work along side people who are getting paid to be there.
As a Vol myself in SES I know the commitment these people give is for free but not for nothing.
Regards
Crispy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 25, 2014, 05:45:03 PM
FFS this really annoys me

Vic mine blaze arsonist lit test fires
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/chief-sticks-to-vic-mine-fire-timetable/story-e6frfku9-1226837055239 (http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/chief-sticks-to-vic-mine-fire-timetable/story-e6frfku9-1226837055239)

Chief Commissioner Ken Lay said police believe the same person or persons lit a test fire in Hazelwood on January 28 to see how the fire would act before setting another in the same area on the morning of Sunday February 9.

The arsonist then set three fires on the Strzelecki Highway at Driffield, near Morwell, around 1.30pm on the Sunday, which spotted into the Hazelwood open-cut coal mine and continues to burn.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 21, 2014, 01:58:50 PM
A fast-moving and out-of-control bushfire is threatening the Victorian town of Healesville, north east of Melbourne.

The CFA has issued an emergency warning for the area and advised residents that it is too late for them to leave and to take shelter indoors immediately.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/out-of-control-bushfire-heads-towards-healesville-20140321-357j9.html#ixzz2wZB16thW (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/out-of-control-bushfire-heads-towards-healesville-20140321-357j9.html#ixzz2wZB16thW)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on March 21, 2014, 02:01:43 PM

A fast-moving and out-of-control bushfire is threatening the Victorian town of Healesville, north east of Melbourne.

The CFA has issued an emergency warning for the area and advised residents that it is too late for them to leave and to take shelter indoors immediately.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/out-of-control-bushfire-heads-towards-healesville-20140321-357j9.html#ixzz2wZB16thW (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/out-of-control-bushfire-heads-towards-healesville-20140321-357j9.html#ixzz2wZB16thW)
Ouch!!! not a great area for a fire atm.  Not sure about you but it's raining here in the north of Melbourne, hopefully they get some of that.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 21, 2014, 03:29:41 PM
Ouch!!! not a great area for a fire atm.  Not sure about you but it's raining here in the north of Melbourne, hopefully they get some of that.
another at Woodonga.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarps on April 01, 2014, 03:56:20 PM
C'mon, it's nearly winter and there's been 2 fire scares in 2 days!

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/6e5yzu7e.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 16, 2014, 01:01:29 PM
Firefighters are working to contain a 170-hectare grass fire moving towards the Victorian border city of Wodonga before expected strong wind gusts and worsening conditions later on Tuesday.

More than 30 Country Fire Authority crews and seven aircraft are fighting the blaze as Victoria faces its worst bushfire danger since February.

Police are doorknocking houses in West Wodonga and a "watch and act" warning has been issued as the grass fire moves from Black Range Road towards the city's urban fringe.

Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Scott Williams said at 12.30pm that the wind was starting to pick up, but the real risk of the fire reaching homes was expected before a cold front due about 7pm.

Fire crews could face wind gusts about 70-80km/h, with possible maximum gusts up to 95km/h, as the cold front approached and passed between 5pm and 9pm, he said.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grass-fire-moves-towards-wodonga-as-state-faces-bushfire-danger-20141216-1282n7.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grass-fire-moves-towards-wodonga-as-state-faces-bushfire-danger-20141216-1282n7.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on December 16, 2014, 01:18:59 PM
stay safe guys
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 02, 2015, 01:58:14 PM
hideous weather to be anywhere neare a fire

Quote
An emergency bushfire warning has been issued for Moyston and Rocky Point, near Ararat and Halls Gap, in Victoria's west.

Residents have been warned the fast-moving, out of control grassfire could reach the town of Moyston by 2pm.

The fire is travelling in a south-easterly direction from Better Route Road towards the town, which has a population of about 400 people.
 
Residents have been advised to seek shelter indoors, as it is too late to leave the area.



"You are in danger, act now to protect yourself. It is too late to leave. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately," the Country Fire Authority said.

A relief centre has been set up at the Ararat Town Hall on the corner of Barkley and Vincent streets.
 
Twenty trucks and 13 aircraft, including water bombers, are being used to fight the fire, a State Control Centre spokesman said.

Moyston resident Rosie Nater was moving her farm stock to safety when the fire came within 1.5 kilometres of her property about 2.20pm.

"I'm on the western front, so I'm not sure how far it's gone to the south and east," she said.

"We can see the flames and a lot of smoke."

Ms Nater said the fire passed Salt Creek, on the northern outskirts of Moyston, about 2.30pm.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/emergency-warning-as-fire-rages-at-moyston-near-ararat-20150102-12guwj.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/emergency-warning-as-fire-rages-at-moyston-near-ararat-20150102-12guwj.html)

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 02, 2015, 03:29:35 PM
Anybody know where Strike Team 1421 & 1422 are headed?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 02, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Theres a fire in the Knockwood area - that could be the high country gone....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 02, 2015, 03:51:01 PM
Theres a fire in the Knockwood area - that could be the high country gone....

I see that as under control, Mt Terrible Track...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 02, 2015, 05:47:49 PM
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-at-moyston-near-ararat-brought-under-control-20150102-12guwj.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-at-moyston-near-ararat-brought-under-control-20150102-12guwj.html)

Moyston under control - for now.....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on January 02, 2015, 06:25:32 PM
Anybody know where Strike Team 1421 & 1422 are headed?
They are both off to moyston
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on January 02, 2015, 07:30:48 PM
Stay safe and be prepared all you guys that may be in the fire zones, and to any swaggers out on the feild
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 02, 2015, 07:59:12 PM
Stay Safe , Hydrate & Rest  TFB tomorrow in Vic be Ready & Stay Safe              :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 02, 2015, 08:18:27 PM
Stay Safe , Hydrate & Rest  TFB tomorrow in Vic be Ready & Stay Safe              :cheers:

Also think of old people around you.. Just knock on their door and make sure they are ok... Even more so if you are in a rural location...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 03, 2015, 09:05:23 AM
This wind has been blasting all night..... Its going to be a horrible horrible day.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 03, 2015, 09:18:07 AM
Yep, 20-40 km/h northerly is not going to help anyone.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on January 03, 2015, 10:01:42 AM
Also think of old people around you.. Just knock on their door and make sure they are ok... Even more so if you are in a rural location...
Nobody's knocked on my door  :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on January 03, 2015, 10:13:02 AM
Nobody's knocked on my door  :'( :'( :'( :'(
maaaaate, if I was in town, I'd knock on your door.......

Likewise, if anyone needs a safe haven north of Melbourne, we can offer yard space if needed. Just pm me.  Our area pretty much got burnt out last year so hoping this year a bit less risky. Still watching tho.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 03, 2015, 01:21:29 PM
Nobody's knocked on my door  :'( :'( :'( :'(
had to go check on the old man or I'd have popped inwhile searching for the bunnings that didn't exist....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 03, 2015, 01:40:02 PM
Some Bozo chucked  dunny rolls in the bin & lit it up in the High st . Turned out to put it out . Bloody Clowns  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on January 03, 2015, 01:50:00 PM
Some Bozo chucked  dunny rolls in the bin & lit it up in the High st . Turned out to put it out . Bloody Clowns  :cheers:

Bloody knob jockeys.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Nay-DMAX on January 03, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
Some Bozo chucked  dunny rolls in the bin & lit it up in the High st . Turned out to put it out . Bloody Clowns  :cheers:


http://www.mmg.com.au/local-news/shepparton/alleged-tatura-firebug-refused-bail-1.86124 (http://www.mmg.com.au/local-news/shepparton/alleged-tatura-firebug-refused-bail-1.86124)

Pleased to see this magistrate did not grant bail at least for now we know she is not out lighting fires on days like today
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on January 03, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Weather change coming through, but includes lightning........
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 03, 2015, 02:34:43 PM
Yeah the incoming lightning is going to be nasty...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 03, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
lt was last time , we had a small front go through 5 strikes in 15 mins Longwood through Avenel To Crightons Creek . & that's still going as we speak on a watch & act advisement    :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 03, 2015, 03:27:05 PM
Weather change coming through, but includes lightning........
much of the lightning is being caused by the fire causing its own weather.... they were showing it on the news earlier.
its quite common on huge fires.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 05, 2015, 08:17:49 PM
An emergency warning has been issued as a bushfire in Victoria's north west threatens private properties.

The "fast moving, out of control" 1500 hectare bushfire is travelling in a northerly direction from the Black Range State Forest in the Southern Grampians, having reached the Mt Talbot Reserve.

The warning has been issued for towns Mockinya, Nurrabiel, Telangatuk and Toolondo.

"Private properties north of the Black Range State Park and the Mt Talbot area could be impacted anytime within the next hour," the CFA warning said.



"Leaving now is the safest option, before conditions become too dangerous.

"Emergency Services may not be able to help if you decide to stay.

"If you are unable to leave the area, take shelter indoors."
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grampians-bushfire-threatens-properties-20150105-12id0e.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grampians-bushfire-threatens-properties-20150105-12id0e.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on February 09, 2015, 07:31:36 AM
Ah yes, February in Victoria. 
Was chilling out on the lounge late yesterday afternoon after having unpacked from a great weekend away camping when the Fire Alert app on my phone went off. Given the east and west side of our hamlet has been burnt in recent years, was feeling complacent with a we'll be right this year, there's only one strip of farm grassland to the south of us left to burn.
The Fire App went off again, so leaned over to have a look. Note I have it set to warn me of any fires within 15km of home.
Alot surprised when I saw the fire was located about 500m from my and V8CRSR's front doors.
Looked out the back window and sure enough, all I could see was a thick wall of smoke. Rang Matt, and He was on the corner stopping cars.
I understand about 12 fire appliances turned up within minutes so they were clearly on standby given it was a day of total fire ban.
Message for me and everyone. Never be complacent when it comes to total fire ban days!!!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on February 09, 2015, 06:17:19 PM
Ah yes, February in Victoria. 
Was chilling out on the lounge late yesterday afternoon after having unpacked from a great weekend away camping when the Fire Alert app on my phone went off. Given the east and west side of our hamlet has been burnt in recent years, was feeling complacent with a we'll be right this year, there's only one strip of farm grassland to the south of us left to burn.
The Fire App went off again, so leaned over to have a look. Note I have it set to warn me of any fires within 15km of home.
Alot surprised when I saw the fire was located about 500m from my and V8CRSR's front doors.
Looked out the back window and sure enough, all I could see was a thick wall of smoke. Rang Matt, and He was on the corner stopping cars.
I understand about 12 fire appliances turned up within minutes so they were clearly on standby given it was a day of total fire ban.
Message for me and everyone. Never be complacent when it comes to total fire ban days!!!

Hey that's my street, we are only 3 houses away from where this was.........I'm still trying to get the smoke smell out of everything.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 09, 2015, 07:17:52 PM
Never  Ever take TFB days for granted  or any other for that matter  ;D :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on February 09, 2015, 10:11:02 PM
Never  Ever take TFB days for granted  or any other for that matter  ;D :cheers:

Ever.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on February 09, 2015, 10:27:16 PM
As a new zelander I have never until I lived here seen so many arsonists... it's absurd when you see the country in its most vulnerable state
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: InMused on February 09, 2015, 11:13:11 PM
As a new zelander I have never until I lived here seen so many arsonists... it's absurd when you see the country in its most vulnerable state

It's hard to start an earthquake.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on October 06, 2015, 02:26:41 PM
Early for the season...

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An out-of-control bushfire is threatening towns about 80 kilometres north-west of Melbourne.

The Country Fire Authority upgraded a watch-and-act message for the Cobaw, Lancefield, Benloch and Nullavale areas in the Macedon Ranges shortly after 2pm.

Firefighters have been unable to stop the fire, which has crossed Three Chain Road and is moving quickly towards Lancefield.

At around 1.30pm the blaze had covered more than 70 hectares.

A CFA spokesperson said the bushfire was travelling in a south easterly direction from Nudist Camp Track towards Maloneys Road and Lancefield.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-fires-cool-change-brings-unpredictable-bushfire-conditions-20151005-gk1xtr.html#ixzz3nl6SYqX4 (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-fires-cool-change-brings-unpredictable-bushfire-conditions-20151005-gk1xtr.html#ixzz3nl6SYqX4)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQh_ypEWwAAo41S.png)
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 06, 2015, 02:53:19 PM
Yep, Lancefield, radar image showing smoke plume as clouds
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on October 06, 2015, 04:37:42 PM
lts blowing at 50 to 70 km up this way , very dusty  & hot . There are a few fires going but its supposed to be too early for this to happen . lf it burns now then it wont burn later . There is heaps of preventive burns that wont be able to on the go till next year , but they are holding fuel . Be Careful out there                                  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on October 06, 2015, 04:49:28 PM
 This was the view from our front yard this afternoon of the smoke from the cobaw/ Lancefield fire.
It quickly brought back memories of the fires we have had in the area ver the last few years, I hope this year isn't going to be as bad as they it will be for fires.

(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/hzj105t/500D348E-0AD1-4270-814F-C1B452143F25.jpg)

Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on October 06, 2015, 04:56:18 PM
I posted this in another thread but think it should be here
Talking to a few Swaggers at the Maldon meet about the fire season ahead
here are a few links to help track and listen

https://emapws.depi.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_Home.htm (https://emapws.depi.vic.gov.au/BurnsToday/sau/SAU_External/SAU_Home.htm)
http://www.cfastream.info/infusions/cfastream_streams/cfastream_stream.php (http://www.cfastream.info/infusions/cfastream_streams/cfastream_stream.php)
http://www.myemergencyservices.com/ (http://www.myemergencyservices.com/)
Also tunein cfa region 14
The cfa stream site is not running at the moment but will be online again soon
The other site is for tracking fire fighting aircraft
 :cheers:
Brett B
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on October 06, 2015, 07:50:28 PM
It's hard to start an earthquake.
....
Not as hard as it is to win the bledisole cup
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on October 06, 2015, 07:52:42 PM
Been blowing here in gellong/leopold.
If anything started would have been a rapid speed.
I heard the local stations alarms go off this morning as I left home
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on October 06, 2015, 08:10:15 PM
lts blowing a gale up this way , but it has cooled down almost to cold , but not to rain .   :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: achjimmy on October 06, 2015, 09:59:25 PM
There deploying the tanker aircraft they bought in from the states to Vic to assist in this fires.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on October 07, 2015, 08:34:30 AM
It was a burn off that they lost.... an "investigation" is underway

Updates
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-express-wednesday-october-7-2015-20151006-gk2tqa.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-express-wednesday-october-7-2015-20151006-gk2tqa.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on October 07, 2015, 10:46:02 PM
It was a burn off that they lost.... an "investigation" is underway

Updates
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-express-wednesday-october-7-2015-20151006-gk2tqa.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-express-wednesday-october-7-2015-20151006-gk2tqa.html)

Pretty simple really, don't start a fire bigger than you have the capacity to put out.
But hey, I'm biased ... I have a place in Lancefield.
Spent yesterday at work in Geelong thinking "Well at least I'm insured - including for my camper in the new shed."
Some of these dick heads should be sacked on the spot!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on October 08, 2015, 07:06:05 AM
Pretty simple really, don't start a fire bigger than you have the capacity to put out.

Also don't let red tape slow down any attempt to do controlled burns , to reduce fuel .
Don't put up with greenies that care more about spiders & beetles than families & houses  .
Do be aware of how fast the bush & grasslands have cured due to dry conditions .
Do be very aware of the weather conditions , heat , storm with lightening , etc .
Do all you possibly can to clear areas around you property & don't leave it to the CFA  alone .
Become actively involved in the CFA/ SES  to be able to give back to your community . This doesn't mean pouring wet stuff on hot stuff as other roles can be just as important  .
Stay Safe above all
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Kangaron on October 08, 2015, 11:57:16 AM
tis the season for planned burns tho, badly needed [ done properly]
http://www.depi.vic.gov.au/fire-and-emergencies/planned-burns/planned-burns-now-and-next-10-days (http://www.depi.vic.gov.au/fire-and-emergencies/planned-burns/planned-burns-now-and-next-10-days)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: plusnq on October 08, 2015, 01:33:49 PM
Stay safe everyone.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: B&B on October 08, 2015, 01:34:58 PM
Pretty simple really, don't start a fire bigger than you have the capacity to put out.

Also don't let red tape slow down any attempt to do controlled burns , to reduce fuel .
Don't put up with greenies that care more about spiders & beetles than families & houses  .
Do be aware of how fast the bush & grasslands have cured due to dry conditions .
Do be very aware of the weather conditions , heat , storm with lightening , etc .
Do all you possibly can to clear areas around you property & don't leave it to the CFA  alone .
Become actively involved in the CFA/ SES  to be able to give back to your community . This doesn't mean pouring wet stuff on hot stuff as other roles can be just as important  .
Stay Safe above all
Jamie, if you want to bash greenies how about you go over to the 'Rant' thread.
I am totally aware of what the conditions of the fire area were, as we drove out to Maldon via the Carlsruhe Rd last Friday (i.e. the area where the fire break out occurred), and returned via through Redesdale on Sunday via Burke and Wills Track, where the fire subsequently headed.  The previous Sunday we did a circuit through the forest around Nulla Vale, now also burnt.
The simple reason the fire broke out was because DELWP had insufficient boots on the ground and available wet stuff to control what they started. 
A faiurly simple solution is to do smaller burns, i.e. significantly smaller perimeters, and put them out properly - i.e. detailed blacking out with wet stuff, then do another.
As I have said, there is only a limited window of time to do these burns, but need to be smarter, for example, in addition to more smaller fires:
*  Start earlier when conditions are sufficiently dry, as they are this year.  (I was in the Cobaws 2 months ago and they were clearly already dry enough for reduction burning.)
*  In order to maximise fuel reduction identified for programmed burns, allow the community to go in and gather fallen timber for fire wood in the month preceeding the burn - i.e. less to burn means lower chance of the fire getting away.

All in all it isnt rocket science, and those affected deserve more respect than to use it as an excuse to bash so-called 'greenies'.  It wasnt them who fcuked it up.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on October 08, 2015, 05:25:00 PM

Found out this morning one of my work mates parents lost their home in the Lancefield fire earlier this week. I can only hope the government look after the people have lost from the horrific mistake of back burning before the hot windy weather hit.

Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 05:27:29 PM

Found out this morning one of my work mates parents lost their home in the Lancefield fire earlier this week. I can only hope the government look after the people have lost from the horrific mistake of back burning before the hot windy weather hit.

Matt
not good Matt, anything they need?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on October 08, 2015, 06:23:50 PM
not good Matt, anything they need?

x2. A workmate of mine lost his house in the black Saturday fires and he was shattered. Was a tough time for him. Hope they are OK
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on October 08, 2015, 06:53:16 PM
not good Matt, anything they need?

No not good mate, there has way too much of this in our area in the last 6 years....
They still can't get back in to see what's left, they have lots of family close by so are in good hands.

Cheers. Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: oldmate on October 08, 2015, 08:50:42 PM
Sorry to hear mate
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on October 08, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
Take care and be safe barry;always a place for you andvyours to stay should things get hairy up there
Sorry to hear about your mate matt... hppefuly this summer will be remebered for the good not the tragidies
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on October 08, 2015, 11:18:53 PM

No not good mate, there has way too much of this in our area in the last 6 years....
yep, I was naively thinking we could have had a year off this year, then I saw the plume of smoke on Tuesday west of our places and thought ****, not again.

The saving grace is that when global warming raises the sea level and floods Melbourne, we could have coastal properties.......
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on October 09, 2015, 03:00:23 PM
Not good at all.
Interesting it jumped containment lines while the Grand Final was on.... :(

Quote
A fifth house has been lost in Victoria's bushfire emergency as firefighters continue to battle an out-of-control blaze north of Melbourne.

Residents spent another day on edge as the bushfire threatened their homes near the town of Benloch.

Hundreds of people still do not know whether their houses have survived the blaze because roadblocks remain in place.

But authorities have confirmed that five houses, 19 sheds, two vehicles and farm equipment have been destroyed. Kilometres of fencing have also been lost.

The fire was sparked by a controlled burn-off in Cobaw that jumped containment lines during the AFL grand final on Saturday afternoon.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-bushfires-2015-homes-lost-as-blaze-rages-near-lancefield-benloch-20151008-gk4vxz.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-bushfires-2015-homes-lost-as-blaze-rages-near-lancefield-benloch-20151008-gk4vxz.html)

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: V8CRSA on October 09, 2015, 05:07:34 PM
Not good at all.
Interesting it jumped containment lines while the Grand Final was on.... :(

We where watching it while driving up to Maldon on Saturday, we could see it getting worse.

Matt
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on October 09, 2015, 09:39:33 PM
It was pretty big on the Thursday judging  by the amount of smoke  :'(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: mjharps on October 10, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
I flew over them on Wednesday and the smoke stretched for probably a hundred miles or so.

Looked nasty.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 17, 2015, 06:24:06 PM
And it has begun
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 18, 2015, 05:55:52 AM

And it has begun
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 18, 2015, 06:06:58 AM
You can almost hear the growing fear of an out break in the next few days  , its not going to be pretty
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 18, 2015, 06:14:05 AM

You can almost hear the growing fear of an out break in the next few days  , its not going to be pretty
yep, we set up and tested the sprinklers and pump last night at our place. Being on the western edge of town always a little nervous this time of year. Thinking I might have to delay my holiday departure tomorrow for a day or two. Make that decision in the morning.
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 18, 2015, 06:16:26 AM
Damn iterations
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 18, 2015, 06:21:22 AM
Yep, not looking too good, have prepared and will be heading to the beach this weekend to get away from it.

GG
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 18, 2015, 06:29:09 AM

Yep, not looking too good, have prepared and will be heading to the beach this weekend to get away from it.

GG
hope you've got your winter wood pile covered? Wouldn't want that going up.....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 18, 2015, 06:31:53 AM
hope you've got your winter wood pile covered? Wouldn't want that going up.....

Unfortunately that would be the least of my worries if one came through. Its around 20 metres away from the house and in a pretty safe spot.

To all swaggers stay safe and get out early if needed.

GG
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 18, 2015, 10:17:50 AM
& stay hydrated  ( not with :cheers: ) not till later  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 18, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: speewa158
You can almost hear the growing fear of an out break in the next few days  , its not going to be pretty

I just hope the 'city' non regular camping type flogs understand how ****in dangerous it is...
also the cockies with welders and angle grinders

On the flip side, I think it will keep Shit loads of people away from the high country!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: SJindustries on December 18, 2015, 08:43:47 PM
also the cockies with welders and angle grinders

Few years ago had a planned shut, work outside. The day of work became a TFB. Job still had to be done. Had to get CFA permit for welding and get extra guys on for a fire watch. Bloody nightmare
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 19, 2015, 06:39:23 AM
Anyone know where those fires were yesterday?was fishing off queenscliff and both the mornington and bellerine peninsulars were covered in smoke.
Havnt heard anything but must have been big.
Can see a bit in the distance here but was a wind change so  it momentarily cleared by the heads
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/18/5aeeffe484def76fe97d9ae96ec2339f.jpg)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 19, 2015, 08:09:06 AM

Anyone know where those fires were yesterday?was fishing off queenscliff and both the mornington and bellerine peninsulars were covered in smoke.
Havnt heard anything but must have been big.
Can see a bit in the distance here but was a wind change so  it momentarily cleared by the heads
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/12/18/5aeeffe484def76fe97d9ae96ec2339f.jpg)
stuff the fires, what did you catch? Remember 'worthless' without pics;D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 19, 2015, 08:13:23 AM
Just the usual banjo sharks!
Cant go out in the bay without catching them.
Was terible conditions yesterday and our first time down that way so mostly exploration.
Caught a heap of whiting and a snapper and a lizard about 2kg each last weekend tbough.
Itching to get into some decent snapper
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 09:05:00 AM
Sounds like a nasty one on the Hume Fwy near Epping, they're calling in air support and lots of appliances being called.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on December 19, 2015, 09:08:33 AM
Just been outside and the wind is bad, I got a bad feeling about today very similar to black Saturday

Swannie
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 09:13:39 AM
Just been outside and the wind is bad, I got a bad feeling about today very similar to black Saturday

x2, I was thinking exactly that when I went outside this morning.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on December 19, 2015, 09:17:01 AM
Yep, it's blow a dog of a chain here atm, not good
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 09:31:23 AM
They're now closing the Hume Fwy...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 19, 2015, 09:31:40 AM

Sounds like a nasty one on the Hume Fwy near Epping, they're calling in air support and lots of appliances being called.
yep, can see the smoke from my place. There's a fair bit of residential east so hopefully they can stop it before it gets too far toward your area
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 09:34:40 AM
yep, can see the smoke from my place. There's a fair bit of residential east so hopefully they can stop it before it gets too far toward your area

It's just north of Oherns Rd and Hume Fwy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 19, 2015, 09:51:20 AM

It's just north of Oherns Rd and Hume Fwy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2015, 10:04:21 AM
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/ (http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2015, 10:44:57 AM
x 3 on the bad feeling D4D has....



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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWi52jHU4AAXBGR.jpg)
A fast-moving fire has destroyed property and farming equipment on the northern outskirts of Melbourne, closing the Hume Highway at Epping.

The five-hectare grass fire at Vearings Road, Epping, is described as moving from Harvest Home Road towards O'Hearn's Road.
 
 The Country Fire Authority has issued a Watch and Act message for those in the area.

This grassfire is currently not yet under control.

The Hume Highway is closed from Craigieburn Road, Wollert, to Metropolitan Ring Road, Thomastown. VicRoads has asked motorists to seek an alternative route.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grass-fire-blazes-at-epping-near-melbournes-edge-20151218-glrgof.html#ixzz3uitG05yl (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/grass-fire-blazes-at-epping-near-melbournes-edge-20151218-glrgof.html#ixzz3uitG05yl)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 19, 2015, 10:53:35 AM
Not good at all
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
12:25pm: The CFA has issued an EMERGENCY WARNING for Rodger Road in Wandin North:


 This is an Emergency Warning issued by Country Fire Authority for Wandin North, Wandin East.
 
 There is a fast moving, out of control grassfire travelling in a southerly direction from Rodger Road, Wandin North towards Warburton Highway.
 
 You are in danger, act now to protect yourself.

It is too late to leave. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately.


12:35: Firefighters have told residents in Wandin North that it is too late to leave

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/#ixzz3uj94N6pQ (http://www.theage.com.au/#ixzz3uj94N6pQ)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Gravity on December 19, 2015, 12:48:34 PM
We are in Mt Evelyn only 5min away this is scary stuff especially when surrounded by 200 ft gum trees…bags are packed ready to go if the wind changes direction , fire trucks and CFA are on the move and see helicopters. 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 01:03:49 PM
Stay safe Gravity, my folks now have an emergency warning for Cape Paterson to leave.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Black Diamond on December 19, 2015, 01:19:39 PM
We are in Mt Evelyn only 5min away this is scary stuff especially when surrounded by 200 ft gum trees…bags are packed ready to go if the wind changes direction , fire trucks and CFA are on the move and see helicopters.
Scary stuff hope all is well mate.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Gravity on December 19, 2015, 01:30:01 PM
If it does get out of control here I will hook up the camper and flee , at least we will have somewhere to sleep  :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 19, 2015, 01:52:23 PM
Hows it going down there?
Have they got it under contril yet?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 19, 2015, 01:54:19 PM
Epping fire was deliberate.
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/fire-burns-on-outskirts-of-melbourne/news-story/582ff33e14250dfeb5478ade290c429f (http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/fire-burns-on-outskirts-of-melbourne/news-story/582ff33e14250dfeb5478ade290c429f)

Police have arrested a man following a large suspicious grassfire on Melbourne outskirts.

The 34-year-old man, of no fixed address, was arrested in Vearings Road about 12.50pm and is assisting police with their inquiries.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Gravity on December 19, 2015, 02:12:54 PM
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/12/19/03/35/vic-fire-danger-extreme-in-40c-heat (http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/12/19/03/35/vic-fire-danger-extreme-in-40c-heat)

Looks like watch and act for now, must admit had worst in mind as it reminded me of Black Saturday…Being on top of the mountain we could see the entire area in flames , that's when you know people are in trouble.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 19, 2015, 02:47:12 PM
This year the CFA is equipped with more Firebirds  ( Choppers ) . They are scattered throughout the state with an area that they cover in the event of an out break . Up this way we have 1 at Shepparton , & the other at Mangalore at turn out Firebird is called with a response time of 20 mins . First on scene can cancel firebird if we can handle the job , returning it to base . lf the job is big & growing we call in more firebirds & tankers .
The job at Epping is a good example of how it works , sadly it has to .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Gravity on December 19, 2015, 03:22:00 PM
Thank God we have them…Driving home today from work through all that smoke is scary stuff and the summer has only just begun.
Imagine having to have a standby list of things to take on short notice as everything else could be lost ,I don't want to loose anything…my fish tank , cars and everything you hold dear to you a lifetime of memories lost…Sure it's all insured but in the end I would rather have all my junk than $$$
My thoughts and prayers to all those out there stay safe life is more important than valuables leave when you must.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brett B on December 20, 2015, 06:45:24 AM
Another day of fire watch today might be worse than yesterday lets hope theres none
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on December 20, 2015, 07:36:02 AM
To all the Swaggers (& everyone else) in the area, especially those out fighting the fires, please stay safe.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on December 20, 2015, 08:02:43 AM
They're now closing the Hume Fwy...
Yeah,  we drove back from the Gold Coast yesterday and they had the bypass closed at Kalkalo was wondering  why,  we didn't see any smoke.  It's going to be a bad day today
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 20, 2015, 08:28:58 AM
Don't forget to check in on the elderly/sick, just heard on the scanner a welfare check end with a deceased 80+ year old.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on December 20, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
Horrendous conditions here today with hot temps and high winds. Had both my firefighter pumps running today for other reasons but glad to know they are running if needed.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 20, 2015, 12:28:07 PM

Horrendous conditions here today with hot temps and high winds. Had both my firefighter pumps running today for other reasons but glad to know they are running if needed.
View from the balcony of the Water Wheel pub - Lake Tyers
if it's any consolation, it's no cooler on the beach. Gusty winds blowing a 44° heat. Must be a cool change due through tonight as the temps are predicted to be in the mid to high 20's next 3 days.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 20, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
Raining in geelong now.
Has been for a while
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: raider on December 20, 2015, 03:08:05 PM
Fires at the back of Wodonga at present. The wind is atrocious. Just started raining a minute ago but has stopped although there looks like more coming.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: raider on December 20, 2015, 04:09:12 PM
Gee , it's not getting any better. Just saw lightning out the corner of my eye too.
(http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p762/brelen4/IMG_0235_zps4ntscygg.jpg) (http://s1350.photobucket.com/user/brelen4/media/IMG_0235_zps4ntscygg.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 20, 2015, 06:13:35 PM
This just came up on the cfa page
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: tracker on December 20, 2015, 06:30:57 PM
This just came up on the cfa page

 Please stay safe .......to our southern friends....
                  Cheers Tracker.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: LuckyDog on December 20, 2015, 07:02:09 PM
Yes Swaggers I hope everyone is safe also.

Sent from my ZTE T83 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 20, 2015, 08:34:13 PM
man.. didn't the weather change today... just had to drop a mate off in Malvern, and it was bucketin down when we left, 1/2 way up the freeway you'd never know it rained or that there were clouds in the sky..
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 21, 2015, 05:34:55 AM
Welcome to Melbourne , if you don't like the weather hang around a bit for the next change .
it was 42 C here yesterday & the wind would blow the saddle off a night mare . Lightning was about & it was so dry , had a running grass fire in Shepparton which smoked most of the town .
Should be 25C today  a lot more pleasant to work in  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Gravity on December 21, 2015, 11:25:13 AM
Hey guy's add this site to your Bookmarks for up to date reports in your area's , very valuable when Camping.  http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/# (http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 24, 2015, 11:49:43 AM
Anyone going away this year anywhere be prepared to GTFO if needed in a hurry.. don't **** about



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Firefighters are battling to contain an out-of-control Great Otway National Park fire ahead of an expected hot and windy weather spike on Christmas Day.

There are 100 firefighters and six aircraft fighting the fire in Victoria's south-east, but the dense bushland means it is difficult to access, a state control centre spokeswoman said.

"The Lorne Jamieson Track fire has burnt  246 hectares and still not yet under control with smoke and flames continuing to be visible," she said.

"The Lorne Delaneys Road blaze is only 13 hectares and contained."

The area under threat is close to the popular Falls Festival New Years Eve location which attracts thousands of people, but CFA incident controller Alistair Drayton there was no threat to the celebration at this stage


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/otway-fire-still-out-of-control-but-no-threat-to-falls-festival-20151224-glulvk.html#ixzz3vCOIHhpS (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/otway-fire-still-out-of-control-but-no-threat-to-falls-festival-20151224-glulvk.html#ixzz3vCOIHhpS)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 24, 2015, 08:13:03 PM
Latest info from Parks VIC if you're heading West


For campers and visitors heading to the Great Otway National Park, fire activity near Lorne has forced the closure of some areas but there's still plenty to enjoy.

The following campsites and walking tracks around the Lorne-Jamieson Track and Lorne-Delaneys Road are currently closed for public safety until further notice:
• Jamieson campground
• Wye River campground
• Wye River Road Track
• Godfrey’s Track
• Jamieson Track
• Cumberland Track
• Wye Track
• Curtis Track

We ask that people stay away from these places and explore other parts of the Otways or take advantage of the many other opportunities to get out and experience nature throughout Victoria.

Motorists driving in fire affected areas – especially on the Great Ocean Road near Lorne – should drive carefully due to smoke and emergency services vehicles. Do not block the road by slowing down or stopping to look at what’s going on.

There is no threat to communities but it is important to remain vigilant over the Christmas period and stay informed. Check for the latest warnings and advice messages at www.emergency.vic.gov.au (http://www.emergency.vic.gov.au) or by phoning the Victorian Bushfire Information Line on 1800 555 77. Monitor media updates and tune into local ABC radio stations.



Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 25, 2015, 01:10:42 PM
Swannie? If you need a hand yell out.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: SJindustries on December 25, 2015, 01:39:23 PM
Swannie? If you need a hand yell out.
We have room here for the 2 hungie and swan if ya need it champ
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on December 25, 2015, 02:17:57 PM
Thanks guys but I'm not in danger at this point. Unfortunately a mate who just moved into his newly built home yesterday is right in the middle and in big danger. We can't get in at this point but it doesn't look good. if wind changes than might be different got cars ready to go and will take 30 secs to hitch swan up
Swannie
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Nay-DMAX on December 25, 2015, 03:29:40 PM
Thanks guys but I'm not in danger at this point. Unfortunately a mate who just moved into his newly built home yesterday is right in the middle and in big danger. We can't get in at this point but it doesn't look good. if wind changes than might be different got cars ready to go and will take 30 secs to hitch swan up
Swannie

If you need anything please let us know plenty of room here for you guys and for the two dogs if needed. Hope your mate is ok
Title: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 25, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
Not looking so great down the ocean road
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 25, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Had a typical start to  Xmas day the CFA pager at 6AM decided we had a job on the GV Hyw  small grass fire . That makes it the 3rd year in a row  :'(      :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 25, 2015, 04:52:07 PM

Not looking so great down the ocean road
upgraded to evacuate. I know JPH has packed up and headed home


Remember
Chill, put the aircon on, climb another great track in the Vic High Country, then look north to see what our Qld brothers are up to on the beach?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 25, 2015, 08:57:12 PM
Victoria's Emergency Management Commissioner Craig Lapsley says about 60 houses may have already been lost in Separation Creek and Wye River.

When the wind changes, the fire may burn back into the two townships, leading to further property losses. CFA fire maps show both townships are now entirely encircled and cut off by fire.

"Not the whole town is on fire, but there is certainly a lot of fire in the town."

"Its actually done a little bit of a horseshoe around Wye river, it's burnt into a number of properties around it. When the southerly comes it will burn back into Wye river."

In better news Mr Lapsley said he did not expect the fire to enter the town of Kennett River, the next one south from Wye River.

Mr Lapsley said he had been told there were 340 properties in Wye River and Separation Creek. 79 are permanent, the rest are holiday homes.

On Lorne, Mr Lapsley said he believed the fire probably would not reach Lorne – however, the risk was still present. The fire front is 5km from Lorne.

"We believe the fire front will not move into the town, and if it does it will take a number of hours to do so."

"We don't believe we will see major property losses in Lorne, however we only need a gust of wind to change that."


Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: JPH on December 25, 2015, 10:21:09 PM
Yep,things are pretty serious down this way, we made the decision to leave early afternoon, the van is still set up in Lorne, but so be it. The kids are safe at home. I'm now sitting in the Anglesea Fire Station on standby for Rescue. All services are taking the event very seriously, Great Ocean Road is currently closed with Diversions in at Bellbrae and Skenes Creek.  Will see what happens over the next day or so.

(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b535/JPH23/E7C5A77D-87CF-402B-A245-0956143EC430_zpstqhsfhdj.jpg)

The view above Lorne at about 1 o'clock.

Cheers

Josh
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 26, 2015, 03:54:47 AM
As this post goes up a huge belt of good rain is falling on the Wye River area . This will assist all the strike teams on the fire grounds . Stay safe out there
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 26, 2015, 05:46:25 AM
Been raining for hours up here on the coast.
Im sure its helped somewhat.
Its been pretty steady heavy rain too
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: achjimmy on December 26, 2015, 06:08:48 AM
Great news on the rain, fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 26, 2015, 06:14:48 AM
I hope it rains heaps down there. Those fire tracks turn to thick black mud and very slippery with even a little bit of moisture.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 26, 2015, 08:04:46 AM
Harder to burn wet leaf trash  :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 26, 2015, 02:40:43 PM
sunny windy as Shit here :( nasty wind too, very blustery...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 26, 2015, 04:34:52 PM
that's farkt

Quote
Authorities have revised the number of homes destroyed in Wye River and Separation Creek upward to 116 following the bushfire that ravaged the Great Ocean Road on Christmas Day. That is twice the number of homes lost than was originally feared.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-bushfires-great-ocean-road-towns-hit-by-fires-20151225-glv2ud.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victorian-bushfires-great-ocean-road-towns-hit-by-fires-20151225-glv2ud.html)

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scarpsD40 on December 26, 2015, 04:44:49 PM

that's farkt
thankfully they're talking no human life or farming properties lost so as a State we've learned from history. GTFO of the area. Happy to be told otherwise but suspect quite a few of the 116 homes are holiday homes hopefully covered by insurance so there won't be the usual big demand on the gov for financial assistance.
The cost of resources and equipment will be significant as they're still talking weeks before they have this one under control.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 26, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
might be time to count  the tree hugger that want places for spiders & creepy crawling things above homes . CFA Volunteers putting wet stuff on hot stuff as apposed to . latia drinking , town dwelling tree huggers  mung bean  munching 1/2 wits that don't understand the Aussie bush . But want to save it .

Fuel load reduction burns    , not BS about where critters will live .
Crowning Wild Fire in inaccessible country don't leave much of anything alive dose it . Save that
So how many treehuggers are on the back of a fire truck in the Otway's about now 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: tracker on December 27, 2015, 05:02:45 AM
Hmmmmmm....can only agree with Speewa,

             Just my opinion,
                                     Cheers Tracker.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Foo on December 27, 2015, 12:25:25 PM
might be time to count  the tree hugger that want places for spiders & creepy crawling things above homes . CFA Volunteers putting wet stuff on hot stuff as apposed to . latia drinking , town dwelling tree huggers  mung bean  munching 1/2 wits that don't understand the Aussie bush . But want to save it .

Fuel load reduction burns    , not BS about where critters will live .
Crowning Wild Fire in inaccessible country don't leave much of anything alive dose it . Save that
So how many treehuggers are on the back of a fire truck in the Otway's about now

About this many 0

Foo
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 27, 2015, 12:51:06 PM
Probably should go in the rant thread. Just witnessed a couple of car loads of our 'young' start a fire on the grass verge of the freeway and drive off. They were both waiting to turn right, so one let off a roman candle and threw it at his mates car. You can guess what happened next. It happened so quick I didn't even think to get their numberplates. Happened in Fuji's area too...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 27, 2015, 07:06:04 PM
I guess this is also one for the rant thread -

Why is the media getting tours of the burnt out houses and Shit but the people that live there aren't???

WTF?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on December 27, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
I guess this is also one for the rant thread -

Why is the media getting tours of the burnt out houses and Shit but the people that live there aren't???

WTF?

Agree its a bit arked...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 27, 2015, 07:43:11 PM
Why is the media getting tours of the burnt out houses and Shit but the people that live there aren't???

Still too unsafe to let residents in unescorted with trees coming down. That place had way more trees than Marysville and there were big trees still falling down everywhere when I was helping with the clean up a couple of days later. There's also probably asbestos from the older shacks and live wires from solar etc.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 27, 2015, 07:54:42 PM
Quote from: D4D
Still too unsafe to let residents in unescorted with trees coming down. That place had way more trees than Marysville and there were big trees still falling down everywhere when I was helping with the clean up a couple of days later. There's also probably asbestos from the older shacks and live wires from solar etc.

I understand that - but why not show the people who live there around instead of the media? I think they deserve a little more consideration instead of "FIRST AT FIVE" :(

Apparently late today some people got a Bus tour of their houses etc, but not allowed out of the bus... What a Shit thing to happen any time of year, let alone this time.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 27, 2015, 07:58:12 PM
Apparently late today some people got a Bus tour of their houses etc, but not allowed out of the bus... What a Shit thing to happen any time of year, let alone this time.

They did a residents bus tour yesterday of Separation Creek and Wye River today.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 28, 2015, 05:42:43 AM
Now that the area has been destroyed & the money from tourists has dried up the GOR will really do it tuff . As rains come the ground will become unstable & more likely to slippage . Don't forget them down there . When its safe to return everybody able should make a point of going through area the area . Spend a bit of cash or get involved in a local clean up event
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: JPH on December 28, 2015, 07:58:10 PM
We are back in Lorne, most of the Caravan Parks filled up on Sunday, which is great to see.  I do feel for the traders, especially with Falls Festival being relocated, many of them will take a hit. Mind you we did our bit today helping out spending money in a few shops!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 30, 2015, 04:37:11 PM
Well Done  :cup:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 30, 2015, 05:11:28 PM
Still not sounding good :(

Quote
Residents in Kennett River, Grey River and Wongarra have been ordered to evacuate by tomorrow morning at 10am, as fire authorities warn soaring temperatures and northerly winds threaten to spark another bushfire. 

The communities along the Surf Coast have been told to expect another Christmas Day, and to have their fire plans ready.

If the extreme weather conditions do not eventuate, they will be allowed back in on New Year's Eve.
 
More than 200 residents attended a meeting in Apollo Bay on Wednesday where they were told that, even though the fire was not posing an immediate threat to their community, it was "indiscriminate".


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-chiefs-order-evacuation-of-kennett-river-grey-river-and-wongarra-20151230-glwsam.html#ixzz3vmmN7Qm4 (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/fire-chiefs-order-evacuation-of-kennett-river-grey-river-and-wongarra-20151230-glwsam.html#ixzz3vmmN7Qm4)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: dales133 on December 30, 2015, 05:34:45 PM
I understand that - but why not show the people who live there around instead of the media? I think they deserve a little more consideration instead of "FIRST AT FIVE" :(

Apparently late today some people got a Bus tour of their houses etc, but not allowed out of the bus... What a Shit thing to happen any time of year, let alone this time.
Same reason the media get access to suicide bombing sites and natural disasters ...they pay more money than everyone else.
They chartered helicopters that could have been used to evacuate people in the recent nepal earthquakes ....shouldnt even be called news anymore.
Its just a get rich at all costs exercise owned by scum like rupert murdoch
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on December 31, 2015, 09:28:57 AM
That's a thing that always gets me whenever there's any sort of natural disaster - you've immediately got a crew of 1/2 dozen people on the scene from every channel nationwide, usually your main state capital news reader will go wherever to report "Live from the scene" & the first thing they say is that there's a critical shortage of fresh water, food supplies have run out, there's no accommodation for evacuees & power is being reserved for critical uses only...

So why are these hundreds of vultures allowed to be there, drinking, eating, sleeping, charging batteries & so on?  >:(

There should only be 1, fully self-sufficient, news crew, picked at random by Emergency Services, allowed in to the area with their film then being shared fully & freely with all stations.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 31, 2015, 09:30:37 AM
Quote from: Fizzie
That's a thing that always gets me whenever there's any sort of natural disaster - you've immediately got a crew of 1/2 dozen people on the scene from every channel nationwide, usually your main state capital news reader will go wherever to report "Live from the scene" & the first thing they say is that there's a critical shortage of fresh water, food supplies have run out, there's no accommodation for evacuees & power is being reserved for critical uses only...

So why are these hundreds of vultures allowed to be there, drinking, eating, sleeping, charging batteries & so on?  >:(
that was my exact point that went sailing over head...


Quote
There should only be 1, fully self-sufficient, news crew, picked at random by Emergency Services
I'd be happy to see none but why not make them pay.. highest bidder gets in - all $ goes to the relief effort.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GQMacca on December 31, 2015, 09:41:16 AM
So why are these hundreds of vultures allowed to be there, drinking, eating, sleeping, charging batteries & so on?  >:(

While I was fighting the fires at my grandparents place (Delburn) in 2009, we had a channel 7 car drive straight through the paddock to us, then the bloke got out and started asking stupid questions..

He got told in no uncertain terms "Either help out, or go away"  >:( (I may not have been anywhere near that polite at the time due to the wall of flame heading towards us at a great rate of knots).


Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: plusnq on December 31, 2015, 11:30:25 AM

I'd be happy to see none but why not make them pay.. highest bidder gets in - all $ goes to the relief effort.

That's a great idea.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 31, 2015, 03:29:13 PM
Some fire activity in Truganina

This is a Watch and Act message issued by Country Fire Authority for Truganina.

There is a small grass fire travelling in a south easterly direction from the corner of Woods Road & Dohertys Road to Leakes Road.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Crisp Image on January 01, 2016, 07:37:44 PM
In 2 days we have had small fires on both sides of us. Within 5 or 6 km.
The CFA and others have got on to it quickly and have then under control or out. One was deliberately lit but I am unsure of the other one.
Got to keep your eyes open.
Crispy
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 13, 2016, 09:03:02 AM
Just had a deliberately lit fire a couple of klms from home in a state park. Due to the extreme fire danger the park was closed so nobody should be in there, hopefully Parks VIC can find the arsonist.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scrapsD40 on January 13, 2016, 09:06:15 AM

Just had a deliberately lit fire a couple of klms from home in a state park. Due to the extreme fire danger the park was closed so nobody should be in there, hopefully Parks VIC can find the arsonist.
time for a good ol' lynching if caught
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on January 13, 2016, 09:15:57 AM
Just had a deliberately lit fire a couple of klms from home in a state park. Due to the extreme fire danger the park was closed so nobody should be in there, hopefully Parks VIC can find the arsonist.

It's a pity that the fire they lit didn't "catch" them.....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: scrapsD40 on January 13, 2016, 12:32:51 PM

It's a pity that the fire they lit didn't "catch" them.....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GGV8Cruza on January 13, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
Hot. Still and ready to go off in the hills. In full prep mode. Kids down the beach, waiting for the cool change

GG

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 13, 2016, 12:37:53 PM
Hot. Still and ready to go off in the hills. In full prep mode. Kids down the beach, waiting for the cool change

GG
yea could be a nasty Aussie Day in the hills I feel.. only couple of weeks away

if ya need, drop the trailer off at my place and put it in the shed until it cools off again
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Champin on January 26, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
Fires at Merringtons flat and Coopers creek, Vic. Out of control camp fires? Been blowing fairly hard all day around Moe town. Hope everyones OK.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: SJindustries on January 26, 2016, 04:53:19 PM
Fires at Merringtons flat and Coopers creek, Vic. Out of control camp fires? Been blowing fairly hard all day around Moe town. Hope everyones OK.
People camping opposite to us , left their campfire still smoldering when they departed. took 60ltrs water to flood it out
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Champin on January 26, 2016, 04:57:09 PM
Seen that alot up that way. Lost count of how many camp fires I've put out. Hope it's the same situation at Merringtons and not too serious. Enjoy you stay up there. It's a beutiful part of the world.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lino6 on January 26, 2016, 05:02:49 PM
People camping opposite to us , left their campfire still smoldering when they departed. took 60ltrs water to flood it out


W-anchors........
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on November 21, 2016, 07:44:32 AM
Going to be a nasty day out there...
http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/# (http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#)
Mildura Total fire ban, and Flood watch... Only in Victoria!

'Hot with fresh and gusty north to northwesterly winds ahead of a cooler west to southwesterly change extending from the west in the late afternoon and evening. Isolated showers and thunderstorms developing during the afternoon.'
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: ScarpsD40 on January 04, 2017, 05:21:15 PM
And it's begun. This area worries me more than the Kinglake side. Dry grass farmland between swannie and me. Burns hot and fast
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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 04, 2017, 05:32:18 PM
And it's begun. This area worries me more than the Kinglake side. Dry grass farmland between swannie and me. Burns hot and fast

You forgot, and demented morons deliberately lighting it up...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 04, 2017, 06:02:34 PM
You forgot, and demented morons deliberately lighting it up...
already had them doin it round here last week when it was only 35... ****in cockheads
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 04, 2017, 06:11:35 PM
1st up against the revolution  ,Shoot 1 & The word Will Spread  :'(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on January 05, 2017, 10:36:57 AM
As I said before...

Get the little !@#$, chain a couple of Besser Blocks around each ankle & leave him standing 200m's out from the fire front.

"You like fires? Well, here, take a good close look at one & see how much you really like them. Don't worry, we'll try to make it back to you in time to let you loose" >:D

As you said Speewa - the word would spread pretty damned quickly that lighting fires is bad idea >:(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on January 06, 2017, 09:07:31 AM
yep the fires around my new place are worrying. A couple of fires have also been put out with 2 k from house
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 06, 2017, 09:09:21 AM
yep the fires around my new place are worrying. A couple of fires have also been put out with 2 k from house
That's ok, once its burnt its ok for a while...

Park one of these puppys in ya driveway, stock it and learn how to use it
http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/trucks/fire-trucks (http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/trucks/fire-trucks)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on January 06, 2017, 09:19:31 AM
That's ok, once its burnt its ok for a while...

Park one of these puppys in ya driveway, stock it and learn how to use it
http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/trucks/fire-trucks (http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/trucks/fire-trucks)

CFA is 500m away
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 06, 2017, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: Swannie
CFA is 500m away


not if they are already out on a call...or the priority is elsewhere at the time.

http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/private/SSE-AD-4355509/1987-Isuzu-FSR500?cr=3&category=trucks&psq=%28%28%28%28Category%3DTrucks%26SubCategory%3D%5BFire%20Trucks%5D%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3DDealer%20Used%7CSiloType%3DDealer%20New%29%7CSiloType%3DPrivate%20Used%29%7CSiloType%3DDealer%20Near%20New%29%29%26SaleStatus%3D%5BFor%20Sale%5D%29%26Service%3D%5BTrucksales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Price (http://www.trucksales.com.au/buy/private/SSE-AD-4355509/1987-Isuzu-FSR500?cr=3&category=trucks&psq=%28%28%28%28Category%3DTrucks%26SubCategory%3D%5BFire%20Trucks%5D%29%26%28%28%28SiloType%3DDealer%20Used%7CSiloType%3DDealer%20New%29%7CSiloType%3DPrivate%20Used%29%7CSiloType%3DDealer%20Near%20New%29%29%26SaleStatus%3D%5BFor%20Sale%5D%29%26Service%3D%5BTrucksales%5D%29&pso=0&pss=Price)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Swannie on January 06, 2017, 09:23:01 AM
not if they are already out on a call...
Mate, I want be hanging a round if the fires close it can burn to the ground as long as I got the wife, kids, coco & Frankie
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 06, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
Mate, I want be hanging a round if the fires close it can burn to the ground as long as I got the wife, kids, coco & Frankie
hand in ya man card :P
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: ScarpsD40 on January 07, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
1st up against the revolution  ,Shoot 1 & The word Will Spread  :'(

You getting a new mower Jamie?
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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 07, 2017, 01:54:55 PM
That could be me in that pic , far right in the Yellow Jarmies with the Big Red Truck .
  Be Careful out there                     :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on September 24, 2017, 08:37:54 PM
horribly windy here.. hate to be out there tonight
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/real-risk-to-gippsland-as-wind-whips-up-15metre-flames-20170924-gynt5d.html (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/real-risk-to-gippsland-as-wind-whips-up-15metre-flames-20170924-gynt5d.html)


An east Gippsland town is on alert and campers have been evacuated as bushfires burn in Victoria's east.

Burning embers have fallen on Buchan, north of Lakes Entrance, as a bushfire burns three kilometres from the town.
Country Fire Authority Gippsland regional controller Trevor Owen said on Sunday evening there was a "real risk" to Buchan from two fires burning in surrounding bushland.

The town's 400 residents were currently safe, but they had been advised to enact their bushfire survival plans, Mr Owen said.

Mr Owen said six aircraft, 20 tankers and several bulldozers had been deployed to fight four fires in the Gippsland region, with another serious blaze burning further south near Marlo.

The Timbarra fire near Buchan had burnt more than 6500 hectares had a 50-kilometre perimeter, he said.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: AdrianLR on September 24, 2017, 10:19:06 PM
"Mr Owen said it was believed at least three of the four fires were caused by property owners burning off in preparation for the fire season. "

Hot, dry, blasting a gale..........."reckon it's perfect to just reduce a bit of undergrowth....." Oh, dear, who would 'ave thunk that would happen. Idiots.

Cape Conran has also been closed to campers due to the fires on the Cabbage Tree Road. Great start to the school holidays.

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on September 25, 2017, 10:04:56 AM
Quote from: AdrianLR
"Mr Owen said it was believed at least three of the four fires were caused by property owners burning off in preparation for the fire season. "
Hot, dry, blasting a gale..........."reckon it's perfect to just reduce a bit of undergrowth....." Oh, dear, who would 'ave thunk that would happen. Idiots.

Yea that sorta floored me too when I read it. Before the match hit the floor the fire was 30ft away @50kph
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on October 29, 2017, 01:54:30 PM
Hoping nothing happens today its deadly windy outside.. would be horrific to be in the path of it today :(

Don't **** around GTFO early
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on October 29, 2017, 03:04:18 PM
One down near Portland is turning to Shit
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Paddy16 on October 29, 2017, 03:06:51 PM
Not sounding good at all.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on October 29, 2017, 05:16:36 PM
One down near Portland is turning to Shit
One up near Sealake ... in these winds, grass fire would be :o
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on October 29, 2017, 06:07:09 PM
The state is curing nicely & the sward is drying quickly  . Be careful out there .
                                     :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on December 27, 2017, 02:38:43 PM
Right in suburbia...
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/firefighters-tackle-raging-grassfire-in-cheltenham/news-story/02d4c17ee8cb82d0009b8a0ff83ca5dc (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/firefighters-tackle-raging-grassfire-in-cheltenham/news-story/02d4c17ee8cb82d0009b8a0ff83ca5dc)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: ScarpsD40 on January 06, 2018, 10:23:14 AM
Could be interesting in the VHC today. No doubt one of many
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 06, 2018, 10:26:44 AM
False alarm apparently
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 06, 2018, 01:40:18 PM
lts very scary listening to the 50 km gust of very hot wind blow at the roof of the station .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on January 06, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
Just saw this posted on another forum

"Fire helicopters buzzing about above. Looks like a fire around the Pines reserve next to Skye, Melbourne. Smoke is starting to build up"

Stay safe everybody
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on January 06, 2018, 03:16:11 PM
Just saw this posted on another forum

"Fire helicopters buzzing about above. Looks like a fire around the Pines reserve next to Skye, Melbourne. Smoke is starting to build up"

Stay safe everybody

Yep, Langwarrin, can see the smoke from our place.
Ferkin kids light fires in that area as regular as clockwork, little turds
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 06, 2018, 03:17:42 PM
Just saw this posted on another forum

"Fire helicopters buzzing about above. Looks like a fire around the Pines reserve next to Skye, Melbourne. Smoke is starting to build up"

Stay safe everybody

Yup

This Watch & Act message is being issued for Carrum Downs, Frankston North, Langwarrin, Skye.

•There is a bushfire at BLUE WREN RISE, CARRUM DOWNS that is not yet under control.
•The bushfire is travelling in a southerly direction towards Quarry Road.
•This warning replaces the advice issued at 2:50.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lukeycat on January 06, 2018, 08:16:42 PM
We could see the smoke from our place had some friends evacuated in langwarrin but they are allowed back now, was right next to our kids school the cfa set there base up there which made sure the school was pretty well protected. At least one house gone :(


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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 07, 2018, 08:37:09 AM
There's nothing polite I can say here...
https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs (https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on January 07, 2018, 10:21:09 AM
There's nothing polite I can say here...
https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs (https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs)

And the courts will give her and her family a slap on the wrist with a wet tram ticket
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on January 07, 2018, 10:41:16 AM
All the bleeding hearts will come out, she's from a broken home, socially disadvantaged etc etc. The courts should make her work at repairing the damaged caused with the families effected. If she doesn't front or make amends, lock her up and ensure  she is on an arsonists watch list for life.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on January 07, 2018, 11:06:32 AM
And the courts will give her and her family a slap on the wrist with a wet tram ticket

Wow, that much punishment :o

They're really going to throw the book at her >:(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: xcvator on January 07, 2018, 11:21:02 AM
I can remember when kids were setting fire to trains parked at Chelsea, used to happen every few months, same offenders caught untill the courts finally made the family's responsible and they had to make reparations, fire stopped, still get graffitti but no fires 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: DrewXT on January 07, 2018, 11:38:38 AM
There's nothing polite I can say here...
https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs (https://www.vicpolicenews.com.au/news/teenager-charged-following-fire-in-carrum-downs)

**** of a kid - can bet the parents are nowhere to be seen.  Beats me why they grant bail


•The bushfire is travelling in a southerly direction towards Quarry Road.

God I'm glad I sold my house down there when I read these...

I remember talking to the local cops when I lived down there, and they'd pick the kids up, take them home, and Mum and Dad would be stoned or in a drug ****ed stupor, and so the cycle repeats

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2018, 01:56:18 PM
Nasty Shit happening up around Winton and Glenrowan areas..
too late to leave warnings :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 07, 2018, 03:31:17 PM
At present there are 43 unit involved in this gig  & counting , Stay safe out there .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on January 07, 2018, 04:51:20 PM
Thinking of you swaggers in Vic, situation a lot more benign in SA today, hopefully you'll see a change later tonight or early tomorrow.
Stay safe
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2018, 06:04:17 PM
From Emergency Vic site... they have everything

Earthquake
Big Desert, VIC.

Magnitude Magnitude
3.1

Current status  Minor
http://www.ga.gov.au/earthquakes/getQuakeDetails.do?quakeId=4064775&&orid=1590838#terms-of-use (http://www.ga.gov.au/earthquakes/getQuakeDetails.do?quakeId=4064775&&orid=1590838#terms-of-use)
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Last updated  Today at 12:01 AM
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2018, 10:42:46 AM
this could ruin a long weekend

Forest Fire Management Victoria crews continue burning out operations on the Tamboritha-Dingo Hill Track fire, 25kms north of Licola.

The following tracks are closed and will remain closed for the duration of these operations:

Dingo Hill Track
Scrubby Hill Track
Caledonia River Track
Butcher Country Track
Butcher Country Link Track

The Tamboritha, Howitt and Moroka Roads all remain open providing access to numerous visitor locations across the Southern Alps. Access to Wonnangatta Valley also remains open from Licola, Dargo, Mansfield and Myrtleford for the Centenary Event being held on the Homestead Flat. Iconic walking destinations such as Mt Howitt and Tali Karng will also remain open.


(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783634_1881635821910527_4692133979709996155_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEu902CYBhk44Quo1MQJPYxYTB8kfSneeBRwCXcaXKFRvaFEnY2_GS5_h4C9Ie7l_nOlIQEh5NrbxsEjSISX_ra0Ig1coh_Q57p--2BbyIi2A&oh=35639665b4c8ea259957dd38fd40a8ad&oe=5B02E413)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on March 09, 2018, 02:10:39 PM
Do you reckon they could've held of till Tuesday.  ???
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 09, 2018, 02:14:49 PM
Do you reckon they could've held of till Tuesday.  ???
Sometimes you have no choice, you have to hit when the weather conditions are right... then with 31's forecast for weekend, and little rain this month, our crew would have held off.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on March 09, 2018, 03:05:36 PM
Sometimes you have no choice, you have to hit when the weather conditions are right... then with 31's forecast for weekend, and little rain this month, our crew would have held off.

That's why I asked, your a little closer to the conditions.

I am sometimes amazed though at decision NPWS service make in SA sometimes  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brij on March 09, 2018, 10:22:02 PM
this could ruin a long weekend

Forest Fire Management Victoria crews continue burning out operations on the Tamboritha-Dingo Hill Track fire, 25kms north of Licola.

The following tracks are closed and will remain closed for the duration of these operations:

Dingo Hill Track
Scrubby Hill Track
Caledonia River Track
Butcher Country Track
Butcher Country Link Track

The Tamboritha, Howitt and Moroka Roads all remain open providing access to numerous visitor locations across the Southern Alps. Access to Wonnangatta Valley also remains open from Licola, Dargo, Mansfield and Myrtleford for the Centenary Event being held on the Homestead Flat. Iconic walking destinations such as Mt Howitt and Tali Karng will also remain open.


(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/28783634_1881635821910527_4692133979709996155_n.jpg?_nc_eui2=v1%3AAeEu902CYBhk44Quo1MQJPYxYTB8kfSneeBRwCXcaXKFRvaFEnY2_GS5_h4C9Ie7l_nOlIQEh5NrbxsEjSISX_ra0Ig1coh_Q57p--2BbyIi2A&oh=35639665b4c8ea259957dd38fd40a8ad&oe=5B02E413)


I think this is a bushfire that started a few weeks ago. From the description it is under control, but still burning within a controlled perimeter. Would be taking the opportunity to burn out remaining areas during these relatively mild conditions,  so less likely to flare up if conditions deteriorate in coming weeks. Still extremely dry. With no decent rain forecast until June it is still a fair bit of fire season to go.

Peter
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on March 10, 2018, 06:06:53 AM
I think this is a bushfire that started a few weeks ago. From the description it is under control, but still burning within a controlled perimeter. Would be taking the opportunity to burn out remaining areas during these relatively mild conditions,  so less likely to flare up if conditions deteriorate in coming weeks. Still extremely dry. With no decent rain forecast until June it is still a fair bit of fire season to go.

I thought this was a controlled burn...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gordo350 on March 10, 2018, 11:06:37 AM
I think I read somewhere that it started from a unattended campfire
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Tim - Stratford on March 10, 2018, 02:24:49 PM
Yes Peter is correct. It is a bushfire, that they are doing a controlled fire around to contain it hopefully.
I have only read on Facebook that it was a unattended campfire that started it, so who knows, it may be true but maybe not!

Sarah
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 10, 2018, 02:28:57 PM
Yes Peter is correct. It is a bushfire, that they are doing a controlled fire around to contain it hopefully.
I have only read on Facebook that it was a unattended campfire that started it, so who knows, it may be true but maybe not!

Sarah
One step closer to the parks getting their wish to ban campfires.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on March 10, 2018, 03:37:27 PM
One step closer to the parks getting their wish to ban campfires.

Maybe Oct-April I could understand, but surely not year-round??
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 15, 2018, 07:33:04 PM
Ummm   Duck Season  Opening this weekend . Shooters rolling in to there chosen locations , lots of  :cheers: camp fires  43 days of NOF@#KENRAIN  . Dry as a dead dingo donger  Oh did l mention high winds to fan what ever happens  .
 What could possibly go wrong on a weekend of TFB  & high winds ,,,,,,,,,
Might just go camp out in the fire station to reduce our turn out time  .
Don't be Stupid out there  , as it affects a lot of other people not just you       :-*
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on March 15, 2018, 09:32:52 PM
Ummm   Duck Season  Opening this weekend . Shooters rolling in to there chosen locations , lots of  :cheers: camp fires  43 days of NOF@#KENRAIN  . Dry as a dead dingo donger  Oh did l mention high winds to fan what ever happens  .
 What could possibly go wrong on a weekend of TFB  & high winds ,,,,,,,,,
Might just go camp out in the fire station to reduce our turn out time  .
Don't be Stupid out there  , as it affects a lot of other people not just you       :-*

Exactly.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on March 16, 2018, 08:08:30 AM
Ummm   Duck Season  Opening this weekend . Shooters rolling in to there chosen locations , lots of  :cheers: camp fires  43 days of NOF@#KENRAIN  . Dry as a dead dingo donger  Oh did l mention high winds to fan what ever happens  .
 What could possibly go wrong on a weekend of TFB  & high winds ,,,,,,,,,
Might just go camp out in the fire station to reduce our turn out time  .
Don't be Stupid out there  , as it affects a lot of other people not just you       :-*

Let's hope you have a quiet weekend, fingers crossed.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 16, 2018, 09:16:02 AM
Ummm   Duck Season  Opening this weekend . Shooters rolling in to there chosen locations , lots of  :cheers: camp fires  43 days of NOF@#KENRAIN  . Dry as a dead dingo donger  Oh did l mention high winds to fan what ever happens  .
 What could possibly go wrong on a weekend of TFB  & high winds ,,,,,,,,,
Might just go camp out in the fire station to reduce our turn out time  .
Don't be Stupid out there  , as it affects a lot of other people not just you       :-*
we're out at O'Tooles on the weekend... will be in bed by 8 if theres no campfires :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 16, 2018, 07:31:37 PM
Saturday will be TFB ,  Sunday will be worst as it will be hotter . The cure rate is 95% & its hot & dry . l saw 2 River Red gum  trees fighting over a dog this morning .
Hang tight out there    . Strike Teams are at the ready , to go  :-* :-*  Good Luck
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Pottsy on March 16, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
Saturday will be TFB ,  Sunday will be worst as it will be hotter . The cure rate is 95% & its hot & dry . l saw 2 River Red gum  trees fighting over a dog this morning .
Hang tight out there    . Strike Teams are at the ready , to go  :-* :-*  Good Luck
Good news Speewa158. We've had a drought breaking 0.76 of a millimetre in Adelaide today. Hang in there it's on it's way, just don't blink you might miss it. :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 16, 2018, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: speewa158
Saturday will be TFB

Interesting.. when I called parks today they put me through to some 20 word long Gov dept as I was asking about state forest.. he said if we were around mansfield we were out of the TFB area... Told him we were at O'Toole's and he said we should be in the clear, and fires were ok
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 17, 2018, 10:58:09 AM
Don't Do it Young Fellow it might get out of hand   . People will talk about you     >:D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 17, 2018, 11:11:06 AM
Don't Do it Young Fellow it might get out of hand   . People will talk about you     >:D
Im at home... lost interest in going with Shit happening here.. thus selling it all up
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: DrewXT on March 18, 2018, 07:56:50 AM
Im at home... lost interest in going with Shit happening here.. thus selling it all up
:(

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 18, 2018, 11:49:04 AM
fire at Gembrook sounds bad

even worse out warnambool region... houses etc..
https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/too-late-to-leave-severe-fire-danger-as-blazes-rip-through-state-20180318-p4z4wu.html (https://www.smh.com.au/national/victoria/too-late-to-leave-severe-fire-danger-as-blazes-rip-through-state-20180318-p4z4wu.html)

deadly windy here right now... there'd be no stopping a wildfire in this wind.. close to 80
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Skurfer on March 18, 2018, 12:20:37 PM
Interesting.. when I called parks today they put me through to some 20 word long Gov dept as I was asking about state forest.. he said if we were around mansfield we were out of the TFB area... Told him we were at O'Toole's and he said we should be in the clear, and fires were ok

Hi mate. Use this if in doubt: https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/find-your-fire-district (https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/find-your-fire-district)

You can gauge what district you are in and then look to see whether fire restrictions apply to you.

Further to this, and I don't know why CFA make it hard to find, but the can I, can't I brochure is a good resource to have with you so you know what you can and can't do on either a TFB or just a normal day during the declared fire danger period: https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/documents/20143/80821/Can_I_or_Cant_I_brochure_nov_2016.pdf/5e14373f-e64d-3676-bb7b-2685a831a5f8 (https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/documents/20143/80821/Can_I_or_Cant_I_brochure_nov_2016.pdf/5e14373f-e64d-3676-bb7b-2685a831a5f8)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 18, 2018, 12:36:26 PM
sadly lots of buildings and stock losses. hopefully no lives lost...


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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-bushfires-severe-fire-danger-as-blazes-rip-through-southwest-20180318-p4z4wz.html

'Cluster' of fires

The Terang fire, which has so far burnt through 12,000 hectares, is moving in a south-easterly direction towards Timboon.

The Camperdown (Gnotuk) fire is also moving in a south-easterly direction, heading towards Pomborneit.

There is also a fire at Garvoc, which has so far burnt through 5000 hectares.



Quote
For those just joining us, here's what we know:

A number of fires have been burning out of control in Victoria's south-west since Saturday night.

    Homes, sheds and dairy stock around Terang, Camperdown and Cobden have been lost to fires and many more properties remain in harm’s way.
    The 'Terang' fire and 'Gnotuk' fires have burnt out more than 22,000 hectares and may join into a single front as they travel south-east towards Timboon and Pomborneit.
    8200 households and businesses are currently without power, including 6000 at Terang.
    Hundreds of volunteer firefighters working to contain fires burning around Camperdown and Cobden are being hampered by wild westerly winds that are expected to continue throughout Sunday.
    People in the fire’s path are being warned to stay put as it is too dangerous to attempt to leave.
    A number of key roads have been closed






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Community Information - Bushfire
This message is being issued for Arbuckle, Buragwonduc, Crookayan, Glencairn, Licola, Licola North, Mount Buller, Reynard, Tamboritha.

    There is a bushfire  9 KM SW SNOWY RANGE AIRSTRIP and 25kms north of Licola.
    Forest Fire Management Victoria will continue burning out fuel within prepared control lines over coming weeks when weather conditions are suitable.
    These burning out operations will be done by aerial ignition when weather conditions are suitable and may take several weeks to complete.
    Smoke will be visible from nearby communities and roads, and from further afield, depending on weather conditions. This weekend's weather conditions will generate more smoke.

The following tracks are closed and will remain closed for the duration of the burning out operations:
 
Dingo Hill Track
Scrubby Hill Track
Caledonia River Track
Butcher Country Track
Butcher Country Link Track

There is a temporary closure of Howitt Road and visitor sites from Arbuckle Junction to Zeka Spur Track Junction from midday Friday March 16 to midday Monday March 19.

New information: Visitor sites along Kelly Lane are open, but there is no access to Howitt Road.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on March 18, 2018, 12:45:29 PM
Stay safe, everybody :'(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 19, 2018, 09:00:28 AM
from VicPol
- Last night our Air Wing was at the Terang fires where they caught this image. The bright light coming in from bottom left corner is their searchlight (called a Nitesun).

(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/28947011_1927427007329426_3437678508759786882_o.jpg?oh=6cb550addbbdfd5caba73a4004171b02&oe=5B4B4194)

That's intense.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bigfish on March 19, 2018, 11:48:41 AM
Very sad reading of the peoples loss of property Even sadder to know many animals will suffer terribly as well. Houses and property can be replaced. Lives cannot. Fantastic job being done by all state emergency services and all fire fighters, nurses, first aiders and refuge co-ordinators.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 22, 2018, 06:31:50 PM
Standing on the back of a truck watching 9M of flame coming at you at 100Ks per hour ,,,,,
l have only seen 3M of flame coming at me & that was enough to loosen the ,,,,,
To louse your home farm & income in just 1 go it truly overcoming  . Walking around waring  all you own , Geeeeeez that tuff . Think about it .
Step outside with what ever you have at hand & start again  . Please think about those that have lost it all  & consider yourself  lucky                                 :-* :-*
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: woolgoolgaoffroad on March 22, 2018, 06:35:43 PM
pretty sad and until you go through major fires you just dont understand.

We lived on the blue mountains until 1986 and i saw a couple, mum and dad lost everything when i was at school and they ( we just had to start again ), half our street was demolished and it sticks with you for a long time.

Feeling for all down south
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 23, 2018, 08:35:56 AM
Quote from: speewa158
Standing on the back of a truck watching 9M of flame coming at you at 100Ks per hour ,,,,,
l have only seen 3M of flame coming at me & that was enough to loosen the ,,,,,
To louse your home farm & income in just 1 go it truly overcoming  . Walking around waring  all you own , Geeeeeez that tuff . Think about it .
Step outside with what ever you have at hand & start again  . Please think about those that have lost it all  & consider yourself  lucky :-* :-*

At the 2.35 mark of this vids - we were 3rd truck in.. and what you see, is what we saw..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYy5Opj6yHo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYy5Opj6yHo)
"On a scorchingly hot, dry January afternoon in 1994 a fire front tore through Como West, Bonnet Bay and Jannali.
Eighty-seven homes burnt to the ground in about 15 minutes,"


Nearly everything next to the valley was gone. there were 2-3 random houses left standing...  Then to our amazement a roller door opened up on a stand alone brick garage.. and 2 families came out. Ones house was standing, the other was just ash. You cant imagine what was going through either families minds at that exact moment.
There was no water in the mains as the pump station had burnt down. We had 3000ltrs but that wasn't worth Shit at that point.

The lady that died in her pool, the late Marty Keilor (many landy owners would know him) with Peter Evans (being interviewed) and crew got there, Marty jumped in the pool to help but sadly was too late... He greatest teacher in the RFS I ever had.

As most people would say who have experienced it - unless you've lived it, or been in front of a wall of flame like speewa says (or the 70mtr wall of flame reported in blue mountains in the story) - you cant understand how the fire creates its own weather, how erratic it really is and how ****in fast Shit goes down.



Next will be the arseholes complaining about people living near the bush (Tathra etc) should expect this, and why should we pay to support them. These ****s should be put down.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on March 23, 2018, 10:23:54 AM
The aftermath is also worth considering.
With the 2009 fires came an appeal for donations to the victims.
The State Government moved in and took it, the Legals are still fighting and getting paid from it.
The victims, just a dribble to shut them up, and the Insurance Companies have done nearly all the heavy lifting.
And how does a Council qualify as a Victim, apparently they do, now.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on December 07, 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Stupidly Shit weather to be out fighting fires in today


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-bushfires-live-homes-evacuated-as-fast-moving-grass-fire-threatens-little-river-20181207-p50kv1.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victoria-bushfires-live-homes-evacuated-as-fast-moving-grass-fire-threatens-little-river-20181207-p50kv1.html)

"So we've had some success, however, the fire is over 1000 hectares in size currently."
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on December 07, 2018, 04:56:27 PM
Here we go again , 1st TFB of the season  , the grass is dry the dams are low  & its 38C with very low humidity . Stay safe out there people  .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 07, 2018, 05:31:15 PM
Fires in the Lara area, apparently started in 3 or more places.
Tell us that's an 'Act of God', go on.  Not Fekin Likely.
Hope everyone's ok down there, pity the 'Fireys' working in that heat.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lukeycat on December 07, 2018, 08:54:25 PM
Fires in the Lara area, apparently started in 3 or more places.
Tell us that's an 'Act of God', go on.  Not Fekin Likely.
Hope everyone's ok down there, pity the 'Fireys' working in that heat.
One of our sites got evacuated today out that way guys were packing up anyway due to the heat and doing asbestos works in suits etc but said it all happened pretty quick.


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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 04, 2019, 12:49:32 PM
https://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#

One looking reasonable around Jamieson/Kevington area...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 04, 2019, 02:27:43 PM
Well it 45C , dry as a chip , gusting up to 65Km  , TFB across the state  what could possibly go wrong .

There are a whole bunch of Fire fighters with a knotted gut  just waiting for the call .
                               Be Safe Out There                                      :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 04, 2019, 10:36:50 PM
The rosedale fire looks particularly nasty

(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.883%2C$multiply_1%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_72/t_crop_custom/w_780/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto%2Cdpr_auto/b7d8770c751ad94454292eb3c4876115ac2af393)

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/homes-and-lives-under-threat-as-bushfire-burns-in-state-s-east-20190104-p50pon.html#comments (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/homes-and-lives-under-threat-as-bushfire-burns-in-state-s-east-20190104-p50pon.html#comments)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on January 05, 2019, 01:41:59 PM
& the weather report Today 23C  windy this morn & rain in the arvo  . Who writes this crap  ???
But it was 46C yesterday        :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2019, 01:43:58 PM
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rosedale-fire-warning-for-residents-in-willung-to-urgently-seek-shelter-20190107-p50q01.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/rosedale-fire-warning-for-residents-in-willung-to-urgently-seek-shelter-20190107-p50q01.html)
(https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_1.127%2C$multiply_1%2C$ratio_1.776846%2C$width_1059%2C$x_0%2C$y_110/t_crop_custom/w_1024/t_sharpen%2Cq_auto%2Cf_auto%2Cdpr_auto/87ae6a8b8fed3ae57cf014037b80ea8bca238682)

EMERGENCY WARNING for WILLUNG - bushfire travelling in a south-westerly direction towards Willung & is threatening homes & lives. You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive. The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 14, 2019, 01:09:55 PM

"Just spoke to Cam at the Matlock tower.
He said he is very concerned. And it has already spread.
There is now 2 fires.

He said they are sending water bombers to it as we speak."

http://www.emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/?&bbox=145.9966278076172%2C-37.451422169128534%2C146.69700622558594%2C-37.1564859020455&tm=1546426998083&fbclid=IwAR2Z5QyUNhgbLxKXTO0oZXInaYVzBGHAB6WQQHK_x-cSFM0XmHsyvQI1rSg# (http://www.emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/?&bbox=145.9966278076172%2C-37.451422169128534%2C146.69700622558594%2C-37.1564859020455&tm=1546426998083&fbclid=IwAR2Z5QyUNhgbLxKXTO0oZXInaYVzBGHAB6WQQHK_x-cSFM0XmHsyvQI1rSg#)!/incident/ESTA:190104449

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on January 25, 2019, 11:53:22 AM
****in horrible day with this wind

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/residents-urged-to-flee-out-of-control-bushfire-in-east-gippsland-20190125-p50tln.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/residents-urged-to-flee-out-of-control-bushfire-in-east-gippsland-20190125-p50tln.html)


https://twitter.com/vicemergency (https://twitter.com/vicemergency)

An EMERGENCY WARNING has been issued for GILLINGALL. Residents in the area could be impacted anytime within the next few hours. Leaving now is the safest option. Emergency Services may not be able to help if you decide to stay. Stay up to date: http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/# (http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/#)!/warning/6046/moreinfo … #VicFires

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Champin on January 25, 2019, 06:53:42 PM
7 fires at Aberfieldy. Think thats where they started a few years ago.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on January 27, 2019, 06:17:20 AM
7 fires at Aberfieldy. Think thats where they started a few years ago.

Yup

This Advice message is being issued for Aberfeldy, Jericho, Red Jacket, Sullivans, Swingler, Thomson, Toner, Toombon, Matlock.

This Advice message replaces the Watch & Act Message issued at 6.45pm.

There is a bushfire 6km South of Matlock that is not yet under control.

The bushfire is travelling in a south-easterly direction towards the Thompson Dam.

Fire activity has decreased as a result of the weather.

CFA Tankers will remain in the Aberfeldy area overnight patrolling the area.

People are encouraged to call 000 if they see unattended flames.

Campers and travellers in the area should pay close attention to the situation.

There is currently no threat to you, but you should stay informed and monitor conditions.

What you should do:
Monitor warnings so you can act quickly if the situation changes.
Monitor changes to the situation. Increased wind speed, change in wind direction, smoke or poor visibility can indicate the situation is changing.
Review your fire survival plan.

Impacts in your area:
The Thompson Valley Road between Thompson Dam Access Road and the Nine Mile Road is closed.
Walhalla Road north of the Thompson Dam Access Road is closed.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Brij on January 27, 2019, 08:49:02 PM
7 fires at Aberfieldy. Think thats where they started a few years ago.

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Jan 2013, a small burnoff got away from a property in Aberfeldy and overnight travelled about 50kms (as the crow flys) into Seaton towards Heyfield, Glenmaggie. A phenomenal travel speed apparently caused by specific, but not overly common, atmospheric conditions producing perfect localised wind speed and low humidity conditions.

Surprised many seasoned fire personal  (management and on ground).

Including me. Went to bed thinking nothing of it because it wasn't all that hot, or windy.

In fact right at moment is not hot, or windy either......  ??? ???

And the Timbarra fire burnt a heap Friday. Now almost to the Gelantipy Road. Hopefully they might be able to slow it down a bit when it gets into the grazing land.

Going to be a long season I think.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Champin on January 27, 2019, 09:06:51 PM
Brother lives at Seaton and managed to save his house through good management through that fire. He's even more cautious now. Got pumps and sprinklers everywhere. Still puts him on edge when the fires are close. Situation can change pretty quick.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 02, 2019, 04:31:56 PM
****in horrible out there today
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/too-late-to-leave-bushfires-out-of-control-south-east-of-melbourne-20190202-p50vaj.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/too-late-to-leave-bushfires-out-of-control-south-east-of-melbourne-20190202-p50vaj.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 03, 2019, 11:02:39 AM
This week marks the 10 year anniversary of the Black Saturday fires, the worst natural disaster in Victoria's history.

It is a time of reflection, of that week of atrocious 40+ degree weather, and that fateful Saturday late afternoon when 173 people lost their lives. A large number of people perished in Kinglake and Marysville, both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires (https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on February 03, 2019, 11:05:00 AM
both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

Yeah, we'll start right here.

You OK?
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: rags on February 03, 2019, 11:37:43 AM
Thanks D4D, I read the 3 ABC articles , great reads.

I didn't live through the Victoria fires and so don't know how those who did coped then and now.
I have however  lived through and been impacted by 3 fires into the Blue Mts, with one being particularly frightening. The cost of living in an elevated position on top of a western and northern slope ( with uninterrupted views) comes with a costs. It was foremost in our mines when my wife an I were contemplating moving from the mountains to SEQ.  The stress through the unknown of whether a fire will impact you is tremendous.

The positives of this is that you also live in and unite in a community that has the local RFS/ CFA brigade as the focal point of that community  whether you are a volunteer or not. Being a volunteer is a great rewarding community experience.

It is something which I dearly miss now living in a suburb.
To those who are remembering the events of 10 years ago, I am thinking of you and hope you are ok.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 03, 2019, 01:30:54 PM
Yeah, we'll start right here.

You OK?

Thanks for asking, I certainly have some thoughts and reflection this time each year. That said, I was in no way impacted the way the residents were. They still need our help and visitation. You cannot imagine what they have been through, all we can offer is a chat and to lend a hand if they need something done.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on February 04, 2019, 08:49:15 AM
Being a volunteer is a great rewarding community experience.

It is something which I dearly miss now living in a suburb.


You can still volunteer if you want to Rags :D

Here's a couple of options, fairly close to home

http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/ (http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/)

https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/ (https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/)

Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: rags on February 04, 2019, 10:14:43 AM
You can still volunteer if you want to Rags :D

Here's a couple of options, fairly close to home

http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/ (http://marinerescueqld.org.au/locations/vmr-brisbane/)

https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/ (https://coastguard.com.au/flotilla/qf3-redcliffe/)


Thanks Fizzie, Im aware that I can still volunteer, I have thought about joining a local fire brigade but they are not in my community. I am on a community mowing and general maintainance roster organised organised through a local church.

My comment about what I miss was not about being unable to volunteer, it was about living in a suburb of a large metropolitan area as oppose to a village community.
Where I live we have either newer homes on building blocks or larger properties on small acreage. My experience is that everyone live behind closed doors and or electric gates. Once home you do not see anyone. I often joke when people ask where I live, I reply that I'm in the shack down by the river, you won't miss it, it's the only property in the district without a front fence or electric gate.

A village community is one where you know lots of people in your community, who lookout and care about each other. My old community had 5 pillars of contact, a small school, a church, a shop, a pub and the fire shed. Hang around one of these places and you will be absorbed by the community.
If I needed to bend a bit of sheet metal there was someone who had a bender in their shed that I could pop around and use, the same if you wanted to machine  up a bit of metal, borrow a dingo, get an extension ladder etc. It is through community participation that the village strives.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on February 04, 2019, 07:07:28 PM
As an active fire fighter in the CFA l jump on the truck at what ever the hour & head off .
 This is my choice to be a Vol & active  , but that's not the only way .  You don't have to put the Wet stuff on the Hot stuff to contribute  .
There are so many ways to be involved as a Vol , all of which are of real value .

Go have a chat to the Captain on your possible roles  .  lt could be fun to get involved  :laugh: :cheers:
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 04, 2019, 07:17:23 PM
This week marks the 10 year anniversary of the Black Saturday fires, the worst natural disaster in Victoria's history.

It is a time of reflection, of that week of atrocious 40+ degree weather, and that fateful Saturday late afternoon when 173 people lost their lives. A large number of people perished in Kinglake and Marysville, both places close to me.

If you know people who were in any way impacted by the fires, reach out to them this week and ask them if they're ok.

https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires (https://www.vic.gov.au/2009-bushfires)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-02-01/black-saturday-anniversary-bushy-places-kinglake/10554052)
bit more on it
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ten-years-on-victoria-remembers-black-day-infinite-acts-of-kindness-20190204-p50vm6.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ten-years-on-victoria-remembers-black-day-infinite-acts-of-kindness-20190204-p50vm6.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: rags on February 04, 2019, 07:28:23 PM
As an active fire fighter in the CFA l jump on the truck at what ever the hour & head off .
 This is my choice to be a Vol & active  , but that's not the only way .  You don't have to put the Wet stuff on the Hot stuff to contribute  .
There are so many ways to be involved as a Vol , all of which are of real value .

Go have a chat to the Captain on your possible roles  .  lt could be fun to get involved  :laugh: :cheers:

Speewa I am aware of what it takes to be a volunteer , I did it for 25 plus years before moving.
I haven't bothered up here because 1 there is no local brigade and 2 I don't see why I have to do training all over again to volunteer in QLD. I will happily return to help the local brigade back in the Blue Mts if and when a fire happens.
Again I was merely saying that communities usually have a local brigade, a suburb doesn't.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 04, 2019, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: rags
2 I don't see why I have to do training all over again to volunteer in QLD.
yea must admit it does take the shine off it - I was an accredited trainer with em but have to start again.  but its a small price to pay I reckon.. if I had 2 legs and was fit I'd think about it.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 04, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
bit more on it
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ten-years-on-victoria-remembers-black-day-infinite-acts-of-kindness-20190204-p50vm6.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/ten-years-on-victoria-remembers-black-day-infinite-acts-of-kindness-20190204-p50vm6.html)

You can watch the service here https://livestream.com/dpcmultimedia/2009-bushfires (https://livestream.com/dpcmultimedia/2009-bushfires)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on February 05, 2019, 09:41:26 AM
Thanks Fizzie, Im aware that I can still volunteer,

Sorry mate, misunderstood :-[

Agree with you entirely about not having a community in the suburbs, where no-one wants to know anyone else :'(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 07, 2019, 10:05:30 AM
(https://www.vic.gov.au/system/user_files/Images/Content/10%20Year%20Anniversary.jpg)

Lots of reflection today on what was a tragic and devastating event in many peoples and communities lives. My thoughts are with everybody and anybody involved on that day.

There are many stories of the rebuilding of physical assets and communities to come from that day, this one resonated with me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqKufUgkgY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TqKufUgkgY)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2019, 01:30:26 PM
This is amazing.

https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2019/black-saturday-kilmore-to-murrindindi-the-devastating-bushfires-line-of-destruction-10-years-ago/?resizable=true (https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2019/black-saturday-kilmore-to-murrindindi-the-devastating-bushfires-line-of-destruction-10-years-ago/?resizable=true)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on February 07, 2019, 01:51:43 PM
This is amazing.

https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2019/black-saturday-kilmore-to-murrindindi-the-devastating-bushfires-line-of-destruction-10-years-ago/?resizable=true (https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2019/black-saturday-kilmore-to-murrindindi-the-devastating-bushfires-line-of-destruction-10-years-ago/?resizable=true)


Thanks, that was very interesting.

A CFA view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOQ6GexX6o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOQ6GexX6o)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on February 07, 2019, 07:14:25 PM
Thanks, that was very interesting.

A CFA view https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOQ6GexX6o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdOQ6GexX6o)
I can remember taking my daughter up to Albury, on I think it was the Tuesday, to start uni and thought at the time that the firerys would have been hoping they could have got hold of it at the Hume Fwy but it had blasted straight across it like it wasnt there.
That link if Birds shows the classic Victorian bush fire, gets blown rapidly south by stinking hot northerlies then the south wester cool change comes thru and turns the whole flank into the front, seen the same thing happen at Beaconsfield on Ash Wednesday , the north east is a scary place to be when that change hits. Thank you both for posting the links, brings back a lot of not so nice memories, but we are the lucky ones, hope we don't see another like that one gor a long time

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: austastar on February 07, 2019, 07:43:36 PM



...... the classic Victorian bush fire, gets blown rapidly south by stinking hot northerlies then the south wester cool change comes thru and turns the whole flank into the front ......
Hi,
   That is the exact scenario that happened at 4pm with the 67 bushfires in Tasmania.
Cheers


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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 01, 2019, 09:12:25 PM
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/two-bushfires-burning-south-east-of-melbourne-as-temperatures-soar-20190301-p511a2.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/two-bushfires-burning-south-east-of-melbourne-as-temperatures-soar-20190301-p511a2.html)

Very sleepless night for some ... its nasty hot here at moment...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 02, 2019, 11:04:29 AM
Not looking good down there
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 02, 2019, 11:07:10 AM
Not looking good down there
hot and windy as Shit... :(

not good around Tynong/Noogee
3mins ago:

Emergency Warning - Bushfire
Location
   Bunyip North, Cornucopia, Garfield North, Maryknoll, Tonimbuk, Tynong North, Bunyip, Garfield, Gembrook, Gentle Annie, Labertouche, Longwarry North, Nar Nar Goon North, Tynong


    There are multiple bushfires in and around the Bunyip State Park that are out of control.
    Warm weather overnight contributed to unpredictable fire conditions causing the bushfire to spread in many directions.
    This fire is threatening homes and lives.
    There are over 25 CFA and 15 FFMV trucks working the fire 
    Aircraft are water bombing this fire througout the day

You are in danger and need to act immediately to survive.

The safest option is to take shelter indoors immediately. It is too late to leave.


A relief centre is open at the Pakenham Hall, cnr John St and Henry St.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 02, 2019, 12:24:59 PM
Yep, been looking at some of the feeds on facebook. 

All we can hope for is that one day the pendulum swings back to allow hazard reduction, by either burn or grazing. 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Champin on March 02, 2019, 12:41:31 PM
Not looking real flash around Bunyip(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/ca776a0ac6dd84adfea8aa35782583dd.jpg)

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 02, 2019, 12:47:10 PM
Don't know how much truth or fact is in it but if it is the case it would make you a tad annoyed. 

https://www.facebook.com/tori.meyer.9/posts/2455229701168333 (https://www.facebook.com/tori.meyer.9/posts/2455229701168333)

"It’s very upsetting when dad gets a phone call wanting his machines to go help fight in the fires but can’t go as the greenies have tied themselves to it, have they thought about all the poor people, houses, animals or buildings that dad could potentially save! Selfish pricks."
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 02, 2019, 12:59:53 PM
All the helicopters came overhead on the way back to Moorabbin last nite and were on the way back early this morning

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 02, 2019, 01:18:00 PM
Quote from: alnjan
"It’s very upsetting when dad gets a phone call wanting his machines to go help fight in the fires but can’t go as the greenies have tied themselves to it,
easily fixed, drive over the ****s
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 02, 2019, 03:10:01 PM
Following last night’s community bushfire meeting we wish to advise that unless you have an ESSENTIAL need to be in Walhalla this weekend we would advise you stay away for 72 hours.
The railway is closed for the weekend, the ghost tours has been cancelled, cafes and most accommodation will be closed.
This is advice only, however perhaps it would be wise to heed the advice and venture somewhere else this weekend if you have to get away.
We look forward to seeing you in Walhalla soon and apologies for any inconvenience.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Foo on March 02, 2019, 04:00:30 PM
easily fixed, drive over the ****s

To much paperwork to do that, these days.  :angel:

Foo
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 03, 2019, 10:53:59 AM
the wind change that predicted sarvo could be bad
Houses lost :(

4 fronts have joined up now :(


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-bushfires-live-more-homes-will-be-lost-as-massive-blazes-at-bunyip-gembrook-burn-authorities-say-20190303-p511fo.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-bushfires-live-more-homes-will-be-lost-as-massive-blazes-at-bunyip-gembrook-burn-authorities-say-20190303-p511fo.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 03, 2019, 01:28:45 PM
Going to be savage when the souwester  hits, it's starting to cool down a bit now so won't be long,  can only hopes it brings a bit of rain but not likely much. That part of the VHC is not looking good. Big fleet of choppers headed down about 9 am. Nephew is a CFA operations controller based in Pakenham, niece said she hadn't  heard from him in 24 hours now, I said to her he may be a teensy bit busy ATM

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on March 03, 2019, 01:30:44 PM
Yup, that flank is going to turn into a front and run into the towns. It is not going to be pretty.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 03, 2019, 02:15:25 PM
https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/02/14/55/melbourne-news-bushfires-victoria-bunyip-state-park (https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/02/14/55/melbourne-news-bushfires-victoria-bunyip-state-park)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 03, 2019, 03:16:09 PM
not good
In immediate danger
By Erin Pearson

Houses on Wrights Road and Sanders Road in Garfield North are in immediate danger with home owners calling 000 for help. A building is also understood to have gone up in flames on Mitchell Road in Bunyip North in the last 30 minutes.





However senior forecaster from the Bureau of Meteorology, Rod Dickson, says a cool change is expected to hit the Bunyip area between 10 and 11pm tonight, changing the fire's trajectory to the north-east.

The fire will likely begin moving to the townships of Labertouche and Tonimbuk.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-bushfires-live-more-homes-will-be-lost-as-massive-blazes-at-bunyip-gembrook-burn-authorities-say-20190303-p511fo.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/victorian-bushfires-live-more-homes-will-be-lost-as-massive-blazes-at-bunyip-gembrook-burn-authorities-say-20190303-p511fo.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 03, 2019, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: D4D
Yup, that flank is going to turn into a front and run into the towns. It is not going to be pretty.

All the wind etc has stopped here... very eerily quiet and still...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: SJindustries on March 03, 2019, 06:41:24 PM
Just rang vicnug to let em know they are more than welcomed at our place if they need to move quickly with the expected wind changes
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Kangaron on March 03, 2019, 07:33:58 PM
I did the same for some friends, Gembrook has an evacuation alert.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 03, 2019, 09:11:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/DoreenCFA/videos/vb.100638230010817/539967399828718/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/DoreenCFA/videos/vb.100638230010817/539967399828718/?type=2&theater)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Fizzie on March 04, 2019, 08:14:52 AM
Please stay safe everybody!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 04, 2019, 08:56:06 AM
They copped a bit of a lucky break down here last nite, the cool change came thru but not the expected wind and what breeze they did get came  from the SSE so blew it back on itself, that has given them a tiny bit of time, bad thing is the wind is expected to pick up from the south west later today or tomorrow,  if that happens it will turn it back into the high country. It is not over by a long shot unless we get rain

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 04, 2019, 09:30:03 AM
Don't know how much truth or fact is in it but if it is the case it would make you a tad annoyed. 

https://www.facebook.com/tori.meyer.9/posts/2455229701168333 (https://www.facebook.com/tori.meyer.9/posts/2455229701168333)

"It’s very upsetting when dad gets a phone call wanting his machines to go help fight in the fires but can’t go as the greenies have tied themselves to it, have they thought about all the poor people, houses, animals or buildings that dad could potentially save! Selfish pricks."

Had time, so I went chasing links through Facebook on this matter. 

Apparently ABC Gippsland had tagged the Victorian Forest Alliance into the post seeking comment from them.  What followed was the Victorian Forest Alliance making numerous threats of legal action if the post was not removed, claiming the family owning the logging machinery of telling lies, stating the protester/s left the sit immediately on being asked so the machines could be used in fighting the fire. 

"Here is the story of what really happened:
Statement is that those at the blockade have complied with all requests from the police. The possum (treesitter) was out of the tree as quickly as possible, access was granted for tray trucks to come in and remove 3 pieces of heavy equipment needed at the time to fight a fire at Wallaby Creek 3 kms away. The Wallaby Creek Fire is since under control. The equipment will be used on other fires. Many of these fires are reported to be lit by a firebug.
How stupid/irresponsible is it that this piece of news was allowed out today? Doesn’t it show that the floggers will use anything to lie & paint an inaccurate picture? It wears badly on them. shame!"



What they don't say though is that process took most of the day.  The request and 'immediate' action by protesters was after Police had to be involved.  It was only after the Police arrived on scene to tell the Protesters there was a fire and the family had been asked to use their machines to assist in fighting the fire that the Protesters 'immediately' left the sit and 'allowed' the machines to be taken to help fight the fires. 

"they wanted the machines early in the day it was at night/very late afternoon before they could float the machines away. I know the family who reported it to the abc. It’s also the second tree sit they have done in a couple of months. There is no misinformation as abc called and spoke to the Meyers"

Always three sides to every story and it still looks like the protesters and Victorian Forest Alliance still are at a loss. 

 https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=victorian%20forest%20alliance&epa=SEARCH_BOX (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=victorian%20forest%20alliance&epa=SEARCH_BOX)   For those on Facebook that may like to read the posts.

Especially with things like this. 

" Victorian Forest Alliance I expect ABC Gippsland will be receiving a legal letter shortly. This kind of rubbish journalism is unacceptable & needs to be rectified or removed. It incites violence which is malpractice & grossly irresponsible. FCV has a strong case here."


and  an interview 

https://www.3aw.com.au/protesting-greenies-prevent-romsey-man-from-fighting-fires/ (https://www.3aw.com.au/protesting-greenies-prevent-romsey-man-from-fighting-fires/)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 09:37:29 AM
how about this for fukced

Police reportedly nabbing drivers fleeing fires

There are reports police from the Cardinia Highway Patrol were nabbing drivers with a radar gun on the weekend for speeding as they fled bushfires.

One motorist named Terry told 3AW he was pulled over eight kilometres out of Dargo, where a bushfire is raging, for driving 8km/h over the speed limit.

Another caller said he knew of a man who was stopped by police for driving an unregistered truck and trailer which was fully loaded with horses rescued from the fires.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 04, 2019, 09:41:49 AM
how about this for fukced

Police reportedly nabbing drivers fleeing fires

There are reports police from the Cardinia Highway Patrol were nabbing drivers with a radar gun on the weekend for speeding as they fled bushfires.

One motorist named Terry told 3AW he was pulled over eight kilometres out of Dargo, where a bushfire is raging, for driving 8km/h over the speed limit.

Another caller said he knew of a man who was stopped by police for driving an unregistered truck and trailer which was fully loaded with horses rescued from the fires.


Just makes you wander what planet some people are from
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 10:09:18 AM

Just makes you wander what planet some people are from
saving lives... $$ at a time.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 10:19:12 AM
Had time, so I went chasing links through Facebook on this matter. 

Apparently ABC Gippsland had tagged the Victorian Forest Alliance into the post seeking comment from them.  What followed was the Victorian Forest Alliance making numerous threats of legal action if the post was not removed, claiming the family owning the logging machinery of telling lies, stating the protester/s left the sit immediately on being asked so the machines could be used in fighting the fire. 

"Here is the story of what really happened:
Statement is that those at the blockade have complied with all requests from the police. The possum (treesitter) was out of the tree as quickly as possible, access was granted for tray trucks to come in and remove 3 pieces of heavy equipment needed at the time to fight a fire at Wallaby Creek 3 kms away. The Wallaby Creek Fire is since under control. The equipment will be used on other fires. Many of these fires are reported to be lit by a firebug.
How stupid/irresponsible is it that this piece of news was allowed out today? Doesn’t it show that the floggers will use anything to lie & paint an inaccurate picture? It wears badly on them. shame!"



What they don't say though is that process took most of the day.  The request and 'immediate' action by protesters was after Police had to be involved.  It was only after the Police arrived on scene to tell the Protesters there was a fire and the family had been asked to use their machines to assist in fighting the fire that the Protesters 'immediately' left the sit and 'allowed' the machines to be taken to help fight the fires. 

"they wanted the machines early in the day it was at night/very late afternoon before they could float the machines away. I know the family who reported it to the abc. It’s also the second tree sit they have done in a couple of months. There is no misinformation as abc called and spoke to the Meyers"

Always three sides to every story and it still looks like the protesters and Victorian Forest Alliance still are at a loss. 

 https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=victorian%20forest%20alliance&epa=SEARCH_BOX (https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=victorian%20forest%20alliance&epa=SEARCH_BOX)   For those on Facebook that may like to read the posts.

Especially with things like this. 

" Victorian Forest Alliance I expect ABC Gippsland will be receiving a legal letter shortly. This kind of rubbish journalism is unacceptable & needs to be rectified or removed. It incites violence which is malpractice & grossly irresponsible. FCV has a strong case here."


and  an interview 

https://www.3aw.com.au/protesting-greenies-prevent-romsey-man-from-fighting-fires/ (https://www.3aw.com.au/protesting-greenies-prevent-romsey-man-from-fighting-fires/)
should have been an ferocious ember attack from below the tent  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 11:42:10 AM
Check the comments Shit like

"When will the Victorian government learn that burning fossil fuels is the root cause of such disasters?


These fires are a small taste of what is to come if Australia does not take up nuclear and hydrogen energy technologies."

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-express-live-coverage-of-victoria-s-bushfires-20190304-p511il.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/melbourne-express-live-coverage-of-victoria-s-bushfires-20190304-p511il.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 04, 2019, 12:39:48 PM
Then you have this flog

https://omny.fm/shows/mornings-with-neil-mitchell/jake-mckenzie-from-forest-conservation-victoria-de?fbclid=IwAR0QDlPZ0Mc73ap_H1-k9rYzDDko7MhzVKwQnVUSmScHxOkUJ6RridtqccA

Gardner my arse. 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: doc evil on March 04, 2019, 01:07:20 PM
Then you have this flog

https://omny.fm/shows/mornings-with-neil-mitchell/jake-mckenzie-from-forest-conservation-victoria-de?fbclid=IwAR0QDlPZ0Mc73ap_H1-k9rYzDDko7MhzVKwQnVUSmScHxOkUJ6RridtqccA

Gardner my arse.

Jeeez, Neil took him to pieces...………and the flog recons cutting trees down causes fires...…...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 01:28:50 PM
Jeeez, Neil took him to pieces...………and the flog recons cutting trees down causes fires...…...
the other one thinks coal power fire stations does.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 03:01:09 PM
This one will throw a few spanners in teh works.......


The popular Wilsons Promontory national park will be closed for the upcoming Labour Day long weekend with the 239 hectare fire burning 3.5 kilometres north of Tidal River.

Campers who have booked accommodation and day visitors will not be allowed into the park.
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/thousands-of-campers-evacuated-from-wilsons-promontory-ahead-of-long-weekend-20190304-p511ng.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/thousands-of-campers-evacuated-from-wilsons-promontory-ahead-of-long-weekend-20190304-p511ng.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on March 04, 2019, 03:03:02 PM
The popular Wilsons Promontory national park will be closed for the upcoming Labour Day long weekend with the 239 hectare fire burning 3.5 kilometres north of Tidal River.

Yeah I just read that, unprecedented.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 03:10:32 PM
Yeah I just read that, unprecedented.
book 12mths in advance... 5 hour drive with angry tired kids and angry wife... turn up at the gates to find them locked LMAO!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: whitey001 on March 04, 2019, 03:51:53 PM
Just heard some good news that a friend of mine who lives in Garfield Nth has got back to find their house still standing.  Looks like they lost a shed, fences, hedges & scorched a few trees and had got the animals out before it hit.  From the photos it got very close to the house.  Top work by the CFA and everyone involved.

Al.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
Just heard some good news that a friend of mine who lives in Garfield Nth has got back to find their house still standing.  Looks like they lost a shed, fences, hedges & scorched a few trees and had got the animals out before it hit.  From the photos it got very close to the house.  Top work by the CFA and everyone involved.

Al.
awesome news... :)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 04:03:22 PM
some lightning in this lot :(

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR493.loop.shtml#skip (http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR493.loop.shtml#skip)


Severe thunderstorm warning
By Edward Wong

A severe thunderstorm warning for damaging winds and heavy rainfall has been issued by the Bureau of Meteorology.

Severe thunderstorms are likely to produce damaging winds and heavy rainfall that may lead to flash flooding over the next several hours in locations including:

    Bendigo
    Shepparton
    Seymour
    Wodonga
    Wangaratta
    Bairnsdale
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 04, 2019, 05:07:44 PM
Just heard some good news that a friend of mine who lives in Garfield Nth has got back to find their house still standing.  Looks like they lost a shed, fences, hedges & scorched a few trees and had got the animals out before it hit.  From the photos it got very close to the house.  Top work by the CFA and everyone involved.

Al.
Probably have the choppers to thank for saving the house, they are fantastic, show up just when you need them. Few years ago at the Riddles Creek  fire we had all but lost the fight to save the house (not mine) flames were within two metres of the house, two choppers dropped down and dumped their loads and saved the house, we were very greatfull I can tell you. When we got a chance for a bit of a break we stood there in awe watching them  drop in and save house after house
Don't get me wrong the boys on the ground do a terrific job too

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 05:16:13 PM
huge fire between eastlink and frankstond ande road near the cemetry

****in HUGE smoke etc, and emergency warning for Bangholme :o thats Dandenong!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 04, 2019, 05:22:32 PM
Boys at Jayco might be a bit nervous

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 04, 2019, 05:26:17 PM
Boys at Jayco might be a bit nervous

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 04, 2019, 05:43:29 PM
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Didn't take them long to get on top of that one, hit  it hard with the choppers

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 05, 2019, 07:26:02 AM
l have spent a day & night shift on Tarcombe RD out of Avenal  . Steep rocky dry& that's the good part of that fire ground .The only thing that was going well was the chopper & fixed wing units with water & fir retardant  . Seems to be settling down a bit  . Stay safe out there .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 05, 2019, 08:52:01 AM
Not having a go at the fire crews on the ground, I know they are told what and where to go by those further up the chain. 
Reading some of the media stories coming out of the fires, it sounds a bit like someone might have some questions to answer.  The crews on the ground are generally all to eager to go and do their job, some maybe a little too keen.  But if reports are right that fire crews are parked up not doing anything while properties are burning, that just doesn't sound right. 

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates (https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 05, 2019, 09:03:30 AM
Quote from: alnjan
Not having a go at the fire crews on the ground, I know they are told what and where to go by those further up the chain. 
Reading some of the media stories coming out of the fires, it sounds a bit like someone might have some questions to answer.  The crews on the ground are generally all to eager to go and do their job, some maybe a little too keen.  But if reports are right that fire crews are parked up not doing anything while properties are burning, that just doesn't sound right. 

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates (https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates)

heard that yesterday on news.. trucks all pulled up where 7 people had stayed to fight, didnt lose a house in their street but they were extremely pissed off when the fireys turned up they all grabbed their mobiles and started takin photos...
I don't believe the story on 'unions' etc...

I know when any crew I worked with - my own or with interstaters, when we arrived at a scene, the captain would assess while we grabbed the gear and we'd be into it within minutes.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 05, 2019, 09:19:36 AM
I'm not a firey  but unfortunately for some I can understand why they have  to go where they are told for their own safety. I have been involved in a few fires and was talking to a CFA captain in Warrenbaine Vic a few years ago and they lost touch with a truck for three hours because they had taken it on their own back to go and save a house, he said that they had to redirect a large number of units to go and find them and make sure they were safe, very hilly area and they had lost radio contact. The CFA are pretty clear that they can't have units at every house and if you are going to stay and fight you should do it on the understanding you may be alone. From what I've seen the choppers do what they can to save as many houses as they can. I also think that a person who has just lost their house, property, livestock is very emotional and vulnerable to attacks from these news vultures that are hanging around waiting to pounce

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 05, 2019, 10:02:48 AM
Quote from: macca
is very emotional and vulnerable to attacks from these news vultures that are hanging around waiting to pounce
THIS x LOTS

I posted a comment on this page...
https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/wind-and-lightning-fuel-flames-towns-remain-under-threat-20190305-p511qv.html#comments (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/wind-and-lightning-fuel-flames-towns-remain-under-threat-20190305-p511qv.html#comments)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Spada on March 05, 2019, 10:19:05 AM
I find the reporters dressed like firemen even more offensive that the reporters in raincoats.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: db on March 05, 2019, 05:32:53 PM
Media on the fireground are supposed to wear PPE for their protection. That's sometimes loosely interpreted, as I don't think high heels are generally classed as PPE.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 05, 2019, 06:22:50 PM
Sadly reporters on fire ground should be required to be wearing Yellows  , l do hope they have done Min Skills . Minimum  Skills is the 1st course to become a Wild Fire ,Fire  Fighter . That should get them on fire ground with a basic understanding of where they are . Then reporters can at the very least give a report that can be as accurate  as possible .
l personally wear Oliver boots as dispensed by the CFA as PPEs & Yellows  ,.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: lukeycat on March 05, 2019, 07:03:32 PM
Didn't take them long to get on top of that one, hit  it hard with the choppers

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Watched this one from home about 2 clicks away put the wind up the wife a bit when the alerts came through on the app but when she worked out where it was she wasn't too concerned. They had to evacuate a retirement village but no damage to property which was good, what blew me away was all the rubber neckers parked along a road adjacent to eastlink watching the fire, I'm not sure why people think it's a good idea to go and watch a fast moving grass fire down wind of it bloody idiots.


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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Kangaron on March 05, 2019, 07:08:57 PM
I was cruising down Eastlink as the choppers arrived. All of a sudden 100kph became 25kph. Then once the fire was out of peripheral vision back to 100. I did notice lots of cars parked up watching. One d!ckhead was standing on his roofrack.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: austastar on March 05, 2019, 07:52:41 PM
...... The CFA are pretty clear that they can't have units at every house and if you are going to stay and fight you should do it on the understanding you may be alone......


Hi,
  Not Vic, but Tas fires a few years ago.
We were on a road going up a ridge, (https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Lynden+Rd,+Bonnet+Hill+TAS+7053/@-42.9688909,147.3279438,961m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xaa6dd9bdc1881e1b:0x5c7f690b4310218b!8m2!3d-42.9688948!4d147.3301325?hl=en&authuser=0) with a fire running south in the forest to the west of us. There were about 3 pumpers and a few light tankers waiting at the top of the road (north end) and followed the fire in the forest to the west, protecting the backs of the houses as it moved south under a strong wind.
At the height of the fire we were fairly busy running lines from the street, dousing the fire and the house and when safe, pulling the lines out and moving on to the next house.
At one stage, moving to the next house, the smoke was fairly thick,(smoke alarms going off every where in the houses ) and I could hear a fire pump down the back of my next house. Not sure how they got the tanker down there, but I could hear it, and went on to the next house down.
A cooler southerly change helped a lot, and about midnight we had it all contained.
Fire pump still running at the back of the house I bypassed, strange, they should have pulled out by now.
Strange, no driveway down the back, how did the tanker get down there?
Walked down the path to find ... no tanker! 
Just an old fellow and his Mrs with a fire pump running from the above ground swimming pool and wondering when he was going to get some help!
I felt really bad about that.
Cheers
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 05, 2019, 08:22:57 PM

Hi,
  Not Vic, but Tas fires a few years ago.
We were on a road going up a ridge, (https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Lynden+Rd,+Bonnet+Hill+TAS+7053/@-42.9688909,147.3279438,961m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xaa6dd9bdc1881e1b:0x5c7f690b4310218b!8m2!3d-42.9688948!4d147.3301325?hl=en&authuser=0) with a fire running south in the forest to the west of us. There were about 3 pumpers and a few light tankers waiting at the top of the road (north end) and followed the fire in the forest to the west, protecting the backs of the houses as it moved south under a strong wind.
At the height of the fire we were fairly busy running lines from the street, dousing the fire and the house and when safe, pulling the lines out and moving on to the next house.
At one stage, moving to the next house, the smoke was fairly thick,(smoke alarms going off every where in the houses ) and I could hear a fire pump down the back of my next house. Not sure how they got the tanker down there, but I could hear it, and went on to the next house down.
A cooler southerly change helped a lot, and about midnight we had it all contained.
Fire pump still running at the back of the house I bypassed, strange, they should have pulled out by now.
Strange, no driveway down the back, how did the tanker get down there?
Walked down the path to find ... no tanker! 
Just an old fellow and his Mrs with a fire pump running from the above ground swimming pool and wondering when he was going to get some help!
I felt really bad about that.
Cheers
Like the report here at the weekend, dunno if its true or not, but apparently one Garfield North resident had decided to stay and fight and when the fire got to them and the jocks started turning brown they called 000

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on March 06, 2019, 06:48:11 PM
Not having a go at the fire crews on the ground, I know they are told what and where to go by those further up the chain. 
Reading some of the media stories coming out of the fires, it sounds a bit like someone might have some questions to answer.  The crews on the ground are generally all to eager to go and do their job, some maybe a little too keen.  But if reports are right that fire crews are parked up not doing anything while properties are burning, that just doesn't sound right. 

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates (https://www.9news.com.au/2019/03/05/06/07/victoria-bushfires-emergency-warnings-bunyip-state-park-licola-yinnar-dargo-weather-live-updates)
Stand a shift on fire ground  then tell others of your experience  .
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 06, 2019, 07:43:56 PM
Stand a shift on fire ground  then tell others of your experience  .
100% behind you and your mates Jamie, they shouldn't let news crews into the fire ground until after the homeowners are allowed back and have some counseling before being thrown to the vultures. Was coming up the Monash on Saturday and a convoy of about ten units were heading down to Bunyip, gave them a flash of the headlights a toot and a thumbs up. They let me know they appreciated it. Been involved in a few firesl helping my brother protect properties he managed and have got nothing but praise for the CFA boys, it's a scary, scary work place
BTW not having a go at you alnjan but I bet there's a lot more behind that story

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 06, 2019, 10:43:53 PM
100% behind you and your mates Jamie, they shouldn't let news crews into the fire ground until after the homeowners are allowed back and have some counseling before being thrown to the vultures. Was coming up the Monash on Saturday and a convoy of about ten units were heading down to Bunyip, gave them a flash of the headlights a toot and a thumbs up. They let me know they appreciated it. Been involved in a few firesl helping my brother protect properties he managed and have got nothing but praise for the CFA boys, it's a scary, scary work place
BTW not having a go at you alnjan but I bet there's a lot more behind that story

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Nah all good mate.  Always three sides to every story.  Done a few years with RFS up here, so have an idea of how things go.  A bit of local politicking, lack of burn offs, call outs being done by HQ and then closing our Brigade for no logical reason and no one to pick up our area or the surrounding area we were covering is why I left the RFS but the way it's going up here, it is getting closer to, when not if, for a wild fire going through here, especially if the Great Koala National Park goes ahead so time to get back into the RFS.   

It is interesting some of the stories coming out of the fires about the differing amount of hazard reduction work done or not done.  And now they are saying there is a Council there that went way too green to the extent a fallen tree can not be touched an Nature must take it's course.   
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 07, 2019, 05:49:08 AM
Nah all good mate.  Always three sides to every story.  Done a few years with RFS up here, so have an idea of how things go.  A bit of local politicking, lack of burn offs, call outs being done by HQ and then closing our Brigade for no logical reason and no one to pick up our area or the surrounding area we were covering is why I left the RFS but the way it's going up here, it is getting closer to, when not if, for a wild fire going through here, especially if the Great Koala National Park goes ahead so time to get back into the RFS.   

It is interesting some of the stories coming out of the fires about the differing amount of hazard reduction work done or not done.  And now they are saying there is a Council there that went way too green to the extent a fallen tree can not be touched an Nature must take it's course.
There are a lot of councils in the area that have the attitude you mention. One official yesterday all but saying they had got it wrong in relation to hazard reduction.
Could be wrong but I think it is the same guy that owned the winery that is now claiming his son was assaulted by police, doesn't take much imagination to work out what happened there, he seems to have his head in take at every chance he gets

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 07, 2019, 08:49:29 AM
Quote from: macca
Could be wrong but I think it is the same guy that owned the winery that is now claiming his son was assaulted by police, doesn't take much imagination to work out what happened there, he seems to have his head in take at every chance he gets
I'd say 2 sides.... and yea, seems to pop up more than Eddie Maguire..


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https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/teen-whose-family-lost-livelihood-in-bushfires-in-hospital-after-altercation-with-police-20190306-p5129z.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/teen-whose-family-lost-livelihood-in-bushfires-in-hospital-after-altercation-with-police-20190306-p5129z.html)
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: alnjan on March 07, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
https://www.facebook.com/mick.ott/posts/10216212605920379 (https://www.facebook.com/mick.ott/posts/10216212605920379)


Some of the 'saves'.

I agree with his comments about being prepared for a fire. 

"All of these buildings below have one thing in common, the property owners had spent time to prepare for the potential of bush fire.
Cleaning up, cutting back vegetation, clearing gutters of debris, watering the surrounding gardens to create a safe zone, ensuring driveways are accessable to fire trucks and having dedicated fire fighting water supplies on site."

"I'll be blunt, if you don't attempt to prepare your property for the event of bushfire and allow years of overgrowth to build up making it unsafe for crews to defend, don't expect a fire crew to chose to turn up your drive and fight to save your home and their own lives."


Shame the 'owners' and 'managers' of Public Lands can't do the same. 
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 07, 2019, 04:31:39 PM
https://www.facebook.com/mick.ott/posts/10216212605920379 (https://www.facebook.com/mick.ott/posts/10216212605920379)


Some of the 'saves'.

I agree with his comments about being prepared for a fire. 

"All of these buildings below have one thing in common, the property owners had spent time to prepare for the potential of bush fire.
Cleaning up, cutting back vegetation, clearing gutters of debris, watering the surrounding gardens to create a safe zone, ensuring driveways are accessable to fire trucks and having dedicated fire fighting water supplies on site."

"I'll be blunt, if you don't attempt to prepare your property for the event of bushfire and allow years of overgrowth to build up making it unsafe for crews to defend, don't expect a fire crew to chose to turn up your drive and fight to save your home and their own lives."


Shame the 'owners' and 'managers' of Public Lands can't do the same.

The thing is, the prep doesnt start when theres a report of a fire, its an ongoing thing to keep things in check 365 days.
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: macca on March 07, 2019, 06:07:31 PM
That was the same at the Riddles Creek fires a few years ago, just about every house was a very small green oasis surrounded by black. I only seen one house and one shed burnt and they were both closely surrounded by old tall trees and rubbish everywhere.

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Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: #jonesy on March 10, 2019, 07:10:38 AM
The thing is, the prep doesnt start when theres a report of a fire, its an ongoing thing to keep things in check 365 days.
There a sign near home I see all the time
"Fire prevention week starts every Monday."
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 29, 2019, 05:20:35 PM
**** not good

Ballarat fires: Fears homes lost after 80km/h winds fan flames

Three homes and a number of sheds are believed to have been lost in a large grass fire burning near Ballarat, with residents warned it's too late to leave.

A grass fire that broke out in Bunkers Hill, around 12 kilometres west of Ballarat, has destroyed part of at least three properties and is threatening others, although a cool change is helping firefighters gain control of the blaze.

A dust storm that whipped up near Werribee is blending with smoke from the grass fire to create thick smog over the Ballarat and Melton areas, the CFA says.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/emergency-warnings-for-residents-as-two-grass-fires-break-out-near-ballarat-20190329-p518zr.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/emergency-warnings-for-residents-as-two-grass-fires-break-out-near-ballarat-20190329-p518zr.html)

very Shitty weather out side at moment
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on March 29, 2019, 05:38:06 PM
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A dust storm that whipped up near Werribee is blending with smoke from the grass fire to create thick smog over the Ballarat and Melton areas, the CFA says.
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???

The wind's blowing the wrong way for that....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 29, 2019, 05:43:50 PM
???

The wind's blowing the wrong way for that....
farkin windy here at colouredburn :( flammin server swap tonight :'(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: gronk on March 29, 2019, 06:18:32 PM
With more rain expected tomorrow, we have now had a good drop here in NSW. Was down Vic 2 weeks ago and the whole state looks pretty crap from the air....you all need a good drenching soon !!
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on March 29, 2019, 06:46:10 PM
With more rain expected tomorrow, we have now had a good drop here in NSW. Was down Vic 2 weeks ago and the whole state looks pretty crap from the air....you all need a good drenching soon !!

It's approaching dust bowl status, and I can't see us getting much at our place from the current forecast....
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: D4D on March 29, 2019, 07:20:47 PM
Supposed to be 6mm this arvo, I counted 6 drops :(
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: GeoffA on March 29, 2019, 08:38:34 PM
Supposed to be 6mm this arvo, I counted 6 drops :(

3 or 4 here...
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on March 30, 2019, 10:24:01 AM
Supposed to be 6mm this arvo, I counted 6 drops :(
pretty wet here today
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: Bird on April 16, 2019, 02:35:05 PM
Just when you thought the season was quiet...

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/residents-near-ballarat-told-to-evacuate-as-bushfire-burns-out-of-control-20190416-p51eny.html (https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/residents-near-ballarat-told-to-evacuate-as-bushfire-burns-out-of-control-20190416-p51eny.html)

Ballarat evacuation notices
Title: Re: Victorian Fires
Post by: speewa158 on April 29, 2019, 08:53:24 PM
Fire restrictions are to be extended till Mid May . You know its tuff then     :cheers: