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General Discussion / Re: I am Back
« Last post by edz on Today at 09:52:23 AM »
 ;D ;D Welcome home mate ..
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General Discussion / I am Back
« Last post by Craig Tomkinson on Today at 09:34:03 AM »
Hi all, just when you thought you had got rid of me, I am Back , got a new computer lost pass word just found where I had wrote it down, Craig
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General Discussion / Re: Funny photos - 2020
« Last post by Bird on Today at 09:10:14 AM »
 :cup:
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General Discussion / Re: Stubby coolers for sale to help sick kids
« Last post by Bird on Today at 09:07:16 AM »
Quote from: Steffo1
Thanks, Mark. Received my coolers in the post today.
Mine also showed up.  :cup: :cup: :cup:
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General Classifieds / Re: Variety, the children's charity stubby coolers.
« Last post by Bird on Today at 09:06:05 AM »
My 3 turned up today... Really nice quality..
Thanks Mr.
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General Discussion / Re: What’s making news - 2020
« Last post by tryagain on Today at 08:41:39 AM »
There was another institution that decided to try and cover up or pretend issues occurring in it wern't really happening for the "greater good"

The reports of what happened aren't being made up or even discovered by the media, it has voluntarily come from the people who served there and saw what happened and knew some of it wasn't right. When they found a way in Dr. Samantha Cartright to get the stories of what they had witnessed to the top and circumvent the chain of command, many shared what they had seen, knowing that was not what she was there for, but also knowing that it was going to get reported to the Cheif of the Defense Force.

I think the unsung heroes of this whole saga are the ones who found a way to speak up for what is right, people would do better to celebrate them than to try and defend those who after a 4-year internal investigation (this was not rushed or prejudiced from the start) were found to have unjustly killed people.

Just ask the Catholic Church what happens when you try to pretend a problem doesn't exist and think you can simultaneously brush it under the carpet and hope it goes away at the same time.   
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General Discussion / Re: What’s making news - 2020
« Last post by Brisbane Puff on Today at 07:58:10 AM »
They can dismiss you at any time. Being dismissed is not a criminal trial. Given the evidence gathered they could use the “conduct unbecoming “ clause to remove them.

Yes... I agree with that.. Has always been there. Don't have problems with the procedure...
I have problems with the fact that 'they' were witness or knew of the 'incident and were found of "conduct unbecoming" which automatically infers that all members
mentioned in 'The Report' are in fact, guilty. Without the due course of a trial. Which of course, would constitute a 'war crimes trial'.

The thing that triggered me is that the media as usual seized on the report, (which is heavily reacted and therefore does not give all the information for one to form
an informed opinion) and released in to the public purely to gain media sales, (or how ever they make money).

The thought comes to mind that maybe the media staff primarily consist of Millenniums who personally have not even experienced a Cracker Night in there life time but are
here pushing this ghastly news to the innocent public without any back ground knowledge. 

So, here we have the likes of Ben Robert Smith selling all his life time gains to instigate legal proceedings. Not to fund a trial but to procure exoneration from a media slander action.. No matter the outcome, his reputation is tarnished for the rest of his life...

And, make no mistake, other names with be 'leaked' out in dribs and drabs to keep the public interest..

Long long time ago, I can still remember when you entered the military they became your family,, You were clothed, feed, had a nice warm bed (well sometimes), nurtured and trained. And if you had a problem the military looked after you.It was the true meaning of Brotherhood..... Now it's a relatively low paying job (based on the hours), you pay for your food and lodgings. You pay for your replacement equipment. You can no longer rely on any one other then the brother standing beside you. Your orders come people that you no longer have personal contact. Your job has become harder and more confusing and more is expected from the individual. But, if you suffer injury, it's just a case of "theres the door, don't let it hit you on the arse on the way out"..   

That's it,, Rant over..
 
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General Discussion / Re: What’s making news - 2020
« Last post by plusnq on Today at 05:09:44 AM »
Can't help myself.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8989147/Australian-Defence-Force-dismisses-TEN-members-Afghan-war-crimes-report.html

How is that possible without a trial?? By inference, this means that the do gooders in Canberra have decided that all seemingly accused are guilty without even a trial??
But wait,,, didn't Enz point out that by definition there couldn't be a war crimes trial??.... (okay, so lets just treat every one as guilty)...
And the media are having a feeding frenzy....

They can dismiss you at any time. Being dismissed is not a criminal trial. Given the evidence gathered they could use the “conduct unbecoming “ clause to remove them.
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General Discussion / Re: What’s making news - 2020
« Last post by #jonesy on Today at 04:29:44 AM »
Maybe if you read the article

Quote
Defence can confirm it has initiated administrative action against a number of serving Australian Defence Force personnel in accordance with legislation and Defence policy,' a spokesperson said.

People get sacked all the time from different occupations.
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General Discussion / Re: What’s making news - 2020
« Last post by Brisbane Puff on Yesterday at 09:51:58 PM »
Can't help myself.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8989147/Australian-Defence-Force-dismisses-TEN-members-Afghan-war-crimes-report.html

How is that possible without a trial?? By inference, this means that the do gooders in Canberra have decided that all seemingly accused are guilty without even a trial??
But wait,,, didn't Enz point out that by definition there couldn't be a war crimes trial??.... (okay, so lets just treat every one as guilty)...
And the media are having a feeding frenzy....
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