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Title: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 03:54:21 PM
OK, it was suggested, I maybe run a separate thread for the Zephyr build.

So, here goes, but first a reminder of what I/we, want to achieve.

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.

This is the start of doing just that:

This car was sold new in Gunnedah and has been off the road since the 90's.
Yes, we bought the car in a stripped down condition, which saves me a mountain of work.

The bulk of the car is mint, with only some small patch panels on the rear floors.
We have every bit of trim, screws, brackets, bolts, the works..... only thing missing, is the engine and trans.

Keep in mind, we all look pretty average in our underwear.



 
Title: Re: Jeeper's Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
Nice... :cup:

The advantage of buying it stripped down is you can see exactly what it's like. No hidden surprises....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:01:46 PM
Building a NA Barra to your specs?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 30, 2020, 04:02:45 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
Building a NA Barra to your specs?

Yes mate, we'll upgrade the rods and turbo pistons and Footy Shorts Shane will handle the turbo side of things.
I'm a nitrous guy..... I wouldn't know Shit about turbos, but gunna start learning I think.

It should be a fun deal.... piss easy to drive, run some stout numbers.  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 04:06:55 PM
Very nice

Not bad for $2,000 and i'm using his trailer next Saturday to bring it home too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Not bad for $2,000...

Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:

That can come later.... :P :P

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bigfish on May 30, 2020, 04:31:50 PM
So...Myswags version of Custom Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on May 30, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
Look forward to the commentary on this build

GG

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 30, 2020, 05:09:45 PM
.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine.

It's what all the cool kids are putting in their patrols nowadays, better for ripping the crap out of the tracks by the looks of things https://www.facebook.com/BarraTheWorldOfficial/videos/1020336371474667/?d=null&vh=e (https://www.facebook.com/BarraTheWorldOfficial/videos/1020336371474667/?d=null&vh=e)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 30, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI) .....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s)           ... Turbo Yoda  ...
 :cup: :cup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6O1qnMmak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6O1qnMmak)  .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 30, 2020, 05:39:44 PM
Looking forwards to the build, is it just me or is it a bit coincidental that your better half suggests you build a drag car (plenty of time out in the shed) after your bum trumpeting goes to a whole new level.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 06:29:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI) .....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s)           ... Turbo Yoda  ...
 :cup: :cup:

Thanks edz, really enjoyed the 2nd vid....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DannyG on May 30, 2020, 06:52:12 PM
I was getting bored with life but I have just found a new interest...looking forward to the updates ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on May 30, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:



 :cheers:

Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 07:44:42 PM
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Ya think?..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 03:07:51 AM
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Yeah, a little bit huh. Only what we have to though. I really need this thing to stay "looking stock".
Since yesterday, I've found out a R31 Nissan front end is pretty much a bolt up deal.
So, that's something I need to look into much further straight up.
For rego purposes and drivability, this little turd needs to stop and handle better than any MK2 Zephyr has ever done before.
The official built start time is tomorrow, 1st June.
IF, and I really mean IF, I can get a decent run at it, I would like to be ready for Drag Challenge Weekend 2021.
This will be either in April or May next year.

I'm a little excited...... I think i'm getting a stiffy.  :-[

OK, now that's out of the way......  >:D  :-*

These are some figures on the how's, why's, and where for's.

A stock MK2 weighs in at a curb weight of 2,692 lbs or 1221 kgs.... we'll work on lbs for this exercise. 
So, we have weight savings in some areas, and cop weight penalties in other areas,
Then there's my fat arse as well.

So, working on a finished weight of 3,300 lbs race ready. (shouldn't be an issue at all)
With 700 HP at the rear wheels. (piss it in)
Turning the engine to a mere 6,000 rpm, after all, we want the motor to live.  :angel:
Using a 235/60x15 drag radial, you end up with a 26" tall tyre.
Combine a 3.3 diff gear ratio to the tyre height.
We end up with the following results.
An elapsed time of 9.55 seconds @ 140 mph.  8)

Now here, is where it can get interesting.
At only 200lbs heavier, we drop back to a 9:7 @ 137 mph.

But, if we come in at 200 lbs lighter, we run a 9:39 @ 142.5 mph. (hence the need for a parachute, once at or over 140mph)

Lots of variables can change the outcome, but this is usually pretty damn close.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on May 31, 2020, 07:38:12 AM
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: SJindustries on May 31, 2020, 11:02:58 AM
So...Myswags version of Monster Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
fixed it
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 11:30:31 AM
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288)


The Tank is still here. Picking up the water pump Wednesday for that and get that finished off.
The Grey motor is here, waiting for the owner to return the FB wagon with the rust work on the floors done. (Might be a few weeks yet on that)

The Zephyr, I went the other side of Toowoomba this morning and picked up an old pair Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.
They're buggered, but will be great for doing the diff set up.
New ones are $350 each, so will hold off until I need 'em.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 31, 2020, 12:07:54 PM
Just had to have a play .. Jillsy you could use this for the Harley Drag Bike
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
Doing some history checks on the car.'\ today, thanks to some really good contacts.

Built in Sydney, its a May/1959 build.
It would seem, the car hasn't been registered now since the mid 90's.  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 02, 2020, 06:07:21 AM
Wow, i'd forgotten how much homework there is to do when doing one of these builds.

The diff, will be one of the first things to be done, along with a new front suspension set up.
Just so much more stuff available now, than there was back in 1990 when I did the mighty Datto 1200.

Harrop Engineering do a wicked looking TrueTrac 31 spline unit that should suit our needs to a tee.
Lots of folks would just go a 9 inch diff and be done with it.
Such a massive amount of extra weight, which we can well do without.
So, we will be running a Borg Warner diff.
Ratios available are 3:27 or 3:45. (no aftermarket ratios are vailable)

Of course, the 3:27 will be close enough for our desired 3:30 I want.
We need to sort the diff, to sort the tyres, to sort the clearance to see if I need to tub it.
I'm really hoping, the 235/60 x 15 Drag Radials will slip up the bum with no mods.
If we have to cut and widen the factory wheel tubs, now is the time.

The other cool thing, is the front end.

I'll be getting some photos and measurements on Thursday of a very cool set up.
A Nissan Skyline R31 front end, SHOULD be near bolt in fit.
This gives me a decent size disc brake rotor on the front.
Because i'm using either a 205 or 195 front tyre, I may not need power steering.
The Nissan front though, opens up the option of a power rack.
Some Nissan Pulsars, use an electric power steering pump too.

Oh well, bit of a shed re-arranging day for today, so the Zephyr goes into its hidey hole.
Parts run tomorrow and Thursday coming up.
Day off on Friday, bring the Zephyr home Saturday.

I'm enjoying this being retired gig....  ???

Stoopid wife.... making me build cars like this..... Bad Wife.....  >:D

OH, and 1 hiccup, which i'm waiting on info for.
Will the IHRA governing body, allow me to run 9's with a bench seat..... they friggin better.  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 02, 2020, 08:46:53 AM
Just get a bucket seat base bolster built so that it fits / slips / straps  onto the bench seat as a removable section .  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 02, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
So, like this?
(https://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay147035989068833.jpg)
or
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8030/7985413192_51e64acc3b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 02, 2020, 09:40:27 AM
Same as the first one, but not looking so much like a race.
More like granddad's car, so I can walk quietly but carry a fukkin big stick.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jwb on June 02, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Well well well!
I've been keen to pass this build info onto a mate of mine who's been building, re-building Zephrs since before he had a license.
Small world, I only got halfway thru the description and he finished my sentence and said your name!
And that you had called him about it!
Him being Bruce M.
I would definitely be keen to see this in the flesh!
Cheers


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2020, 04:03:24 AM
Ol Brucey..... Yeah, i was chasing him regarding the Nissan Skyline front end.

Bruce put me onto the guy I got the car off.
The one he mentioned had sold, but Neil had this one, so home she goes.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jillsy on June 03, 2020, 09:01:26 PM
Just had to have a play .. Jillsy you could use this for the Harley Drag Bike

 :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 02:39:21 PM
HOLY CRAP...

I started to bring the spare parts home that came with the car today.
12 doors, 2 front guards, 4 grilles, 2 sets of tail lights, 3 front apron panels, a brand new set of spats, a tailshaft loop, the rear seat and around 20 or so various door cards/trims, some other assoc bits n pieces.
Still to come, 10 front windscreens, 8 rear windscreens, 14 boxes of "stuff", a bonnet, a front seat and a million pieces of chrome trim and stuff.
I can't say I saw a front and rear bumper yet, but most likely there.

I ordered the number plates yesterday KQQL 59 (Mooneyes themed with the 2 Q's.)
The windscreen cavities are all taped with race tape and black plastic, so we don't rip the hood lining out on the trip home on Saturday.
 
Man, i'm stuffed today.
 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on June 04, 2020, 03:10:20 PM
You sure you only bought one?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
You sure you only bought one?

Makes ya wonder... don't it.

I think I may have sourced a R31 Nissan Skyline front end from a 89,000klm car this afternoon too.
This will give me the power rack and pinion steering and bigger front disc rotors.
The guy will take $650, which is a bargain for me.
Fingers crossed on this one.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on June 04, 2020, 06:06:20 PM
I wonder if there's a 'Camper Trailer Rebuild' thread on the 'Street/Strip Jalopy Build Forum'?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Champin on June 04, 2020, 06:35:56 PM
I don't know but I'm glad we got this one. I'm watching this build closely. Go Jeepers. Love your work.


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: grc on June 05, 2020, 09:25:55 AM
   
  Yes me to love a car build


     CHEERS GRC   :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2020, 12:13:45 PM
Our "Drag Challenge" contender is in the shed.

Stuff me sideways, you should see how many more spares there are to come home.
I counted the windscreens today, just for the hell of it..... 11 fronts and 11 rears.

The car itself, has a ripper shell, but some aspects of it, suggest its been off the road for longer than first thought.
The last rego it had, was Sept. 1970..... I was 10 years old.....  ;D

It has passed through 2 owners to me, but neither had done much.
One guy attempted some repairs and just rooted a door in the process.... bit of a dill me thinks. ???
The next guy, stripped it down and did some great work on it, before selling it to me.  :cheers:

Now its up to me, to stick a heap of horsepower up its blurter and back onto the road.   :cup:  :angel:

A few pics to look at.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2020, 02:41:41 PM
This is an R31 Nissan Skyline front end in a MK3 Zephyr.

Just a space saver on there at the moment.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: britts on June 06, 2020, 05:03:38 PM
Looks like a fun project, thanks for sharing

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 07, 2020, 04:33:51 AM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Champin on June 07, 2020, 09:51:40 AM
Don't hold back Jeepers. This is a camping forum but it's also about sharing all sorts of stuff. I for one am interested in this build so give it heaps mate.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on June 07, 2020, 11:21:11 AM
Don't hold back Jeepers. This is a camping forum but it's also about sharing all sorts of stuff. I for one am interested in this build so give it heaps mate.

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X2. Go for it Kev, this is a General section where anything and everything goes. There are many other sections and threads for camper trailer and camping issues.
Having owned more than one of each of the four models of Zephyrs in my younger days i am looking foward to this build.
Cheers

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2020, 12:07:25 PM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.
if a firewood thread can go 30 odd pages, you'll be safe to go 300...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 07, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2020, 02:16:42 PM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D
thats enough...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on June 08, 2020, 09:09:53 AM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.

Thanks, Kev. Gee, some blokes on here should lighten up. Talk about 'High Horses'! Isolation getting to you, perhaps? :-*
 All I was getting at is that there are different sections for 4 x 4s, Fishing, Tucker and wait for it, a 'Camper Trailer Build' section.
If there was a 'Vehicle Build' section, anyone who was interested in Jeeper's Reno, which I am and will follow events, could go straight to that section.
I reckon it would also cover other members restorations, such as MarkGU's build of his charity run vehicle. It would mean direct access to the topic at hand. If Jeepers or anyone else doing restoration, doesn't post for a week or two, the existing thread will get shuffled down the order in 'General Chat'.
Instead of having, perhaps 3 or 4 different restos threads scattered across the forum, they'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on June 08, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D

Fire away, mods approve

GG
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
Thanks, Kev. Gee, some blokes on here should lighten up. Talk about 'High Horses'! Isolation getting to you, perhaps? :-*
 All I was getting at is that there are different sections for 4 x 4s, Fishing, Tucker and wait for it, a 'Camper Trailer Build' section.
If there was a 'Vehicle Build' section, anyone who was interested in Jeeper's Reno, which I am and will follow events, could go straight to that section.
I reckon it would also cover other members restorations, such as MarkGU's build of his charity run vehicle. It would mean direct access to the topic at hand. If Jeepers or anyone else doing restoration, doesn't post for a week or two, the existing thread will get shuffled down the order in 'General Chat'.
Instead of having, perhaps 3 or 4 different restos threads scattered across the forum, they'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

I don't think anyone was too worried about your post..... I wasn't.
I was more concerned with rattling on like a noisy tappet and annoying the Shit outta everyone.



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 08, 2020, 11:42:06 AM
They'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

Hense the " MY Swag Garage "   ..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2020, 12:09:23 PM
The big question -- fluffy dice, or bowling hat on rear shelf ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Beachman on June 08, 2020, 12:18:42 PM
Go for it because I’m just amazed at your ingenuity working out what new parts will fit an old car. Plus looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
The big question -- fluffy dice, or bowling hat on rear shelf ???

Bowling hat with a "I LOVE LAWN BOWLS" sticker.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2020, 01:19:47 PM
Bowling hat with a "I LOVE LAWN BOWLS" sticker.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283)


https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/ (https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/)

and .... ???
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283)


https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/ (https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/)

and .... ???
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523)

Ha ha ha.... you're on it.

Spent most of today trying to make room for more spare parts.
Fitted up a drag radial to a rim I had..... sits pretty nice on a 7" rim too.
Another load of spares to come home tomorrow.
Pickup the Skyline front end on Wednesday.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 08, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:54:47 PM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D

Or NOT....  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 05:19:55 AM
Go for it because I’m just amazed at your ingenuity working out what new parts will fit an old car. Plus looking forward to seeing the finished product.

It's a bit of hit n miss sometimes working out what will fit, but, at the end of the day, its all just nuts n bolts and imagination.
Surrounding yourself with the right people is huge part of it too.
Footy Shorts Shane will have plenty of input..... as will my mate Dougie.
Both will be offered a run down the quarter too..... sort of the least a person could  do huh.

I'd known for a while, about the Commodore struts being a goer in the Zephyrs, however, talking to the right folks, is where the R31 front end came in from.
It will need to be changed from 4 to 5 stud, but i'm hoping we can use the late model 2002 onwards Falcon units. (I know AU Ford will work though)

When I built the V8 Datsun 1200, one of the highlights, was finding out, a VH Valiant wagon rear handbrake cable fitted like it was made for it.
I bought it from the wreckers to shorten for a template to make one off, thinking it would waaaay too long standard.
Picture the length of the Val.
Picture the length of the Datto. (handbrake between the seats)

I hooked it all up, and when it went on, and the adjustment ended up slap bang perfect, I just couldn't believe it.

Sometimes, it can be smallest thing, but if it works, it makes ya happy.
(Even the wife says that)  :-[  :'(
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Post by: Spada on June 09, 2020, 06:02:17 AM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D

Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
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Post by: jclures on June 09, 2020, 06:58:49 AM
Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
Jeeper's might already have that now, so that might not work. >:D
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 09:32:50 AM
Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
perfect to hand to the bloke at the other end of the 1/4.
 Knitted Kleenex Box Cover by Wendy Suckow

https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/knitted-kleenex-box-cover (https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/knitted-kleenex-box-cover)
(https://images4-g.ravelrycache.com/uploads/Craftwow/80264254/webp/IMG_1221_medium2.webp#jpg)
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
You are going to have the shopping list  (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/273419446390) on the guards ???
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Kd4AAOSw-zNbe6dL/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
That would be a NO Bruce.
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 12:15:32 PM
That would be a NO Bruce.
spoil sport.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 01:00:11 PM
Well, another load of spare parts home and unloaded.
Another mint R/H front guard and the bonnet is a cracker.

The old Zephyr front struts and disc brake set up.... bugger me, i'd forgotten how friggin heavy there were.
The entire Nissan front will weigh in less I think.
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Post by: gronk on June 09, 2020, 07:09:27 PM

Another mint R/H front guard and the bonnet is a cracker.



Will you have any spares for when you bend it into the armco ??   ;D
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Post by: tedota on June 09, 2020, 10:13:32 PM
You're gonna need a bigger shed. 8) ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2020, 03:38:26 AM
Will you have any spares for when you bend it into the armco ??   ;D

Hopefully, that won't happen.
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Post by: Bird on June 10, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
Spinners?
http://www.hub-cap.com/spinnerhubcaps.htm (http://www.hub-cap.com/spinnerhubcaps.htm)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2020, 02:54:40 AM
You have got to be fukkin kidding..... No Bird, no spinners..... ya friggin Nimrod.

I might end up running chrome smoothies however.
I was given four 15 x 7's and the drag radial sits ok on a 7" rim. (I was going to use 8's)

Going to order a pair of 15 x 5's for the front, once the front end is installed.

Speaking of which, I now have an R31 Nissan Skyline complete front end to install.
OH, they are a near straight up, bolt in fit.... they said..... bullShit.

Bit more, well, a lot more work really to install, but I did score a template for the location holes.
I have to make an adaptor for the strut to mount in the tower, there is some minor mods to be done to the R31 strut bar mounts as well.

All can be done, just going to take longer.
I'm expecting it will be a few weeks before I can even consider the BA or AU disc's and calipers.

These front ends are scarce too.... The young guy I got it off, only sold it to me because it was going into a "cool project" as he described it.
Oh, and the fact I coughed up $650 too.  :D

It came out of a fairly decent car, pretty low mileage car and all that crap.

When I left his house, he had an R31, complete car sitting in the driveway minus a front end.
An engine crane had the engine strapped to it, so it wouldn't drop out like a bag of Shit, only fresh air was between it and the driveway.

I hope his engine crane doesn't creep, the motor is still connected to the radiator and all the other crap.

Day off today, it's the Cool Car Crafters International Picnic Day today.
Got an old drag racing mate dropping in today.

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Post by: Bird on June 11, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
A few car club badges?
(http://www.simoncars.co.uk/ford/slides/ac_Ford%20Zephyr%20Six%201954%20convertible%20head.jpg)

not going the horrid gasser look?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5539/14568601301_b23101e043_n.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2020, 05:00:46 PM
I saw the photos of the donor car today for the first time......  :cup:

What a ripper, and only 226,000klm on the clock, so it should be a great rebuilder.

The ol Pensioner Performance Zephyr is coming together nicely as far as the parts list goes.
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Post by: tryagain on June 11, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
it should be a great rebuilder.

Rebuild? upgraded ARP headstuds, oil pump gears and valve springs, then shove 22psi into it and you are looking at close to 700rwhp. Still with the factory head gasket!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2020, 02:58:44 AM
Rebuild? upgraded ARP headstuds, oil pump gears and valve springs, then shove 22psi into it and you are looking at close to 700rwhp. Still with the factory head gasket!

Getting a set of Spool rods and pistons in it as well, as well a good head gasket and the bits you mentioned.

These Barra motors are just freak of a thing. Me gunning for 700 hp at the wheels, is just a doodle huh.
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Post by: edz on June 12, 2020, 01:56:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Rt9sx51TQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Rt9sx51TQ)   ;D   
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Post by: tryagain on June 12, 2020, 07:43:28 PM
Getting a set of Spool rods and pistons in it as well, as well a good head gasket and the bits you mentioned.

These Barra motors are just freak of a thing. Me gunning for 700 hp at the wheels, is just a doodle huh.

Yep the fact you can get a wrecker engine for next to nothing, add forced induction and easily make big power is pretty crazy, there is a reason they lasted well over 1 mill km's in the Taxies though.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2020, 03:04:55 AM
We really do want to street drive the nasty little sucker too, as well as race the wheels off it at Willowbank from time to time.

If i'm honest with myself, it should see, maybe 5,000 to 8,000 klm during a year on the street.
Throw in a Drag Challenge 3 day weekend..... 3 days back to back racing and 750klm.
If we headed south (2,000 to 3,000 round trip) for a 5 day Drag Challenge meet, there's another 5 days back to back racing and around 1,500 to 2,000 klm over those 5 days of racing too.

This is why, the engine will be fully redone with some good bits in it.
I just need to know, its not going to dismantle itself during a pass.

I can't have Country Lane Classic Cars and Pensioner's Performance getting a bad name.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 05:50:20 AM
Well, a mate an I went and picked up a 2007 Falcon tray back ute yesterday.  :cup:

Having been on the Sunshine Coast, its a bit crusty in the cab itself.

But hey, for the grand sum $200.... yep, 200 smackers, i drove it on and off the trailer.

With a good battery, 1/4 tank of fuel, factory mag wheels, brand new spare, radio works, the auto seems to select fine and 226,000 klm.

WINNER WINNER..... Chicken dinner.

I shouldn't fib.... it was really $400, but F-S-Shane and I went halves in it.
He wants the front sheet metal, inside trim and the shifter.
I'll strip his gear off it over the coming weeks for him.

Just worked out perfect, the guy who sold me the Zephyr let me use his trailer to get it too. :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 10:42:25 AM
What a $200 ute looks like.
Our Nissan Skyline front end.

And, our spiffy new number plates arrived on Friday.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 10:44:16 AM
Standing room only now....  ;D

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Post by: Spada on June 15, 2020, 12:28:36 PM
mind the boat  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 18, 2020, 03:08:13 PM
Well boys and girls, we're getting closer to a full blown hook in now.

I removed the Nissan struts, calipers, rotors and crap from the front end Monday.
Its now laying on the floor in front of the car.... with a bewildered look on it. THATS NO STINKING NISSAN..... WHAT GIVES.
While I was doing it, the bloody Shitty doors were giving me the screaming irrits.

So, I bare metaled some portions of three doors, sealed 'em and dropped a bit of undercoat over them.
They're loosely hung for the time being, but make the car a bit nicer on the eye.

During the week, I've also bought some brand new front and rear lenses for the old girl, along with some other goodies.
Best $100 spent for a while.
Another load of parts home.....  ??? I'm the go to guy for a MK2 Zephyr now.
Ihave a guy coming out next week to get a fuel tank off me.... I have 3 of 'em.

I have a guy in Rocky, who is bringing me a free set of rear venetians down next month. FREEEEEEEEE.
I did offer to buy them.... he insisted.... FREEEEEEEE.

A full rubber kit has been ordered today as well, screen, door and boot rubber.
All the bailey channels and Shit.
Doug Matthews at The Rubber Shop in Brissie is onto it.
Doing a run to Tin Can Bay next Wednesday, as I need to get some Shit in order for the trimmer.

I pretty much now, have a big kick arse mecceno set or pretty close to it.

Damn it, tomorrow and Saturday, are going to be mowing days.... someone has to do it.
Place looks pretty tidy, but I'll do it, get it outta da road and give myself a clear run next week.
These first few weeks with any build, well, a serious build anyway, just plain, flat out, need planning.
No good hitting a brick wall mid build.

So, Monday, at 7:30am we hook in and start setting the Nissan front end into place.
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Post by: Bird on June 19, 2020, 10:58:53 AM
Seems you have picked the right engine


This might be the craziest Barra swap we’ve seen

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ka-with-barra-engine-is-wild (https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ka-with-barra-engine-is-wild)

(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/1023/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2019/01/23/-1/Ford-Ka-with-Barra-engine-is-wild-news.jpg)
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Post by: kylarama on June 19, 2020, 01:27:42 PM
Ken Block is apparently considering a Turbo Barra for his upcoming Fox Body Mustang.

With a big cheque book, it would be cool to see how far they could take it.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 19, 2020, 01:55:50 PM
About this far I reckon....  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpzdjT9P28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpzdjT9P28)

Its no Dyno Queen either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeU6E50pxcs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeU6E50pxcs)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
This week involved getting the front subframe rails prepped for the new front end.

Most folks, would just run a length of strap steel along the top, drop in some crush tubes  and bolt her up.
I've measured everything about 4 times or more I reckon, before touching the sub frames.

Because we are going wedge some serious HP up the ol Z car's blurter... I went a different way slightly.
I was pissing around in the Gatton steel works on Tuesday and came home with some lovely new angle iron.
(I also got some pretty thick tubing for crush tubes, and a sheet of 3mm flat steel)
The perfect size for the crush tubes, came only in a 6 metre length too..... bugger, it came home in 3 x 2metre lengths

With the two new main X member bolt holes drilled in the rails, I then drilled the top of the 3mm angle iron to suit.
This Shit, was a deadest perfect fit against the top and side of the rail.

Then, using the original mounting points for the factory Zephyr cross member, I could secure the new steel laterally as well through the other side of the angle iron.
The test fit up was on point..... yeah, i was shocked too.  :o
I can't help but think, being bolted both ways has just plain flat out got to be better.

After buying a set of $100 Chinese tapered hole drill bit thingys, I opened up the top rail to accept some heavy duty crush tubes.
I've cut some scalloped bits of tubing, to hold the crush tubes secure during the welding.
Got a welder arriving tomorrow from a mate to weld the crush tubes in place.
I'm getting photos of each step, so I can show proof to the engineer what we have done.

Saturday, i will lift in the Nissan X member, control arms, power steering rack etc into the car.
With that in place, then its time to make the custom top mounts to secure a Nissan (Jap) strut assembly into a Zephyr, (Pommy/Aust) tower top.

So far, so good. My measurements, say I will widen the front track by 40mm.
This will work in my favour, as the original Zephyr front ends, keep the wheels well inside the front guards.
By using a 195/50 x 15 front tyre, it "SHOULD" all the clear lock to lock.
The rear track will be increased into the bargain as well, running a 235 rear tyre and with the diff narrowed to suit, it should fall within (JUST) the transport guidelines.

I will post some pics soon, although, but very little to see really, for friggin hours of planning and pissing around.

Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer
To goin' faster, than a roller coaster


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:05:03 PM
Me and computers....  ???
.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
 ???
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Post by: edz on June 25, 2020, 04:11:15 PM
      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBWkM0jzK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBWkM0jzK0)     ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Bird on June 25, 2020, 04:37:30 PM
old cars can handle a bit of sniff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWwUdIAILg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWwUdIAILg)
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Post by: Spada on June 25, 2020, 04:47:50 PM
, it came home in 3 x 2metre lengths


in the glovebox of the caddy  ;)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:54:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7JUzzrWls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7JUzzrWls)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 27, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
Did the first test fit of the Nissan front end today.

Looked pretty good, but some more trimming was needed before its a total fit in thing yet.
It was however, bolted up by the 4 main points that I had to drill and fit the crush tubes too.

I welded the crush tubes in first thing this morning..... after 30 years, my welding skills were.... lets just say...OK.
By the fourth tube, I was getting the hang of it again.
Welding in thongs, proved different too.

Pretty happy so far, every single bolt, is a damn spot on fit..... which scares the bejesus out of me straight up.

I wanted to give a brass drift a whack with the hammer, but didn't have my glasses on.
Too friggin hard to climb back out through he radiator cavity to get them, so had a lash anyway.

Missed the drift completely, but lucky for me, my thumb stopped it hitting anything serious.  :-[

Then it turned out, i'd pushed my glasses up into my hair...... I never do that.

Will do a bit more constructing of brackets and Shit tomorrow for the mounting of the sway bar and radius rods.
These are a mixture of Zephyr and Nissan for the radius rod mounts.

Off to the bolt place again on Monday.

PHOTO 1.  Just wanna bolt this into there.
PHOTO 2. This is the template for the bolt holes.
PHOTO 3. Crush tubes are pretty solid.
PHOTO 4. Bolted down and then across.
PHOTO 5. I threw some decent doors on to make the ol girl a bit easier on the eye.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 27, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
and back out again.  :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 28, 2020, 05:52:40 AM
When I rattle on about this car being built for Drag Challenge, some will know what i'm on about, others would never have heard of it before.

Take a look at the clip below, this what i'm on about.
You'll also work out pretty fast, you don't get to take the direct route from track to track either.
Hmmmm, barra power too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1F4wPoDK2k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1F4wPoDK2k)
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Post by: GeoffA on June 28, 2020, 07:22:41 AM
Looks like a load of fun. Go the Maori Mustang!!..... :cup: :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 12:43:53 PM
Looks like a load of fun. Go the Maori Mustang!!..... :cup: :cup:

Little bit of butt hurt today..... to the tune of $1,440 plus a $100 worth of postage.

***290 mm Big Brake Upgrade Kit for Nissan R31 Skyline***,

2 x slotted disc rotors DBA502 in Ford Falcon bolt pattern to suit 1/2 inch studs.
2 x calipers type 2 with pads DB1375
2 x R31 mounting hubs, Ford Falcon stud pattern.
2 x Seals (P7028) 1.81 x 2.32  x 0.68” , “A” and “B” type bearings & grease caps
2 x Mounting Plates 7959 (modified)
4 x 9/16 bolts UNF by 1 ¾” long grade 8
4 x 9/16 spring washers
4 x M12 cap screws 1.75 pitch by 60 long grade 8
4 x M12 spring washers
4 x spacers 26.5 mm thick (LARGE FLATS REQD)
2 x braided brake hoses to suit
2 x banjo bolts and 4 off copper washers.

I won't see this stuff for about 3 weeks, as the hubs are modified as ordered.
Front end is now all but in.
On Wednesday, I'm having a look at how someone else has done the mods to the Radius bar mounts on their MK2 Maori Mustang. (Geoff A)

I want to see if my plan of attack in my noggin is better or not.
No sense building a better mouse trap, unless I hate theirs and "go my own way"
Strut top adaptors are a fairly easy mod, but again, just wanna check out another first.

I'll be wrapped once I can get the ol girl onto some wheels at the front.

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Post by: edz on June 29, 2020, 01:56:12 PM
http://www.trak-life.com/diy-hardrace-front-castor-rods-replacement-on-nissans/ (http://www.trak-life.com/diy-hardrace-front-castor-rods-replacement-on-nissans/) A set of these would make setting caster angles  a lot easier .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Yep, highly likely we will end up with gear like that.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 05:17:03 PM
Getting closer now, still some fab work to do, but looking like it fits a little bit now.
So much pissing around and so little to show for the moment.
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Post by: Spada on June 29, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
Jeepers, you need a new creeper
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 03:33:22 AM
Jeepers, you need a new creeper

My other one is much newer, but a wheel broke and it rolled me off like a big ol bag a Shit.

Back in 1978, my then girlfriend, later on, first wife, gave me that creeper on the 03/08/78.... true thing.
I know it was that date, because she had it engraved and that she loved me......   :angel:

These days, she'd just beat me around the head with it I reckon.
Haven't seen her since the mid 90's now either......
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Post by: edz on June 30, 2020, 07:48:30 AM
You going to seam weld the shell and run a chassis kit in this O'l girl Kev  ? .. Might have  to try and limit her hurting herself a bit when she does  the twist  riding the wild ponies ..
Zip tying the doors shut might not be a good look .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 09:16:17 AM
Chassis connector and a 6 point chrome moly roll cage will do it just fine.

Seam welding is for those rally wankers who just thrash cars through the scrub.  ;D
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Post by: noel_w on June 30, 2020, 10:22:07 AM

Seam welding is for those rally wankers who just thrash cars through the scrub.  ;D
Ever tried it? it's a lot of fun. My poor old 70's datto just loved red line sucking huge amounts of super through the twin 45DCOE webers while dodging trees.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 11:35:26 AM
Nah... a drag racer through and though.

Spoke to the engineer this morning.... looking pretty there so far.
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Post by: edz on June 30, 2020, 11:50:44 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Geez Edz, if ya have to have someone to blabber instructions in a foreign lingo, I can just go for a drive with the wife and get her to yell at me in Norwegian.   
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Post by: doc evil on July 01, 2020, 10:30:35 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..

Awesome nav.........top motivation skills.

I'm old enough the remember the works ford teams coming here for the Alpine and southern cross rallies in the late 70s and early 80s.
To hear a BDA escort at full song is the stuff dreams are made of.
To see the eskys and dattos on 3 wheels on the bitumen stages outside Albury/Woodonga in the new housing estates.
Then the group G Dazdas..................oh times were good back then.

Anywho, I was a member of Ford Four car club for a number of years in the mid 90's. At the meetings the bitumen boys (circuit racers) would sit on one side on the auditorium and the dirt boys (Rally, autocross etc) on the other...................was a massive divide back then!! ;D
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Post by: Bird on July 01, 2020, 10:56:09 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..
I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-voINFkCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-voINFkCg)

but how big a balls do you need to be a navi in that first vid... not to look at the road at all... Im a bad passenger just going down to the shops.
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Post by: Paddler Ed on July 01, 2020, 10:57:47 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: doc evil on July 02, 2020, 10:20:15 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.

I think it has more to do with coin and that the sponsors are european Ed.

We have had/have drivers (and navs) who would cut it with the best of the europeans. Cody Crocker and Simon Evans comes to mind 10 odd years ago.
Ross Dunkerton, Geoff Portman, George Fury and Colin Bond of the earlier rear wheel drive era.

Australia was/is just too small to facilitate a international rally team or fund a driver overseas.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on July 02, 2020, 11:17:50 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.

But in rallys they have corners
Not 200 km long straights  >:D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 03, 2020, 02:42:42 PM
I got this message earlier today.... made me pretty happy..... hope it fits.  ???

It's a brand new 2000hp rated Inland Empire Drive Line Services ally shaft. Best part of 2k to have made and shipped here.

It might be totally the wrong length, but if you can use it, it's yours.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 05, 2020, 03:25:08 AM
Geez..... I hate it when I fukk up.

I've been chasing an old T400 GM trans for 2 weeks to use shortly in the engine/gearbox mock up.
The Caddy runs a T400, but is a one piece unit, I need a separate bellhousing unit.

So, even though I haven't spoken to the guy since the mid 90's, I rang Bob Grant Automatics to see if they had one.
Bob built my manualised C4 in the mighty Datto

Bob and I chatted for ages..... then he told me, they don't make one with a separate bellhousing.  :-[ OOOPPPS
So, got onto Craig Bennett from Torque Power, ordered a near $1,000 bellhousing for a Barra to a T400.

Bob Grant will machine an empty case up to suit. (They've done a few of them now.)
In around a week, i'll have a dummy box ready for a dummy fit, by the dummy building it.
I'm also going to do  a dummy fit, of the Ford 4 speed auto at the same time.
(It won't hold the power, but down the track, when i'm getting really old, if I want to de-tune the old Z and chuck a 4 speeder in it, I can.)

He reckons, the Torque Power housing are a nice bit of kit too.
It uses the standard Ford flexplate and starter motor.

One other I considered, used an aftermarket starter.... great if a starter Shits itself and ya need one quickly.
A starter for a Barra Falcon could be bought in a milk bar.

I made up and welded the modified strut bar locator yesterday for the left side..... looks pretty good.  :cup:
Day off today..... front and back shocks into Astrid's Statesman on Monday and then get started on the right side strut doodad.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 05, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
yah...friggin.....who
Today, i've secured the use of a car rotisserie for as long as I need it.

Well, that's gunna be coming home in a couple of weeks.

Shit, I just love it when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 07, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
Nice little win today.....

When I first had this thing on the go, the plan to just run it as a footbrake launch.
Keep it a bit doughy over the first part of the track, then plough the sucker home in the second half of the track.

BUT..... As F. S. Shane pointed out, some tracks, the drag challenge thing uses, are 1/8 mile strips.

The thing would be a slug over the 1/8th.

So, to make the little turd perform, we are using a transbraked T400 trans.
With a transbrake, it locks the gearbox in 1st and reverse at the same time.
You take ya foot off the brake and launch the car from a button on the steering wheel.
That means, bringing the revs up to around 5,500 on the rattle box, get some boost happening and then.... lets get the fukk outta Dodge.

In the 1st set up, 3:3 to 3:5 diff gears would be required to try and get it moving.

I can now go slightly higher in the gearing, which will drop the hwy revs just a tad more.
But the big plus, is the little turd should haul arse over the 1/8 mile now.
Who knows, it might even have a little wheel dangling going on during the launch now too.

Because, Shane will be doing the diff soon, I was lying awake last night at midnight thinking, where the fukk an I going to get some 3:25 diff gears.

I figured the donor car would have 3:0 gears at best, maybe even  the Shitty ol 2:78's.
Then I got to thinking, if this ute is rated at a 1 tonne payload...... just maybe.....  ???

Up on stands, cover off and fukkin BINGO...... 3:23 diff gears.... I haven't been this excited since i was a little girl.

I nearly have the second strut mount finished now too..... moving along nicely.
I might spend a few hours in the morning digging out some more of the pool, then hook into the Z car again.

I think I can feel the purchase of a Harrop Engineering truetrac centre coming up next week.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 07, 2020, 07:11:10 PM
Not sure if you have already mentioned it but what ecu are you planning on using?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 08, 2020, 03:23:46 AM
Not sure if you have already mentioned it but what ecu are you planning on using?

Haltech, which is an Aussie made unit, it the weapon of choice.

Easy to program a race tune and road tune plus a million other things.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 09, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
Haltech, which is an Aussie made unit, it the weapon of choice.

Easy to program a race tune and road tune plus a million other things.

Thought it might have been, they would already have plenty of really good basemaps for the Barra too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 11, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
I now have both radius rod mounts made and installed.

You'll see a pic below of one of em partly finished.

So, with both struts in place, I need to make two adaptors, which I can't do until the engine is in, because I need final measurements.
I can't get the measurements, without the engine in....  ???

Threw together a pair of adaptors that should go close.
Once I have final numbers, i'm getting Esk Welding and Fabrication to make 'em. To be sure, to be sure.
Rang Bob Grant Autos to tell them they should have a bell housing on Monday.
Already here, the box is being machined to suit, you'll have it next week.
Rang Hoppers Stoppers, the custom front hubs are made and they were packaging up all my front brake Shit.
That should all be here during next week.
I'm borrowing some rims and tyres tomorrow in readiness to measure the offset I need for the front rims.
I picked up my free rear venetians on Thursday.... told Garney I was happy to pay for them.... wouldn't hear of it.
They're a bit crusty looking, but in good nick...... will look great once they are powder coated.
Did a test fit of a sunvisor  I bought, i'm pretty sure, its come off this car.
All the holes in the A pillar lined up perfect.
And.... the visor has a pretty cool profile line to the roof too.

Trying to get the engine out of the ute, what a turd of a thing these Fords are..... >:(
Got sick of trying to work over the radiator support panel..... problem solved.
Gunna rip a day off tomorrow, so i'll haul the engine on Monday or Tuesday.

Been a big week, little to show for it yet, but moving forward.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 11, 2020, 03:02:21 PM
My handy work..... ;D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 11, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
....what a turd of a thing these Fords are..... >:(

Remind me.....the Maori Mustang was made by ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 03:33:03 AM
Remind me.....the Maori Mustang was made by ???

Maori Mustang is built by Jeepers....  ;D

Nah, talking about this late model Shit Geoff.
Just so flimsy in its build, poorly constructed and for a lot of it, really badly designed from a maintenance and throw away parts aspect.

And before all the Holden owners get sore hands from running around giving each other high fives.
I think what Holden here in Oz builds is just as bad.

I loath the fact, we have a 2001 Statesman.
It does however, make a semi comfortable, air conditioned parts chaser on the odd time I use it as such.


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Post by: GeoffA on July 12, 2020, 07:48:39 AM
Yeah, I knew all that. While I understand the sentiment, the later stuff is so much better to drive it ain't funny.
People can get very gushy when talking about the older stuff (me included), but it really is crap to drive....even GT's & the like.
Was just having a go.... ;D ;D

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 09:27:45 AM
You need to go for a drive in a 64 Cadillac Fleetwood..... pisses on all of 'em  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on July 12, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
Ahh Cadillac. Luxury on wheels, Like sinking  into a  plush lounge chair floating on a solid cloud, listening to the sweet muffled purr of a V8, watching the scenery cruise by at  80 Mph ..  8) 8)
You going to make the top radiator support removable Kev, might make getting the Barra lump in and out a bit easier .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 11:43:51 AM
No, it stays in place and intact.

I hate it when I see those cut.... lazy way of doing it.... unless its a donor car...  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 13, 2020, 01:01:48 PM
Yabba Dabba Do..... we have a 4lt. Barra engine sitting on the shed floor, right in front of the MK2.

These are a turd of a thing to get out.

Rang Shane this morning on a different thing and mentioned it was a Shit.

He said, I think you undo the K frame and drop 'em down.

Wasn't going that way at that point in time.... would've bought a petrol powered steel saw if I had to.  ;D

Let the fun begin.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 14, 2020, 11:36:52 AM
Picking up an FG Falcon sump tomorrow is Brissie.
These are a reverse hump sump, so the deep bit is at the back.

Then off to grab the bell housing and an empty T400 trans.

I can see an angle grinder doing its thing on the firewall pretty soon.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 18, 2020, 04:20:59 AM
i'm stuffed six ways to Sunday this week.

Stripping out the donor car has been a huge amount of work.
Been mainly getting out FSShane's stuff and of course, the motor and gearbox.
Sick of working with plastic crap.

I'll put the piece of Shit outside over the weekend I think and free up some space.
My box of goodies from Hoppers Stoppers arrived yesterday..... the gear looks the goods too.
Got some sheet steel yesterday to use on the firewall mods.
Off this morning to grab a column to rack steering bit I need.
Might even see what the whole column is like.... might make life a tad easier.

I was going to try and use the donor car column.... but its a bulky friggin thing.

Oh well, either way, its one step closer to a going concern.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 18, 2020, 08:37:44 AM
Saw this and thought it might be of interest for you.

https://youtu.be/AE-s7FVKiPE (https://youtu.be/AE-s7FVKiPE)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 22, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
I never realised until this week, how frigging hard its been gutting the ol ute.

I think I hate late model cars even more now, if that's possible.

The gearbox wasn't ready last week, but it is now.
Off to Brissie in the morning, get the box.
Then grab the EB Falcon rear rotors and calipers on the way home.
Then pick up the XF falcon steering column, then to Gatton for some nuts and bolts.

I think Monday, we will start to get serious with this build.
Still just looks like a big pile of crap in the shed though..... :-[
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 23, 2020, 02:53:24 PM
Holy Shit..... didn't know whether to laugh or cry or just take a Shit in my best hat.

I picked up the dummy box today.
Its been milled, drilled, distilled and all that crap and has a custom bell housing ($990 worth) bolted now to the T400.
You have to mill the oil pump and do some crap, its not just a bolt up thing.
So, I dropped another $1,000 to cover the cost of the used box and mods to it so far.

I said to Bob, so my arse doesn't sting too much when I get you to do the "bullet proof unit", how much should I expect.
Oh Kev, around $6,000 should wrap it up, then just get your convertor done to suit.  :'(
This thing will hold a 1,000 horsepower all day, every day.

My bum is beginning to sting a bit already.

In case your wondering, it will be worth every penny though..... Bob Grant builds a wicked box.
I've never raced on anything else.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 25, 2020, 04:20:12 AM
The week in review.....


Now, to be fair, i knew it wouldn't fit..... YET.
 No worse than the 1st trial fit of the 302 in the poor little Datto.
 I'd love a dollar for everytime i was told, it'll never fit, it'll never handle and it'll never hook up on a 215 tyre.

But stuff me mushrooms, these are friggin big 6 cylinder engines.
 The cool thing, is the radiator sits in front of the Rad support panel, so we win some space there.
 The other plus, is i want to get # 1 plug as close to lining up with the towers as i can.
 The less weight in front of the crossmember will work for us much better in the handling department.
 This work better pay dividends in some single digit time slips. LOL

The ol donor car is looking pretty sad now too, the rusty pile of Shit it is.
 I'm not use to having a dead car body lying around the place.
 Time to get the scrappers in pretty soon.
 I anyone wants/needs some 16" Ford wheels, i reckon for $50, you'll get 4 mags, 2 really good tyres, and a steel wheel spare with a near brand new tyre on it.

The new front brakes would've gone on yesterday, except i didn't have a bloody 9/16 unc tap on hand..... good job for later in the week.
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.

The T400 g/box is here now, so the general fit up can begin.
 Its had the bell housing milled off the case, the front modded to suit and assembled as an empty unit.
 A guy walking past Bob Grants took a second look when i carried the whole thing out.
 It was lighter than a box of beer.

The diff will go off to Shane at HPEngines in a few weeks for a short back and sides, but at least its out fromunder the ute now.

Picked up the rear brakes this week, and an XF steering column which looks pretty good for a fit so far.
 I'll be busting my arse to try and get the old Zephyr column covers to fit the XF unit to help make it blend in better.

Every now and then, i do have to look at the ol Datsun pic on the shed wall and think to myself, how much friggin fun the Zephyr will be doing things like Drag Challenge.
 Bring it on i say......
 OH, and the orange thing was at Bob Grants too...... pretty nice ol 2 door VG Valiant. LOL  Yes, it was the real McCoy.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 25, 2020, 04:20:56 AM
 8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 25, 2020, 06:38:34 AM
That's nice... :cup: :cup:

I'm a Mopar fan. They dared to be different, and did some interesting stuff.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 25, 2020, 06:42:40 AM
...
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
...

They're almost around the corner from us.
I've used them a couple of times for some small stuff and they've always been very helpful.

...
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.
...

Good brakes only slow you down.... :P
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on July 30, 2020, 08:29:27 AM
Yanks building a big Barra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRmnqvT3AM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRmnqvT3AM) ..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 01, 2020, 04:35:44 PM
A few new pics, including a tail shaft rated to 2,000hp. (Ain't gunna bust that sucker)

Going to kick the rear springs in so they sit under the rails rather than beside them.
Esk Welding and Fab are going to do the firewall mods..... keep the engineer happy that way.

Steering column is roughly zip tied into place ready for an "engine in the hole" fit during the week.

Gunna look pretty shabby with half the firewall missing.

 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 01, 2020, 04:38:16 PM
Sorry if I dribble on a bit.... still not 100% sure about this thread.  ???

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Pete79 on August 01, 2020, 06:53:12 PM
Dribble away mate.;D
I’m following this thread with keen interest (and a fair amount of jealousy).

Personally always wanted to build something loud and fast, but no matter how many times I brought it up, I could never get permission from the finance minister.

So I just have to live vicariously through cool builds like this one.
Might not post much, but reading everything and studying all the photos in detail. ;)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: S.W on August 01, 2020, 09:25:09 PM
Keep it coming Jeepers, I'm really enjoying reading. Can't wait to see the 1/4 mile time!
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2020, 03:29:34 AM
OK, thanks guys.

I guess the hard bit Is, sometimes during these sorts of builds, is a small improvement or fix, makes ya feel like the King of Turd Island
I worry that others will look on and think, the fukkin dickhead gets excited over the smallest thing.... well, that does happen too.  >:D

Pete, remember with the pics, this all comes apart for final welding, finishing etc prior to paint..... she's mock up only at this point.

S.W.   When I see that first 9 second time slip, then it will all feel worthwhile huh.

I had thought about just doing a simple ol HQ one tonner with a nitrous LS in it for an easy 10 second runner.
Would have been a third of the price to build.....
Only half a car to paint, trim and Shit like that but no real cool factor and one tonners have been done to death.

The ol Pensioner Performance Rockabilly Cruiser Bruiser should have the "WOW... That'd friggin cool" factor in spades. (I hope)

I know why she came off the road in 1970 now too.
The diff centre is busted.
They take a few teeth off the planetary gears if you give them a hard time.
They will still drive, but sound like marbles in a tin bucket rattling around.
This thing lived on a dirt road in western NSW, so i'm guessing the corrugations took the diff out.
She was parked up, and left to sit until some ol fart by the name of Jeepers came along.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on August 02, 2020, 07:18:44 AM
Keep up with the posts.  I'm not overly interested in the performance side, just following to see how you are making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on August 02, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
.......making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...

FBH.... ;D

 :cheers:

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2020, 04:40:57 PM
Ya gotta be happy, when ya welding and fab. guy calls around at 3 on a sunday arvo.

It seems, i'm not cutting the firewall now with an angle grinder.....   ;D

He is.... with a whizz bang plasma cutter next weekend.

He sees no probs with the plans..... thinks the spring relocation will be easy.

So, after spending most of the day cruising the wheels off the Cadillac, this has been a nice finish to the weekend.  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on August 02, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
Would have been a third of the price to build.....

so do you have a budget?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 04:24:11 AM
so do you have a budget?

NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

The tonner could've been built for around 10 grand I reckon.
This one, well, who the hell knows, but being what it is and being a high end/ish build, oh man, my butt just started stinging again.

See, with the tonner, all I would do is move the rear axle forward 12 inches, make the engine and g/box mounts, then powder coat the chassis.
Already has disc brakes etc, so assemble the driveline, a 31 spline 9 inch and the mechanics are nearly there.

Paint and panel the cabin, a cage, 2 buckets trimmed and some carpet..... you see whit I mean.
I was thinking of gutting the ol girls statesman for the donor car too.

She didn't know that, but she's not dumb, one morning when it appeared to have a flat battery, she would've worked it out.

I sometimes forget to tell her stuff, a little bit like the time I sold her MGA for $27,500 back in 2001 or so.
I'd bought it for her for her birthday the year before, can't remember why I wanted the money now.... not sure she's 100% over that yet.  ???

But yeah, the tonner would've been an easy build, maybe a 6 or 8 month turn around... tops.

The mighty Zeph, while I want it finished ASAP, it will most likely go over my 12 month hopes and dreams.

As I've mentioned before, the hard part, is now.
Lots of Shit to plan.... there is stuff that won't be fitted to the car until its near complete, but it has to be made, modified or other, in the planning.
Its gunna look like a messy pile of parts and Shit for a while yet..... but fukkin look out when we start the final fit ups in the home stretch.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on August 03, 2020, 12:05:47 PM
NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

That's the attitude, one of those things that if you sat down to cost it at the beginning it might never happen ;D

Sooooo, given you will probably be able to get a street tune on the haltech and therefore probably make it more economical to run than the Caddy, is this a possible replacement or are you envisaging this one as a sibling for Migaloo.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 12:47:59 PM
No, the Cadillac goes nowhere but in my shed and stays there till I cark it.
The Z car will be a stable mate for it.

The modern tech available with Haltech is pretty friggin cool.
We can have a lazy tune for around town, that will be around the 3 or 400 mark.
Then, come race day, we open the taps and let it eat.  ;D

The jury is still out, whether we run pump98 for racing as well or tip some E85 in for race days.

The practical side of me, which doesn't come to the surface very often, says it will run pump98 full time.

I ordered a pair of 15 x 5" front wheels the morning. (Don't really need 'em for ages...sort of)
I do however, need to know, they will clear the calipers ok, before shortening the diff to suit the rears. (Chrome smoothies)

No good doing the diff, to then find the fronts foul.
Then trying buy wheels to suit the diff rather than the diff built to suit the wheels.

All part of the crap running through my fool head.

After removing the intake set up this morning, I had another go at slipping the engine in the hole.
Plenty of love lube, couple of tyre levers and it was still a no go, but closer.
Once we plasma cut the firewall, it'll slip in like a dick in a shirt sleeve.

The engine is longer than the engine bay by about 2 inches....... bugger.



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 01:08:39 PM

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.
 

THIS IS WHAT HAS CHANGED..... from Day 1   ... ha ha ha. set in cement my arse.

1/ Its a 59 Zephyr for starts. ::)
2/ Spats are gone, not a friggin hope of clearing the tyres. ::)
3/ The Dodge Lancer trims, now chrome smoothies.  ::)
4/ The 4 speed over drive auto, now a manualised and transbraked 3 speed GM gearbox.  ::)
5/ I was going to use the donor car wiring harness.....  ::)

Might just go now.....  :-X



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 04:58:43 PM
Pic 1. The 2 inch timber is to hold it in position, which shows the portion underneath that has to be trimmed.

Pic 2. Friggin big lump of a thing..... i'm still having trouble getting my head around the HP these things make.

Pic 3. Once we remove the timber from behind, the engine will slide back enough to clear the radiator support panel. Keep in mind, the radiator sits in front of this panel. Could've cut it out for an easier fit, but that's just being rough and lazy.

Pic 4. Had the Caddy out yesterday and bumped into Cadillac Jack in my travels.

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Post by: GeoffA on August 03, 2020, 05:02:07 PM
Can't drop the front end out and bring it in from underneath?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 05:03:58 PM
Nah, not really.

The engine needs to be able to come and go through the top.... and it will.  ;D
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Post by: GeoffA on August 03, 2020, 05:20:58 PM
After you've reshaped the firewall, it will just be a matter of what angle it gets rotated to, and how much height you have/need.

Gunna be fun..... ;D
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Post by: GGV8Cruza on August 03, 2020, 08:06:17 PM
Sorry if I dribble on a bit.... still not 100% sure about this thread.  ???

Mods approve, keep them coming  :cup:

GG
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Post by: 2Strokeit on August 03, 2020, 09:56:51 PM
Your changing the firewall, tunnel, steering, springs and brakes but ya keeping the top of the radiator support 'original' even when it makes life difficult sooo.... you can lean on it self righteously when you pop the bonnet?
I get that you know and trust the th400 but could you have added a few more gears it's 2020.
The wifes merc has an 8 speed and the box handles up to 6-700 hp before  upgraded clutches and solenoid work and it seems smaller than I remember  my old tonner box same with the diffs.


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2020, 04:21:36 AM
The radiator support panel is a load bearing portion (not by massive amounts however) and as we are cutting the firewall, it stays in as a brace to help keep the car square.
It doesn't really cause an issue, even with it missing, the firewall still has to be trimmed anyway, so there is no advantage to cutting it.
If you look at Pic 1, I have a block of timber behind the engine.
If the firewall was cut away yesterday, the engine would have gone straight down and into position.
These things are always, a steady as you go situation.
I only want to cut away, what is needed, not just cut out bits to make something ever so slightly easier.

Geez, I need an 8 speed auto like Custer needed more Indians.
The 4 speed Ford box was a consideration and the 6 speed Ford box is stronger, depending on who you talk to.... however.

I need gearing to suit n 1/8 mile strip as well as a 1/4 strip and still be able to cruise the highway.
To use an 8 speed box, i'm making 7 gear changes in 9.5 seconds with the diff gearing done to suit. That's getting pretty busy.

We are also using a transbrake set up, which can be done  easy on a T400 trans.
A 2 speed powerglide would work well too, but the gearing isn't there for 1/8 mile tracks.
Not too sure, a Merc 8 speed would handle that sort of abuse.
We will hold around 3,500rpm while the transbrake will lock up 1st and reverse together.
At this point, I have my foot off the brakes, the gearbox is holding an engine that is now making boost.
On the drop of a button, all hell is unleashed on the driveline.

If I was just tootling around town or down the highway..... for sure... an overdrive everyday.
I have the option if I want to, to fit a Gear Venders overdrive, as they can hold up 3,000HP, but aren't cheap.   :'(

Keep in mind, this car is being built to compete in a Drag Challenge event.
You race Day 1, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 2, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 3, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 4, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 5, which is back at the 1st day race track again.

Depending on where its held, you also have the klm to get there and get home.
The gearbox cops a hiding in these cars, I really want to attack this with a boxing glove, not a mitten.

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Post by: noel_w on August 04, 2020, 08:46:15 AM

hey Jeepers
Here is a bunch of yanks that are putting a Barra in a GT350. Talking about 1200HP
Ya might get some ideas from them about how to 1200HP a Zeph  :laugh: :laugh:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2020, 10:39:59 AM
hey Jeepers
Here is a bunch of yanks that are putting a Barra in a GT350. Talking about 1200HP
Ya might get some ideas from them about how to 1200HP a Zeph  :laugh: :laugh:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI)

Nah....  gotta change more Shit to go that high in the HP stakes.
Keep in sensible, 700.... maybe 800 tops will do me. :angel:
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Post by: bmwfreak on August 04, 2020, 11:04:59 AM
I can’t imagine a chassis that has had a fire ‘near’ it being structurally robust enough for just returning to stock, let alone the sort of power these guys are talking about  ??? ???
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Post by: edz on August 06, 2020, 12:45:40 PM
Z car stealth transporter
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 06, 2020, 03:00:16 PM
Being built to be driven.... no trailer sailors in this household.  8)

Cool set up Edz, but not for this little black duck..... yes, Black Ducks Do Matter.
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Post by: gronk on August 06, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
Being built to be driven.... no trailer sailors in this household.  8)


You mention 5 different tracks for the challenge...have you got that many in Qld and are you confident the thing will make 5 tracks ( mechanically )... ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 06, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
You mention 5 different tracks for the challenge...have you got that many in Qld and are you confident the thing will make 5 tracks ( mechanically )... ;D

Willowbank, Warwick, Roma, Bernaraby and back to Wally bank.

There is also mackay and Spring Mount, even Stanthorpe has a little 1/8 mile.

And yes, the car will piss it in. With Footy Shorts Shane and myself twirling the spanners, if we won, we'd do a victory lap.  ;D
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Post by: jclures on August 06, 2020, 08:45:10 PM
You would have to be worried a bit it being a Ford. >:D >:D ;D
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Post by: tryagain on August 06, 2020, 11:09:14 PM
You would have to be worried a bit it being a Ford. >:D >:D ;D

Not defending Ford, but the Barra which is what is being used was/is tough as nails, Penty of reports of them doing over 1,000,000km in Taxi's back in the day, wouldn't expect anything like that with the boost jeepers is going to shove up its clapper, but still plenty of high power boosted barras being quite reliable. With the Haltech, he can easily switch tunes to make it very road drivable as well.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 04:28:54 AM
The plan is for only 20 or 22lbs of boost when racing.... 26 tops. (race motor)

The plan is for only 8 or 10 lbs on the street.  :angel: (street motor)

The ones making the huge HP figures, are getting up to 50psi up  their blurters, even these ones still street drive ok.
Hmmm... Haltech.... that's the go.

Back on the Z car today, spent yesterday working on the pool. (still digging Shit out of it)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 01:45:12 PM
OH PISSER......

With the Skyline front end, we gain a bit in the front track.
To keep the engineers happy, and stay in spec, I ordered some 3 inch back spaced wheels.

The guy had 2.75 or 3's, 3's were good.

Then he rang me, I have a pair of 3.25 inch back space.

Hmm, yep, should just sneak it in and work a tad more in my favour...... pisser, just fouls by the tiniest amount on the friggin caliper.

So, box 'em up, send 'em back and get the 3' inch backspace ones I ordered in the first place.
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Post by: Bird on August 07, 2020, 03:03:44 PM
OH PISSER......

With the Skyline front end, we gain a bit in the front track.
To keep the engineers happy, and stay in spec, I ordered some 3 inch back spaced wheels.

The guy had 2.75 or 3's, 3's were good.

Then he rang me, I have a pair of 3.25 inch back space.

Hmm, yep, should just sneak it in and work a tad more in my favour...... pisser, just fouls by the tiniest amount on the friggin caliper.

So, box 'em up, send 'em back and get the 3' inch backspace ones I ordered in the first place.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/81/83/1b81834a3e8d69644414ce7fa91fa106.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
The shop is just over the border at Tweed Heads too.....  ;D

Gunna drive the fukkers down on Wednesday and he'll meet me in Coolangatta and switch 'em.(he's got a pass for his work)

Its not like I need for rego this afternoon or anything urgent..... I hate it when I change a plan that was right to friggin begin with.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2020, 01:14:59 PM
Right.... nurse, scalpel... rib spreader..... c'mon you ol turd... it'll be worth it.

Right, now get in that fukkin hole you big turd of a thing.

Centreline is good, No 1 plug lined up with the towers.....  ;D

Its all sitting on stands at present, as I need to raise the car to level, then get the angle of the dangle correct.
Then, its make some engine mounts time.
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Post by: nab on August 09, 2020, 05:05:26 PM
How do you change spark plugs, compression test etc on number 6? Access hold in the cabin or get the missus to do it with her small hand??  :cheers:
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Post by: GeoffA on August 09, 2020, 05:08:12 PM
Enough room left in the footwells? Looks like they'll be tight.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2020, 05:31:21 PM
Plenty of room for the plug change. There is more room than the photo shows.

Compression gauge is a screw in unit on a flexible line.

The foot wells aren't too bad. Again, the pics don't show it as good as it could.
More foot room then my V8 Datsun 1200 had and it was pretty comfy to drive.

Because we are using head studs and not head bolts, the head won't come off in the car.
Funny enough, 30 years ago, the V8 1200 used studs as well and they didn't come off in the car either.

Not sure who it was, but someone mentioned fitting the engine from below.
When I do the final fit up after paint, it may just get fitted from beneath to ensure we don't chip the fresh paint..... time will tell.
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Post by: Pete79 on August 09, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
Is there science behind the #1 pot sitting inline with the strut towers?

I would have thought with that much hp a little more weight in front of the wheels could be a good thing?
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Post by: edz on August 09, 2020, 10:58:14 PM
Weight transfer on  launch tunabillity is a factor Kev would be looking for might have to add / minus a little weight ..
 Getting the rear to hook up nicely with the buggy springs and have a good weight transfer / lift / traction  on launch etc is where the art of it all comes into play .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 03:48:19 AM
Is there science behind the #1 pot sitting inline with the strut towers?

I would have thought with that much hp a little more weight in front of the wheels could be a good thing?

Apart from what Edz has mentioned above, for a car to corner and brake, the weight needs to be back a tad.

Remember back to the early 6 cyl Cortina's and Centura's... under brakes, they would try to plow the front bumper into the dirt.
Now picture, turning a corner with a heap of weight, in front of the turning axis.
It will have the weight past the axis.... little bit like a big heavy box on the tail of a caravan, but around the other way.
Then place that weight, as much as is possible and functional, above or behind that axis.

I would expect, if this thing was decked out with some good Yokahama road/race tyres, it could carve up a corner pretty decent..... for a 61 year old car.

And yes Edz, I think you will see the ol Z car pick the wheels, I would hazard a guess, maybe a foot in the air, then carry 'em for 10 or 12 feet.
Just a nice gentle set down under power...... would look pretty cool I think.

But not like this, this pic was mid wheelstand..... went heaps higher than this.
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Post by: edz on August 10, 2020, 07:58:03 AM
Look at the left rear tire distortion without the weight on it, tall and flabby big time ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 08:01:33 AM
Look at the left rear tire distortion without the weight on it, tall and flabby big time ..

Just after the shot was taken, the left rear got lift off.
It became a unicycle and headed for the left lane, which got my attention pretty quickly.

Frightened the fukk outta the guy in that lane too.....  ;D
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Post by: Bigfish on August 10, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
We all know you sell a few cars Jeepers but this bloke is a saint amongst sinners.  If only all used car dealers were like him....

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/every-single-car-in-stock-was-previously-owned-by-little-old-ladies-confirms-used-car-dealer/ (https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/every-single-car-in-stock-was-previously-owned-by-little-old-ladies-confirms-used-car-dealer/)


Maybe you could come up with some catchy names for the models you sell...just like this chap..lol
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 11:09:02 AM
We do name all the cars we sell.  :D

Haven't come up with a definite name for Z car yet, but Zac is on the cards.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 09:32:55 AM
Got some tyres fitted to rims yesterday for the front.

Bolted the left front up and eyeballed it against the body line.
There is no friggin way, this side of the next ice age, these friggin wheels are gunna go under the front guard.
To the point, I've already spoken to a guy about doing a pump on the front guards. ??? :-[ Really don't wanna do that.

1st thing today, set the camber to neutral..... grabbed the left front guard and bolted the bastard on.
Gotta say, my heart really isn't in it today.

Small glimmer of hope, looking at the guard side on, it was kind of maybe doable.
Walked out the front..... fukkin bingo..... sits under the guard pretty damn good.

Morning tea now, then do the right side..... which SHOULD be fine, based on the left one.

After spending $2,000 on brakes and suspension, $250 on rims, $220 on tyres, a lot hinged on this today.
Ya can't really do one without the other, measuring and Shit is fine, but its the final fit that either spells doom or gloom.

Strike 1 for my side.  :cup:
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Post by: edz on August 15, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
Drop it on the ground,  load it up with Motor and gearbox weight then roll it forwards and back a car length to set the struts . That would  give you a better idea of how its going for clearances then do a lock to lock with the steering . [ Yeah yeah I know .. Im telling ya how to suck eggs ]    ;D.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 02:01:41 PM
Lots more weight to go in yet Edz, and anyway, the strut adaptors will be a final thing I think, right before the engine bay paint goes on.
Loaded the radiator back in for the second time now and the first time for a grille to be fitted.
I had 4 to choose from, so grabbed the first one and it looks kind of neat in there.

All done to check for space.

Pretty good room in there for a decent intercooler and A/C condenser. WINNER.

Auto cooler is going under the floor with a separate lecky fan running on it.

If I didn't know better... and I do... you'd nearly swear this idea had crossed their minds back in 1959.
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Post by: #jonesy on August 15, 2020, 03:16:34 PM
Time for a few more pics. 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 03:47:08 PM
Time for a few more pics.

Ask.... and you shall receive.  :D

Pic 1.... the second pair of wheels with the 3inch backspace after I second guessed myself.  :-[

Pic 2.... I was starting to Shit myself now, as I began to wonder if i'd really fukked up.

Pic 3.... It still looks way too wide even here, but there is no weight on it either.

Pic 4.... Feeling pretty good now, not Shitting myself at all..... just the odd fart, as I had the drivers side still to do.

Pic 5.... Decided by now, i'm not as silly as I look..... thank fukk for that.  ;D

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
I'm waiting on some Tuff Mounts out of South Aust., so decided to do some mock up and checking.
I can't do much more with locating the engine spot on until the mounts get here.

Just some random pics.... you'll get the idea.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 16, 2020, 03:46:03 PM
Pissing around with the engine location today in readiness for the mounts that are on their way.

Everything up top, spot on... firewall to rad support panel, crank bolt to frame rails... the works.
Straight edges every which way but loose.

The car is square to the floor and has been triple checked with spirit levels.
The engine is now square with spirit levels and has been triple checked.

Hop underneath, and everything seems out of whack.

Relocate everything underneath and I mean everything.... all square and good to go.

Get up top, it's all over the place like a mad woman's Shit.  ???

The car is square..... the engine is square.... the concrete shed floor is square......  ???

Now, it wasn't a terribly bright light bulb that lit up..... a bit sickly really.
In a very Wile E Coyote sort of moment, a light bulb did come on however...... I wonder if the engines are centered in these old turds.

OH GOODY, the trans/tailshaft tunnel is offset to the passenger side by 27mm.

Redo the set-up.... looks MUCH better. :cup: Underneath and up top....  :cheers:

Going to grab a laser level thingy tomorrow, as I want this millimeter perfect.
I want to sight the centre of the tunnel to the centre of the crank, to the centre of the diff.

Being 27 mm to the left side, won't do any harm to the car either.
They always hoist the left side the highest, so it will work in my favour, ever so slightly.

Hmmm, time for a Shit shower and shave.
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Post by: #jonesy on August 16, 2020, 06:07:12 PM
Hmmm, time for a Shit shower and shave.

Hmmm, time for a Shit, shower and shave.

Funny how a comma makes a difference, (unless it wasn't a good shower)

Good to see it is all coming together..
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Post by: Spada on August 17, 2020, 06:54:00 AM

Going to grab a laser level thingy tomorrow, as I want this millimeter perfect.


Make the NOISE  ;) (in my best binky voice)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
Make the NOISE  ;) (in my best binky voice)

Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me..... Maybe I will get it later today, it's happened before.

Oh well, off to Gatton in the Fleetwood to find a laser level thingy.... a cheap one.
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Post by: GGV8Cruza on August 17, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me..... Maybe I will get it later today, it's happened before.

Oh well, off to Gatton in the Fleetwood to find a laser level thingy.... a cheap one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JzHhn2WtwYU

GG

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Post by: plusnq on August 17, 2020, 08:52:17 AM
Geez. That sound is a long way back in the memory bank.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: GeoffA on August 17, 2020, 08:55:58 AM
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me.....

...a bit like saying "click" when you use a wheel brace on your wheel nuts...
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Post by: bmwfreak on August 17, 2020, 09:44:58 AM
Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?

This is episode 1. They are up to episode 34 at the moment. I find it an excellent project to watch, both from the technical aspect, and the production.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq
Edit: How did I forget the url ??? ???
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 11:24:14 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
oh man, my new $44 laser do-hicky is making life better.
Tuff mounts arrived today.

Time to build a new cross member for the engine mounts me thinks.
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Post by: S.W on August 17, 2020, 08:16:41 PM
Keep up the good work Kev. It's looking good.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 18, 2020, 03:02:02 PM
Keep up the good work Kev. It's looking good.

Its looking better today.

Gearbox tunnel is gonski..... and the gearbox is in place and bolted up, well, what there is of it.
Its just a case and some bits, makes it easier to swing around and Shit.

The new engine mounts are on the motor ready for some cross member fabrication to take place.
The gearbox mount and mounting plate is on and also ready for a some X member fabrication.

Was a big day.... lots and lots of pissing around, but I have to say.... i'm liking my new Tuff Mounts.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 03:59:54 PM
Somewhere on here, someone asked about room in the foot wells of the car and some mention of how far back #6 plug was.
I've got some pics now that show some of these aspects a tad better.

As I said in an earlier post, the box is in position.
The floors do need a final trim, but you'll get the idea.

Anyway..... enjoy.

Pic 1. The laser dot tells me I have the driveline straight.

Pic 2. The engine is level.

Pic 3. Rough chop out of the floor. I used to racket straps to lift it high enough to bung a jack under it.

Pic 4. Its in..... yahoo. A final trim along the tape line will make for a nice edge to weld to.

Pic 5. Just a different angle.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 04:03:05 PM
and some more....  8)
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Post by: edz on August 19, 2020, 04:24:07 PM
 ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 04:44:07 PM
ha ha ha ha .... You dufus.    :cheers:
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Post by: edz on August 19, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Oh by the way, the lump of iron up front fits   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeRgxyBH1Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeRgxyBH1Q)   ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 23, 2020, 05:02:39 PM
Not too much I can show you or tell you this week-end.

Lots of planning stages for the mounts being done at the moment.

But have a look at the following clip, this was day 5 of Drag Challenge 2017.
For me, this is the test of a true street car.... 5 days, 5 tracks.....  :cheers:
Check out the bump steer on the XR Fairmont.....  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3ggsw734k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3ggsw734k)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 24, 2020, 12:50:08 PM
HOLY FRIGGIN CRAP......  ???

Trying to mount this Barra is a friggin turd huh.

I'm about 8 hours in and I have the left side done, ready for final welding and gussets.
It had to be done in two sections that assemble in the car as you go.

Not sure who the fukkwit was that suggested a Barra in a MK2 Zephyr, but he needs rooting..... it could've been me too.

The gearbox will be piss easy to do......

Tomorrow however, i'll start on the R/H side, which needs a bit of special attention to clear the steering shaft from the Rack and Pinion.

When its done, it will be terrific and I have no issues with a failure or anything.
But stuff me sideways...... getting it sturdy enough not to fail, it looks like its been built by a mental patient.

We are mounted off the left frame rail and the front X member.
The side bits and the engine form their own second X member.

Not sure if any pics of these plates will make the internet...... pretty fugly.
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Post by: edz on August 24, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
Couldnd be worse than some oxy cut 2mm bent plate and a couple of Hi tensile bolts, Cocky Shit welded together engine mounts,  that a mate used to fit a 202 into a Landrover .. Will say they never broke.
  Which surprised the hell out of me, given the absolut pizzling that landy copped on road and off .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 24, 2020, 02:48:43 PM
The hard part for us, is we we'll bring the revs up on the rattle box against the trans brake.

At the drop of a button, we unleash more hp than a MK2 Zephyr should ever have wedged up its blurter.

I need it to remain a straight six, and not a slant six..... but hey, with me, anything's possible i'm afraid.

Drag racing, testing drivelines since 1902 or thereabouts.
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Post by: noel_w on August 27, 2020, 09:33:00 AM

Drag racing, testing drivelines since 1902 or thereabouts.
Gees Jeepers, didn't know you were that old  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 27, 2020, 03:38:25 PM
Feeling pretty happy.....

Both front mounts are made and the engine is sitting there all nice and happy.

The bubble in the spirit level has stayed inside the little square.... yeeeeehaaaaa.  :cup:

Now, i can start on the gearbox member tomorrow.

Then pull it all out again and weld it all up properly.

This has been a real head fukk getting everything in place.
BUT,

1. We've used a standard rear hump sump with no mods.
2. We've cleared the main X member.
3. We can still access the power steering hoses.
4. The engine hasn't fell on the floor and its been sitting there on its own now for 47 minutes.
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Post by: Bird on August 27, 2020, 03:42:03 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 27, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van

Maybe not a chrome tow bar, but it is getting one. (Will double as a parachute pick up point)
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Post by: Pottsy on August 27, 2020, 04:14:17 PM
Maybe not a chrome tow bar, but it is getting one. (Will double as a parachute pick up point)

I thought you were drag racing not skydiving! ;D
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Post by: doc evil on August 28, 2020, 02:35:01 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van

 ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 30, 2020, 02:47:50 PM
Oh man, i finally completed the x member to stop my big arse tranny dragging its bum on the ground.  ;D LOL

Everything can go to the welding and fab guy on Tuesday afternoon.

I tell ya, some of my welds, well, two of 'em..... are mint. The slag curled up and fell off on its own.  :cup:
Then, there is the rest..... looks like a flock of pigeons have crapped all over 'em.  :-[ 

At least now, the barra and TH400 box are happily sitting in position.

Did my head in a bit getting the ideas to work..... but work they will.  :cheers:

 
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Post by: Foo on August 30, 2020, 07:56:40 PM
Curious, what fuel is going into it, to run at the drags? Normal or can you drop some avgas into it?  ???

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 31, 2020, 03:53:58 AM
Curious, what fuel is going into it, to run at the drags? Normal or can you drop some avgas into it?  ???

Foo

We'll use pump 98 on the road and most likely, tune it for pump 98 at the track.

It may be set up for E85 at the track, which was my original plan, but no longer set in cement.

Footy Shorts Shane will lead the way in this department however.
He's very experienced in getting this Shit to work.

The Haltech computer we run, can and will, make adjustments on the fly to keep it all alive.

I know of an instance, where the E85 was rubbish.
The Haltech system pulled timing out to the point, it ran a good 1/2 a second slower, but no damage to the engine.

Woohoo, having a day off from working on the car today after a pretty mental and physical few weeks.

I might dig some more of the pool out.
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Post by: tryagain on August 31, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
This is probably worth a watch for those who are curious about the Barra, especially in a sleeper drag car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 31, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
This is probably worth a watch for those who are curious about the Barra, especially in a sleeper drag car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk)

A few months back, the Cresta went 8:16.....   :cup:

On Saturday night at wallybank, a commodore wagon, that had already run 8:20's and drove from Bris to Mel and completed drag challenge and drove home again, did some testing.

Ran  a 7:54 @ 184 mph.... goes ok huh.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 05:48:20 AM
Bit of an update on where we are at the moment.

The mounts and cross member are at the welders place. (hoping, I might get them back today)
With the car on stands, and the engine and box on stands, there's not too much I can do at the moment.

The trans shield is here, and I need to trim the floor a tad more for some clearance.
I also need to order the deep pan for auto, (about $300 worth) so I can fab the straps that pass under the trans.

The steering connectors I require from a Nissan rack to a XF Falcon column looked to pose a bit of a problem.
A mate has put me onto a hot rod mob down the coast, so, a couple of hundred bucks later, we should be able to achieve what I want pretty easy.... I hope.
Most likely go down there Wednesday and see what we can achieve.

The other  issue, has been finding a 7 inch booster and 1 inch Master cylinder to work the brakes.
The same hot rod mob has several to choose from, so feeling pretty good about that too now.
$250 gets me a chrome double diaphragm booster and polished master cylinder.....flash as.
I'll probably buy that at the same time.

The diff is next on the list now for some love.

The wheels for the back, i'm just not happy with finish wise, so this week, i'll order 2 brand new chrome rims for it.
I'll see if I can grab these from down the coast on the same day...... gunna be some butt hurt coming up.

That means getting a brand new pair of Mickey Thompson drag radials as well.
No point putting an old pair of "set up" tyres on new rims.

Shane and I can then measure the ol turd up, and away we go..... you would think.

As soon as the mounts are back, i need to turn the car around for maximum light and space, to piss about with the diff.
The welding and fab guy will measure up everything for the new spring hangers for springs to go inwards 2 inches each side.
Once I have the springs sorted, then, I can just hang the old diff back in for a trailer trip to Shane on the sunny coast.

Parts required before I go to Shane's....  :'(
1 x pair of Gazzard Brothers caltracs.
1 x 31 spline trutrac centre.
1 x Speedy diffs alloy brace for the diff. (stops the carrier caps from splaying out)
2 x new rear chrome, 15 x 7 rims.
2 x 235/60 x 15 drag radials.
1 x 1350 pinion for the diff. (in a pinch, I can go a 1350/1310 uni joint, but sweating that someone does a 1350/1350 BW pinion.)

At least when we turn the car around, for a brief moment, it might look like a car again..... sort of.

Watch this space......  ;D

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Post by: Coolblue80 on September 06, 2020, 06:04:16 AM
Bit of an update on where we are at the moment.

The mounts and cross member are at the welders place. (hoping, I might get them back today)
With the car on stands, and the engine and box on stands, there's not too much I can do at the moment.

The trans shield is here, and I need to trim the floor a tad more for some clearance.
I also need to order the deep pan for auto, (about $300 worth) so I can fab the straps that pass under the trans.

The steering connectors I require from a Nissan rack to a XF Falcon column looked to pose a bit of a problem.
A mate has put me onto a hot rod mob down the coast, so, a couple of hundred bucks later, we should be able to achieve what I want pretty easy.... I hope.
Most likely go down there Wednesday and see what we can achieve.

The other  issue, has been finding a 7 inch booster and 1 inch Master cylinder to work the brakes.
The same hot rod mob has several to choose from, so feeling pretty good about that too now.
$250 gets me a chrome double diaphragm booster and polished master cylinder.....flash as.
I'll probably buy that at the same time.

The diff is next on the list now for some love.

The wheels for the back, i'm just not happy with finish wise, so this week, i'll order 2 brand new chrome rims for it.
I'll see if I can grab these from down the coast on the same day...... gunna be some butt hurt coming up.

That means getting a brand new pair of Mickey Thompson drag radials as well.
No point putting an old pair of "set up" tyres on new rims.

Shane and I can then measure the ol turd up, and away we go..... you would think.

As soon as the mounts are back, i need to turn the car around for maximum light and space, to piss about with the diff.
The welding and fab guy will measure up everything for the new spring hangers for springs to go inwards 2 inches each side.
Once I have the springs sorted, then, I can just hang the old diff back in for a trailer trip to Shane on the sunny coast.

Parts required before I go to Shane's....  :'(
1 x pair of Gazzard Brothers caltracs.
1 x 31 spline trutrac centre.
1 x Speedy diffs alloy brace for the diff. (stops the carrier caps from splaying out)
2 x new rear chrome, 15 x 7 rims.
2 x 235/60 x 15 drag radials.
1 x 1350 pinion for the diff. (in a pinch, I can go a 1350/1310 uni joint, but sweating that someone does a 1350/1350 BW pinion.)

At least when we turn the car around, for a brief moment, it might look like a car again..... sort of.

Watch this space......  ;D

Not sure on the sizing but old mate from The Skid Factory on Youtube is always recommending one of the Subaru boosters for tight spots.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 06:58:23 AM
Yeah, i was aware of the Scooby do boosters. (thanks for posting that info too)

The hard part is, all boosters and M/C's are so friggin ugly.
This thing won't be a show car, but I still want it to look the goods if I ever choose to bung it in a cars n coffee day.

I even considered, putting the booster inside the firewall and the M/C  in the engine bay.
Then, everyone thinks it has no booster, and i'm too old and cranky these days to bother explaining to some numpty where it is.
Plus, ease of access isn't great then either..
The good part of the chrome/polished hot rod one, is they are about as good as you get, as far as being easy on the eye.

 
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Post by: edz on September 06, 2020, 11:00:49 AM
Could always do what I did on the Escort V6 ..Mount a Nissan C20 Vanette booster / master cyl  pedal assembly  up under the dash, with the fill resiviour in the engine bay ..
On the 4wd Escort I used a Mitsubishi L-300 booster / master / pedal assembly up under the dash ..All work fine and tucks neatly up out of sight  .. From memory the L-300 master cyl is 1" bore .

Edit :
And NO I did not read what you said above, Till just now  ;D ;D
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Post by: #jonesy on September 06, 2020, 12:56:00 PM
I even considered, putting the booster inside the firewall and the M/C  in the engine bay.
Then, everyone thinks it has no booster, and i'm too old and cranky these days to bother explaining to some numpty where it is.
Politely explain that 4 wheel drums don't use boosters...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
Some do, some don't.

The Fleetwood is power boosted drum brakes..

With disc brakes, very few wouldn't be power boosted.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 09, 2020, 01:02:48 PM

The Z car is at last, sitting on its own suspension, well, the new R31 Skyline suspension that is.
 Its still sitting pretty tall in the front, but we are still minus a heap of parts/weight yet too.

I haven't been able to move the bloody car, as i had it sitting dead square for the engine and box alignment and Shit.

The mounts and cross member are done now, so it was time to spin the ol girl around and start getting ready to move the rear springs inboard.

The old diff will be coming out tomorrow......  :D
 We'll get a start on the steering column to rack in a day or two as well.

The floor needs to be trimmed a bit more to get an explosion proof shield in there.... ANDRA/IHRA make ya do it.
 I'm quite confident, my Bob Grant built Turbo 400 trans will be just fine. (I've never drag raced on anything else)

Christ, i'm slow getting this done..... Shits much harder at 60 than it was at age 30.  :-[
 You can sort of see where its headed though.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 09, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
and a couple more.

I have a heap of brand new Shit coming for it, but the Covid thing may impact getting some of the diff parts.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: chester ver2.0 on September 09, 2020, 01:39:52 PM
Well since you have a skyline front end why don't you stick a RB26 in it and really turn some heads when you take off from the lights
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on September 10, 2020, 04:32:30 AM
Because the Barra will kill an RB26
I've seen some stuff on a guy in Oz that put a Barra in an R32
No replacement for displacement  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DandyD on September 10, 2020, 04:44:40 AM
The Z car is at last, sitting on its own suspension

Zed Cars, that takes me back to the age of black and white TV.

(https://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/11806967/03~Z-Cars.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2020, 09:07:59 AM
Because the Barra will kill an RB26
I've seen some stuff on a guy in Oz that put a Barra in an R32
No replacement for displacement  :cheers:

CORRECT.....  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2020, 11:29:11 AM
OH MAN.... this is piss funny.

I knew the old Zephyr diff had a mountain of backlash in it.
I'd assumed, it had Shit the planetary gears,

Today, I attempted to drain the oil. (Drain plug isn't coming out in this lifetime)

Threw an ice cream bucket under it and undid the centre to let it drain while I bopped the axles out.
These things run a floating hub and separate bearing set up to the axle.
The right side axle slipped out and bearing hub has started to undo itself.... danger Will Robinson....sumfin isn't right.

The left side seemed ok, so grabbed the ice cream bucket.
I kid you not, not one drop of oil, nada, zero.... dry as a dead dogs dick.

Lifted the centre out and nearly dropped the friggin thing laughing.

The crown wheel and pinion teeth are ground down to a razor sharp finish.

The diff in this thing would've howled like a bastard......  ;D

It confirms why it came off the road in Sept of 1970......   :cup: 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on September 10, 2020, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers

The crown wheel and pinion teeth are ground down to a razor sharp finish.
:worthles: :worthles:
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Post by: GeoffA on September 10, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
Warranty??
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 11, 2020, 08:10:56 AM
Check out these teeth.
If you've ever seen a diff gear, they are way thicker than these.

The 235 drag radial sits under with ease too. (just using a bald one for testing)
The new ones are here next Wednesday.
The new diff is yet to be shortened, the old housing and Shit is going in the wheelie bin.
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Post by: DannyG on September 11, 2020, 08:12:12 AM
Banana Peels will fix that ;D
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Post by: edz on September 11, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
Looks like its been drier than a nuns nasty, for a lonngggg time, Its a wonder the carrier and pinion bearings survived ..
Trimmed and sorted these out a bit ..Thought they might be able to be enlarged and put about the ZED Zone  .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 11, 2020, 02:36:34 PM
Those flyers are pretty cool.
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Post by: 2Strokeit on September 11, 2020, 04:36:04 PM


Check out these teeth.
If you've ever seen a diff gear, they are way thicker than these.

Jeepers K top pic.
300,000k 80 series bottom pic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/7ec5e60c78edd1ea198683640ce82142.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/246bf33184054b5941fe86ba6c510140.jpg)
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Post by: bmwfreak on September 11, 2020, 06:11:14 PM
Is the 80 series nestled in the wife’s bridal veil? :angel: :angel:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
Bloody Covid 19 is slowing down my getting parts now.....  :'(

2 Weeks for the diff brace, 4 weeks for the true trac.

        https://www.hemiperformance.com.au/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_5113.jpg                       (https://www.hemiperformance.com.au/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_5113.jpg)

        https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/image/cache/catalog/Driveline/Truetrac-1000x1000.jpg           (https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/image/cache/catalog/Driveline/Truetrac-1000x1000.jpg)
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Post by: edz on September 14, 2020, 09:54:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdTXsMvcIs0&t=186s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdTXsMvcIs0&t=186s)  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 15, 2020, 03:26:46 AM
With some sticky road tyres, we'd go pretty good around corners..... I think.
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Post by: NZMarkb on September 16, 2020, 03:03:42 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200916/a5030638a1b0f81fb0978c5013fad1d1.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 16, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
YEP...... 2 brand new drag radials came home today and going to have a look at some caltracs tomorrow.
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Post by: NZMarkb on September 16, 2020, 04:05:59 PM
Unfortunately most things that are fun cost us one way or another
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 19, 2020, 08:30:31 AM
Had a look at the gear from the Gazzard Bros...... noice..

We'll be spending some money there soon.

Couple of pics,

1. The floor is pretty good now, so I can start making some templates for the replacement of some sheet metal.

2. Not cheap, @ $780 a pair, but hmmmm baby, nice and sticky.

3. When i'm not building the car, i'm digging out the pool I filled in 10 years ago.
    I was setting a pump to get the water out.


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 21, 2020, 12:12:11 PM
 do enjoy having a win.....

When I got the Falcon ute home, back when....
One look at how close the rear calipers were to the 16 inch mags, there was no way in hell, 15's were going to go on.
Pissed me off, as the handbrake set up from the ute is a 10 times better set up

Even to the point, I bought some EB falcon rear discs and Shit, so I could get the 15's on.

This morning, while prepping everything ready for the diff short back and sides, I did a test fit.
Bugger me, very slight rub on a high spot on one caliper slide.

Nicked a mm or 2 high spot off (about 20mm thick) and good to go.

Happier than a baby beaver in a toothpick factory.

Still switching between the barra that hauls crap and a barra that's gunna haul arse.
Until I saw these pics, I didn't realise what a fat c**t I am.

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Post by: 2Strokeit on September 21, 2020, 08:24:06 PM



Until I saw these pics, I didn't realise what a fat c**t I am.

Yeah I thought Steve Irwin had pranked us all and spent the time eating his way out of the pool.
Picked up your led lights today....I'll let you know when we get back down there.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 22, 2020, 03:04:19 AM
Excellent.....  :cheers:

No idea why the 2 pics never went up.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 26, 2020, 03:52:50 PM
Just plodding along now,
Tyres and wheels ready.
Diff is still awaiting some parts before the shortening takes place.
Starting to set the steering and seating position.
Yes, all the trim will be done
Yes, the steering column still needs to come back a bit yet.

I had a swagger call in, so I didn't get finished on all my chores.

Still digging out the pool as well..... Nearly at the bottom now.
The pool goes from 3 feet deep to 6 feet deep in one step.
It'll be a nice pale blue colour when its finished.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 01, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
Great  little milestone today, the XF column, is all mounted and connected to the Nissan front end.

And the bastard steers.....

What a friggin dick around it was too.
Looking at it finished..... doesn't look that hard.  ???

Now it all has to come back out again for final holes to be drilled, some welds to be performed.

I'm feeling pretty chuffed though, 59 Ford, 89 Ford and 1990 Nissan all blended together. :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2020, 03:35:20 AM
Bit more info.....

The XF steering column, drives through a rag joint to the steering box in an XF.
I've mounted it to drive a rack and pinion, so a mounting bracket is required to anchor the bottom of the column.
Bit of pissing around, as the column has to remain square to the dash mount of course.

The distance from the rag joint to the rack, looks piss easy..... it was the hardest bit to do.

The ADR approved steering universals, are governed to a 35 degree angle.... piss easy.....hmmm, not so much.

Friggin time consuming and the 1st test steer resulted in notchy steering..... pisser.  ???

The rack end, is fixed, the column end, while it can be moved/adjusted slightly into the cabin a tad further, is pretty much a fixed number.

It all came down to the placement of the #1 universal..... after fine tuning it and having it in and out maybe 10 or more times, it worked.

The steering flowed well, no notchy bits..... a job I thought would take a couple of hours.... took 6 hours to complete.
Good fun getting up and down on the creeper, nearly rocked myself to sleep more than once trying to get up.

The driving position in the car is good and set up perfectly for me.
The seat is adjustable in every way, and with the adjustable height column, a midget could drive it as well.

Today, I need to retrieve the left seat runners from the donor car, which has a seized bolt stopping their removal.
Then I can mirror reverse the mounts on the drivers seat.

The leg room in the rear, is surprisingly good too..... well, it appears to be good.

I have a theory that I might be able to get a Statesman rear seat to fit the back.
With some extra bolstering, I want to have the rear seat a little bit more like two bucket seats.
But, still with a fold down centre armrest and incorporate cup holders into the armrest.

The Zephyr will be rego'd as a 4 seater, hence my plan for the back to give the crew some comfort.

Did a test fit of a really cool looking under dash air set up yesterday too...... not even friggin close.  :'(
Looks like I will just use some retro vents and use a normal system.

At least that way, I can run vents up the centre console to the rear.... not possible with a knee freezer set up.
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Post by: Bird on October 02, 2020, 10:40:22 AM
Why arent you running the BMW n63 V8.... Just change the plugs and off you go... if you can find em.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
what a friggin Shit fight huh.....  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 02, 2020, 12:48:40 PM
That looks like it was designed by an Eyetie  in love with spag bol  ..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 02, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: edz
That looks like it was designed by an Eyetie  in love with spag bol  ..

its nuts.. but mate is BM Master tech - everything has a sensor....
you dont even check the windscreen washer bottle... the computer tells you it needs 72ml of water.

thus 852908402394 klms of cables, but simple tasks would be a misery!!!!!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2020, 04:31:23 AM
Couple of pics from during the week.

The steering is all still in "mock up" stage and will come out again this week.

Lucky the gearbox wasn't any bigger.... the floor cut nearly impacted the seats.
Once again, in "mock up".....  :D

Everything went pretty good, even the drivers airbag looks like it will work.

The piece of metal strap over the box, was testing out the profile for when the tunnel/floor and firewall go back in.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on October 06, 2020, 04:36:30 AM
She's coming together well mate
That's some mean angle on the steering shaft  :'(
What's the deadline
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2020, 05:06:41 AM
She's coming together well mate
That's some mean angle on the steering shaft  :'(
What's the deadline

The steering angle came in under the 35 degrees you are permitted. (not by a lot though)
The steering is smooth to operate though.  :cup:

Trying to have it all done by this time next year, ready for the 5 day drag challenge in Nov 2021
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 09, 2020, 04:22:42 PM
I bought some really trick gear today.

Triangulated traction bars for the mighty Z.
Some sliders, to do away with the shackles on the back of the springs.
A wicked anti roll bar (still in the box, so no pic) to make the car launch nice and flat.

My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.

 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 09, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.
for the intended use, theres no use doing it cheap and nasty... expensive but worth it in the end...
poor man cant afford cheap things :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 09, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
for the intended use, theres no use doing it cheap and nasty... expensive but worth it in the end...
poor man cant afford cheap things :D

Oh hell yeah.

Footy Shorts Shane is pretty involved with the car too.
Rang me the other day and said.....
"My calculations are, you're going run 8:70 @ 156 mph."  ;D
Scott from Gazzard Brothers Racing, reckons it will piss in an 8:80 @ 155mph.

Either way, it looks like we are headed for 8 second quarters.... can't wait.
Shane weighs less than me too, so he will be quicker in it than me.... but I don't mind.
Even the wife smiled when I told her.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 10, 2020, 05:10:49 AM
https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F)

Footy Shorts Shane has donated this to the cause..... Shit a brick, he looks after me.
A complete, brand new brain box to run the engine and Shit.


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Post by: tryagain on October 10, 2020, 07:44:35 AM
https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F)

Footy Shorts Shane has donated this to the cause..... Shit a brick, he looks after me.
A complete, brand new brain box to run the engine and Shit.

Haltech?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 10, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
Haltech?

He didn't say... to be honest.

With Shane, its only good gear, everything else goes in the skip bin.
This will be a saving of around 2 or 3 grand on its own.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Heavensent on October 10, 2020, 10:01:35 AM
Cant wait to see this finished.
Love a good barra.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Pete79 on October 11, 2020, 05:44:57 AM
Good progress there.

Just be careful with those XF airbags, they have a habit of not going off when you need them.... ;)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
Today has seen the A/C compressor mounted.... piss easy.... factory falcon barra thingy.

The alternator fouled with the ol Nissan engine mount on the right, which I was going to cut off anyway.

Got the trusty air hacksaw onto that and got the clearance needed. Looks rough as too.
Will all be cleaned up and sorted when Shits comes off for painting.
The radiator has now been moved back into the engine bay. (normally sit in front of the radiator support panel.)
The 16 inch lecky fan fits with space to burn.

I reckon, you could change the serpentine belt without removing anything too. Winner winner chicken dinner.

I did a temporary mount up of the A/C condenser...... sits pretty tidy behind the grille.

I have enough room, to fit a 620 x 300 x 100 intercooler.
Not quite as big as I hoped for, but hey, a bag of ice on the intercooler between 1/4 mile passes works for me.
We won't be running at full ticker on the street, just a lazy ol 300 or 350hp for cruising.

I've also started making the templates for the firewall and trans tunnel replacements.

I have to say though, after doing the final bit of the pool first thing, then this today.... i'm friggin knackered. ??? 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 04:08:54 PM
Why don't you plumb the aircon into the inlet of ya intercooler?  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
Why don't you plumb the aircon into the inlet of ya intercooler?  ;D

Foo

 do ya think I should... ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
do ya think I should... ;D

Have a mate that designed one for the big dumpies that run in the mines but it was going to cost to much for the company to setup for it but worth looking into when getting temps spot on for HP, isn't it? Have a bypass valve for when ya racing for the cold air but then again, I know nothing about Drag Racing.  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 04:55:31 PM
For the racing, a simple bag of ice on the intercooler will be plenty.  :cup:

That's only if we have to do a few runs back to back.

If the ol turd does the right thing and the driver gets his Shit together.....
We'll lay down a solid pass, bank it and get on with the 350klm drive to the next track... that's the plan.  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
For the racing, a simple bag of ice on the intercooler will be plenty.  :cup:

That's only if we have to do a few runs back to back.

If the ol turd does the right thing and the driver gets his Shit together.....
We'll lay down a solid pass, bank it and get on with the 350klm drive to the next track... that's the plan.  ???

 :laugh: :laugh: :cheers:

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 11, 2020, 05:26:01 PM


Trying to have it all done by this time next year, ready for the 5 day drag challenge in Nov 2021
;D ;D

C'mon......you're 1/2 done now...I reckon if you got your arse into gear it would be finished by January.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 05:53:12 PM
;D ;D

C'mon......you're 1/2 done now...I reckon if you got your arse into gear it would be finished by January 2022.  ;D ;D

That's a bit harsh, isn't it?  :angel:

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on October 11, 2020, 07:03:27 PM
I bought some really trick gear today.

Triangulated traction bars for the mighty Z.
Some sliders, to do away with the shackles on the back of the springs.
A wicked anti roll bar (still in the box, so no pic) to make the car launch nice and flat.

My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.
Dumb question, but are the sliders kind of like slipper springs (but much better)?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 11, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
That's a bit harsh, isn't it?  :angel:

Foo

That's good, I didn't know you could alter a quote ??  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 12, 2020, 03:43:45 AM
Dumb question, but are the sliders kind of like slipper springs (but much better)?

Yes mate.
In place of just a slider plate, these run a bush still, are a captive style set-up and can find their own happy spot.
Surprisingly, they don't really move all the much either.

Then, with the anti roll bar.... the car should leave the line flat and not all torqued up and losing time through the suspension.
It may very well have the front wheels anywhere from 2 inches to 2 feet in the air..... but flat in the rear.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on October 12, 2020, 04:10:22 AM
Thanks.  Learn something new everyday.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 12, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
This might show it a tad better.

https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz3.jpg (https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz3.jpg) The sliders.

https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz2.jpg (https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz2.jpg) The traction bars.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 12, 2020, 07:47:59 AM
Ford used roller leaf springs on their works Escort rally / race cars back in the late 60's
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 05:21:14 AM
arrrr, the joys of a mix n match car build.

I would like to run, the donor car brake booster and master cyl. if it was going to be possible.

Not a hope in hell on the booster, way to big in diameter.
So, went down the Goldy on Monday to get a 7" single diaphragm booster in black, if the Ford M.cyl will fit it.
(not looking to highlight the brakes, just wanna keep it simple)

NO, not a chance...... Pisser, because the matching master cyl to the 7" booster is pretty ugly.

Alright then, give me a 7 inch chrome booster and matching chrome milled finish master cyl then please.

Oh, we have the master cyl in stock, but no chrome booster.
OK, give me a black booster then please.
No, we don't have any 7 inch boosters in stock at present. :-[

Would you still like the master cyl sir.
No, as it needs to match, so I just bought some other stuff I required and got a credit on some stuff i'd bought but didn't use from 2 weeks back.

Started ringing around, prices varied all over the shop to as much as nearly twice the price.

I had a look at a 2000 BMW unit, but too big.
Found a Gemini booster that had merit, but would need to adapt a 1 inch bore master cyl to it.
Considered a Subaru unit, but same again on the master.

Then found a mob in the Covid Capital that had the 7 inch booster, in chrome and in stock.
It was $5 cheaper than the one that couldn't be supplied on the Goldy, but i copped $20 in postage. (I can live with that)
OK, i'll take the booster and the master cyl in chrome please...... (standard, they just look like crap.... really ugly)

Oh, sorry sir, nil stock on the master cyl.
OK, just send the booster please.

Ring the mob on the Goldy, and get the master put on hold until Dougie picks it up Monday.

Arrrr, the joys of a mix n match car build.

Seeing Footy Shorts Shane today, to pick up the brain box for the engine, a line lock for the brakes and give him a speedo drive I sourced for his Monaro.

What's a line lock.... at the flick of a switch, it will shut off the rear brakes while i'm doing a burnout prior to a run.
No sense burning the crap out of the rear pads, as i'll lightly ride the brakes during a skid to keep  the speed of the skid in check.

The Zephyr was swung around the other way yesterday and on Monday, i'll start making some more templates for the firewall.
Then I can start cutting up some sheet ready to be welded back in.

Oh, and there is still the pool to finish.... i'll start on doing the sealer job on my hairline cracks.
I might work out the plan for the decking too I think, as I need at least some of that done before the pool fence goes up.
I won't fill the pool prior to the fence either...... nil chance of someone falling in and drowning..... but.... safety first.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 17, 2020, 07:08:27 AM
How old are you jeepers ??   Certainly have a bit on your plate, you make me tired just reading your posts !!  ;D


Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 08:30:49 AM
How old are you jeepers ??   Certainly have a bit on your plate, you make me tired just reading your posts !!  ;D

I was 60 years old in May just gone.

I've done 10 barrow loads of timber and crap to the burn pile this morning.
Gotta clean up around the work site (Pool) so i'm not tripping over myself.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 09:36:40 AM
Oh hell yeah.

Footy Shorts Shane is pretty involved with the car too.
Rang me the other day and said.....
"My calculations are, you're going run 8:70 @ 156 mph."  ;D
Scott from Gazzard Brothers Racing, reckons it will piss in an 8:80 @ 155mph.

Either way, it looks like we are headed for 8 second quarters.... can't wait.

Now, here is an interesting little titbit.

Looking at the entries for 235 Radial Blown for the upcoming Drag Challenge Weekend..... End of Nov. @ Willowbank

The fastest car is a Torana hatch @ 8:63. a Datsun 1200 wagon @ 8:80 and a couple of others who can or will be fast.

If we can string everything together on the day, I would expect us to a top 5 contender or better.
I wish we were waaaaay closer to finished than we are..... Drag Challenge 2021.... bring it on.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 04:07:58 AM
Caught up with Shane yesterday.....

What a legend.... WE now have the following bits.  :cup:

The brain box to run the whole shebang, brand spankers Autronic unit and still in the box. (Aussie made too)
A couple of new Aeroflow 90 degree polished intercooler pipes still in their wrappers.
A handful of new clamps to suit.
A near new, but used, Sun tacho.... really ol skool look.... friggin perfect for it.
A near new, but used, MSD shift light.... again, an ol skool chubby look one.  :cup:

Man o man, he sure looks after me.
The car is booked in to go to Shane on the 30th of this month now too.
That's when we will suss out the space required for the plenum intake setup and the pipes to suit the turbo.
We'll rattle the u bolts off the ol diff, and lift the housing out.
Then we can set the distance we need for the new diff to be shortened and Shit.
Then we can bung the ol housing back in, whack the Z car back on the trailer and home again.

Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on October 18, 2020, 04:13:47 AM


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on October 18, 2020, 05:38:48 AM
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

still readin, don't say nuthen cause I cant add anythink intelligant, but still readin.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jwb on October 18, 2020, 06:02:22 AM
still readin, don't say nuthen cause I cant add anythink intelligant, but still readin.
Same Same:)

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Post by: Champin on October 18, 2020, 06:32:57 AM
Ditto. Checking in every day.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 08:07:44 AM
cool.... I can live with that.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: grc on October 18, 2020, 08:09:09 AM
Me to still reading
keep up the good work
     
       CHEERS GRC  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 18, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
I struggle a bit with the Big words but do alright with the phota's and scribbles  .. ;D
This Z- Car build reminds me of this     https://youtu.be/BlL3BhOxChA (https://youtu.be/BlL3BhOxChA)      ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: db on October 18, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
Reading and enjoying
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 09:48:08 AM
This is the gear I got yesterday.

How cool is the tacho.

Shane, on a quick think, has donated around $7,000 worth of gear to the cause now.
Hard to thank someone enough for that sort of thing.

I sure as hell hope he enjoys driving and racing it from time to time.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 18, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
The Tach's doing a thousand revs and not connected     8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
The Tach's doing a thousand revs and not connected     8)

Can't hold back a Barra.  :cup:
Itchin baby, just itchin to go.

Most tachs do that.... Autometers often read 2,000 when off.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 18, 2020, 11:52:03 AM
not going with the big Guido dinner plate special with shift light?
(https://sb-images-product-main.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/autometer-au233904.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: moeite on October 18, 2020, 12:11:24 PM
…..
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Yep still reading and bloody interesting it is too....

The whole things highlights a couple of laws, adages or old charters.

The amount of work will expand to fit the available time and resources (usually money). This one sorta mirrors the "Shed Rule" - the amount of stuff you have will expand to fit the shed no matter the size of the shed.

80% of the task will take 20% of the resources (time, stuff, etc) and 20% of the work will take 80% of the resources...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 12:24:04 PM
not going with the big Guido dinner plate special with shift light?
(https://sb-images-product-main.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/autometer-au233904.jpg)

I am using a shift light.... this really ol skool one.
I don't really need the tacho, but its too cool not to.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on October 18, 2020, 01:42:53 PM
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Had nearly 14,000 views now, I think it's safe to say it's being read.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 19, 2020, 05:14:02 AM
Caught up with Shane yesterday.....





Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Yes we are

Next time you catch up with Shane say hello, he should come back

GG
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 06:07:54 AM
Yes we are

Next time you catch up with Shane say hello, he should come back

GG

Once Shane decides on something, it will never change.

I'll say hello though.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 19, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Once Shane decides on something, it will never change.
So tell him if Shane wont come back, to come back as Dave :D he always seemed like he'd be a good bloke to have around a campfire.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
So tell him if Shane wont come back, to come back as Dave :D he always seemed like he'd be a good bloke to have around a campfire.

I'll try....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on October 19, 2020, 10:22:00 AM
I liked Shanes input as well, so say good day from me as well when you are talking to him Jeepers.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DannyG on October 19, 2020, 10:23:51 AM
Yeh I always thought FSS was good value too. Did someone or something p!ss him off here?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 19, 2020, 02:55:30 PM
Yeh I always thought FSS was good value too. Did someone or something p!ss him off here?

Getting his own business up and running demanded a big chunk of his time / attention, I think was the main reason . DG.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 03:05:04 PM
After spending some time sorting the pool, it was time to hook into the Z car again.

I've never tried to remove the rocker cover before..... so,

The pesky little bugger came off.... JUST.
Clearence around the back of the motor to the overhead portion was close.... too close.
(Turbo Barra's have a red tappet cover.... ha ha ha couldn't help myself.... its red now.... looks awesome in there now.)

Anyway, a bit of fancy work with the angle grinder gave an extra 1/4 inch to play with and all is good in the world again.

Started shaping some sheet steel to replace the thin cardboard templates and we're underway.
Borrowing a gasless MIG tomorrow so I can zap the bits in place to check everything, really does friggin fit.

My welder guy can do the full weld job on the rotisserie, but I should be able to get the crap in place ready at least.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 02:05:45 PM
Shit these things can make some snort.
An 8.0 @ 172 will get the ice cream home before it melts.  ;D

https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/121781723_2692420311007351_8198584075239621466_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=_j4IY6WsAkUAX8yKkG3&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=964d530e9dc00448bf6014b6fb9ef7a9&oe=5FB2F0C5 (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/121781723_2692420311007351_8198584075239621466_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=_j4IY6WsAkUAX8yKkG3&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=964d530e9dc00448bf6014b6fb9ef7a9&oe=5FB2F0C5)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 05:10:29 PM
Couple of shots..... I reckon the barra looks very cool in this ol tub.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 20, 2020, 05:11:45 PM
Couple of shots..... I reckon the barra looks very cool in this ol tub.
seems a long way back... need that much room for rad / ic / thermos? or ?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 05:18:08 PM
seems a long way back... need that much room for rad / ic / thermos? or ?

The rad, normally sits out front of the radiator support panel.
By throwing it behind, I still have room for a 16" fan and I can change the serpentine belt with everything in there.

A friggin big intercooler will go where the radiator would normally be.
The A/C condenser  is tucked right up against the grill.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 20, 2020, 05:32:02 PM
The rad, normally sits out front of the radiator support panel.
By throwing it behind, I still have room for a 16" fan and I can change the serpentine belt with everything in there.

A friggin big intercooler will go where the radiator would normally be.
The A/C condenser  is tucked right up against the grill.
kewl...
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Post by: MadMarv on October 21, 2020, 01:22:01 PM
Hi Jeepers .... dont know if you know off him but a youtube series   Benny's Custom Works   has been running a barra in a Cresta both here in Aus and has done the drag challenge in the States (shipped it over there)   .... dont know if youve seen it or if it maybe off any use just thought id mention it ...... sweet build thou ....
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 21, 2020, 02:11:54 PM
Yeah, know the car well.... watched it run.... very cool car.
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Post by: Bird on October 21, 2020, 02:25:58 PM
Hi Jeepers .... dont know if you know off him but a youtube series   Benny's Custom Works   has been running a barra in a Cresta both here in Aus and has done the drag challenge in the States (shipped it over there)   .... dont know if youve seen it or if it maybe off any use just thought id mention it ...... sweet build thou ....
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSbOJ-JLbk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSbOJ-JLbk)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 21, 2020, 03:49:49 PM
If you noticed, the reverse lights come on as he stages.

That's the trans brake being activated, when it locks 1st and reverse together.
Then, you launch on a button on the wheel.
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Post by: Bird on October 21, 2020, 06:27:55 PM
If you noticed, the reverse lights come on as he stages.

That's the trans brake being activated, when it locks 1st and reverse together.
Then, you launch on a button on the wheel.
watch em on tele 'street racing' and they use em .. often wondered how they worked.
Hows the life of a gearbox then...
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2020, 02:28:05 AM
watch em on tele 'street racing' and they use em .. often wondered how they worked.
Hows the life of a gearbox then...

if built correctly, pretty good.

We'll be built to hold a 1,000 hp, but upgrades from there get very pricey, very fast.

A good Reid case can cost $2,500 on its own, our box will owe me $6,000 to be done.
Then there was the initial purchase and cost to blow the bell housing off @ $1,000.
Then there was the new custom bell housing and freight from the covid capital @ $990
Throw in a decent torque convertor @ maybe $1,500, some oil, a new gearbox mount, a good remote trans cooler and fan.
We'll have a $10,000 gearbox at the end of the build.

Wanna go faster, either spin the dice on what you have or start doubling the price.

Ha ha ha ha, drag racing, not for the feint hearted in so many ways.

In case you're wondering why i'm typing this at 2:27am, I've been awake for the last 2 hours running build stuff through my my stooped friggin head.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2020, 04:01:41 AM
Just a little bit more to ponder Bruce.

We are going to run the smallest turbo we can that will deliver the boost we (Shane) wants.
We want the car to spool up quickly..... not sit there all day trying to get itself wound up.

We will be on the trans brake for less time that way. (The box gets hot fast doing it)

With the initial impact of power at a sensible level, the box should last really well.
We also won't be racing every weekend either.
Drag Challenge Week (5 days back to back) and Drag Challenge Weekend (3 days back to back) are our main events.
I may do the odd Nostalgia Meeting, once a year.
I will do the Winternationals and run in Super Sedan as SS/BB class.
The rest of the time, it will just do street duties with a simple 350hp tune in it.
With the Fleetwood and the Zephyr to choose from, the mileage won't be excessive.

In comparison, when I drove the 34 Ford, being a blown set up, the initial step of the throttle was brutal.
You can't leave the line softly in that style of car/engine and believe me when I say..... you get the fukk outta there quickly.

Having said all that, even in the 34, I would pre stage on the footbrake and always try to stage first.
I had a great knack for bumping into full stage on the brake, hit the trans brake button and pick up the throttle to 4,000 rpm.

This way, we were making boost and ready to roll.
The first second is the hardest, getting a good clean launch and getting focused on which way you're going.

Any drag car, can go straight, left, right, up or instant wheel spin.
You have sweet fukk all time to react and react smoothly.

This pic will give a fair idea of what happens in a blown application.
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Post by: edz on October 22, 2020, 07:22:09 AM
Virtualy running on a Single wheel ....  Fronts doing airtime, left rear unloading to a full spinning balloon doing little and  relying on the torque loaded Right rear to grip and send you straight  off the line in the blink of an eye ....    :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 12:49:40 PM
In an effort to have the car ready for Shane on Friday....

Seats and Shit are out, entire front clip is back off it.

Shane said, you knock out the firewall and tunnel, i'll weld while you and Doug trim.

Doing the same job on the Datto all those years, nearly did my head in.
Knocked out 2 sides to extend into the cabin.... they sort of fitted ok.

Made a section for behind the engine, looks like a cathedral window.
Spot welded those in with a borrowed mig.

Measured, then double measured, how I thought the tunnel would, or should or even could.... look.

Cut the required section out of the main piece, after 6 trees, found one I was happy with.
Started rolling the sheet, wide at the front (Bellhousing), narrow at the back (extension housing).

Did a trial fit..... sort of looked ok.
Trim some excess fat (sheet, not me), even better fit.
Did a skinny minny final trim..... FUKK..... it looks pretty fukkin good.

I got so excited, I had to sit down and have a breather.

That is one MAJOR portion of the car build that really helps us move forward.

You have no idea, the stress I went through trying to work out a solution on the ol Datto.
And, this one will look better too.

Looks like we're going the beach (sunshine coast) on Friday.  :cup:

 
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 12:57:23 PM
so are the rules for modifying the firewall 'strict' or as long as theres a wall there - all good ??

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 01:05:05 PM
so are the rules for modifying the firewall 'strict' or as long as theres a wall there - all good ??

I've only trimmed what I had to.... not the whole thing.
Depends really from engineer to engineer really.

I've used brand new 1mm sheet and we've cut no double panels or anything like that.

It'll be as strong as it ever was, if not better.
I got the steel for chassis connectors this week as well.

By the time they go in, with a couple of outriggers and a cage.... she'll be sweet as...
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 01:11:48 PM
I've only trimmed what I had to.... not the whole thing.
Depends really from engineer to engineer really.

I've used brand new 1mm sheet and we've cut no double panels or anything like that.

It'll be as strong as it ever was, if not better.
I got the steel for chassis connectors this week as well.

By the time they go in, with a couple of outriggers and a cage.... she'll be sweet as...
some of them shows on foxtel where they restore cars they totally replace firewalls with custom made ones, some look really shabby - but that is US rules compared to ours.

its there for support/ strengthening the front ?

from wiki
 The name originates from steam-powered vehicles, where the firewall separated the driver from the fire heating the boiler.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 01:27:14 PM
The Zephyr's have a brace each side from the tower tops back to the top of the firewall.
Bit like an early Falcon.

I'll run a tower to tower brace as well.

Its funny ya know, some would say over engineered, others would want more done.
I just try to fathom the stress points and brace accordingly.

The ol Datto is still on the road nearly 30 years later..... I used the same principle there too.

It has to be strong.... @ 155 odd MPH (250kph) if it has a spill in the top end, I want it to stay in one solid piece.  ;D
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Its funny ya know, some would say over engineered, others would want more done.
I'd rather over engineer something that under.... 
Dude at work put a strut brace (side to side) on his forester GT... noticed the difference straight away.. well so he said LOL
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 04:24:52 PM
Not fully welded yet, but pretty happy with my handiwork.  :cup:

Shane will weld it all on Friday.  ;D

The camera makes it all look crooked.
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Post by: #jonesy on October 25, 2020, 05:39:52 PM
Doesn't look like you've lost much leg room.
Is there any issue with the square corners on the firewall?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 26, 2020, 04:17:30 AM
In the beginning, I was going for nice rounded corners, but I knew I didn't have the smarts to make it work all that well.

Everything, floors, tunnel, firewall etc, will be covered with dyna mat (or cheaper version of dyna mat)
Then, with under lay and carpet for comfort, it should end up fine.

You won't see bugger all of it on the engine side.

She's no show car either, sure, it will look very smart when finished, what with painted underside and crap.... but.

You'll never see this car in a top 20 at a car show.
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Post by: Bird on October 26, 2020, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
The camera makes it all look crooked.
... yes the camera makes it look crooked.. :P
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 26, 2020, 12:16:06 PM
... yes the camera makes it look crooked.. :P

I looks good in the flesh too....

Its like a couple of engine shots, looked like the engine was all the way back to the boot.  :-[
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 28, 2020, 05:18:14 PM
Ya gotta love good mates.

I ring Neil, the guy I bought the Zephyr off. (Known him since I was about 19)

Any chance, I could borrow your trailer please.... for the third time.

Sure Kev, zip around to Fred's, just have it back by Sunday.  :cup:

I'll load the car tomorrow.

Doug will leave home at 4:30am to be here by 6:00.
Throw a ton of Shit in his truck, trailer on and off by 6:30 for a 2 hour run to see Shane.

Now, Shane is booked out until march 2021, but is making time for me on Friday.
We should be done at Shane's by around 1pm.... 4 and half hours out of his busy work load.

Then Doug and I head for Woop Woop.
Unload, send Doug on his way home.

Gotta love friends who are willing to help huh.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2020, 03:25:45 AM
Bloody hell..... what a day yesterday was.

Everything went to plan pretty good.

Trans tunnel is fully welded now.
About 70% of the firewall is welded.... the remaining bit will be done on the rotisserie for easy access.
We got the hole for the brake booster done.... that was way harder than it sounds too....... trust me.
We have the diff marked ready for a circumcision on both ends. We're removing 300mm for the donor diff to fit under.
The diff has the old spring saddles cut off and the new new saddles tacked on ready for welding.
The diff was loaded into the car and the pinion angle set.
We sussed out the clearances for the plenum intake.... that will see a little more space needed on the firewall on that side.
I have a plan..... Shane didn't laugh when I showed him my idea.....  :cup:

All up, a solid days work, car and crew covered around 400klm and everybody made it home safely.

Our 31 spline true-trac centre has left from Harrops.
Our diff brace/alloy hat thingy has left from Hemi Performance.

Love it when new parts arrive.
Shane looked after me with some nice bits yesterday too..... Shit a brick, but he's good to me.
 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 01, 2020, 01:11:10 PM
Whew.... i'm stuffed 6 ways to Sunday.... oh, it is Sunday.

I went and picked up the rotisserie this morning for use in a few weeks.
It involved a 4 hour round trip, but will make doing the chassis connectors and some welding dead easy.
It will make painting the underside in the same body colour mint green a walk in the park too.
Then I can easily masked the green and do the gunmetal grey frame rails and Shit.

I tell ya what, for a car that is highly unlikely to ever be judged for a car show trophy, man its getting some loving.

The only trophy I would like to win though, would be either a runner up or winner in 235 Radial Blown class at Drag Challenge.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 01, 2020, 01:42:41 PM
A few shots from Friday's effort.

With the back suspension at full hang.... looks like a top fuel tyre..... try squinting a bit... it does, honest.
Old saddles coming off.
New saddles tacked in place..... ya reckon that's not gunna get a fair ol chop.
Shane doing his thing with the MIG.
Doesn't everyone have a parachute bag to go on the back? LOL

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 07, 2020, 05:24:13 AM
Trying to mount a friggin booster and master cylinder for the brakes.... how hard could that be. ???

I took careful measurements of everything, cut trimmed and shaped the mounting plate.
It bolts to the firewall..... perfect, my little spirit level told me so.
It bolts to the booster...... perfect, mount plate in vice, check with a spirit level.... perfect.

Now check the master cyl bolt up point.... :-[

No spirit level required.... master cyl is not even friggin close.

I'd assumed (yes, I know the saying) the 4 bolts on the back, would be square to the 2 bolts on the front.

As you do, I filed, prodded, drilled and swore in an effort to be able to rotate the master cyl to level.

An hour in, after all the above, I did what I should have done an hour earlier.... so threw the kunt in the bin.
Yesterday morning, started fresh, and knocked out a plate that is made to suit ALL ASPECTS... be buggered, its all level too.

Today will see me finish off the full mounting of all the crap with bracing so the fukker doesn't fall off the firewall in an emergency brake situation.

AND..... the pushrod lines up spot on for the brake pedal arm...... so there.  :cup:
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Post by: jclures on November 07, 2020, 07:46:10 AM
I have just been doing the same to a WB Holden ute, fitting a VX booster and master cylinder, ended up making a a adaptor so I can get it all to fit. I just now hope it fits around the LS1 when it goes in.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 04:50:38 AM
I have just been doing the same to a WB Holden ute, fitting a VX booster and master cylinder, ended up making a a adaptor so I can get it all to fit. I just now hope it fits around the LS1 when it goes in.

I got mine finished yesterday..... not easy on a car with a master cylinder the since of a friggin egg cup.
The mounting plate is braced, strong as all Shit and will look ok when everything is finished and painted.

I had this fear of an emergency brake and the master cylinder/booster ends up on the road or in the back of the turbo. LOL  ;D

Bit of a day off today I think, going to load the stuff for Shane in the Fleetwood ready for an early leave in the morning.
Going to call in and visit Elvis on the way home tomorrow as well.
Yes, Elvis lives in Queensland..... but why wouldn't he.
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Post by: Foo on November 08, 2020, 05:36:38 AM
Found a pic of you from when you were a tacker.  ;D :angel:

(https://scontent.fbne8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120075055_2834452723544487_1879363987348444004_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=9QMB6cJG_Q0AX-DSp3p&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne8-1.fna&oh=a82d839d392a58ee91ad5fd0c75adc61&oe=5FCCBD9E)

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 05:48:20 AM
LOL..   :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 12:43:50 PM
a few pics from this week.....

1. Our Eaton/Harrop Engineering 31 spline truetrac centre arrived by TNT on Tuesday.
    Its a nice piece, strong as an ox and of course, allows us to use a 31 spline axle.
 
2. About an hour later, our postie delivered the bracing hat for the diff.
    It has pins that locate against the carrier caps to stop them splaying under power.

3. The tunnel  and bits got a shot of primer.
    Not fully welded, but will be when its in the rotisserie.... bit easier then.

4. The start of the booster mount.... take 2.
    The bolts mount to the pedal box inside, making it into one big kick arse mount.

5. Hmmm, not looking too bad.
    More pics in the next post.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
and.... more of the same, but with the mounting plate braced from behind.

Friggin lot of work gone into that.....  ???

Never really wanted the bling either, but the master cyl in the raw finish looked like crap.
Most likely a waste on a car that will never be judged in a car show, but, it will look nice when i'm servicing it.  8)  ;D

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Post by: nab on November 08, 2020, 03:26:01 PM
Nicely taking shape. Hope the car is on level ground and tyres pumped up even otherwise the little bubble might be telling lies hahaha!!!! Ask me how I know to check...
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 03:44:38 PM
Nicely taking shape. Hope the car is on level ground and tyres pumped up even otherwise the little bubble might be telling lies hahaha!!!! Ask me how I know to check...

LOL.... yeah, i'm good at making sure she's on the level.
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Post by: 6knights on November 09, 2020, 07:42:59 PM
For someone who knows nothing about street/strip cars Jeepers is there a particular reason why its so crucial that the booster has to be so spot on level?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 10, 2020, 03:40:33 AM
yeah, it just should be in my opinion.

Anything that holds fluid.... should be level.
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Post by: 6knights on November 10, 2020, 08:53:14 AM
yeah, it just should be in my opinion.

Anything that holds fluid.... should be level.



Fair enough
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Post by: Bird on November 10, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.
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Post by: NZMarkb on November 10, 2020, 09:33:19 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.

Gas monkey never finish a race
And fail to even start some  :-[ :-[
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 10, 2020, 10:19:59 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.

I would love to think the engine will be in for the final time in 6 months.

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Post by: Bird on November 10, 2020, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: NZMarkb
Gas monkey never finish a race
And fail to even start some  :-[ :-[

but it adds to the totally predictable drama LOL
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Post by: NZMarkb on November 10, 2020, 10:25:17 AM
but it adds to the totally predictable drama LOL

Your right on the money there mate  :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 04:31:49 PM
I've spent hours over the last two days trying buy a borg warner diff yoke that will accept a 1350 uni joint.

Only one place, reckons they can supply it.... but they're as dodgy as.
Everyone else, says they don't exist.... and I think i believe them now.

PLAN B: Buy a diff yoke for a 9inch that will absolutely accept a 1350 uni, modify the Shit out of the 9inch one and the borg warner one and marry the two together.

My ol mate Geoff England reckons he can do it. (bit of a whizz)

While I was there, I had a look at the drive set up he has done on a LARK for a customer.  :o
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Post by: GeoffA on November 11, 2020, 04:47:13 PM
I suppose you've looked at combination uni joints??
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 04:51:48 PM
I suppose you've looked at combination uni joints??

Yeah.... I can get one that's 1350/1310..... but we really need a 1350
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Post by: GeoffA on November 11, 2020, 05:11:55 PM
Yeah.... I can get one that's 1350/1310..... but we really need a 1350

Not comfortable down-sizing on two of the cups?

Years ago (about 40 :'() my brother put a 351C 4v OP/CC, toploader and 9" into his XY van.
He asked me to get the tailshaft sorted for him while he was away on hols. It was going to cost serious money to get one fabbed, so I looked at alternatives.
After about half an hour at the tailshaft rack at the local wreckers, I left with a ZD Fairlane shaft. He wasn't sure about it (he wanted the big boy HO-jobbie).
That shaft was still in the car when he sold it....but then, he wasn't doing 8's..... ;D

 :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 05:16:22 PM
Exactly Smithers.... I bet he didn't have a trans brake either..... or super sticky tyres....LOL
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 15, 2020, 02:19:33 PM
Been working out a design and making some mounting brackets/plates for the spring sliders to bolt to.

By 10am yesterday and today though, it was just too friggin hot to work in the shed.

Once it hits 40 degrees in the ol shed, my enthusiasm just goes straight out the door..... followed by my arse.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 15, 2020, 04:25:29 PM
A couple of pics... if anyone wants to see what i'm rattling on about.

PIC 1. These are the pesky little brackets (only tacked so far) to be welded to the frame rails of the car.
          The sliders then bolt to the brackets to replace the shackles and bushes.

PIC 2. You can just make out where the old shackle bushes use to go.
          Once we have a shortened diff done, we can do an accurate placement for the sliders to work properly.

PIC 3. It'll be nice to be able to bolt the wheels on soon.
          For a standard wheel well, the 235's go in just nice.

PIC 4. Every fast street car needs one.  ;D
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Post by: Bird on November 15, 2020, 05:44:43 PM
Cant remember
you painting it or goin the patina?
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Post by: vern on November 15, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
How come i have just stumbled across this thread? Have a bit of back reading to do nlw.
Reminds me of my uncles Mk1 lotus cortina with mechanical injected stroked 302 windsor he used to race a Willowbank i believe in the 80's/90's, green and gold from memory.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 16, 2020, 03:59:59 AM
Cant remember
you painting it or goin the patina?

Painting it and trimming it Bruce.
Too much blood, sweat and tears to build, not to make it look nice.

Light green body in the same colour as this FB Holden and we will have a white roof, sunvisor and venetians.
Inside in light green, a dark green flash though the door trims and dark green carpet.

The engine bay and underneath is getting the green body colour as well.
The driveline and chassis/subframe rails will be in a charcoal hammer tone finish.
Yes, I know it won't stay shiny and clean underneath, but once every few months, i'll give the underside a hit with some spray and wipe.

Should just look like a rockabilly cruiser all finished.
Fit a parachute, quick tune change and a few odds and ends and its a drag strip bruiser.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 20, 2020, 01:52:50 PM
WOW.... what a week.

I managed to find a place that could supply the elusive diff to tailshaft piece I so badly needed.
$220 and its here..... yay.

Lots of pissing around the week sourcing the above, plus getting more work done to the pool.

I took my first  plunge into it this morning..... :-[
I've hurt my right ankle, left shoulder and I thing I've hurt my left hip.

Bit hard to tell, the other two fukking hurt so much, the hip is running a distant 3rd.

The pool will be much nicer to enjoy, once it has water in it I think.
Its fukkin awful when the fukker is still empty.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 21, 2020, 02:25:48 PM
Its funny how Shit just comes together sometimes.

I was busting my arse to find the elusive diff yoke which doesn't exist.
But talking to guys smarter than me, I was asked, why don't you use a flange to flange set up.

Not an angle i'd considered I must admit.

This is the new Sonnax light weight race piece up against the old Zephyr piece.
Hard to believe, I ran 14:00 @ 100 mph back in the early 80's on a Zephyr diff.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on November 25, 2020, 10:12:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gREm3iIgOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gREm3iIgOA)       .....      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaSnqZ2A7_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaSnqZ2A7_U)  ....
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1xREizT1k&t=94s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1xREizT1k&t=94s)  ..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 25, 2020, 01:40:49 PM
If he ever tips it over, that shifter is gunna do more than tighten nuts.

This is a second group who run Road Trip Drag Challenge.
VS
Street Machine Drag Challenge.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 04:30:04 AM
Bit of an update.

The new springs mounts for the front of the leaf springs, should come back from the fabricators this week.
Shane will start on the diff shortening soon, possibly tomorrow.
(He's flat out with work, and his back is still shot from an incident a few months back)

I've been bolting Shit on the car hell west and crooked to get some weight in it.
I need to car in its normal guise to set the position of the spring sliders correctly.

I ordered the laser cut exhaust flange blank yesterday.

Shane will use that to start on the pipework and the turbo mount.
We're borrowing a turbo for now, for me to find somewhere to stick it.

Seems pretty easy, but I want it close to the engine, real close, so the turd will spool quickly.
But, it has to be far enough away from the booster and master cyl not to cook them.
We need a spot, where we can do  a 5 inch dump pipe as well.
Also, need a spot where the intercooler pipes can be mounted, so it hasn't got super tight bends in it.
Can't wait to see some exhaust and turbo mount work on the engine.

Since the fall into the pool, i'm coming fairly good now, still walk with a friggin limp, back is friggin sore still, so taking Panadol's to dull the senses.
Like I can afford to dull the senses....  :-[

Picking up the paint this morning for the pool.... so will need to get a start on that pretty soon.
Would be nice to see it with water soon. (wish it had water when I fell in it)

And.... we have a heatwave due to hit on Sunday with next week be 40 degrees for at least 4 days in a row. YAAAAAY
That should make working in the shed easy.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 07:53:51 AM
I had these two photos sent tome yesterday.

Haven't seen them in maybe 15 or 20 years.

The two cars, 37 Fiat and 34 Ford I drove for Bob Scott..... waaaay back when.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on November 26, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
I had these two photos sent tome yesterday.

Haven't seen them in maybe 15 or 20 years.

The two cars, 37 Fiat and 34 Ford I drove for Bob Scott..... waaaay back when.

What sort of time did they run?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on November 26, 2020, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: tryagain
What sort of time did they run?
bottom one says 7.6 @174
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:12:28 PM
bottom one says 7.6 @174

And the little Fiat went 7:43 @ 180mph.

Both cars had the potential to run harder, much harder, but it was all funded by Bob Scott and any sponsorship I bought it.
When ya run on a budget, ya never going to be the fastest.

Although, the 34 ran under the National ET record and over the National MPH mark, so was pretty happy with that.

When we licensed the Fiat, I just thought it would be as AA/Modified Altered (AA stands for V8/turbo, nitrous or blower)

We ended up as a AA/Alcohol Altered.  :o
I thought that was pretty cool, it meant I was licensed to run in Top Alcohol and I had a Group 1 license.

Fun days huh, I just loved the savage assault on the senses when you unleash a blown car.... friggin loved it.

However, I think, 20 years later as I head into old age, the Zephyr will be good for a couple of stiff willies.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
Now, combine me with Footy Shorts Shane (below) and ya just know its gunna be fun.

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FYbayKXRuH7Y%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1_8CFjCJ1E7aR58sLwnJWnUaYikZOsgou9cUxjufxFOBUlSX8dYmPpnNY&h=AT392Y5gCV-OLQJwqmTchZiwAQJ4JC7CPRLlrvL5JI8Mx2LiSTWp3lO-bsSB_ktszOEwP3pGlb9MwkAoUYJ4Q1jyW_id1oVDNlaA2sQD-ACtaq7E0FyMAhY-7XBpBgpJval1VGgFDi5lGI3f41Wprw45zyir-rcEWwJLlHWoFQYncttAFN0zISpcKEBL3RKfi_UzesADSu6etCKO25GPXhhmVzrk_V9wEYVBmXQWy829fhhmJheP0gr0YxxsnjxOWwSK2Wwnf0mc9n22c2FHTxjjNAG3HMoPQzm_WUVo9u_samxbDYrFZ7Ri5aZM41wHpOLLUcR51MdSQ-vLH4SL_gRfnM93xN6jLVa_kOy0dO_RJOA8jNaDlEn4dkMkqekGKuwvjGNkniWzeGDys7p-VifJq4AgCXO_UJFbw60BOi30hZMJWONd3pm9Fiase0CCI5LUISmM7ANPOYwMPkOiS56qHWwIigynVLF7efP7YBgdUiM4Wb0oVYJ-_sLhAUIVG6mTmErtlQlkfmvjbgE8BuKxlxje4Nses-8XsswimbBjdvtUnkw1fKXinjt4-tITGxZ4Fjc9oQH7raYhZp3fUD84S6fasz-DMGLujovmrenBWYrvzpC9xSRqdL8Z5cNTikD2_NE7EIBnGV_ze5hWsZ-PFpZsifXKiUgDGv6VNGWmrBkzYs8KE1rfQ-geODc (https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FYbayKXRuH7Y%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1_8CFjCJ1E7aR58sLwnJWnUaYikZOsgou9cUxjufxFOBUlSX8dYmPpnNY&h=AT392Y5gCV-OLQJwqmTchZiwAQJ4JC7CPRLlrvL5JI8Mx2LiSTWp3lO-bsSB_ktszOEwP3pGlb9MwkAoUYJ4Q1jyW_id1oVDNlaA2sQD-ACtaq7E0FyMAhY-7XBpBgpJval1VGgFDi5lGI3f41Wprw45zyir-rcEWwJLlHWoFQYncttAFN0zISpcKEBL3RKfi_UzesADSu6etCKO25GPXhhmVzrk_V9wEYVBmXQWy829fhhmJheP0gr0YxxsnjxOWwSK2Wwnf0mc9n22c2FHTxjjNAG3HMoPQzm_WUVo9u_samxbDYrFZ7Ri5aZM41wHpOLLUcR51MdSQ-vLH4SL_gRfnM93xN6jLVa_kOy0dO_RJOA8jNaDlEn4dkMkqekGKuwvjGNkniWzeGDys7p-VifJq4AgCXO_UJFbw60BOi30hZMJWONd3pm9Fiase0CCI5LUISmM7ANPOYwMPkOiS56qHWwIigynVLF7efP7YBgdUiM4Wb0oVYJ-_sLhAUIVG6mTmErtlQlkfmvjbgE8BuKxlxje4Nses-8XsswimbBjdvtUnkw1fKXinjt4-tITGxZ4Fjc9oQH7raYhZp3fUD84S6fasz-DMGLujovmrenBWYrvzpC9xSRqdL8Z5cNTikD2_NE7EIBnGV_ze5hWsZ-PFpZsifXKiUgDGv6VNGWmrBkzYs8KE1rfQ-geODc)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:21:03 PM
Wait until you see him on this pass.
He's pissing himself laughing, as the car just didn't wanna play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdrItcgKymU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdrItcgKymU)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Shane just messaged me..... diff cut is about to happen right now.  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on November 26, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
Now, combine me with Footy Shorts Shane (below) and ya just know its gunna be fun.
https://youtu.be/YbayKXRuH7Y (https://youtu.be/YbayKXRuH7Y)
gee... amazing reaction time :D I reckon I'd have kicked that.  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 02:37:25 PM
gee... amazing reaction time :D I reckon I'd have kicked that.  :cup:

I gave him plenty about that too.... ha ha ha.

Only comes in one shade of green, no sense waiting for a colour chart.

I use to be outta there as the last yellow was going off.... it would either be a killer green light or a red light by a couple of thousands of a second.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2020, 06:22:28 AM
Drag Challenge Weekend kicked off yesterday.

I'm watching like a hawk, the 235 Radial Blown class.

With the Zephyr expected to run in the 8:70/8:80 region without issue, it was interesting to say the least, to see who ran what.

The Torana, (fastest 235 blown car to date) which has run 8:64, couldn't muster better than a 9:00.
Juan Kudnig's HT Holden however, cranked out an 8:63.

Once we get it on the track, we'll soon know whether we can run with the big dogs......


Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
I guess ya gotta know when to hold 'em , and know when to fold 'em.

From Drag Challenge....

Rob Huston’s 1975 Dodge D5N had one of the day’s big blow-ups as it ejected the trans in the braking area at 110mph. The turbo, injected 355 Holden-powered pick-up gave Rob an adventure trying to stay off the walls, and it was obvious he was out of DCW.

“When I got out to have a look, the body of the transmission was being dragged along by the shifter cable and the torque convertor was being sort-of kicked along the track by the trans crossmember,” Rob said.