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Title: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 03:54:21 PM
OK, it was suggested, I maybe run a separate thread for the Zephyr build.

So, here goes, but first a reminder of what I/we, want to achieve.

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.

This is the start of doing just that:

This car was sold new in Gunnedah and has been off the road since the 90's.
Yes, we bought the car in a stripped down condition, which saves me a mountain of work.

The bulk of the car is mint, with only some small patch panels on the rear floors.
We have every bit of trim, screws, brackets, bolts, the works..... only thing missing, is the engine and trans.

Keep in mind, we all look pretty average in our underwear.



 
Title: Re: Jeeper's Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:00:13 PM
Nice... :cup:

The advantage of buying it stripped down is you can see exactly what it's like. No hidden surprises....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:01:46 PM
Building a NA Barra to your specs?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 30, 2020, 04:02:45 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 04:05:41 PM
Building a NA Barra to your specs?

Yes mate, we'll upgrade the rods and turbo pistons and Footy Shorts Shane will handle the turbo side of things.
I'm a nitrous guy..... I wouldn't know Shit about turbos, but gunna start learning I think.

It should be a fun deal.... piss easy to drive, run some stout numbers.  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2020, 04:06:55 PM
Very nice

Not bad for $2,000 and i'm using his trailer next Saturday to bring it home too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 04:11:03 PM
Not bad for $2,000...

Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:

That can come later.... :P :P

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bigfish on May 30, 2020, 04:31:50 PM
So...Myswags version of Custom Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on May 30, 2020, 04:41:07 PM
Look forward to the commentary on this build

GG

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 30, 2020, 05:09:45 PM
.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine.

It's what all the cool kids are putting in their patrols nowadays, better for ripping the crap out of the tracks by the looks of things https://www.facebook.com/BarraTheWorldOfficial/videos/1020336371474667/?d=null&vh=e (https://www.facebook.com/BarraTheWorldOfficial/videos/1020336371474667/?d=null&vh=e)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 30, 2020, 05:16:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI) .....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s)           ... Turbo Yoda  ...
 :cup: :cup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6O1qnMmak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ6O1qnMmak)  .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 30, 2020, 05:39:44 PM
Looking forwards to the build, is it just me or is it a bit coincidental that your better half suggests you build a drag car (plenty of time out in the shed) after your bum trumpeting goes to a whole new level.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 06:29:39 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0GJkNAwKMI) .....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEtBeqlkG_s)           ... Turbo Yoda  ...
 :cup: :cup:

Thanks edz, really enjoyed the 2nd vid....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DannyG on May 30, 2020, 06:52:12 PM
I was getting bored with life but I have just found a new interest...looking forward to the updates ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on May 30, 2020, 07:39:08 PM
Yep, and it looks like it hasn't had some numbskull molesting it... :cup:



 :cheers:

Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2020, 07:44:42 PM
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Ya think?..... ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 03:07:51 AM
Ha ha....sounds like it gonna get raped....not molested !!  ;D ;D

Yeah, a little bit huh. Only what we have to though. I really need this thing to stay "looking stock".
Since yesterday, I've found out a R31 Nissan front end is pretty much a bolt up deal.
So, that's something I need to look into much further straight up.
For rego purposes and drivability, this little turd needs to stop and handle better than any MK2 Zephyr has ever done before.
The official built start time is tomorrow, 1st June.
IF, and I really mean IF, I can get a decent run at it, I would like to be ready for Drag Challenge Weekend 2021.
This will be either in April or May next year.

I'm a little excited...... I think i'm getting a stiffy.  :-[

OK, now that's out of the way......  >:D  :-*

These are some figures on the how's, why's, and where for's.

A stock MK2 weighs in at a curb weight of 2,692 lbs or 1221 kgs.... we'll work on lbs for this exercise. 
So, we have weight savings in some areas, and cop weight penalties in other areas,
Then there's my fat arse as well.

So, working on a finished weight of 3,300 lbs race ready. (shouldn't be an issue at all)
With 700 HP at the rear wheels. (piss it in)
Turning the engine to a mere 6,000 rpm, after all, we want the motor to live.  :angel:
Using a 235/60x15 drag radial, you end up with a 26" tall tyre.
Combine a 3.3 diff gear ratio to the tyre height.
We end up with the following results.
An elapsed time of 9.55 seconds @ 140 mph.  8)

Now here, is where it can get interesting.
At only 200lbs heavier, we drop back to a 9:7 @ 137 mph.

But, if we come in at 200 lbs lighter, we run a 9:39 @ 142.5 mph. (hence the need for a parachute, once at or over 140mph)

Lots of variables can change the outcome, but this is usually pretty damn close.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on May 31, 2020, 07:38:12 AM
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: SJindustries on May 31, 2020, 11:02:58 AM
So...Myswags version of Monster Garage!!   Should be interesting watching the build... :cheers:
fixed it
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 11:30:31 AM
Looking forward to watching this build Kev, but whats happening with the holden? http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=28369.msg1015288#msg1015288)


The Tank is still here. Picking up the water pump Wednesday for that and get that finished off.
The Grey motor is here, waiting for the owner to return the FB wagon with the rust work on the floors done. (Might be a few weeks yet on that)

The Zephyr, I went the other side of Toowoomba this morning and picked up an old pair Mickey Thompson Drag Radials.
They're buggered, but will be great for doing the diff set up.
New ones are $350 each, so will hold off until I need 'em.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 31, 2020, 12:07:54 PM
Just had to have a play .. Jillsy you could use this for the Harley Drag Bike
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2020, 01:47:51 PM
Doing some history checks on the car.'\ today, thanks to some really good contacts.

Built in Sydney, its a May/1959 build.
It would seem, the car hasn't been registered now since the mid 90's.  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 02, 2020, 06:07:21 AM
Wow, i'd forgotten how much homework there is to do when doing one of these builds.

The diff, will be one of the first things to be done, along with a new front suspension set up.
Just so much more stuff available now, than there was back in 1990 when I did the mighty Datto 1200.

Harrop Engineering do a wicked looking TrueTrac 31 spline unit that should suit our needs to a tee.
Lots of folks would just go a 9 inch diff and be done with it.
Such a massive amount of extra weight, which we can well do without.
So, we will be running a Borg Warner diff.
Ratios available are 3:27 or 3:45. (no aftermarket ratios are vailable)

Of course, the 3:27 will be close enough for our desired 3:30 I want.
We need to sort the diff, to sort the tyres, to sort the clearance to see if I need to tub it.
I'm really hoping, the 235/60 x 15 Drag Radials will slip up the bum with no mods.
If we have to cut and widen the factory wheel tubs, now is the time.

The other cool thing, is the front end.

I'll be getting some photos and measurements on Thursday of a very cool set up.
A Nissan Skyline R31 front end, SHOULD be near bolt in fit.
This gives me a decent size disc brake rotor on the front.
Because i'm using either a 205 or 195 front tyre, I may not need power steering.
The Nissan front though, opens up the option of a power rack.
Some Nissan Pulsars, use an electric power steering pump too.

Oh well, bit of a shed re-arranging day for today, so the Zephyr goes into its hidey hole.
Parts run tomorrow and Thursday coming up.
Day off on Friday, bring the Zephyr home Saturday.

I'm enjoying this being retired gig....  ???

Stoopid wife.... making me build cars like this..... Bad Wife.....  >:D

OH, and 1 hiccup, which i'm waiting on info for.
Will the IHRA governing body, allow me to run 9's with a bench seat..... they friggin better.  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 02, 2020, 08:46:53 AM
Just get a bucket seat base bolster built so that it fits / slips / straps  onto the bench seat as a removable section .  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 02, 2020, 09:35:29 AM
So, like this?
(https://car-from-uk.com/ebay/carphotos/full/ebay147035989068833.jpg)
or
(https://live.staticflickr.com/8030/7985413192_51e64acc3b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 02, 2020, 09:40:27 AM
Same as the first one, but not looking so much like a race.
More like granddad's car, so I can walk quietly but carry a fukkin big stick.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jwb on June 02, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Well well well!
I've been keen to pass this build info onto a mate of mine who's been building, re-building Zephrs since before he had a license.
Small world, I only got halfway thru the description and he finished my sentence and said your name!
And that you had called him about it!
Him being Bruce M.
I would definitely be keen to see this in the flesh!
Cheers


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2020, 04:03:24 AM
Ol Brucey..... Yeah, i was chasing him regarding the Nissan Skyline front end.

Bruce put me onto the guy I got the car off.
The one he mentioned had sold, but Neil had this one, so home she goes.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jillsy on June 03, 2020, 09:01:26 PM
Just had to have a play .. Jillsy you could use this for the Harley Drag Bike

 :cup: :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 02:39:21 PM
HOLY CRAP...

I started to bring the spare parts home that came with the car today.
12 doors, 2 front guards, 4 grilles, 2 sets of tail lights, 3 front apron panels, a brand new set of spats, a tailshaft loop, the rear seat and around 20 or so various door cards/trims, some other assoc bits n pieces.
Still to come, 10 front windscreens, 8 rear windscreens, 14 boxes of "stuff", a bonnet, a front seat and a million pieces of chrome trim and stuff.
I can't say I saw a front and rear bumper yet, but most likely there.

I ordered the number plates yesterday KQQL 59 (Mooneyes themed with the 2 Q's.)
The windscreen cavities are all taped with race tape and black plastic, so we don't rip the hood lining out on the trip home on Saturday.
 
Man, i'm stuffed today.
 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on June 04, 2020, 03:10:20 PM
You sure you only bought one?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
You sure you only bought one?

Makes ya wonder... don't it.

I think I may have sourced a R31 Nissan Skyline front end from a 89,000klm car this afternoon too.
This will give me the power rack and pinion steering and bigger front disc rotors.
The guy will take $650, which is a bargain for me.
Fingers crossed on this one.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on June 04, 2020, 06:06:20 PM
I wonder if there's a 'Camper Trailer Rebuild' thread on the 'Street/Strip Jalopy Build Forum'?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Champin on June 04, 2020, 06:35:56 PM
I don't know but I'm glad we got this one. I'm watching this build closely. Go Jeepers. Love your work.


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: grc on June 05, 2020, 09:25:55 AM
   
  Yes me to love a car build


     CHEERS GRC   :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2020, 12:13:45 PM
Our "Drag Challenge" contender is in the shed.

Stuff me sideways, you should see how many more spares there are to come home.
I counted the windscreens today, just for the hell of it..... 11 fronts and 11 rears.

The car itself, has a ripper shell, but some aspects of it, suggest its been off the road for longer than first thought.
The last rego it had, was Sept. 1970..... I was 10 years old.....  ;D

It has passed through 2 owners to me, but neither had done much.
One guy attempted some repairs and just rooted a door in the process.... bit of a dill me thinks. ???
The next guy, stripped it down and did some great work on it, before selling it to me.  :cheers:

Now its up to me, to stick a heap of horsepower up its blurter and back onto the road.   :cup:  :angel:

A few pics to look at.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2020, 02:41:41 PM
This is an R31 Nissan Skyline front end in a MK3 Zephyr.

Just a space saver on there at the moment.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: britts on June 06, 2020, 05:03:38 PM
Looks like a fun project, thanks for sharing

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 07, 2020, 04:33:51 AM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Champin on June 07, 2020, 09:51:40 AM
Don't hold back Jeepers. This is a camping forum but it's also about sharing all sorts of stuff. I for one am interested in this build so give it heaps mate.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on June 07, 2020, 11:21:11 AM
Don't hold back Jeepers. This is a camping forum but it's also about sharing all sorts of stuff. I for one am interested in this build so give it heaps mate.

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X2. Go for it Kev, this is a General section where anything and everything goes. There are many other sections and threads for camper trailer and camping issues.
Having owned more than one of each of the four models of Zephyrs in my younger days i am looking foward to this build.
Cheers

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2020, 12:07:25 PM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.
if a firewood thread can go 30 odd pages, you'll be safe to go 300...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 07, 2020, 02:14:57 PM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2020, 02:16:42 PM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D
thats enough...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on June 08, 2020, 09:09:53 AM
Being a camping forum, I wasn't too sure if a dedicated thread was right or wrong with the car build thing.
It sort of evolved from the "what did you do in your shed", thread.

I realise, only those with an interest in these sorts of things would even read it.

So, in an effort, to not bore the tits off everyone, i'm just going to do a post every Friday I think with the progress from that week.
Maybe, just like a general overview of the week.

With a build of this caliber, sometimes, the tiniest thing, can make the builder all warm and fuzzy whilst no one else gives a crap and vice versa.

So, from here on in, it'll be a Friday thing with the odd pic or two.

Thanks, Kev. Gee, some blokes on here should lighten up. Talk about 'High Horses'! Isolation getting to you, perhaps? :-*
 All I was getting at is that there are different sections for 4 x 4s, Fishing, Tucker and wait for it, a 'Camper Trailer Build' section.
If there was a 'Vehicle Build' section, anyone who was interested in Jeeper's Reno, which I am and will follow events, could go straight to that section.
I reckon it would also cover other members restorations, such as MarkGU's build of his charity run vehicle. It would mean direct access to the topic at hand. If Jeepers or anyone else doing restoration, doesn't post for a week or two, the existing thread will get shuffled down the order in 'General Chat'.
Instead of having, perhaps 3 or 4 different restos threads scattered across the forum, they'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on June 08, 2020, 10:03:40 AM
OK guys.... just remember, you asked for it.  ;D

Fire away, mods approve

GG
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 10:45:32 AM
Thanks, Kev. Gee, some blokes on here should lighten up. Talk about 'High Horses'! Isolation getting to you, perhaps? :-*
 All I was getting at is that there are different sections for 4 x 4s, Fishing, Tucker and wait for it, a 'Camper Trailer Build' section.
If there was a 'Vehicle Build' section, anyone who was interested in Jeeper's Reno, which I am and will follow events, could go straight to that section.
I reckon it would also cover other members restorations, such as MarkGU's build of his charity run vehicle. It would mean direct access to the topic at hand. If Jeepers or anyone else doing restoration, doesn't post for a week or two, the existing thread will get shuffled down the order in 'General Chat'.
Instead of having, perhaps 3 or 4 different restos threads scattered across the forum, they'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

I don't think anyone was too worried about your post..... I wasn't.
I was more concerned with rattling on like a noisy tappet and annoying the Shit outta everyone.



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 08, 2020, 11:42:06 AM
They'd all be under the one section.
Just my thoughts.

Hense the " MY Swag Garage "   ..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2020, 12:09:23 PM
The big question -- fluffy dice, or bowling hat on rear shelf ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Beachman on June 08, 2020, 12:18:42 PM
Go for it because I’m just amazed at your ingenuity working out what new parts will fit an old car. Plus looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
The big question -- fluffy dice, or bowling hat on rear shelf ???

Bowling hat with a "I LOVE LAWN BOWLS" sticker.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 08, 2020, 01:19:47 PM
Bowling hat with a "I LOVE LAWN BOWLS" sticker.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283)


https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/ (https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/)

and .... ???
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:33:02 PM
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262793891283)


https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/ (https://www.bowlersparadise.com.au/shop/Bowls-Hats/)

and .... ???
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523 (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/253549201523)

Ha ha ha.... you're on it.

Spent most of today trying to make room for more spare parts.
Fitted up a drag radial to a rim I had..... sits pretty nice on a 7" rim too.
Another load of spares to come home tomorrow.
Pickup the Skyline front end on Wednesday.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 08, 2020, 01:52:23 PM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 08, 2020, 01:54:47 PM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D

Or NOT....  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 05:19:55 AM
Go for it because I’m just amazed at your ingenuity working out what new parts will fit an old car. Plus looking forward to seeing the finished product.

It's a bit of hit n miss sometimes working out what will fit, but, at the end of the day, its all just nuts n bolts and imagination.
Surrounding yourself with the right people is huge part of it too.
Footy Shorts Shane will have plenty of input..... as will my mate Dougie.
Both will be offered a run down the quarter too..... sort of the least a person could  do huh.

I'd known for a while, about the Commodore struts being a goer in the Zephyrs, however, talking to the right folks, is where the R31 front end came in from.
It will need to be changed from 4 to 5 stud, but i'm hoping we can use the late model 2002 onwards Falcon units. (I know AU Ford will work though)

When I built the V8 Datsun 1200, one of the highlights, was finding out, a VH Valiant wagon rear handbrake cable fitted like it was made for it.
I bought it from the wreckers to shorten for a template to make one off, thinking it would waaaay too long standard.
Picture the length of the Val.
Picture the length of the Datto. (handbrake between the seats)

I hooked it all up, and when it went on, and the adjustment ended up slap bang perfect, I just couldn't believe it.

Sometimes, it can be smallest thing, but if it works, it makes ya happy.
(Even the wife says that)  :-[  :'(
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Post by: Spada on June 09, 2020, 06:02:17 AM
Could get a pair of Bowls / drill and tap them, then bolt them onto the rear parcel shelf ..   ;D ;D

Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
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Post by: jclures on June 09, 2020, 06:58:49 AM
Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
Jeeper's might already have that now, so that might not work. >:D
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 09:32:50 AM
Nah, box of tissues with a knitted cover would look cooler.
perfect to hand to the bloke at the other end of the 1/4.
 Knitted Kleenex Box Cover by Wendy Suckow

https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/knitted-kleenex-box-cover (https://www.ravelry.com/patterns/library/knitted-kleenex-box-cover)
(https://images4-g.ravelrycache.com/uploads/Craftwow/80264254/webp/IMG_1221_medium2.webp#jpg)
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 09:34:34 AM
You are going to have the shopping list  (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/273419446390) on the guards ???
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Kd4AAOSw-zNbe6dL/s-l1600.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 12:05:58 PM
That would be a NO Bruce.
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Post by: Bird on June 09, 2020, 12:15:32 PM
That would be a NO Bruce.
spoil sport.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2020, 01:00:11 PM
Well, another load of spare parts home and unloaded.
Another mint R/H front guard and the bonnet is a cracker.

The old Zephyr front struts and disc brake set up.... bugger me, i'd forgotten how friggin heavy there were.
The entire Nissan front will weigh in less I think.
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Post by: gronk on June 09, 2020, 07:09:27 PM

Another mint R/H front guard and the bonnet is a cracker.



Will you have any spares for when you bend it into the armco ??   ;D
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Post by: tedota on June 09, 2020, 10:13:32 PM
You're gonna need a bigger shed. 8) ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2020, 03:38:26 AM
Will you have any spares for when you bend it into the armco ??   ;D

Hopefully, that won't happen.
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Post by: Bird on June 10, 2020, 10:30:20 AM
Spinners?
http://www.hub-cap.com/spinnerhubcaps.htm (http://www.hub-cap.com/spinnerhubcaps.htm)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2020, 02:54:40 AM
You have got to be fukkin kidding..... No Bird, no spinners..... ya friggin Nimrod.

I might end up running chrome smoothies however.
I was given four 15 x 7's and the drag radial sits ok on a 7" rim. (I was going to use 8's)

Going to order a pair of 15 x 5's for the front, once the front end is installed.

Speaking of which, I now have an R31 Nissan Skyline complete front end to install.
OH, they are a near straight up, bolt in fit.... they said..... bullShit.

Bit more, well, a lot more work really to install, but I did score a template for the location holes.
I have to make an adaptor for the strut to mount in the tower, there is some minor mods to be done to the R31 strut bar mounts as well.

All can be done, just going to take longer.
I'm expecting it will be a few weeks before I can even consider the BA or AU disc's and calipers.

These front ends are scarce too.... The young guy I got it off, only sold it to me because it was going into a "cool project" as he described it.
Oh, and the fact I coughed up $650 too.  :D

It came out of a fairly decent car, pretty low mileage car and all that crap.

When I left his house, he had an R31, complete car sitting in the driveway minus a front end.
An engine crane had the engine strapped to it, so it wouldn't drop out like a bag of Shit, only fresh air was between it and the driveway.

I hope his engine crane doesn't creep, the motor is still connected to the radiator and all the other crap.

Day off today, it's the Cool Car Crafters International Picnic Day today.
Got an old drag racing mate dropping in today.

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Post by: Bird on June 11, 2020, 10:36:03 AM
A few car club badges?
(http://www.simoncars.co.uk/ford/slides/ac_Ford%20Zephyr%20Six%201954%20convertible%20head.jpg)

not going the horrid gasser look?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/5539/14568601301_b23101e043_n.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2020, 05:00:46 PM
I saw the photos of the donor car today for the first time......  :cup:

What a ripper, and only 226,000klm on the clock, so it should be a great rebuilder.

The ol Pensioner Performance Zephyr is coming together nicely as far as the parts list goes.
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Post by: tryagain on June 11, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
it should be a great rebuilder.

Rebuild? upgraded ARP headstuds, oil pump gears and valve springs, then shove 22psi into it and you are looking at close to 700rwhp. Still with the factory head gasket!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2020, 02:58:44 AM
Rebuild? upgraded ARP headstuds, oil pump gears and valve springs, then shove 22psi into it and you are looking at close to 700rwhp. Still with the factory head gasket!

Getting a set of Spool rods and pistons in it as well, as well a good head gasket and the bits you mentioned.

These Barra motors are just freak of a thing. Me gunning for 700 hp at the wheels, is just a doodle huh.
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Post by: edz on June 12, 2020, 01:56:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Rt9sx51TQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Rt9sx51TQ)   ;D   
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Post by: tryagain on June 12, 2020, 07:43:28 PM
Getting a set of Spool rods and pistons in it as well, as well a good head gasket and the bits you mentioned.

These Barra motors are just freak of a thing. Me gunning for 700 hp at the wheels, is just a doodle huh.

Yep the fact you can get a wrecker engine for next to nothing, add forced induction and easily make big power is pretty crazy, there is a reason they lasted well over 1 mill km's in the Taxies though.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2020, 03:04:55 AM
We really do want to street drive the nasty little sucker too, as well as race the wheels off it at Willowbank from time to time.

If i'm honest with myself, it should see, maybe 5,000 to 8,000 klm during a year on the street.
Throw in a Drag Challenge 3 day weekend..... 3 days back to back racing and 750klm.
If we headed south (2,000 to 3,000 round trip) for a 5 day Drag Challenge meet, there's another 5 days back to back racing and around 1,500 to 2,000 klm over those 5 days of racing too.

This is why, the engine will be fully redone with some good bits in it.
I just need to know, its not going to dismantle itself during a pass.

I can't have Country Lane Classic Cars and Pensioner's Performance getting a bad name.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 05:50:20 AM
Well, a mate an I went and picked up a 2007 Falcon tray back ute yesterday.  :cup:

Having been on the Sunshine Coast, its a bit crusty in the cab itself.

But hey, for the grand sum $200.... yep, 200 smackers, i drove it on and off the trailer.

With a good battery, 1/4 tank of fuel, factory mag wheels, brand new spare, radio works, the auto seems to select fine and 226,000 klm.

WINNER WINNER..... Chicken dinner.

I shouldn't fib.... it was really $400, but F-S-Shane and I went halves in it.
He wants the front sheet metal, inside trim and the shifter.
I'll strip his gear off it over the coming weeks for him.

Just worked out perfect, the guy who sold me the Zephyr let me use his trailer to get it too. :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 10:42:25 AM
What a $200 ute looks like.
Our Nissan Skyline front end.

And, our spiffy new number plates arrived on Friday.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 14, 2020, 10:44:16 AM
Standing room only now....  ;D

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Post by: Spada on June 15, 2020, 12:28:36 PM
mind the boat  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 18, 2020, 03:08:13 PM
Well boys and girls, we're getting closer to a full blown hook in now.

I removed the Nissan struts, calipers, rotors and crap from the front end Monday.
Its now laying on the floor in front of the car.... with a bewildered look on it. THATS NO STINKING NISSAN..... WHAT GIVES.
While I was doing it, the bloody Shitty doors were giving me the screaming irrits.

So, I bare metaled some portions of three doors, sealed 'em and dropped a bit of undercoat over them.
They're loosely hung for the time being, but make the car a bit nicer on the eye.

During the week, I've also bought some brand new front and rear lenses for the old girl, along with some other goodies.
Best $100 spent for a while.
Another load of parts home.....  ??? I'm the go to guy for a MK2 Zephyr now.
Ihave a guy coming out next week to get a fuel tank off me.... I have 3 of 'em.

I have a guy in Rocky, who is bringing me a free set of rear venetians down next month. FREEEEEEEEE.
I did offer to buy them.... he insisted.... FREEEEEEEE.

A full rubber kit has been ordered today as well, screen, door and boot rubber.
All the bailey channels and Shit.
Doug Matthews at The Rubber Shop in Brissie is onto it.
Doing a run to Tin Can Bay next Wednesday, as I need to get some Shit in order for the trimmer.

I pretty much now, have a big kick arse mecceno set or pretty close to it.

Damn it, tomorrow and Saturday, are going to be mowing days.... someone has to do it.
Place looks pretty tidy, but I'll do it, get it outta da road and give myself a clear run next week.
These first few weeks with any build, well, a serious build anyway, just plain, flat out, need planning.
No good hitting a brick wall mid build.

So, Monday, at 7:30am we hook in and start setting the Nissan front end into place.
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Post by: Bird on June 19, 2020, 10:58:53 AM
Seems you have picked the right engine


This might be the craziest Barra swap we’ve seen

https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ka-with-barra-engine-is-wild (https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/ford-ka-with-barra-engine-is-wild)

(https://d3lp4xedbqa8a5.cloudfront.net/imagegen/max/ccr/1023/-/s3/digital-cougar-assets/whichcar/2019/01/23/-1/Ford-Ka-with-Barra-engine-is-wild-news.jpg)
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Post by: kylarama on June 19, 2020, 01:27:42 PM
Ken Block is apparently considering a Turbo Barra for his upcoming Fox Body Mustang.

With a big cheque book, it would be cool to see how far they could take it.

Sent from my SM-G960F using Tapatalk

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 19, 2020, 01:55:50 PM
About this far I reckon....  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpzdjT9P28 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPpzdjT9P28)

Its no Dyno Queen either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeU6E50pxcs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeU6E50pxcs)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:04:06 PM
This week involved getting the front subframe rails prepped for the new front end.

Most folks, would just run a length of strap steel along the top, drop in some crush tubes  and bolt her up.
I've measured everything about 4 times or more I reckon, before touching the sub frames.

Because we are going wedge some serious HP up the ol Z car's blurter... I went a different way slightly.
I was pissing around in the Gatton steel works on Tuesday and came home with some lovely new angle iron.
(I also got some pretty thick tubing for crush tubes, and a sheet of 3mm flat steel)
The perfect size for the crush tubes, came only in a 6 metre length too..... bugger, it came home in 3 x 2metre lengths

With the two new main X member bolt holes drilled in the rails, I then drilled the top of the 3mm angle iron to suit.
This Shit, was a deadest perfect fit against the top and side of the rail.

Then, using the original mounting points for the factory Zephyr cross member, I could secure the new steel laterally as well through the other side of the angle iron.
The test fit up was on point..... yeah, i was shocked too.  :o
I can't help but think, being bolted both ways has just plain flat out got to be better.

After buying a set of $100 Chinese tapered hole drill bit thingys, I opened up the top rail to accept some heavy duty crush tubes.
I've cut some scalloped bits of tubing, to hold the crush tubes secure during the welding.
Got a welder arriving tomorrow from a mate to weld the crush tubes in place.
I'm getting photos of each step, so I can show proof to the engineer what we have done.

Saturday, i will lift in the Nissan X member, control arms, power steering rack etc into the car.
With that in place, then its time to make the custom top mounts to secure a Nissan (Jap) strut assembly into a Zephyr, (Pommy/Aust) tower top.

So far, so good. My measurements, say I will widen the front track by 40mm.
This will work in my favour, as the original Zephyr front ends, keep the wheels well inside the front guards.
By using a 195/50 x 15 front tyre, it "SHOULD" all the clear lock to lock.
The rear track will be increased into the bargain as well, running a 235 rear tyre and with the diff narrowed to suit, it should fall within (JUST) the transport guidelines.

I will post some pics soon, although, but very little to see really, for friggin hours of planning and pissing around.

Everyday, it's a-gettin' closer
To goin' faster, than a roller coaster


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:05:03 PM
Me and computers....  ???
.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:06:58 PM
 ???
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Post by: edz on June 25, 2020, 04:11:15 PM
      ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBWkM0jzK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLBWkM0jzK0)     ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Bird on June 25, 2020, 04:37:30 PM
old cars can handle a bit of sniff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWwUdIAILg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWwUdIAILg)
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Post by: Spada on June 25, 2020, 04:47:50 PM
, it came home in 3 x 2metre lengths


in the glovebox of the caddy  ;)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 25, 2020, 04:54:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7JUzzrWls (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c7JUzzrWls)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 27, 2020, 01:17:01 PM
Did the first test fit of the Nissan front end today.

Looked pretty good, but some more trimming was needed before its a total fit in thing yet.
It was however, bolted up by the 4 main points that I had to drill and fit the crush tubes too.

I welded the crush tubes in first thing this morning..... after 30 years, my welding skills were.... lets just say...OK.
By the fourth tube, I was getting the hang of it again.
Welding in thongs, proved different too.

Pretty happy so far, every single bolt, is a damn spot on fit..... which scares the bejesus out of me straight up.

I wanted to give a brass drift a whack with the hammer, but didn't have my glasses on.
Too friggin hard to climb back out through he radiator cavity to get them, so had a lash anyway.

Missed the drift completely, but lucky for me, my thumb stopped it hitting anything serious.  :-[

Then it turned out, i'd pushed my glasses up into my hair...... I never do that.

Will do a bit more constructing of brackets and Shit tomorrow for the mounting of the sway bar and radius rods.
These are a mixture of Zephyr and Nissan for the radius rod mounts.

Off to the bolt place again on Monday.

PHOTO 1.  Just wanna bolt this into there.
PHOTO 2. This is the template for the bolt holes.
PHOTO 3. Crush tubes are pretty solid.
PHOTO 4. Bolted down and then across.
PHOTO 5. I threw some decent doors on to make the ol girl a bit easier on the eye.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 27, 2020, 02:32:01 PM
and back out again.  :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 28, 2020, 05:52:40 AM
When I rattle on about this car being built for Drag Challenge, some will know what i'm on about, others would never have heard of it before.

Take a look at the clip below, this what i'm on about.
You'll also work out pretty fast, you don't get to take the direct route from track to track either.
Hmmmm, barra power too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1F4wPoDK2k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1F4wPoDK2k)
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Post by: GeoffA on June 28, 2020, 07:22:41 AM
Looks like a load of fun. Go the Maori Mustang!!..... :cup: :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 12:43:53 PM
Looks like a load of fun. Go the Maori Mustang!!..... :cup: :cup:

Little bit of butt hurt today..... to the tune of $1,440 plus a $100 worth of postage.

***290 mm Big Brake Upgrade Kit for Nissan R31 Skyline***,

2 x slotted disc rotors DBA502 in Ford Falcon bolt pattern to suit 1/2 inch studs.
2 x calipers type 2 with pads DB1375
2 x R31 mounting hubs, Ford Falcon stud pattern.
2 x Seals (P7028) 1.81 x 2.32  x 0.68” , “A” and “B” type bearings & grease caps
2 x Mounting Plates 7959 (modified)
4 x 9/16 bolts UNF by 1 ¾” long grade 8
4 x 9/16 spring washers
4 x M12 cap screws 1.75 pitch by 60 long grade 8
4 x M12 spring washers
4 x spacers 26.5 mm thick (LARGE FLATS REQD)
2 x braided brake hoses to suit
2 x banjo bolts and 4 off copper washers.

I won't see this stuff for about 3 weeks, as the hubs are modified as ordered.
Front end is now all but in.
On Wednesday, I'm having a look at how someone else has done the mods to the Radius bar mounts on their MK2 Maori Mustang. (Geoff A)

I want to see if my plan of attack in my noggin is better or not.
No sense building a better mouse trap, unless I hate theirs and "go my own way"
Strut top adaptors are a fairly easy mod, but again, just wanna check out another first.

I'll be wrapped once I can get the ol girl onto some wheels at the front.

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Post by: edz on June 29, 2020, 01:56:12 PM
http://www.trak-life.com/diy-hardrace-front-castor-rods-replacement-on-nissans/ (http://www.trak-life.com/diy-hardrace-front-castor-rods-replacement-on-nissans/) A set of these would make setting caster angles  a lot easier .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 02:42:07 PM
Yep, highly likely we will end up with gear like that.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 29, 2020, 05:17:03 PM
Getting closer now, still some fab work to do, but looking like it fits a little bit now.
So much pissing around and so little to show for the moment.
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Post by: Spada on June 29, 2020, 05:21:00 PM
Jeepers, you need a new creeper
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 03:33:22 AM
Jeepers, you need a new creeper

My other one is much newer, but a wheel broke and it rolled me off like a big ol bag a Shit.

Back in 1978, my then girlfriend, later on, first wife, gave me that creeper on the 03/08/78.... true thing.
I know it was that date, because she had it engraved and that she loved me......   :angel:

These days, she'd just beat me around the head with it I reckon.
Haven't seen her since the mid 90's now either......
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Post by: edz on June 30, 2020, 07:48:30 AM
You going to seam weld the shell and run a chassis kit in this O'l girl Kev  ? .. Might have  to try and limit her hurting herself a bit when she does  the twist  riding the wild ponies ..
Zip tying the doors shut might not be a good look .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 09:16:17 AM
Chassis connector and a 6 point chrome moly roll cage will do it just fine.

Seam welding is for those rally wankers who just thrash cars through the scrub.  ;D
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Post by: noel_w on June 30, 2020, 10:22:07 AM

Seam welding is for those rally wankers who just thrash cars through the scrub.  ;D
Ever tried it? it's a lot of fun. My poor old 70's datto just loved red line sucking huge amounts of super through the twin 45DCOE webers while dodging trees.  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 11:35:26 AM
Nah... a drag racer through and though.

Spoke to the engineer this morning.... looking pretty there so far.
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Post by: edz on June 30, 2020, 11:50:44 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 30, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
Geez Edz, if ya have to have someone to blabber instructions in a foreign lingo, I can just go for a drive with the wife and get her to yell at me in Norwegian.   
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Post by: doc evil on July 01, 2020, 10:30:35 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..

Awesome nav.........top motivation skills.

I'm old enough the remember the works ford teams coming here for the Alpine and southern cross rallies in the late 70s and early 80s.
To hear a BDA escort at full song is the stuff dreams are made of.
To see the eskys and dattos on 3 wheels on the bitumen stages outside Albury/Woodonga in the new housing estates.
Then the group G Dazdas..................oh times were good back then.

Anywho, I was a member of Ford Four car club for a number of years in the mid 90's. At the meetings the bitumen boys (circuit racers) would sit on one side on the auditorium and the dirt boys (Rally, autocross etc) on the other...................was a massive divide back then!! ;D
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Post by: Bird on July 01, 2020, 10:56:09 AM
Ahhh that  Raucus bellowing high / low growling through the carbs, of an engine at revs echoing through the forrest, The glint and flash in the distance through the trees, of a wild bucking beast bellowing and trailing a cloud of dust ..
Driving it straight Sideways Yumping the lumps, Holding it on the limits not daring  to snatch that next gear for fear of unloading  it into the scrub ..
190 klicks flat strap through the green trench , eyes as big as plates, Arms legs hands and feet moving in an automatic  blurr, One of the best workouts, even the toughest fittness  instructors would be impressed by  .. You know you are alive .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlAY-3-SoxE)  ..
I like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-voINFkCg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9-voINFkCg)

but how big a balls do you need to be a navi in that first vid... not to look at the road at all... Im a bad passenger just going down to the shops.
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Post by: Paddler Ed on July 01, 2020, 10:57:47 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: doc evil on July 02, 2020, 10:20:15 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.

I think it has more to do with coin and that the sponsors are european Ed.

We have had/have drivers (and navs) who would cut it with the best of the europeans. Cody Crocker and Simon Evans comes to mind 10 odd years ago.
Ross Dunkerton, Geoff Portman, George Fury and Colin Bond of the earlier rear wheel drive era.

Australia was/is just too small to facilitate a international rally team or fund a driver overseas.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on July 02, 2020, 11:17:50 AM
It does surprise me how few (global) rally drivers are from Australia - in the same way that the Finns had the ice to learn their magic, on Aussies have the dirt roads galore to work with.

But in rallys they have corners
Not 200 km long straights  >:D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 03, 2020, 02:42:42 PM
I got this message earlier today.... made me pretty happy..... hope it fits.  ???

It's a brand new 2000hp rated Inland Empire Drive Line Services ally shaft. Best part of 2k to have made and shipped here.

It might be totally the wrong length, but if you can use it, it's yours.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 05, 2020, 03:25:08 AM
Geez..... I hate it when I fukk up.

I've been chasing an old T400 GM trans for 2 weeks to use shortly in the engine/gearbox mock up.
The Caddy runs a T400, but is a one piece unit, I need a separate bellhousing unit.

So, even though I haven't spoken to the guy since the mid 90's, I rang Bob Grant Automatics to see if they had one.
Bob built my manualised C4 in the mighty Datto

Bob and I chatted for ages..... then he told me, they don't make one with a separate bellhousing.  :-[ OOOPPPS
So, got onto Craig Bennett from Torque Power, ordered a near $1,000 bellhousing for a Barra to a T400.

Bob Grant will machine an empty case up to suit. (They've done a few of them now.)
In around a week, i'll have a dummy box ready for a dummy fit, by the dummy building it.
I'm also going to do  a dummy fit, of the Ford 4 speed auto at the same time.
(It won't hold the power, but down the track, when i'm getting really old, if I want to de-tune the old Z and chuck a 4 speeder in it, I can.)

He reckons, the Torque Power housing are a nice bit of kit too.
It uses the standard Ford flexplate and starter motor.

One other I considered, used an aftermarket starter.... great if a starter Shits itself and ya need one quickly.
A starter for a Barra Falcon could be bought in a milk bar.

I made up and welded the modified strut bar locator yesterday for the left side..... looks pretty good.  :cup:
Day off today..... front and back shocks into Astrid's Statesman on Monday and then get started on the right side strut doodad.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 05, 2020, 03:38:28 PM
yah...friggin.....who
Today, i've secured the use of a car rotisserie for as long as I need it.

Well, that's gunna be coming home in a couple of weeks.

Shit, I just love it when a plan comes together.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 07, 2020, 02:47:23 PM
Nice little win today.....

When I first had this thing on the go, the plan to just run it as a footbrake launch.
Keep it a bit doughy over the first part of the track, then plough the sucker home in the second half of the track.

BUT..... As F. S. Shane pointed out, some tracks, the drag challenge thing uses, are 1/8 mile strips.

The thing would be a slug over the 1/8th.

So, to make the little turd perform, we are using a transbraked T400 trans.
With a transbrake, it locks the gearbox in 1st and reverse at the same time.
You take ya foot off the brake and launch the car from a button on the steering wheel.
That means, bringing the revs up to around 5,500 on the rattle box, get some boost happening and then.... lets get the fukk outta Dodge.

In the 1st set up, 3:3 to 3:5 diff gears would be required to try and get it moving.

I can now go slightly higher in the gearing, which will drop the hwy revs just a tad more.
But the big plus, is the little turd should haul arse over the 1/8 mile now.
Who knows, it might even have a little wheel dangling going on during the launch now too.

Because, Shane will be doing the diff soon, I was lying awake last night at midnight thinking, where the fukk an I going to get some 3:25 diff gears.

I figured the donor car would have 3:0 gears at best, maybe even  the Shitty ol 2:78's.
Then I got to thinking, if this ute is rated at a 1 tonne payload...... just maybe.....  ???

Up on stands, cover off and fukkin BINGO...... 3:23 diff gears.... I haven't been this excited since i was a little girl.

I nearly have the second strut mount finished now too..... moving along nicely.
I might spend a few hours in the morning digging out some more of the pool, then hook into the Z car again.

I think I can feel the purchase of a Harrop Engineering truetrac centre coming up next week.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 07, 2020, 07:11:10 PM
Not sure if you have already mentioned it but what ecu are you planning on using?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 08, 2020, 03:23:46 AM
Not sure if you have already mentioned it but what ecu are you planning on using?

Haltech, which is an Aussie made unit, it the weapon of choice.

Easy to program a race tune and road tune plus a million other things.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 09, 2020, 08:00:51 AM
Haltech, which is an Aussie made unit, it the weapon of choice.

Easy to program a race tune and road tune plus a million other things.

Thought it might have been, they would already have plenty of really good basemaps for the Barra too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 11, 2020, 02:59:47 PM
I now have both radius rod mounts made and installed.

You'll see a pic below of one of em partly finished.

So, with both struts in place, I need to make two adaptors, which I can't do until the engine is in, because I need final measurements.
I can't get the measurements, without the engine in....  ???

Threw together a pair of adaptors that should go close.
Once I have final numbers, i'm getting Esk Welding and Fabrication to make 'em. To be sure, to be sure.
Rang Bob Grant Autos to tell them they should have a bell housing on Monday.
Already here, the box is being machined to suit, you'll have it next week.
Rang Hoppers Stoppers, the custom front hubs are made and they were packaging up all my front brake Shit.
That should all be here during next week.
I'm borrowing some rims and tyres tomorrow in readiness to measure the offset I need for the front rims.
I picked up my free rear venetians on Thursday.... told Garney I was happy to pay for them.... wouldn't hear of it.
They're a bit crusty looking, but in good nick...... will look great once they are powder coated.
Did a test fit of a sunvisor  I bought, i'm pretty sure, its come off this car.
All the holes in the A pillar lined up perfect.
And.... the visor has a pretty cool profile line to the roof too.

Trying to get the engine out of the ute, what a turd of a thing these Fords are..... >:(
Got sick of trying to work over the radiator support panel..... problem solved.
Gunna rip a day off tomorrow, so i'll haul the engine on Monday or Tuesday.

Been a big week, little to show for it yet, but moving forward.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 11, 2020, 03:02:21 PM
My handy work..... ;D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 11, 2020, 08:25:06 PM
....what a turd of a thing these Fords are..... >:(

Remind me.....the Maori Mustang was made by ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 03:33:03 AM
Remind me.....the Maori Mustang was made by ???

Maori Mustang is built by Jeepers....  ;D

Nah, talking about this late model Shit Geoff.
Just so flimsy in its build, poorly constructed and for a lot of it, really badly designed from a maintenance and throw away parts aspect.

And before all the Holden owners get sore hands from running around giving each other high fives.
I think what Holden here in Oz builds is just as bad.

I loath the fact, we have a 2001 Statesman.
It does however, make a semi comfortable, air conditioned parts chaser on the odd time I use it as such.


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Post by: GeoffA on July 12, 2020, 07:48:39 AM
Yeah, I knew all that. While I understand the sentiment, the later stuff is so much better to drive it ain't funny.
People can get very gushy when talking about the older stuff (me included), but it really is crap to drive....even GT's & the like.
Was just having a go.... ;D ;D

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 09:27:45 AM
You need to go for a drive in a 64 Cadillac Fleetwood..... pisses on all of 'em  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on July 12, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
Ahh Cadillac. Luxury on wheels, Like sinking  into a  plush lounge chair floating on a solid cloud, listening to the sweet muffled purr of a V8, watching the scenery cruise by at  80 Mph ..  8) 8)
You going to make the top radiator support removable Kev, might make getting the Barra lump in and out a bit easier .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 12, 2020, 11:43:51 AM
No, it stays in place and intact.

I hate it when I see those cut.... lazy way of doing it.... unless its a donor car...  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 13, 2020, 01:01:48 PM
Yabba Dabba Do..... we have a 4lt. Barra engine sitting on the shed floor, right in front of the MK2.

These are a turd of a thing to get out.

Rang Shane this morning on a different thing and mentioned it was a Shit.

He said, I think you undo the K frame and drop 'em down.

Wasn't going that way at that point in time.... would've bought a petrol powered steel saw if I had to.  ;D

Let the fun begin.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 14, 2020, 11:36:52 AM
Picking up an FG Falcon sump tomorrow is Brissie.
These are a reverse hump sump, so the deep bit is at the back.

Then off to grab the bell housing and an empty T400 trans.

I can see an angle grinder doing its thing on the firewall pretty soon.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 18, 2020, 04:20:59 AM
i'm stuffed six ways to Sunday this week.

Stripping out the donor car has been a huge amount of work.
Been mainly getting out FSShane's stuff and of course, the motor and gearbox.
Sick of working with plastic crap.

I'll put the piece of Shit outside over the weekend I think and free up some space.
My box of goodies from Hoppers Stoppers arrived yesterday..... the gear looks the goods too.
Got some sheet steel yesterday to use on the firewall mods.
Off this morning to grab a column to rack steering bit I need.
Might even see what the whole column is like.... might make life a tad easier.

I was going to try and use the donor car column.... but its a bulky friggin thing.

Oh well, either way, its one step closer to a going concern.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on July 18, 2020, 08:37:44 AM
Saw this and thought it might be of interest for you.

https://youtu.be/AE-s7FVKiPE (https://youtu.be/AE-s7FVKiPE)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 22, 2020, 03:14:01 PM
I never realised until this week, how frigging hard its been gutting the ol ute.

I think I hate late model cars even more now, if that's possible.

The gearbox wasn't ready last week, but it is now.
Off to Brissie in the morning, get the box.
Then grab the EB Falcon rear rotors and calipers on the way home.
Then pick up the XF falcon steering column, then to Gatton for some nuts and bolts.

I think Monday, we will start to get serious with this build.
Still just looks like a big pile of crap in the shed though..... :-[
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 23, 2020, 02:53:24 PM
Holy Shit..... didn't know whether to laugh or cry or just take a Shit in my best hat.

I picked up the dummy box today.
Its been milled, drilled, distilled and all that crap and has a custom bell housing ($990 worth) bolted now to the T400.
You have to mill the oil pump and do some crap, its not just a bolt up thing.
So, I dropped another $1,000 to cover the cost of the used box and mods to it so far.

I said to Bob, so my arse doesn't sting too much when I get you to do the "bullet proof unit", how much should I expect.
Oh Kev, around $6,000 should wrap it up, then just get your convertor done to suit.  :'(
This thing will hold a 1,000 horsepower all day, every day.

My bum is beginning to sting a bit already.

In case your wondering, it will be worth every penny though..... Bob Grant builds a wicked box.
I've never raced on anything else.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 25, 2020, 04:20:12 AM
The week in review.....


Now, to be fair, i knew it wouldn't fit..... YET.
 No worse than the 1st trial fit of the 302 in the poor little Datto.
 I'd love a dollar for everytime i was told, it'll never fit, it'll never handle and it'll never hook up on a 215 tyre.

But stuff me mushrooms, these are friggin big 6 cylinder engines.
 The cool thing, is the radiator sits in front of the Rad support panel, so we win some space there.
 The other plus, is i want to get # 1 plug as close to lining up with the towers as i can.
 The less weight in front of the crossmember will work for us much better in the handling department.
 This work better pay dividends in some single digit time slips. LOL

The ol donor car is looking pretty sad now too, the rusty pile of Shit it is.
 I'm not use to having a dead car body lying around the place.
 Time to get the scrappers in pretty soon.
 I anyone wants/needs some 16" Ford wheels, i reckon for $50, you'll get 4 mags, 2 really good tyres, and a steel wheel spare with a near brand new tyre on it.

The new front brakes would've gone on yesterday, except i didn't have a bloody 9/16 unc tap on hand..... good job for later in the week.
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.

The T400 g/box is here now, so the general fit up can begin.
 Its had the bell housing milled off the case, the front modded to suit and assembled as an empty unit.
 A guy walking past Bob Grants took a second look when i carried the whole thing out.
 It was lighter than a box of beer.

The diff will go off to Shane at HPEngines in a few weeks for a short back and sides, but at least its out fromunder the ute now.

Picked up the rear brakes this week, and an XF steering column which looks pretty good for a fit so far.
 I'll be busting my arse to try and get the old Zephyr column covers to fit the XF unit to help make it blend in better.

Every now and then, i do have to look at the ol Datsun pic on the shed wall and think to myself, how much friggin fun the Zephyr will be doing things like Drag Challenge.
 Bring it on i say......
 OH, and the orange thing was at Bob Grants too...... pretty nice ol 2 door VG Valiant. LOL  Yes, it was the real McCoy.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on July 25, 2020, 04:20:56 AM
 8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 25, 2020, 06:38:34 AM
That's nice... :cup: :cup:

I'm a Mopar fan. They dared to be different, and did some interesting stuff.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on July 25, 2020, 06:42:40 AM
...
 The quality of the gear from Hoppers Stoppers seems pretty good.
...

They're almost around the corner from us.
I've used them a couple of times for some small stuff and they've always been very helpful.

...
 The 4 wheels discs should haul the Z car to a stop pretty smartly.
...

Good brakes only slow you down.... :P
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on July 30, 2020, 08:29:27 AM
Yanks building a big Barra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRmnqvT3AM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlRmnqvT3AM) ..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 01, 2020, 04:35:44 PM
A few new pics, including a tail shaft rated to 2,000hp. (Ain't gunna bust that sucker)

Going to kick the rear springs in so they sit under the rails rather than beside them.
Esk Welding and Fab are going to do the firewall mods..... keep the engineer happy that way.

Steering column is roughly zip tied into place ready for an "engine in the hole" fit during the week.

Gunna look pretty shabby with half the firewall missing.

 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 01, 2020, 04:38:16 PM
Sorry if I dribble on a bit.... still not 100% sure about this thread.  ???

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Pete79 on August 01, 2020, 06:53:12 PM
Dribble away mate.;D
I’m following this thread with keen interest (and a fair amount of jealousy).

Personally always wanted to build something loud and fast, but no matter how many times I brought it up, I could never get permission from the finance minister.

So I just have to live vicariously through cool builds like this one.
Might not post much, but reading everything and studying all the photos in detail. ;)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: S.W on August 01, 2020, 09:25:09 PM
Keep it coming Jeepers, I'm really enjoying reading. Can't wait to see the 1/4 mile time!
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2020, 03:29:34 AM
OK, thanks guys.

I guess the hard bit Is, sometimes during these sorts of builds, is a small improvement or fix, makes ya feel like the King of Turd Island
I worry that others will look on and think, the fukkin dickhead gets excited over the smallest thing.... well, that does happen too.  >:D

Pete, remember with the pics, this all comes apart for final welding, finishing etc prior to paint..... she's mock up only at this point.

S.W.   When I see that first 9 second time slip, then it will all feel worthwhile huh.

I had thought about just doing a simple ol HQ one tonner with a nitrous LS in it for an easy 10 second runner.
Would have been a third of the price to build.....
Only half a car to paint, trim and Shit like that but no real cool factor and one tonners have been done to death.

The ol Pensioner Performance Rockabilly Cruiser Bruiser should have the "WOW... That'd friggin cool" factor in spades. (I hope)

I know why she came off the road in 1970 now too.
The diff centre is busted.
They take a few teeth off the planetary gears if you give them a hard time.
They will still drive, but sound like marbles in a tin bucket rattling around.
This thing lived on a dirt road in western NSW, so i'm guessing the corrugations took the diff out.
She was parked up, and left to sit until some ol fart by the name of Jeepers came along.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on August 02, 2020, 07:18:44 AM
Keep up with the posts.  I'm not overly interested in the performance side, just following to see how you are making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on August 02, 2020, 08:38:23 AM
.......making a square peg fit in a round hole, using a triangle adaptor...

FBH.... ;D

 :cheers:

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 02, 2020, 04:40:57 PM
Ya gotta be happy, when ya welding and fab. guy calls around at 3 on a sunday arvo.

It seems, i'm not cutting the firewall now with an angle grinder.....   ;D

He is.... with a whizz bang plasma cutter next weekend.

He sees no probs with the plans..... thinks the spring relocation will be easy.

So, after spending most of the day cruising the wheels off the Cadillac, this has been a nice finish to the weekend.  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on August 02, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
Would have been a third of the price to build.....

so do you have a budget?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 04:24:11 AM
so do you have a budget?

NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

The tonner could've been built for around 10 grand I reckon.
This one, well, who the hell knows, but being what it is and being a high end/ish build, oh man, my butt just started stinging again.

See, with the tonner, all I would do is move the rear axle forward 12 inches, make the engine and g/box mounts, then powder coat the chassis.
Already has disc brakes etc, so assemble the driveline, a 31 spline 9 inch and the mechanics are nearly there.

Paint and panel the cabin, a cage, 2 buckets trimmed and some carpet..... you see whit I mean.
I was thinking of gutting the ol girls statesman for the donor car too.

She didn't know that, but she's not dumb, one morning when it appeared to have a flat battery, she would've worked it out.

I sometimes forget to tell her stuff, a little bit like the time I sold her MGA for $27,500 back in 2001 or so.
I'd bought it for her for her birthday the year before, can't remember why I wanted the money now.... not sure she's 100% over that yet.  ???

But yeah, the tonner would've been an easy build, maybe a 6 or 8 month turn around... tops.

The mighty Zeph, while I want it finished ASAP, it will most likely go over my 12 month hopes and dreams.

As I've mentioned before, the hard part, is now.
Lots of Shit to plan.... there is stuff that won't be fitted to the car until its near complete, but it has to be made, modified or other, in the planning.
Its gunna look like a messy pile of parts and Shit for a while yet..... but fukkin look out when we start the final fit ups in the home stretch.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on August 03, 2020, 12:05:47 PM
NUP...... it will cost, what it will cost.

That's the attitude, one of those things that if you sat down to cost it at the beginning it might never happen ;D

Sooooo, given you will probably be able to get a street tune on the haltech and therefore probably make it more economical to run than the Caddy, is this a possible replacement or are you envisaging this one as a sibling for Migaloo.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 12:47:59 PM
No, the Cadillac goes nowhere but in my shed and stays there till I cark it.
The Z car will be a stable mate for it.

The modern tech available with Haltech is pretty friggin cool.
We can have a lazy tune for around town, that will be around the 3 or 400 mark.
Then, come race day, we open the taps and let it eat.  ;D

The jury is still out, whether we run pump98 for racing as well or tip some E85 in for race days.

The practical side of me, which doesn't come to the surface very often, says it will run pump98 full time.

I ordered a pair of 15 x 5" front wheels the morning. (Don't really need 'em for ages...sort of)
I do however, need to know, they will clear the calipers ok, before shortening the diff to suit the rears. (Chrome smoothies)

No good doing the diff, to then find the fronts foul.
Then trying buy wheels to suit the diff rather than the diff built to suit the wheels.

All part of the crap running through my fool head.

After removing the intake set up this morning, I had another go at slipping the engine in the hole.
Plenty of love lube, couple of tyre levers and it was still a no go, but closer.
Once we plasma cut the firewall, it'll slip in like a dick in a shirt sleeve.

The engine is longer than the engine bay by about 2 inches....... bugger.



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 01:08:39 PM

THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line.
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof.
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps.

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet.
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs.

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff.
Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700 hp at the wheels.
 

THIS IS WHAT HAS CHANGED..... from Day 1   ... ha ha ha. set in cement my arse.

1/ Its a 59 Zephyr for starts. ::)
2/ Spats are gone, not a friggin hope of clearing the tyres. ::)
3/ The Dodge Lancer trims, now chrome smoothies.  ::)
4/ The 4 speed over drive auto, now a manualised and transbraked 3 speed GM gearbox.  ::)
5/ I was going to use the donor car wiring harness.....  ::)

Might just go now.....  :-X



Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 04:58:43 PM
Pic 1. The 2 inch timber is to hold it in position, which shows the portion underneath that has to be trimmed.

Pic 2. Friggin big lump of a thing..... i'm still having trouble getting my head around the HP these things make.

Pic 3. Once we remove the timber from behind, the engine will slide back enough to clear the radiator support panel. Keep in mind, the radiator sits in front of this panel. Could've cut it out for an easier fit, but that's just being rough and lazy.

Pic 4. Had the Caddy out yesterday and bumped into Cadillac Jack in my travels.

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Post by: GeoffA on August 03, 2020, 05:02:07 PM
Can't drop the front end out and bring it in from underneath?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 03, 2020, 05:03:58 PM
Nah, not really.

The engine needs to be able to come and go through the top.... and it will.  ;D
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Post by: GeoffA on August 03, 2020, 05:20:58 PM
After you've reshaped the firewall, it will just be a matter of what angle it gets rotated to, and how much height you have/need.

Gunna be fun..... ;D
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Post by: GGV8Cruza on August 03, 2020, 08:06:17 PM
Sorry if I dribble on a bit.... still not 100% sure about this thread.  ???

Mods approve, keep them coming  :cup:

GG
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Post by: 2Strokeit on August 03, 2020, 09:56:51 PM
Your changing the firewall, tunnel, steering, springs and brakes but ya keeping the top of the radiator support 'original' even when it makes life difficult sooo.... you can lean on it self righteously when you pop the bonnet?
I get that you know and trust the th400 but could you have added a few more gears it's 2020.
The wifes merc has an 8 speed and the box handles up to 6-700 hp before  upgraded clutches and solenoid work and it seems smaller than I remember  my old tonner box same with the diffs.


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2020, 04:21:36 AM
The radiator support panel is a load bearing portion (not by massive amounts however) and as we are cutting the firewall, it stays in as a brace to help keep the car square.
It doesn't really cause an issue, even with it missing, the firewall still has to be trimmed anyway, so there is no advantage to cutting it.
If you look at Pic 1, I have a block of timber behind the engine.
If the firewall was cut away yesterday, the engine would have gone straight down and into position.
These things are always, a steady as you go situation.
I only want to cut away, what is needed, not just cut out bits to make something ever so slightly easier.

Geez, I need an 8 speed auto like Custer needed more Indians.
The 4 speed Ford box was a consideration and the 6 speed Ford box is stronger, depending on who you talk to.... however.

I need gearing to suit n 1/8 mile strip as well as a 1/4 strip and still be able to cruise the highway.
To use an 8 speed box, i'm making 7 gear changes in 9.5 seconds with the diff gearing done to suit. That's getting pretty busy.

We are also using a transbrake set up, which can be done  easy on a T400 trans.
A 2 speed powerglide would work well too, but the gearing isn't there for 1/8 mile tracks.
Not too sure, a Merc 8 speed would handle that sort of abuse.
We will hold around 3,500rpm while the transbrake will lock up 1st and reverse together.
At this point, I have my foot off the brakes, the gearbox is holding an engine that is now making boost.
On the drop of a button, all hell is unleashed on the driveline.

If I was just tootling around town or down the highway..... for sure... an overdrive everyday.
I have the option if I want to, to fit a Gear Venders overdrive, as they can hold up 3,000HP, but aren't cheap.   :'(

Keep in mind, this car is being built to compete in a Drag Challenge event.
You race Day 1, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 2, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 3, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 4, hand in a time slip and get you route map to the next track, often around 350klm.
You race Day 5, which is back at the 1st day race track again.

Depending on where its held, you also have the klm to get there and get home.
The gearbox cops a hiding in these cars, I really want to attack this with a boxing glove, not a mitten.

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Post by: noel_w on August 04, 2020, 08:46:15 AM

hey Jeepers
Here is a bunch of yanks that are putting a Barra in a GT350. Talking about 1200HP
Ya might get some ideas from them about how to 1200HP a Zeph  :laugh: :laugh:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 04, 2020, 10:39:59 AM
hey Jeepers
Here is a bunch of yanks that are putting a Barra in a GT350. Talking about 1200HP
Ya might get some ideas from them about how to 1200HP a Zeph  :laugh: :laugh:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_WfKtpsbLI)

Nah....  gotta change more Shit to go that high in the HP stakes.
Keep in sensible, 700.... maybe 800 tops will do me. :angel:
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Post by: bmwfreak on August 04, 2020, 11:04:59 AM
I can’t imagine a chassis that has had a fire ‘near’ it being structurally robust enough for just returning to stock, let alone the sort of power these guys are talking about  ??? ???
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Post by: edz on August 06, 2020, 12:45:40 PM
Z car stealth transporter
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 06, 2020, 03:00:16 PM
Being built to be driven.... no trailer sailors in this household.  8)

Cool set up Edz, but not for this little black duck..... yes, Black Ducks Do Matter.
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Post by: gronk on August 06, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
Being built to be driven.... no trailer sailors in this household.  8)


You mention 5 different tracks for the challenge...have you got that many in Qld and are you confident the thing will make 5 tracks ( mechanically )... ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 06, 2020, 04:52:22 PM
You mention 5 different tracks for the challenge...have you got that many in Qld and are you confident the thing will make 5 tracks ( mechanically )... ;D

Willowbank, Warwick, Roma, Bernaraby and back to Wally bank.

There is also mackay and Spring Mount, even Stanthorpe has a little 1/8 mile.

And yes, the car will piss it in. With Footy Shorts Shane and myself twirling the spanners, if we won, we'd do a victory lap.  ;D
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Post by: jclures on August 06, 2020, 08:45:10 PM
You would have to be worried a bit it being a Ford. >:D >:D ;D
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Post by: tryagain on August 06, 2020, 11:09:14 PM
You would have to be worried a bit it being a Ford. >:D >:D ;D

Not defending Ford, but the Barra which is what is being used was/is tough as nails, Penty of reports of them doing over 1,000,000km in Taxi's back in the day, wouldn't expect anything like that with the boost jeepers is going to shove up its clapper, but still plenty of high power boosted barras being quite reliable. With the Haltech, he can easily switch tunes to make it very road drivable as well.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 04:28:54 AM
The plan is for only 20 or 22lbs of boost when racing.... 26 tops. (race motor)

The plan is for only 8 or 10 lbs on the street.  :angel: (street motor)

The ones making the huge HP figures, are getting up to 50psi up  their blurters, even these ones still street drive ok.
Hmmm... Haltech.... that's the go.

Back on the Z car today, spent yesterday working on the pool. (still digging Shit out of it)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 01:45:12 PM
OH PISSER......

With the Skyline front end, we gain a bit in the front track.
To keep the engineers happy, and stay in spec, I ordered some 3 inch back spaced wheels.

The guy had 2.75 or 3's, 3's were good.

Then he rang me, I have a pair of 3.25 inch back space.

Hmm, yep, should just sneak it in and work a tad more in my favour...... pisser, just fouls by the tiniest amount on the friggin caliper.

So, box 'em up, send 'em back and get the 3' inch backspace ones I ordered in the first place.
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Post by: Bird on August 07, 2020, 03:03:44 PM
OH PISSER......

With the Skyline front end, we gain a bit in the front track.
To keep the engineers happy, and stay in spec, I ordered some 3 inch back spaced wheels.

The guy had 2.75 or 3's, 3's were good.

Then he rang me, I have a pair of 3.25 inch back space.

Hmm, yep, should just sneak it in and work a tad more in my favour...... pisser, just fouls by the tiniest amount on the friggin caliper.

So, box 'em up, send 'em back and get the 3' inch backspace ones I ordered in the first place.
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/81/83/1b81834a3e8d69644414ce7fa91fa106.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 07, 2020, 03:30:15 PM
The shop is just over the border at Tweed Heads too.....  ;D

Gunna drive the fukkers down on Wednesday and he'll meet me in Coolangatta and switch 'em.(he's got a pass for his work)

Its not like I need for rego this afternoon or anything urgent..... I hate it when I change a plan that was right to friggin begin with.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2020, 01:14:59 PM
Right.... nurse, scalpel... rib spreader..... c'mon you ol turd... it'll be worth it.

Right, now get in that fukkin hole you big turd of a thing.

Centreline is good, No 1 plug lined up with the towers.....  ;D

Its all sitting on stands at present, as I need to raise the car to level, then get the angle of the dangle correct.
Then, its make some engine mounts time.
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Post by: nab on August 09, 2020, 05:05:26 PM
How do you change spark plugs, compression test etc on number 6? Access hold in the cabin or get the missus to do it with her small hand??  :cheers:
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Post by: GeoffA on August 09, 2020, 05:08:12 PM
Enough room left in the footwells? Looks like they'll be tight.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 09, 2020, 05:31:21 PM
Plenty of room for the plug change. There is more room than the photo shows.

Compression gauge is a screw in unit on a flexible line.

The foot wells aren't too bad. Again, the pics don't show it as good as it could.
More foot room then my V8 Datsun 1200 had and it was pretty comfy to drive.

Because we are using head studs and not head bolts, the head won't come off in the car.
Funny enough, 30 years ago, the V8 1200 used studs as well and they didn't come off in the car either.

Not sure who it was, but someone mentioned fitting the engine from below.
When I do the final fit up after paint, it may just get fitted from beneath to ensure we don't chip the fresh paint..... time will tell.
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Post by: Pete79 on August 09, 2020, 07:17:09 PM
Is there science behind the #1 pot sitting inline with the strut towers?

I would have thought with that much hp a little more weight in front of the wheels could be a good thing?
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Post by: edz on August 09, 2020, 10:58:14 PM
Weight transfer on  launch tunabillity is a factor Kev would be looking for might have to add / minus a little weight ..
 Getting the rear to hook up nicely with the buggy springs and have a good weight transfer / lift / traction  on launch etc is where the art of it all comes into play .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 03:48:19 AM
Is there science behind the #1 pot sitting inline with the strut towers?

I would have thought with that much hp a little more weight in front of the wheels could be a good thing?

Apart from what Edz has mentioned above, for a car to corner and brake, the weight needs to be back a tad.

Remember back to the early 6 cyl Cortina's and Centura's... under brakes, they would try to plow the front bumper into the dirt.
Now picture, turning a corner with a heap of weight, in front of the turning axis.
It will have the weight past the axis.... little bit like a big heavy box on the tail of a caravan, but around the other way.
Then place that weight, as much as is possible and functional, above or behind that axis.

I would expect, if this thing was decked out with some good Yokahama road/race tyres, it could carve up a corner pretty decent..... for a 61 year old car.

And yes Edz, I think you will see the ol Z car pick the wheels, I would hazard a guess, maybe a foot in the air, then carry 'em for 10 or 12 feet.
Just a nice gentle set down under power...... would look pretty cool I think.

But not like this, this pic was mid wheelstand..... went heaps higher than this.
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Post by: edz on August 10, 2020, 07:58:03 AM
Look at the left rear tire distortion without the weight on it, tall and flabby big time ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 08:01:33 AM
Look at the left rear tire distortion without the weight on it, tall and flabby big time ..

Just after the shot was taken, the left rear got lift off.
It became a unicycle and headed for the left lane, which got my attention pretty quickly.

Frightened the fukk outta the guy in that lane too.....  ;D
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Post by: Bigfish on August 10, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
We all know you sell a few cars Jeepers but this bloke is a saint amongst sinners.  If only all used car dealers were like him....

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/every-single-car-in-stock-was-previously-owned-by-little-old-ladies-confirms-used-car-dealer/ (https://www.betootaadvocate.com/breaking-news/every-single-car-in-stock-was-previously-owned-by-little-old-ladies-confirms-used-car-dealer/)


Maybe you could come up with some catchy names for the models you sell...just like this chap..lol
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 10, 2020, 11:09:02 AM
We do name all the cars we sell.  :D

Haven't come up with a definite name for Z car yet, but Zac is on the cards.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 09:32:55 AM
Got some tyres fitted to rims yesterday for the front.

Bolted the left front up and eyeballed it against the body line.
There is no friggin way, this side of the next ice age, these friggin wheels are gunna go under the front guard.
To the point, I've already spoken to a guy about doing a pump on the front guards. ??? :-[ Really don't wanna do that.

1st thing today, set the camber to neutral..... grabbed the left front guard and bolted the bastard on.
Gotta say, my heart really isn't in it today.

Small glimmer of hope, looking at the guard side on, it was kind of maybe doable.
Walked out the front..... fukkin bingo..... sits under the guard pretty damn good.

Morning tea now, then do the right side..... which SHOULD be fine, based on the left one.

After spending $2,000 on brakes and suspension, $250 on rims, $220 on tyres, a lot hinged on this today.
Ya can't really do one without the other, measuring and Shit is fine, but its the final fit that either spells doom or gloom.

Strike 1 for my side.  :cup:
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Post by: edz on August 15, 2020, 12:02:18 PM
Drop it on the ground,  load it up with Motor and gearbox weight then roll it forwards and back a car length to set the struts . That would  give you a better idea of how its going for clearances then do a lock to lock with the steering . [ Yeah yeah I know .. Im telling ya how to suck eggs ]    ;D.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 02:01:41 PM
Lots more weight to go in yet Edz, and anyway, the strut adaptors will be a final thing I think, right before the engine bay paint goes on.
Loaded the radiator back in for the second time now and the first time for a grille to be fitted.
I had 4 to choose from, so grabbed the first one and it looks kind of neat in there.

All done to check for space.

Pretty good room in there for a decent intercooler and A/C condenser. WINNER.

Auto cooler is going under the floor with a separate lecky fan running on it.

If I didn't know better... and I do... you'd nearly swear this idea had crossed their minds back in 1959.
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Post by: #jonesy on August 15, 2020, 03:16:34 PM
Time for a few more pics. 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 03:47:08 PM
Time for a few more pics.

Ask.... and you shall receive.  :D

Pic 1.... the second pair of wheels with the 3inch backspace after I second guessed myself.  :-[

Pic 2.... I was starting to Shit myself now, as I began to wonder if i'd really fukked up.

Pic 3.... It still looks way too wide even here, but there is no weight on it either.

Pic 4.... Feeling pretty good now, not Shitting myself at all..... just the odd fart, as I had the drivers side still to do.

Pic 5.... Decided by now, i'm not as silly as I look..... thank fukk for that.  ;D

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 15, 2020, 03:53:40 PM
I'm waiting on some Tuff Mounts out of South Aust., so decided to do some mock up and checking.
I can't do much more with locating the engine spot on until the mounts get here.

Just some random pics.... you'll get the idea.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 16, 2020, 03:46:03 PM
Pissing around with the engine location today in readiness for the mounts that are on their way.

Everything up top, spot on... firewall to rad support panel, crank bolt to frame rails... the works.
Straight edges every which way but loose.

The car is square to the floor and has been triple checked with spirit levels.
The engine is now square with spirit levels and has been triple checked.

Hop underneath, and everything seems out of whack.

Relocate everything underneath and I mean everything.... all square and good to go.

Get up top, it's all over the place like a mad woman's Shit.  ???

The car is square..... the engine is square.... the concrete shed floor is square......  ???

Now, it wasn't a terribly bright light bulb that lit up..... a bit sickly really.
In a very Wile E Coyote sort of moment, a light bulb did come on however...... I wonder if the engines are centered in these old turds.

OH GOODY, the trans/tailshaft tunnel is offset to the passenger side by 27mm.

Redo the set-up.... looks MUCH better. :cup: Underneath and up top....  :cheers:

Going to grab a laser level thingy tomorrow, as I want this millimeter perfect.
I want to sight the centre of the tunnel to the centre of the crank, to the centre of the diff.

Being 27 mm to the left side, won't do any harm to the car either.
They always hoist the left side the highest, so it will work in my favour, ever so slightly.

Hmmm, time for a Shit shower and shave.
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Post by: #jonesy on August 16, 2020, 06:07:12 PM
Hmmm, time for a Shit shower and shave.

Hmmm, time for a Shit, shower and shave.

Funny how a comma makes a difference, (unless it wasn't a good shower)

Good to see it is all coming together..
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Post by: Spada on August 17, 2020, 06:54:00 AM

Going to grab a laser level thingy tomorrow, as I want this millimeter perfect.


Make the NOISE  ;) (in my best binky voice)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 08:45:57 AM
Make the NOISE  ;) (in my best binky voice)

Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me..... Maybe I will get it later today, it's happened before.

Oh well, off to Gatton in the Fleetwood to find a laser level thingy.... a cheap one.
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Post by: GGV8Cruza on August 17, 2020, 08:50:24 AM
Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me..... Maybe I will get it later today, it's happened before.

Oh well, off to Gatton in the Fleetwood to find a laser level thingy.... a cheap one.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JzHhn2WtwYU

GG

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Post by: plusnq on August 17, 2020, 08:52:17 AM
Geez. That sound is a long way back in the memory bank.  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: GeoffA on August 17, 2020, 08:55:58 AM
Sorry mate, that post is lost on me.....

...a bit like saying "click" when you use a wheel brace on your wheel nuts...
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Post by: bmwfreak on August 17, 2020, 09:44:58 AM
Ha ha ha.... 1. Who's binky and what noise do I make?

This is episode 1. They are up to episode 34 at the moment. I find it an excellent project to watch, both from the technical aspect, and the production.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq
Edit: How did I forget the url ??? ???
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGSOZAHg1yQHU1tc_3Y5MTQg1qjtxA_nq)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 11:24:14 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 17, 2020, 03:00:02 PM
oh man, my new $44 laser do-hicky is making life better.
Tuff mounts arrived today.

Time to build a new cross member for the engine mounts me thinks.
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Post by: S.W on August 17, 2020, 08:16:41 PM
Keep up the good work Kev. It's looking good.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 18, 2020, 03:02:02 PM
Keep up the good work Kev. It's looking good.

Its looking better today.

Gearbox tunnel is gonski..... and the gearbox is in place and bolted up, well, what there is of it.
Its just a case and some bits, makes it easier to swing around and Shit.

The new engine mounts are on the motor ready for some cross member fabrication to take place.
The gearbox mount and mounting plate is on and also ready for a some X member fabrication.

Was a big day.... lots and lots of pissing around, but I have to say.... i'm liking my new Tuff Mounts.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 03:59:54 PM
Somewhere on here, someone asked about room in the foot wells of the car and some mention of how far back #6 plug was.
I've got some pics now that show some of these aspects a tad better.

As I said in an earlier post, the box is in position.
The floors do need a final trim, but you'll get the idea.

Anyway..... enjoy.

Pic 1. The laser dot tells me I have the driveline straight.

Pic 2. The engine is level.

Pic 3. Rough chop out of the floor. I used to racket straps to lift it high enough to bung a jack under it.

Pic 4. Its in..... yahoo. A final trim along the tape line will make for a nice edge to weld to.

Pic 5. Just a different angle.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 04:03:05 PM
and some more....  8)
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Post by: edz on August 19, 2020, 04:24:07 PM
 ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 19, 2020, 04:44:07 PM
ha ha ha ha .... You dufus.    :cheers:
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Post by: edz on August 19, 2020, 04:59:22 PM
Oh by the way, the lump of iron up front fits   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeRgxyBH1Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoeRgxyBH1Q)   ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 23, 2020, 05:02:39 PM
Not too much I can show you or tell you this week-end.

Lots of planning stages for the mounts being done at the moment.

But have a look at the following clip, this was day 5 of Drag Challenge 2017.
For me, this is the test of a true street car.... 5 days, 5 tracks.....  :cheers:
Check out the bump steer on the XR Fairmont.....  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3ggsw734k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK3ggsw734k)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 24, 2020, 12:50:08 PM
HOLY FRIGGIN CRAP......  ???

Trying to mount this Barra is a friggin turd huh.

I'm about 8 hours in and I have the left side done, ready for final welding and gussets.
It had to be done in two sections that assemble in the car as you go.

Not sure who the fukkwit was that suggested a Barra in a MK2 Zephyr, but he needs rooting..... it could've been me too.

The gearbox will be piss easy to do......

Tomorrow however, i'll start on the R/H side, which needs a bit of special attention to clear the steering shaft from the Rack and Pinion.

When its done, it will be terrific and I have no issues with a failure or anything.
But stuff me sideways...... getting it sturdy enough not to fail, it looks like its been built by a mental patient.

We are mounted off the left frame rail and the front X member.
The side bits and the engine form their own second X member.

Not sure if any pics of these plates will make the internet...... pretty fugly.
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Post by: edz on August 24, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
Couldnd be worse than some oxy cut 2mm bent plate and a couple of Hi tensile bolts, Cocky Shit welded together engine mounts,  that a mate used to fit a 202 into a Landrover .. Will say they never broke.
  Which surprised the hell out of me, given the absolut pizzling that landy copped on road and off .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 24, 2020, 02:48:43 PM
The hard part for us, is we we'll bring the revs up on the rattle box against the trans brake.

At the drop of a button, we unleash more hp than a MK2 Zephyr should ever have wedged up its blurter.

I need it to remain a straight six, and not a slant six..... but hey, with me, anything's possible i'm afraid.

Drag racing, testing drivelines since 1902 or thereabouts.
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Post by: noel_w on August 27, 2020, 09:33:00 AM

Drag racing, testing drivelines since 1902 or thereabouts.
Gees Jeepers, didn't know you were that old  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 27, 2020, 03:38:25 PM
Feeling pretty happy.....

Both front mounts are made and the engine is sitting there all nice and happy.

The bubble in the spirit level has stayed inside the little square.... yeeeeehaaaaa.  :cup:

Now, i can start on the gearbox member tomorrow.

Then pull it all out again and weld it all up properly.

This has been a real head fukk getting everything in place.
BUT,

1. We've used a standard rear hump sump with no mods.
2. We've cleared the main X member.
3. We can still access the power steering hoses.
4. The engine hasn't fell on the floor and its been sitting there on its own now for 47 minutes.
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Post by: Bird on August 27, 2020, 03:42:03 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 27, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van

Maybe not a chrome tow bar, but it is getting one. (Will double as a parachute pick up point)
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Post by: Pottsy on August 27, 2020, 04:14:17 PM
Maybe not a chrome tow bar, but it is getting one. (Will double as a parachute pick up point)

I thought you were drag racing not skydiving! ;D
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Post by: doc evil on August 28, 2020, 02:35:01 PM
what about the chrome towbar? Gotta have something to tow a van

 ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 30, 2020, 02:47:50 PM
Oh man, i finally completed the x member to stop my big arse tranny dragging its bum on the ground.  ;D LOL

Everything can go to the welding and fab guy on Tuesday afternoon.

I tell ya, some of my welds, well, two of 'em..... are mint. The slag curled up and fell off on its own.  :cup:
Then, there is the rest..... looks like a flock of pigeons have crapped all over 'em.  :-[ 

At least now, the barra and TH400 box are happily sitting in position.

Did my head in a bit getting the ideas to work..... but work they will.  :cheers:

 
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Post by: Foo on August 30, 2020, 07:56:40 PM
Curious, what fuel is going into it, to run at the drags? Normal or can you drop some avgas into it?  ???

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 31, 2020, 03:53:58 AM
Curious, what fuel is going into it, to run at the drags? Normal or can you drop some avgas into it?  ???

Foo

We'll use pump 98 on the road and most likely, tune it for pump 98 at the track.

It may be set up for E85 at the track, which was my original plan, but no longer set in cement.

Footy Shorts Shane will lead the way in this department however.
He's very experienced in getting this Shit to work.

The Haltech computer we run, can and will, make adjustments on the fly to keep it all alive.

I know of an instance, where the E85 was rubbish.
The Haltech system pulled timing out to the point, it ran a good 1/2 a second slower, but no damage to the engine.

Woohoo, having a day off from working on the car today after a pretty mental and physical few weeks.

I might dig some more of the pool out.
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Post by: tryagain on August 31, 2020, 09:24:52 AM
This is probably worth a watch for those who are curious about the Barra, especially in a sleeper drag car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on August 31, 2020, 09:45:00 AM
This is probably worth a watch for those who are curious about the Barra, especially in a sleeper drag car.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPq004ZwVk)

A few months back, the Cresta went 8:16.....   :cup:

On Saturday night at wallybank, a commodore wagon, that had already run 8:20's and drove from Bris to Mel and completed drag challenge and drove home again, did some testing.

Ran  a 7:54 @ 184 mph.... goes ok huh.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 05:48:20 AM
Bit of an update on where we are at the moment.

The mounts and cross member are at the welders place. (hoping, I might get them back today)
With the car on stands, and the engine and box on stands, there's not too much I can do at the moment.

The trans shield is here, and I need to trim the floor a tad more for some clearance.
I also need to order the deep pan for auto, (about $300 worth) so I can fab the straps that pass under the trans.

The steering connectors I require from a Nissan rack to a XF Falcon column looked to pose a bit of a problem.
A mate has put me onto a hot rod mob down the coast, so, a couple of hundred bucks later, we should be able to achieve what I want pretty easy.... I hope.
Most likely go down there Wednesday and see what we can achieve.

The other  issue, has been finding a 7 inch booster and 1 inch Master cylinder to work the brakes.
The same hot rod mob has several to choose from, so feeling pretty good about that too now.
$250 gets me a chrome double diaphragm booster and polished master cylinder.....flash as.
I'll probably buy that at the same time.

The diff is next on the list now for some love.

The wheels for the back, i'm just not happy with finish wise, so this week, i'll order 2 brand new chrome rims for it.
I'll see if I can grab these from down the coast on the same day...... gunna be some butt hurt coming up.

That means getting a brand new pair of Mickey Thompson drag radials as well.
No point putting an old pair of "set up" tyres on new rims.

Shane and I can then measure the ol turd up, and away we go..... you would think.

As soon as the mounts are back, i need to turn the car around for maximum light and space, to piss about with the diff.
The welding and fab guy will measure up everything for the new spring hangers for springs to go inwards 2 inches each side.
Once I have the springs sorted, then, I can just hang the old diff back in for a trailer trip to Shane on the sunny coast.

Parts required before I go to Shane's....  :'(
1 x pair of Gazzard Brothers caltracs.
1 x 31 spline trutrac centre.
1 x Speedy diffs alloy brace for the diff. (stops the carrier caps from splaying out)
2 x new rear chrome, 15 x 7 rims.
2 x 235/60 x 15 drag radials.
1 x 1350 pinion for the diff. (in a pinch, I can go a 1350/1310 uni joint, but sweating that someone does a 1350/1350 BW pinion.)

At least when we turn the car around, for a brief moment, it might look like a car again..... sort of.

Watch this space......  ;D

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Post by: Coolblue80 on September 06, 2020, 06:04:16 AM
Bit of an update on where we are at the moment.

The mounts and cross member are at the welders place. (hoping, I might get them back today)
With the car on stands, and the engine and box on stands, there's not too much I can do at the moment.

The trans shield is here, and I need to trim the floor a tad more for some clearance.
I also need to order the deep pan for auto, (about $300 worth) so I can fab the straps that pass under the trans.

The steering connectors I require from a Nissan rack to a XF Falcon column looked to pose a bit of a problem.
A mate has put me onto a hot rod mob down the coast, so, a couple of hundred bucks later, we should be able to achieve what I want pretty easy.... I hope.
Most likely go down there Wednesday and see what we can achieve.

The other  issue, has been finding a 7 inch booster and 1 inch Master cylinder to work the brakes.
The same hot rod mob has several to choose from, so feeling pretty good about that too now.
$250 gets me a chrome double diaphragm booster and polished master cylinder.....flash as.
I'll probably buy that at the same time.

The diff is next on the list now for some love.

The wheels for the back, i'm just not happy with finish wise, so this week, i'll order 2 brand new chrome rims for it.
I'll see if I can grab these from down the coast on the same day...... gunna be some butt hurt coming up.

That means getting a brand new pair of Mickey Thompson drag radials as well.
No point putting an old pair of "set up" tyres on new rims.

Shane and I can then measure the ol turd up, and away we go..... you would think.

As soon as the mounts are back, i need to turn the car around for maximum light and space, to piss about with the diff.
The welding and fab guy will measure up everything for the new spring hangers for springs to go inwards 2 inches each side.
Once I have the springs sorted, then, I can just hang the old diff back in for a trailer trip to Shane on the sunny coast.

Parts required before I go to Shane's....  :'(
1 x pair of Gazzard Brothers caltracs.
1 x 31 spline trutrac centre.
1 x Speedy diffs alloy brace for the diff. (stops the carrier caps from splaying out)
2 x new rear chrome, 15 x 7 rims.
2 x 235/60 x 15 drag radials.
1 x 1350 pinion for the diff. (in a pinch, I can go a 1350/1310 uni joint, but sweating that someone does a 1350/1350 BW pinion.)

At least when we turn the car around, for a brief moment, it might look like a car again..... sort of.

Watch this space......  ;D

Not sure on the sizing but old mate from The Skid Factory on Youtube is always recommending one of the Subaru boosters for tight spots.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 06:58:23 AM
Yeah, i was aware of the Scooby do boosters. (thanks for posting that info too)

The hard part is, all boosters and M/C's are so friggin ugly.
This thing won't be a show car, but I still want it to look the goods if I ever choose to bung it in a cars n coffee day.

I even considered, putting the booster inside the firewall and the M/C  in the engine bay.
Then, everyone thinks it has no booster, and i'm too old and cranky these days to bother explaining to some numpty where it is.
Plus, ease of access isn't great then either..
The good part of the chrome/polished hot rod one, is they are about as good as you get, as far as being easy on the eye.

 
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Post by: edz on September 06, 2020, 11:00:49 AM
Could always do what I did on the Escort V6 ..Mount a Nissan C20 Vanette booster / master cyl  pedal assembly  up under the dash, with the fill resiviour in the engine bay ..
On the 4wd Escort I used a Mitsubishi L-300 booster / master / pedal assembly up under the dash ..All work fine and tucks neatly up out of sight  .. From memory the L-300 master cyl is 1" bore .

Edit :
And NO I did not read what you said above, Till just now  ;D ;D
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Post by: #jonesy on September 06, 2020, 12:56:00 PM
I even considered, putting the booster inside the firewall and the M/C  in the engine bay.
Then, everyone thinks it has no booster, and i'm too old and cranky these days to bother explaining to some numpty where it is.
Politely explain that 4 wheel drums don't use boosters...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 06, 2020, 12:59:10 PM
Some do, some don't.

The Fleetwood is power boosted drum brakes..

With disc brakes, very few wouldn't be power boosted.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 09, 2020, 01:02:48 PM

The Z car is at last, sitting on its own suspension, well, the new R31 Skyline suspension that is.
 Its still sitting pretty tall in the front, but we are still minus a heap of parts/weight yet too.

I haven't been able to move the bloody car, as i had it sitting dead square for the engine and box alignment and Shit.

The mounts and cross member are done now, so it was time to spin the ol girl around and start getting ready to move the rear springs inboard.

The old diff will be coming out tomorrow......  :D
 We'll get a start on the steering column to rack in a day or two as well.

The floor needs to be trimmed a bit more to get an explosion proof shield in there.... ANDRA/IHRA make ya do it.
 I'm quite confident, my Bob Grant built Turbo 400 trans will be just fine. (I've never drag raced on anything else)

Christ, i'm slow getting this done..... Shits much harder at 60 than it was at age 30.  :-[
 You can sort of see where its headed though.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 09, 2020, 01:04:15 PM
and a couple more.

I have a heap of brand new Shit coming for it, but the Covid thing may impact getting some of the diff parts.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: chester ver2.0 on September 09, 2020, 01:39:52 PM
Well since you have a skyline front end why don't you stick a RB26 in it and really turn some heads when you take off from the lights
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on September 10, 2020, 04:32:30 AM
Because the Barra will kill an RB26
I've seen some stuff on a guy in Oz that put a Barra in an R32
No replacement for displacement  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DandyD on September 10, 2020, 04:44:40 AM
The Z car is at last, sitting on its own suspension

Zed Cars, that takes me back to the age of black and white TV.

(https://images.honestjohn.co.uk/imagecache/file/width/640/media/11806967/03~Z-Cars.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2020, 09:07:59 AM
Because the Barra will kill an RB26
I've seen some stuff on a guy in Oz that put a Barra in an R32
No replacement for displacement  :cheers:

CORRECT.....  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 10, 2020, 11:29:11 AM
OH MAN.... this is piss funny.

I knew the old Zephyr diff had a mountain of backlash in it.
I'd assumed, it had Shit the planetary gears,

Today, I attempted to drain the oil. (Drain plug isn't coming out in this lifetime)

Threw an ice cream bucket under it and undid the centre to let it drain while I bopped the axles out.
These things run a floating hub and separate bearing set up to the axle.
The right side axle slipped out and bearing hub has started to undo itself.... danger Will Robinson....sumfin isn't right.

The left side seemed ok, so grabbed the ice cream bucket.
I kid you not, not one drop of oil, nada, zero.... dry as a dead dogs dick.

Lifted the centre out and nearly dropped the friggin thing laughing.

The crown wheel and pinion teeth are ground down to a razor sharp finish.

The diff in this thing would've howled like a bastard......  ;D

It confirms why it came off the road in Sept of 1970......   :cup: 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on September 10, 2020, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers

The crown wheel and pinion teeth are ground down to a razor sharp finish.
:worthles: :worthles:
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Post by: GeoffA on September 10, 2020, 06:40:04 PM
Warranty??
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 11, 2020, 08:10:56 AM
Check out these teeth.
If you've ever seen a diff gear, they are way thicker than these.

The 235 drag radial sits under with ease too. (just using a bald one for testing)
The new ones are here next Wednesday.
The new diff is yet to be shortened, the old housing and Shit is going in the wheelie bin.
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Post by: DannyG on September 11, 2020, 08:12:12 AM
Banana Peels will fix that ;D
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Post by: edz on September 11, 2020, 10:03:53 AM
Looks like its been drier than a nuns nasty, for a lonngggg time, Its a wonder the carrier and pinion bearings survived ..
Trimmed and sorted these out a bit ..Thought they might be able to be enlarged and put about the ZED Zone  .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 11, 2020, 02:36:34 PM
Those flyers are pretty cool.
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Post by: 2Strokeit on September 11, 2020, 04:36:04 PM


Check out these teeth.
If you've ever seen a diff gear, they are way thicker than these.

Jeepers K top pic.
300,000k 80 series bottom pic.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/7ec5e60c78edd1ea198683640ce82142.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/246bf33184054b5941fe86ba6c510140.jpg)
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Post by: bmwfreak on September 11, 2020, 06:11:14 PM
Is the 80 series nestled in the wife’s bridal veil? :angel: :angel:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 14, 2020, 03:57:28 PM
Bloody Covid 19 is slowing down my getting parts now.....  :'(

2 Weeks for the diff brace, 4 weeks for the true trac.

        https://www.hemiperformance.com.au/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_5113.jpg                       (https://www.hemiperformance.com.au/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x800/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/m/image_5113.jpg)

        https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/image/cache/catalog/Driveline/Truetrac-1000x1000.jpg           (https://www.harrop.com.au/shop/image/cache/catalog/Driveline/Truetrac-1000x1000.jpg)
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Post by: edz on September 14, 2020, 09:54:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdTXsMvcIs0&t=186s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdTXsMvcIs0&t=186s)  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 15, 2020, 03:26:46 AM
With some sticky road tyres, we'd go pretty good around corners..... I think.
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Post by: NZMarkb on September 16, 2020, 03:03:42 PM
.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200916/a5030638a1b0f81fb0978c5013fad1d1.jpg)

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 16, 2020, 03:56:01 PM
YEP...... 2 brand new drag radials came home today and going to have a look at some caltracs tomorrow.
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Post by: NZMarkb on September 16, 2020, 04:05:59 PM
Unfortunately most things that are fun cost us one way or another
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 19, 2020, 08:30:31 AM
Had a look at the gear from the Gazzard Bros...... noice..

We'll be spending some money there soon.

Couple of pics,

1. The floor is pretty good now, so I can start making some templates for the replacement of some sheet metal.

2. Not cheap, @ $780 a pair, but hmmmm baby, nice and sticky.

3. When i'm not building the car, i'm digging out the pool I filled in 10 years ago.
    I was setting a pump to get the water out.


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 21, 2020, 12:12:11 PM
 do enjoy having a win.....

When I got the Falcon ute home, back when....
One look at how close the rear calipers were to the 16 inch mags, there was no way in hell, 15's were going to go on.
Pissed me off, as the handbrake set up from the ute is a 10 times better set up

Even to the point, I bought some EB falcon rear discs and Shit, so I could get the 15's on.

This morning, while prepping everything ready for the diff short back and sides, I did a test fit.
Bugger me, very slight rub on a high spot on one caliper slide.

Nicked a mm or 2 high spot off (about 20mm thick) and good to go.

Happier than a baby beaver in a toothpick factory.

Still switching between the barra that hauls crap and a barra that's gunna haul arse.
Until I saw these pics, I didn't realise what a fat c**t I am.

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Post by: 2Strokeit on September 21, 2020, 08:24:06 PM



Until I saw these pics, I didn't realise what a fat c**t I am.

Yeah I thought Steve Irwin had pranked us all and spent the time eating his way out of the pool.
Picked up your led lights today....I'll let you know when we get back down there.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 22, 2020, 03:04:19 AM
Excellent.....  :cheers:

No idea why the 2 pics never went up.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on September 26, 2020, 03:52:50 PM
Just plodding along now,
Tyres and wheels ready.
Diff is still awaiting some parts before the shortening takes place.
Starting to set the steering and seating position.
Yes, all the trim will be done
Yes, the steering column still needs to come back a bit yet.

I had a swagger call in, so I didn't get finished on all my chores.

Still digging out the pool as well..... Nearly at the bottom now.
The pool goes from 3 feet deep to 6 feet deep in one step.
It'll be a nice pale blue colour when its finished.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 01, 2020, 04:31:26 PM
Great  little milestone today, the XF column, is all mounted and connected to the Nissan front end.

And the bastard steers.....

What a friggin dick around it was too.
Looking at it finished..... doesn't look that hard.  ???

Now it all has to come back out again for final holes to be drilled, some welds to be performed.

I'm feeling pretty chuffed though, 59 Ford, 89 Ford and 1990 Nissan all blended together. :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2020, 03:35:20 AM
Bit more info.....

The XF steering column, drives through a rag joint to the steering box in an XF.
I've mounted it to drive a rack and pinion, so a mounting bracket is required to anchor the bottom of the column.
Bit of pissing around, as the column has to remain square to the dash mount of course.

The distance from the rag joint to the rack, looks piss easy..... it was the hardest bit to do.

The ADR approved steering universals, are governed to a 35 degree angle.... piss easy.....hmmm, not so much.

Friggin time consuming and the 1st test steer resulted in notchy steering..... pisser.  ???

The rack end, is fixed, the column end, while it can be moved/adjusted slightly into the cabin a tad further, is pretty much a fixed number.

It all came down to the placement of the #1 universal..... after fine tuning it and having it in and out maybe 10 or more times, it worked.

The steering flowed well, no notchy bits..... a job I thought would take a couple of hours.... took 6 hours to complete.
Good fun getting up and down on the creeper, nearly rocked myself to sleep more than once trying to get up.

The driving position in the car is good and set up perfectly for me.
The seat is adjustable in every way, and with the adjustable height column, a midget could drive it as well.

Today, I need to retrieve the left seat runners from the donor car, which has a seized bolt stopping their removal.
Then I can mirror reverse the mounts on the drivers seat.

The leg room in the rear, is surprisingly good too..... well, it appears to be good.

I have a theory that I might be able to get a Statesman rear seat to fit the back.
With some extra bolstering, I want to have the rear seat a little bit more like two bucket seats.
But, still with a fold down centre armrest and incorporate cup holders into the armrest.

The Zephyr will be rego'd as a 4 seater, hence my plan for the back to give the crew some comfort.

Did a test fit of a really cool looking under dash air set up yesterday too...... not even friggin close.  :'(
Looks like I will just use some retro vents and use a normal system.

At least that way, I can run vents up the centre console to the rear.... not possible with a knee freezer set up.
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Post by: Bird on October 02, 2020, 10:40:22 AM
Why arent you running the BMW n63 V8.... Just change the plugs and off you go... if you can find em.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 02, 2020, 12:19:51 PM
what a friggin Shit fight huh.....  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 02, 2020, 12:48:40 PM
That looks like it was designed by an Eyetie  in love with spag bol  ..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 02, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Quote from: edz
That looks like it was designed by an Eyetie  in love with spag bol  ..

its nuts.. but mate is BM Master tech - everything has a sensor....
you dont even check the windscreen washer bottle... the computer tells you it needs 72ml of water.

thus 852908402394 klms of cables, but simple tasks would be a misery!!!!!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2020, 04:31:23 AM
Couple of pics from during the week.

The steering is all still in "mock up" stage and will come out again this week.

Lucky the gearbox wasn't any bigger.... the floor cut nearly impacted the seats.
Once again, in "mock up".....  :D

Everything went pretty good, even the drivers airbag looks like it will work.

The piece of metal strap over the box, was testing out the profile for when the tunnel/floor and firewall go back in.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on October 06, 2020, 04:36:30 AM
She's coming together well mate
That's some mean angle on the steering shaft  :'(
What's the deadline
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 06, 2020, 05:06:41 AM
She's coming together well mate
That's some mean angle on the steering shaft  :'(
What's the deadline

The steering angle came in under the 35 degrees you are permitted. (not by a lot though)
The steering is smooth to operate though.  :cup:

Trying to have it all done by this time next year, ready for the 5 day drag challenge in Nov 2021
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 09, 2020, 04:22:42 PM
I bought some really trick gear today.

Triangulated traction bars for the mighty Z.
Some sliders, to do away with the shackles on the back of the springs.
A wicked anti roll bar (still in the box, so no pic) to make the car launch nice and flat.

My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.

 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 09, 2020, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.
for the intended use, theres no use doing it cheap and nasty... expensive but worth it in the end...
poor man cant afford cheap things :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 09, 2020, 04:44:44 PM
for the intended use, theres no use doing it cheap and nasty... expensive but worth it in the end...
poor man cant afford cheap things :D

Oh hell yeah.

Footy Shorts Shane is pretty involved with the car too.
Rang me the other day and said.....
"My calculations are, you're going run 8:70 @ 156 mph."  ;D
Scott from Gazzard Brothers Racing, reckons it will piss in an 8:80 @ 155mph.

Either way, it looks like we are headed for 8 second quarters.... can't wait.
Shane weighs less than me too, so he will be quicker in it than me.... but I don't mind.
Even the wife smiled when I told her.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 10, 2020, 05:10:49 AM
https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F)

Footy Shorts Shane has donated this to the cause..... Shit a brick, he looks after me.
A complete, brand new brain box to run the engine and Shit.


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Post by: tryagain on October 10, 2020, 07:44:35 AM
https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/121092113_2873658279400263_8100724733497876679_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=toWOH7nMyBIAX_BIucu&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=6&oh=38f84bff18b014ff45f08d37daae0cfd&oe=5FA7449F)

Footy Shorts Shane has donated this to the cause..... Shit a brick, he looks after me.
A complete, brand new brain box to run the engine and Shit.

Haltech?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 10, 2020, 08:24:20 AM
Haltech?

He didn't say... to be honest.

With Shane, its only good gear, everything else goes in the skip bin.
This will be a saving of around 2 or 3 grand on its own.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Heavensent on October 10, 2020, 10:01:35 AM
Cant wait to see this finished.
Love a good barra.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Pete79 on October 11, 2020, 05:44:57 AM
Good progress there.

Just be careful with those XF airbags, they have a habit of not going off when you need them.... ;)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 02:59:49 PM
Today has seen the A/C compressor mounted.... piss easy.... factory falcon barra thingy.

The alternator fouled with the ol Nissan engine mount on the right, which I was going to cut off anyway.

Got the trusty air hacksaw onto that and got the clearance needed. Looks rough as too.
Will all be cleaned up and sorted when Shits comes off for painting.
The radiator has now been moved back into the engine bay. (normally sit in front of the radiator support panel.)
The 16 inch lecky fan fits with space to burn.

I reckon, you could change the serpentine belt without removing anything too. Winner winner chicken dinner.

I did a temporary mount up of the A/C condenser...... sits pretty tidy behind the grille.

I have enough room, to fit a 620 x 300 x 100 intercooler.
Not quite as big as I hoped for, but hey, a bag of ice on the intercooler between 1/4 mile passes works for me.
We won't be running at full ticker on the street, just a lazy ol 300 or 350hp for cruising.

I've also started making the templates for the firewall and trans tunnel replacements.

I have to say though, after doing the final bit of the pool first thing, then this today.... i'm friggin knackered. ??? 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 04:08:54 PM
Why don't you plumb the aircon into the inlet of ya intercooler?  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 04:21:30 PM
Why don't you plumb the aircon into the inlet of ya intercooler?  ;D

Foo

 do ya think I should... ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 04:39:06 PM
do ya think I should... ;D

Have a mate that designed one for the big dumpies that run in the mines but it was going to cost to much for the company to setup for it but worth looking into when getting temps spot on for HP, isn't it? Have a bypass valve for when ya racing for the cold air but then again, I know nothing about Drag Racing.  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 11, 2020, 04:55:31 PM
For the racing, a simple bag of ice on the intercooler will be plenty.  :cup:

That's only if we have to do a few runs back to back.

If the ol turd does the right thing and the driver gets his Shit together.....
We'll lay down a solid pass, bank it and get on with the 350klm drive to the next track... that's the plan.  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 05:02:30 PM
For the racing, a simple bag of ice on the intercooler will be plenty.  :cup:

That's only if we have to do a few runs back to back.

If the ol turd does the right thing and the driver gets his Shit together.....
We'll lay down a solid pass, bank it and get on with the 350klm drive to the next track... that's the plan.  ???

 :laugh: :laugh: :cheers:

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 11, 2020, 05:26:01 PM


Trying to have it all done by this time next year, ready for the 5 day drag challenge in Nov 2021
;D ;D

C'mon......you're 1/2 done now...I reckon if you got your arse into gear it would be finished by January.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on October 11, 2020, 05:53:12 PM
;D ;D

C'mon......you're 1/2 done now...I reckon if you got your arse into gear it would be finished by January 2022.  ;D ;D

That's a bit harsh, isn't it?  :angel:

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on October 11, 2020, 07:03:27 PM
I bought some really trick gear today.

Triangulated traction bars for the mighty Z.
Some sliders, to do away with the shackles on the back of the springs.
A wicked anti roll bar (still in the box, so no pic) to make the car launch nice and flat.

My wallet still has smoke coming of it, but it was worth it.
Dumb question, but are the sliders kind of like slipper springs (but much better)?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 11, 2020, 07:50:55 PM
That's a bit harsh, isn't it?  :angel:

Foo

That's good, I didn't know you could alter a quote ??  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 12, 2020, 03:43:45 AM
Dumb question, but are the sliders kind of like slipper springs (but much better)?

Yes mate.
In place of just a slider plate, these run a bush still, are a captive style set-up and can find their own happy spot.
Surprisingly, they don't really move all the much either.

Then, with the anti roll bar.... the car should leave the line flat and not all torqued up and losing time through the suspension.
It may very well have the front wheels anywhere from 2 inches to 2 feet in the air..... but flat in the rear.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on October 12, 2020, 04:10:22 AM
Thanks.  Learn something new everyday.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 12, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
This might show it a tad better.

https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz3.jpg (https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz3.jpg) The sliders.

https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz2.jpg (https://www.speedpro.com.au/assets/images/catalog-product/thumb/Gazz2.jpg) The traction bars.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 12, 2020, 07:47:59 AM
Ford used roller leaf springs on their works Escort rally / race cars back in the late 60's
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 05:21:14 AM
arrrr, the joys of a mix n match car build.

I would like to run, the donor car brake booster and master cyl. if it was going to be possible.

Not a hope in hell on the booster, way to big in diameter.
So, went down the Goldy on Monday to get a 7" single diaphragm booster in black, if the Ford M.cyl will fit it.
(not looking to highlight the brakes, just wanna keep it simple)

NO, not a chance...... Pisser, because the matching master cyl to the 7" booster is pretty ugly.

Alright then, give me a 7 inch chrome booster and matching chrome milled finish master cyl then please.

Oh, we have the master cyl in stock, but no chrome booster.
OK, give me a black booster then please.
No, we don't have any 7 inch boosters in stock at present. :-[

Would you still like the master cyl sir.
No, as it needs to match, so I just bought some other stuff I required and got a credit on some stuff i'd bought but didn't use from 2 weeks back.

Started ringing around, prices varied all over the shop to as much as nearly twice the price.

I had a look at a 2000 BMW unit, but too big.
Found a Gemini booster that had merit, but would need to adapt a 1 inch bore master cyl to it.
Considered a Subaru unit, but same again on the master.

Then found a mob in the Covid Capital that had the 7 inch booster, in chrome and in stock.
It was $5 cheaper than the one that couldn't be supplied on the Goldy, but i copped $20 in postage. (I can live with that)
OK, i'll take the booster and the master cyl in chrome please...... (standard, they just look like crap.... really ugly)

Oh, sorry sir, nil stock on the master cyl.
OK, just send the booster please.

Ring the mob on the Goldy, and get the master put on hold until Dougie picks it up Monday.

Arrrr, the joys of a mix n match car build.

Seeing Footy Shorts Shane today, to pick up the brain box for the engine, a line lock for the brakes and give him a speedo drive I sourced for his Monaro.

What's a line lock.... at the flick of a switch, it will shut off the rear brakes while i'm doing a burnout prior to a run.
No sense burning the crap out of the rear pads, as i'll lightly ride the brakes during a skid to keep  the speed of the skid in check.

The Zephyr was swung around the other way yesterday and on Monday, i'll start making some more templates for the firewall.
Then I can start cutting up some sheet ready to be welded back in.

Oh, and there is still the pool to finish.... i'll start on doing the sealer job on my hairline cracks.
I might work out the plan for the decking too I think, as I need at least some of that done before the pool fence goes up.
I won't fill the pool prior to the fence either...... nil chance of someone falling in and drowning..... but.... safety first.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on October 17, 2020, 07:08:27 AM
How old are you jeepers ??   Certainly have a bit on your plate, you make me tired just reading your posts !!  ;D


Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 08:30:49 AM
How old are you jeepers ??   Certainly have a bit on your plate, you make me tired just reading your posts !!  ;D

I was 60 years old in May just gone.

I've done 10 barrow loads of timber and crap to the burn pile this morning.
Gotta clean up around the work site (Pool) so i'm not tripping over myself.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 17, 2020, 09:36:40 AM
Oh hell yeah.

Footy Shorts Shane is pretty involved with the car too.
Rang me the other day and said.....
"My calculations are, you're going run 8:70 @ 156 mph."  ;D
Scott from Gazzard Brothers Racing, reckons it will piss in an 8:80 @ 155mph.

Either way, it looks like we are headed for 8 second quarters.... can't wait.

Now, here is an interesting little titbit.

Looking at the entries for 235 Radial Blown for the upcoming Drag Challenge Weekend..... End of Nov. @ Willowbank

The fastest car is a Torana hatch @ 8:63. a Datsun 1200 wagon @ 8:80 and a couple of others who can or will be fast.

If we can string everything together on the day, I would expect us to a top 5 contender or better.
I wish we were waaaaay closer to finished than we are..... Drag Challenge 2021.... bring it on.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 04:07:58 AM
Caught up with Shane yesterday.....

What a legend.... WE now have the following bits.  :cup:

The brain box to run the whole shebang, brand spankers Autronic unit and still in the box. (Aussie made too)
A couple of new Aeroflow 90 degree polished intercooler pipes still in their wrappers.
A handful of new clamps to suit.
A near new, but used, Sun tacho.... really ol skool look.... friggin perfect for it.
A near new, but used, MSD shift light.... again, an ol skool chubby look one.  :cup:

Man o man, he sure looks after me.
The car is booked in to go to Shane on the 30th of this month now too.
That's when we will suss out the space required for the plenum intake setup and the pipes to suit the turbo.
We'll rattle the u bolts off the ol diff, and lift the housing out.
Then we can set the distance we need for the new diff to be shortened and Shit.
Then we can bung the ol housing back in, whack the Z car back on the trailer and home again.

Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on October 18, 2020, 04:13:47 AM


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on October 18, 2020, 05:38:48 AM
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

still readin, don't say nuthen cause I cant add anythink intelligant, but still readin.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jwb on October 18, 2020, 06:02:22 AM
still readin, don't say nuthen cause I cant add anythink intelligant, but still readin.
Same Same:)

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Post by: Champin on October 18, 2020, 06:32:57 AM
Ditto. Checking in every day.

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 08:07:44 AM
cool.... I can live with that.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: grc on October 18, 2020, 08:09:09 AM
Me to still reading
keep up the good work
     
       CHEERS GRC  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 18, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
I struggle a bit with the Big words but do alright with the phota's and scribbles  .. ;D
This Z- Car build reminds me of this     https://youtu.be/BlL3BhOxChA (https://youtu.be/BlL3BhOxChA)      ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: db on October 18, 2020, 09:30:30 AM
Reading and enjoying
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 09:48:08 AM
This is the gear I got yesterday.

How cool is the tacho.

Shane, on a quick think, has donated around $7,000 worth of gear to the cause now.
Hard to thank someone enough for that sort of thing.

I sure as hell hope he enjoys driving and racing it from time to time.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 18, 2020, 11:28:39 AM
The Tach's doing a thousand revs and not connected     8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 11:48:40 AM
The Tach's doing a thousand revs and not connected     8)

Can't hold back a Barra.  :cup:
Itchin baby, just itchin to go.

Most tachs do that.... Autometers often read 2,000 when off.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 18, 2020, 11:52:03 AM
not going with the big Guido dinner plate special with shift light?
(https://sb-images-product-main.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/autometer-au233904.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: moeite on October 18, 2020, 12:11:24 PM
…..
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Yep still reading and bloody interesting it is too....

The whole things highlights a couple of laws, adages or old charters.

The amount of work will expand to fit the available time and resources (usually money). This one sorta mirrors the "Shed Rule" - the amount of stuff you have will expand to fit the shed no matter the size of the shed.

80% of the task will take 20% of the resources (time, stuff, etc) and 20% of the work will take 80% of the resources...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 18, 2020, 12:24:04 PM
not going with the big Guido dinner plate special with shift light?
(https://sb-images-product-main.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/autometer-au233904.jpg)

I am using a shift light.... this really ol skool one.
I don't really need the tacho, but its too cool not to.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on October 18, 2020, 01:42:53 PM
Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Had nearly 14,000 views now, I think it's safe to say it's being read.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 19, 2020, 05:14:02 AM
Caught up with Shane yesterday.....





Ummm, you bastards do read this thread I hope...... I still have doubts about it.

Yes we are

Next time you catch up with Shane say hello, he should come back

GG
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 06:07:54 AM
Yes we are

Next time you catch up with Shane say hello, he should come back

GG

Once Shane decides on something, it will never change.

I'll say hello though.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 19, 2020, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Once Shane decides on something, it will never change.
So tell him if Shane wont come back, to come back as Dave :D he always seemed like he'd be a good bloke to have around a campfire.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 09:21:36 AM
So tell him if Shane wont come back, to come back as Dave :D he always seemed like he'd be a good bloke to have around a campfire.

I'll try....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on October 19, 2020, 10:22:00 AM
I liked Shanes input as well, so say good day from me as well when you are talking to him Jeepers.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DannyG on October 19, 2020, 10:23:51 AM
Yeh I always thought FSS was good value too. Did someone or something p!ss him off here?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on October 19, 2020, 02:55:30 PM
Yeh I always thought FSS was good value too. Did someone or something p!ss him off here?

Getting his own business up and running demanded a big chunk of his time / attention, I think was the main reason . DG.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 19, 2020, 03:05:04 PM
After spending some time sorting the pool, it was time to hook into the Z car again.

I've never tried to remove the rocker cover before..... so,

The pesky little bugger came off.... JUST.
Clearence around the back of the motor to the overhead portion was close.... too close.
(Turbo Barra's have a red tappet cover.... ha ha ha couldn't help myself.... its red now.... looks awesome in there now.)

Anyway, a bit of fancy work with the angle grinder gave an extra 1/4 inch to play with and all is good in the world again.

Started shaping some sheet steel to replace the thin cardboard templates and we're underway.
Borrowing a gasless MIG tomorrow so I can zap the bits in place to check everything, really does friggin fit.

My welder guy can do the full weld job on the rotisserie, but I should be able to get the crap in place ready at least.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 02:05:45 PM
Shit these things can make some snort.
An 8.0 @ 172 will get the ice cream home before it melts.  ;D

https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/121781723_2692420311007351_8198584075239621466_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=_j4IY6WsAkUAX8yKkG3&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=964d530e9dc00448bf6014b6fb9ef7a9&oe=5FB2F0C5 (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/121781723_2692420311007351_8198584075239621466_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=ca434c&_nc_ohc=_j4IY6WsAkUAX8yKkG3&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=964d530e9dc00448bf6014b6fb9ef7a9&oe=5FB2F0C5)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 05:10:29 PM
Couple of shots..... I reckon the barra looks very cool in this ol tub.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 20, 2020, 05:11:45 PM
Couple of shots..... I reckon the barra looks very cool in this ol tub.
seems a long way back... need that much room for rad / ic / thermos? or ?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 20, 2020, 05:18:08 PM
seems a long way back... need that much room for rad / ic / thermos? or ?

The rad, normally sits out front of the radiator support panel.
By throwing it behind, I still have room for a 16" fan and I can change the serpentine belt with everything in there.

A friggin big intercooler will go where the radiator would normally be.
The A/C condenser  is tucked right up against the grill.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on October 20, 2020, 05:32:02 PM
The rad, normally sits out front of the radiator support panel.
By throwing it behind, I still have room for a 16" fan and I can change the serpentine belt with everything in there.

A friggin big intercooler will go where the radiator would normally be.
The A/C condenser  is tucked right up against the grill.
kewl...
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Post by: MadMarv on October 21, 2020, 01:22:01 PM
Hi Jeepers .... dont know if you know off him but a youtube series   Benny's Custom Works   has been running a barra in a Cresta both here in Aus and has done the drag challenge in the States (shipped it over there)   .... dont know if youve seen it or if it maybe off any use just thought id mention it ...... sweet build thou ....
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 21, 2020, 02:11:54 PM
Yeah, know the car well.... watched it run.... very cool car.
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Post by: Bird on October 21, 2020, 02:25:58 PM
Hi Jeepers .... dont know if you know off him but a youtube series   Benny's Custom Works   has been running a barra in a Cresta both here in Aus and has done the drag challenge in the States (shipped it over there)   .... dont know if youve seen it or if it maybe off any use just thought id mention it ...... sweet build thou ....
nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSbOJ-JLbk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vSbOJ-JLbk)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 21, 2020, 03:49:49 PM
If you noticed, the reverse lights come on as he stages.

That's the trans brake being activated, when it locks 1st and reverse together.
Then, you launch on a button on the wheel.
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Post by: Bird on October 21, 2020, 06:27:55 PM
If you noticed, the reverse lights come on as he stages.

That's the trans brake being activated, when it locks 1st and reverse together.
Then, you launch on a button on the wheel.
watch em on tele 'street racing' and they use em .. often wondered how they worked.
Hows the life of a gearbox then...
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2020, 02:28:05 AM
watch em on tele 'street racing' and they use em .. often wondered how they worked.
Hows the life of a gearbox then...

if built correctly, pretty good.

We'll be built to hold a 1,000 hp, but upgrades from there get very pricey, very fast.

A good Reid case can cost $2,500 on its own, our box will owe me $6,000 to be done.
Then there was the initial purchase and cost to blow the bell housing off @ $1,000.
Then there was the new custom bell housing and freight from the covid capital @ $990
Throw in a decent torque convertor @ maybe $1,500, some oil, a new gearbox mount, a good remote trans cooler and fan.
We'll have a $10,000 gearbox at the end of the build.

Wanna go faster, either spin the dice on what you have or start doubling the price.

Ha ha ha ha, drag racing, not for the feint hearted in so many ways.

In case you're wondering why i'm typing this at 2:27am, I've been awake for the last 2 hours running build stuff through my my stooped friggin head.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 22, 2020, 04:01:41 AM
Just a little bit more to ponder Bruce.

We are going to run the smallest turbo we can that will deliver the boost we (Shane) wants.
We want the car to spool up quickly..... not sit there all day trying to get itself wound up.

We will be on the trans brake for less time that way. (The box gets hot fast doing it)

With the initial impact of power at a sensible level, the box should last really well.
We also won't be racing every weekend either.
Drag Challenge Week (5 days back to back) and Drag Challenge Weekend (3 days back to back) are our main events.
I may do the odd Nostalgia Meeting, once a year.
I will do the Winternationals and run in Super Sedan as SS/BB class.
The rest of the time, it will just do street duties with a simple 350hp tune in it.
With the Fleetwood and the Zephyr to choose from, the mileage won't be excessive.

In comparison, when I drove the 34 Ford, being a blown set up, the initial step of the throttle was brutal.
You can't leave the line softly in that style of car/engine and believe me when I say..... you get the fukk outta there quickly.

Having said all that, even in the 34, I would pre stage on the footbrake and always try to stage first.
I had a great knack for bumping into full stage on the brake, hit the trans brake button and pick up the throttle to 4,000 rpm.

This way, we were making boost and ready to roll.
The first second is the hardest, getting a good clean launch and getting focused on which way you're going.

Any drag car, can go straight, left, right, up or instant wheel spin.
You have sweet fukk all time to react and react smoothly.

This pic will give a fair idea of what happens in a blown application.
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Post by: edz on October 22, 2020, 07:22:09 AM
Virtualy running on a Single wheel ....  Fronts doing airtime, left rear unloading to a full spinning balloon doing little and  relying on the torque loaded Right rear to grip and send you straight  off the line in the blink of an eye ....    :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 12:49:40 PM
In an effort to have the car ready for Shane on Friday....

Seats and Shit are out, entire front clip is back off it.

Shane said, you knock out the firewall and tunnel, i'll weld while you and Doug trim.

Doing the same job on the Datto all those years, nearly did my head in.
Knocked out 2 sides to extend into the cabin.... they sort of fitted ok.

Made a section for behind the engine, looks like a cathedral window.
Spot welded those in with a borrowed mig.

Measured, then double measured, how I thought the tunnel would, or should or even could.... look.

Cut the required section out of the main piece, after 6 trees, found one I was happy with.
Started rolling the sheet, wide at the front (Bellhousing), narrow at the back (extension housing).

Did a trial fit..... sort of looked ok.
Trim some excess fat (sheet, not me), even better fit.
Did a skinny minny final trim..... FUKK..... it looks pretty fukkin good.

I got so excited, I had to sit down and have a breather.

That is one MAJOR portion of the car build that really helps us move forward.

You have no idea, the stress I went through trying to work out a solution on the ol Datto.
And, this one will look better too.

Looks like we're going the beach (sunshine coast) on Friday.  :cup:

 
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 12:57:23 PM
so are the rules for modifying the firewall 'strict' or as long as theres a wall there - all good ??

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 01:05:05 PM
so are the rules for modifying the firewall 'strict' or as long as theres a wall there - all good ??

I've only trimmed what I had to.... not the whole thing.
Depends really from engineer to engineer really.

I've used brand new 1mm sheet and we've cut no double panels or anything like that.

It'll be as strong as it ever was, if not better.
I got the steel for chassis connectors this week as well.

By the time they go in, with a couple of outriggers and a cage.... she'll be sweet as...
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 01:11:48 PM
I've only trimmed what I had to.... not the whole thing.
Depends really from engineer to engineer really.

I've used brand new 1mm sheet and we've cut no double panels or anything like that.

It'll be as strong as it ever was, if not better.
I got the steel for chassis connectors this week as well.

By the time they go in, with a couple of outriggers and a cage.... she'll be sweet as...
some of them shows on foxtel where they restore cars they totally replace firewalls with custom made ones, some look really shabby - but that is US rules compared to ours.

its there for support/ strengthening the front ?

from wiki
 The name originates from steam-powered vehicles, where the firewall separated the driver from the fire heating the boiler.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 01:27:14 PM
The Zephyr's have a brace each side from the tower tops back to the top of the firewall.
Bit like an early Falcon.

I'll run a tower to tower brace as well.

Its funny ya know, some would say over engineered, others would want more done.
I just try to fathom the stress points and brace accordingly.

The ol Datto is still on the road nearly 30 years later..... I used the same principle there too.

It has to be strong.... @ 155 odd MPH (250kph) if it has a spill in the top end, I want it to stay in one solid piece.  ;D
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Post by: Bird on October 25, 2020, 01:32:42 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Its funny ya know, some would say over engineered, others would want more done.
I'd rather over engineer something that under.... 
Dude at work put a strut brace (side to side) on his forester GT... noticed the difference straight away.. well so he said LOL
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 25, 2020, 04:24:52 PM
Not fully welded yet, but pretty happy with my handiwork.  :cup:

Shane will weld it all on Friday.  ;D

The camera makes it all look crooked.
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Post by: #jonesy on October 25, 2020, 05:39:52 PM
Doesn't look like you've lost much leg room.
Is there any issue with the square corners on the firewall?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 26, 2020, 04:17:30 AM
In the beginning, I was going for nice rounded corners, but I knew I didn't have the smarts to make it work all that well.

Everything, floors, tunnel, firewall etc, will be covered with dyna mat (or cheaper version of dyna mat)
Then, with under lay and carpet for comfort, it should end up fine.

You won't see bugger all of it on the engine side.

She's no show car either, sure, it will look very smart when finished, what with painted underside and crap.... but.

You'll never see this car in a top 20 at a car show.
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Post by: Bird on October 26, 2020, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
The camera makes it all look crooked.
... yes the camera makes it look crooked.. :P
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 26, 2020, 12:16:06 PM
... yes the camera makes it look crooked.. :P

I looks good in the flesh too....

Its like a couple of engine shots, looked like the engine was all the way back to the boot.  :-[
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 28, 2020, 05:18:14 PM
Ya gotta love good mates.

I ring Neil, the guy I bought the Zephyr off. (Known him since I was about 19)

Any chance, I could borrow your trailer please.... for the third time.

Sure Kev, zip around to Fred's, just have it back by Sunday.  :cup:

I'll load the car tomorrow.

Doug will leave home at 4:30am to be here by 6:00.
Throw a ton of Shit in his truck, trailer on and off by 6:30 for a 2 hour run to see Shane.

Now, Shane is booked out until march 2021, but is making time for me on Friday.
We should be done at Shane's by around 1pm.... 4 and half hours out of his busy work load.

Then Doug and I head for Woop Woop.
Unload, send Doug on his way home.

Gotta love friends who are willing to help huh.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on October 31, 2020, 03:25:45 AM
Bloody hell..... what a day yesterday was.

Everything went to plan pretty good.

Trans tunnel is fully welded now.
About 70% of the firewall is welded.... the remaining bit will be done on the rotisserie for easy access.
We got the hole for the brake booster done.... that was way harder than it sounds too....... trust me.
We have the diff marked ready for a circumcision on both ends. We're removing 300mm for the donor diff to fit under.
The diff has the old spring saddles cut off and the new new saddles tacked on ready for welding.
The diff was loaded into the car and the pinion angle set.
We sussed out the clearances for the plenum intake.... that will see a little more space needed on the firewall on that side.
I have a plan..... Shane didn't laugh when I showed him my idea.....  :cup:

All up, a solid days work, car and crew covered around 400klm and everybody made it home safely.

Our 31 spline true-trac centre has left from Harrops.
Our diff brace/alloy hat thingy has left from Hemi Performance.

Love it when new parts arrive.
Shane looked after me with some nice bits yesterday too..... Shit a brick, but he's good to me.
 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 01, 2020, 01:11:10 PM
Whew.... i'm stuffed 6 ways to Sunday.... oh, it is Sunday.

I went and picked up the rotisserie this morning for use in a few weeks.
It involved a 4 hour round trip, but will make doing the chassis connectors and some welding dead easy.
It will make painting the underside in the same body colour mint green a walk in the park too.
Then I can easily masked the green and do the gunmetal grey frame rails and Shit.

I tell ya what, for a car that is highly unlikely to ever be judged for a car show trophy, man its getting some loving.

The only trophy I would like to win though, would be either a runner up or winner in 235 Radial Blown class at Drag Challenge.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 01, 2020, 01:42:41 PM
A few shots from Friday's effort.

With the back suspension at full hang.... looks like a top fuel tyre..... try squinting a bit... it does, honest.
Old saddles coming off.
New saddles tacked in place..... ya reckon that's not gunna get a fair ol chop.
Shane doing his thing with the MIG.
Doesn't everyone have a parachute bag to go on the back? LOL

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 07, 2020, 05:24:13 AM
Trying to mount a friggin booster and master cylinder for the brakes.... how hard could that be. ???

I took careful measurements of everything, cut trimmed and shaped the mounting plate.
It bolts to the firewall..... perfect, my little spirit level told me so.
It bolts to the booster...... perfect, mount plate in vice, check with a spirit level.... perfect.

Now check the master cyl bolt up point.... :-[

No spirit level required.... master cyl is not even friggin close.

I'd assumed (yes, I know the saying) the 4 bolts on the back, would be square to the 2 bolts on the front.

As you do, I filed, prodded, drilled and swore in an effort to be able to rotate the master cyl to level.

An hour in, after all the above, I did what I should have done an hour earlier.... so threw the kunt in the bin.
Yesterday morning, started fresh, and knocked out a plate that is made to suit ALL ASPECTS... be buggered, its all level too.

Today will see me finish off the full mounting of all the crap with bracing so the fukker doesn't fall off the firewall in an emergency brake situation.

AND..... the pushrod lines up spot on for the brake pedal arm...... so there.  :cup:
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Post by: jclures on November 07, 2020, 07:46:10 AM
I have just been doing the same to a WB Holden ute, fitting a VX booster and master cylinder, ended up making a a adaptor so I can get it all to fit. I just now hope it fits around the LS1 when it goes in.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 04:50:38 AM
I have just been doing the same to a WB Holden ute, fitting a VX booster and master cylinder, ended up making a a adaptor so I can get it all to fit. I just now hope it fits around the LS1 when it goes in.

I got mine finished yesterday..... not easy on a car with a master cylinder the since of a friggin egg cup.
The mounting plate is braced, strong as all Shit and will look ok when everything is finished and painted.

I had this fear of an emergency brake and the master cylinder/booster ends up on the road or in the back of the turbo. LOL  ;D

Bit of a day off today I think, going to load the stuff for Shane in the Fleetwood ready for an early leave in the morning.
Going to call in and visit Elvis on the way home tomorrow as well.
Yes, Elvis lives in Queensland..... but why wouldn't he.
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Post by: Foo on November 08, 2020, 05:36:38 AM
Found a pic of you from when you were a tacker.  ;D :angel:

(https://scontent.fbne8-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/120075055_2834452723544487_1879363987348444004_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=9QMB6cJG_Q0AX-DSp3p&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne8-1.fna&oh=a82d839d392a58ee91ad5fd0c75adc61&oe=5FCCBD9E)

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 05:48:20 AM
LOL..   :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 12:43:50 PM
a few pics from this week.....

1. Our Eaton/Harrop Engineering 31 spline truetrac centre arrived by TNT on Tuesday.
    Its a nice piece, strong as an ox and of course, allows us to use a 31 spline axle.
 
2. About an hour later, our postie delivered the bracing hat for the diff.
    It has pins that locate against the carrier caps to stop them splaying under power.

3. The tunnel  and bits got a shot of primer.
    Not fully welded, but will be when its in the rotisserie.... bit easier then.

4. The start of the booster mount.... take 2.
    The bolts mount to the pedal box inside, making it into one big kick arse mount.

5. Hmmm, not looking too bad.
    More pics in the next post.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 12:51:44 PM
and.... more of the same, but with the mounting plate braced from behind.

Friggin lot of work gone into that.....  ???

Never really wanted the bling either, but the master cyl in the raw finish looked like crap.
Most likely a waste on a car that will never be judged in a car show, but, it will look nice when i'm servicing it.  8)  ;D

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Post by: nab on November 08, 2020, 03:26:01 PM
Nicely taking shape. Hope the car is on level ground and tyres pumped up even otherwise the little bubble might be telling lies hahaha!!!! Ask me how I know to check...
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 08, 2020, 03:44:38 PM
Nicely taking shape. Hope the car is on level ground and tyres pumped up even otherwise the little bubble might be telling lies hahaha!!!! Ask me how I know to check...

LOL.... yeah, i'm good at making sure she's on the level.
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Post by: 6knights on November 09, 2020, 07:42:59 PM
For someone who knows nothing about street/strip cars Jeepers is there a particular reason why its so crucial that the booster has to be so spot on level?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 10, 2020, 03:40:33 AM
yeah, it just should be in my opinion.

Anything that holds fluid.... should be level.
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Post by: 6knights on November 10, 2020, 08:53:14 AM
yeah, it just should be in my opinion.

Anything that holds fluid.... should be level.



Fair enough
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Post by: Bird on November 10, 2020, 09:26:23 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.
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Post by: NZMarkb on November 10, 2020, 09:33:19 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.

Gas monkey never finish a race
And fail to even start some  :-[ :-[
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 10, 2020, 10:19:59 AM
how long till the final fit of engine ... stop sleeping... Gas Monkey would have had the build done in 2 hours.

I would love to think the engine will be in for the final time in 6 months.

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Post by: Bird on November 10, 2020, 10:23:43 AM
Quote from: NZMarkb
Gas monkey never finish a race
And fail to even start some  :-[ :-[

but it adds to the totally predictable drama LOL
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Post by: NZMarkb on November 10, 2020, 10:25:17 AM
but it adds to the totally predictable drama LOL

Your right on the money there mate  :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 04:31:49 PM
I've spent hours over the last two days trying buy a borg warner diff yoke that will accept a 1350 uni joint.

Only one place, reckons they can supply it.... but they're as dodgy as.
Everyone else, says they don't exist.... and I think i believe them now.

PLAN B: Buy a diff yoke for a 9inch that will absolutely accept a 1350 uni, modify the Shit out of the 9inch one and the borg warner one and marry the two together.

My ol mate Geoff England reckons he can do it. (bit of a whizz)

While I was there, I had a look at the drive set up he has done on a LARK for a customer.  :o
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Post by: GeoffA on November 11, 2020, 04:47:13 PM
I suppose you've looked at combination uni joints??
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 04:51:48 PM
I suppose you've looked at combination uni joints??

Yeah.... I can get one that's 1350/1310..... but we really need a 1350
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Post by: GeoffA on November 11, 2020, 05:11:55 PM
Yeah.... I can get one that's 1350/1310..... but we really need a 1350

Not comfortable down-sizing on two of the cups?

Years ago (about 40 :'() my brother put a 351C 4v OP/CC, toploader and 9" into his XY van.
He asked me to get the tailshaft sorted for him while he was away on hols. It was going to cost serious money to get one fabbed, so I looked at alternatives.
After about half an hour at the tailshaft rack at the local wreckers, I left with a ZD Fairlane shaft. He wasn't sure about it (he wanted the big boy HO-jobbie).
That shaft was still in the car when he sold it....but then, he wasn't doing 8's..... ;D

 :cheers:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 11, 2020, 05:16:22 PM
Exactly Smithers.... I bet he didn't have a trans brake either..... or super sticky tyres....LOL
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 15, 2020, 02:19:33 PM
Been working out a design and making some mounting brackets/plates for the spring sliders to bolt to.

By 10am yesterday and today though, it was just too friggin hot to work in the shed.

Once it hits 40 degrees in the ol shed, my enthusiasm just goes straight out the door..... followed by my arse.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 15, 2020, 04:25:29 PM
A couple of pics... if anyone wants to see what i'm rattling on about.

PIC 1. These are the pesky little brackets (only tacked so far) to be welded to the frame rails of the car.
          The sliders then bolt to the brackets to replace the shackles and bushes.

PIC 2. You can just make out where the old shackle bushes use to go.
          Once we have a shortened diff done, we can do an accurate placement for the sliders to work properly.

PIC 3. It'll be nice to be able to bolt the wheels on soon.
          For a standard wheel well, the 235's go in just nice.

PIC 4. Every fast street car needs one.  ;D
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Post by: Bird on November 15, 2020, 05:44:43 PM
Cant remember
you painting it or goin the patina?
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Post by: vern on November 15, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
How come i have just stumbled across this thread? Have a bit of back reading to do nlw.
Reminds me of my uncles Mk1 lotus cortina with mechanical injected stroked 302 windsor he used to race a Willowbank i believe in the 80's/90's, green and gold from memory.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 16, 2020, 03:59:59 AM
Cant remember
you painting it or goin the patina?

Painting it and trimming it Bruce.
Too much blood, sweat and tears to build, not to make it look nice.

Light green body in the same colour as this FB Holden and we will have a white roof, sunvisor and venetians.
Inside in light green, a dark green flash though the door trims and dark green carpet.

The engine bay and underneath is getting the green body colour as well.
The driveline and chassis/subframe rails will be in a charcoal hammer tone finish.
Yes, I know it won't stay shiny and clean underneath, but once every few months, i'll give the underside a hit with some spray and wipe.

Should just look like a rockabilly cruiser all finished.
Fit a parachute, quick tune change and a few odds and ends and its a drag strip bruiser.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 20, 2020, 01:52:50 PM
WOW.... what a week.

I managed to find a place that could supply the elusive diff to tailshaft piece I so badly needed.
$220 and its here..... yay.

Lots of pissing around the week sourcing the above, plus getting more work done to the pool.

I took my first  plunge into it this morning..... :-[
I've hurt my right ankle, left shoulder and I thing I've hurt my left hip.

Bit hard to tell, the other two fukking hurt so much, the hip is running a distant 3rd.

The pool will be much nicer to enjoy, once it has water in it I think.
Its fukkin awful when the fukker is still empty.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 21, 2020, 02:25:48 PM
Its funny how Shit just comes together sometimes.

I was busting my arse to find the elusive diff yoke which doesn't exist.
But talking to guys smarter than me, I was asked, why don't you use a flange to flange set up.

Not an angle i'd considered I must admit.

This is the new Sonnax light weight race piece up against the old Zephyr piece.
Hard to believe, I ran 14:00 @ 100 mph back in the early 80's on a Zephyr diff.
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Post by: edz on November 25, 2020, 10:12:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gREm3iIgOA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gREm3iIgOA)       .....      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaSnqZ2A7_U (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaSnqZ2A7_U)  ....
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1xREizT1k&t=94s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy1xREizT1k&t=94s)  ..
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 25, 2020, 01:40:49 PM
If he ever tips it over, that shifter is gunna do more than tighten nuts.

This is a second group who run Road Trip Drag Challenge.
VS
Street Machine Drag Challenge.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 04:30:04 AM
Bit of an update.

The new springs mounts for the front of the leaf springs, should come back from the fabricators this week.
Shane will start on the diff shortening soon, possibly tomorrow.
(He's flat out with work, and his back is still shot from an incident a few months back)

I've been bolting Shit on the car hell west and crooked to get some weight in it.
I need to car in its normal guise to set the position of the spring sliders correctly.

I ordered the laser cut exhaust flange blank yesterday.

Shane will use that to start on the pipework and the turbo mount.
We're borrowing a turbo for now, for me to find somewhere to stick it.

Seems pretty easy, but I want it close to the engine, real close, so the turd will spool quickly.
But, it has to be far enough away from the booster and master cyl not to cook them.
We need a spot, where we can do  a 5 inch dump pipe as well.
Also, need a spot where the intercooler pipes can be mounted, so it hasn't got super tight bends in it.
Can't wait to see some exhaust and turbo mount work on the engine.

Since the fall into the pool, i'm coming fairly good now, still walk with a friggin limp, back is friggin sore still, so taking Panadol's to dull the senses.
Like I can afford to dull the senses....  :-[

Picking up the paint this morning for the pool.... so will need to get a start on that pretty soon.
Would be nice to see it with water soon. (wish it had water when I fell in it)

And.... we have a heatwave due to hit on Sunday with next week be 40 degrees for at least 4 days in a row. YAAAAAY
That should make working in the shed easy.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 07:53:51 AM
I had these two photos sent tome yesterday.

Haven't seen them in maybe 15 or 20 years.

The two cars, 37 Fiat and 34 Ford I drove for Bob Scott..... waaaay back when.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on November 26, 2020, 09:19:15 AM
I had these two photos sent tome yesterday.

Haven't seen them in maybe 15 or 20 years.

The two cars, 37 Fiat and 34 Ford I drove for Bob Scott..... waaaay back when.

What sort of time did they run?
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Post by: Bird on November 26, 2020, 11:21:20 AM
Quote from: tryagain
What sort of time did they run?
bottom one says 7.6 @174
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:12:28 PM
bottom one says 7.6 @174

And the little Fiat went 7:43 @ 180mph.

Both cars had the potential to run harder, much harder, but it was all funded by Bob Scott and any sponsorship I bought it.
When ya run on a budget, ya never going to be the fastest.

Although, the 34 ran under the National ET record and over the National MPH mark, so was pretty happy with that.

When we licensed the Fiat, I just thought it would be as AA/Modified Altered (AA stands for V8/turbo, nitrous or blower)

We ended up as a AA/Alcohol Altered.  :o
I thought that was pretty cool, it meant I was licensed to run in Top Alcohol and I had a Group 1 license.

Fun days huh, I just loved the savage assault on the senses when you unleash a blown car.... friggin loved it.

However, I think, 20 years later as I head into old age, the Zephyr will be good for a couple of stiff willies.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:15:58 PM
Now, combine me with Footy Shorts Shane (below) and ya just know its gunna be fun.

https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FYbayKXRuH7Y%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1_8CFjCJ1E7aR58sLwnJWnUaYikZOsgou9cUxjufxFOBUlSX8dYmPpnNY&h=AT392Y5gCV-OLQJwqmTchZiwAQJ4JC7CPRLlrvL5JI8Mx2LiSTWp3lO-bsSB_ktszOEwP3pGlb9MwkAoUYJ4Q1jyW_id1oVDNlaA2sQD-ACtaq7E0FyMAhY-7XBpBgpJval1VGgFDi5lGI3f41Wprw45zyir-rcEWwJLlHWoFQYncttAFN0zISpcKEBL3RKfi_UzesADSu6etCKO25GPXhhmVzrk_V9wEYVBmXQWy829fhhmJheP0gr0YxxsnjxOWwSK2Wwnf0mc9n22c2FHTxjjNAG3HMoPQzm_WUVo9u_samxbDYrFZ7Ri5aZM41wHpOLLUcR51MdSQ-vLH4SL_gRfnM93xN6jLVa_kOy0dO_RJOA8jNaDlEn4dkMkqekGKuwvjGNkniWzeGDys7p-VifJq4AgCXO_UJFbw60BOi30hZMJWONd3pm9Fiase0CCI5LUISmM7ANPOYwMPkOiS56qHWwIigynVLF7efP7YBgdUiM4Wb0oVYJ-_sLhAUIVG6mTmErtlQlkfmvjbgE8BuKxlxje4Nses-8XsswimbBjdvtUnkw1fKXinjt4-tITGxZ4Fjc9oQH7raYhZp3fUD84S6fasz-DMGLujovmrenBWYrvzpC9xSRqdL8Z5cNTikD2_NE7EIBnGV_ze5hWsZ-PFpZsifXKiUgDGv6VNGWmrBkzYs8KE1rfQ-geODc (https://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FYbayKXRuH7Y%3Ffbclid%3DIwAR1_8CFjCJ1E7aR58sLwnJWnUaYikZOsgou9cUxjufxFOBUlSX8dYmPpnNY&h=AT392Y5gCV-OLQJwqmTchZiwAQJ4JC7CPRLlrvL5JI8Mx2LiSTWp3lO-bsSB_ktszOEwP3pGlb9MwkAoUYJ4Q1jyW_id1oVDNlaA2sQD-ACtaq7E0FyMAhY-7XBpBgpJval1VGgFDi5lGI3f41Wprw45zyir-rcEWwJLlHWoFQYncttAFN0zISpcKEBL3RKfi_UzesADSu6etCKO25GPXhhmVzrk_V9wEYVBmXQWy829fhhmJheP0gr0YxxsnjxOWwSK2Wwnf0mc9n22c2FHTxjjNAG3HMoPQzm_WUVo9u_samxbDYrFZ7Ri5aZM41wHpOLLUcR51MdSQ-vLH4SL_gRfnM93xN6jLVa_kOy0dO_RJOA8jNaDlEn4dkMkqekGKuwvjGNkniWzeGDys7p-VifJq4AgCXO_UJFbw60BOi30hZMJWONd3pm9Fiase0CCI5LUISmM7ANPOYwMPkOiS56qHWwIigynVLF7efP7YBgdUiM4Wb0oVYJ-_sLhAUIVG6mTmErtlQlkfmvjbgE8BuKxlxje4Nses-8XsswimbBjdvtUnkw1fKXinjt4-tITGxZ4Fjc9oQH7raYhZp3fUD84S6fasz-DMGLujovmrenBWYrvzpC9xSRqdL8Z5cNTikD2_NE7EIBnGV_ze5hWsZ-PFpZsifXKiUgDGv6VNGWmrBkzYs8KE1rfQ-geODc)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 12:21:03 PM
Wait until you see him on this pass.
He's pissing himself laughing, as the car just didn't wanna play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdrItcgKymU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdrItcgKymU)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 01:42:23 PM
Shane just messaged me..... diff cut is about to happen right now.  :cheers:
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Post by: Bird on November 26, 2020, 02:13:40 PM
Now, combine me with Footy Shorts Shane (below) and ya just know its gunna be fun.
https://youtu.be/YbayKXRuH7Y (https://youtu.be/YbayKXRuH7Y)
gee... amazing reaction time :D I reckon I'd have kicked that.  :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 26, 2020, 02:37:25 PM
gee... amazing reaction time :D I reckon I'd have kicked that.  :cup:

I gave him plenty about that too.... ha ha ha.

Only comes in one shade of green, no sense waiting for a colour chart.

I use to be outta there as the last yellow was going off.... it would either be a killer green light or a red light by a couple of thousands of a second.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2020, 06:22:28 AM
Drag Challenge Weekend kicked off yesterday.

I'm watching like a hawk, the 235 Radial Blown class.

With the Zephyr expected to run in the 8:70/8:80 region without issue, it was interesting to say the least, to see who ran what.

The Torana, (fastest 235 blown car to date) which has run 8:64, couldn't muster better than a 9:00.
Juan Kudnig's HT Holden however, cranked out an 8:63.

Once we get it on the track, we'll soon know whether we can run with the big dogs......


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on November 28, 2020, 09:20:18 AM
I guess ya gotta know when to hold 'em , and know when to fold 'em.

From Drag Challenge....

Rob Huston’s 1975 Dodge D5N had one of the day’s big blow-ups as it ejected the trans in the braking area at 110mph. The turbo, injected 355 Holden-powered pick-up gave Rob an adventure trying to stay off the walls, and it was obvious he was out of DCW.

“When I got out to have a look, the body of the transmission was being dragged along by the shifter cable and the torque convertor was being sort-of kicked along the track by the trans crossmember,” Rob said.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 02, 2020, 08:36:37 AM
Fuk me, ring the welding guy to see if the new front spring hangers are made after 3 weeks.

Tells me how he has done all these friggin shelves and Shit in his shed, but no spring hangers yet.

I was very polite, I told him I needed the old ones back tomorrow to test fit some bit parts.
(I would've given the dill a spray, but I want my parts back and not in the bin)

PLAN B. I'll mock up what I need and get Shane to weld 'em up.

Oh well, onwards and upwards.

I need as much weight as possible in the car at the moment too, to set the rear up when the springs are back in.
Hence, the old seat, all the panels and Shit are on for the time being.
The back leg room is pretty good.
The Air conditioning unit is going behind the back seat between the wheel wells.
I can take the air con hoses and fuel lines, down the new left chassis rail and take the wiring down the right rail once they're on.
Air will come back up through a centre console with outlets front and back for everyone.

Does my head in sometimes, i'm working out Shit months in advance, but ya kind of have to.

Shane and I will start on the exhaust for the turbo mount pretty soon.
We should be able to do a low mount set up and it would seem, we can run a 4 inch dump pipe without too much issue.

I'm ordering some pipe bends tomorrow..... too friggin hot to go anywhere today... to suit the new exhaust plate that turned up on Monday.

A few pics..... including the diff getting circumcised..... you can work out what's what.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 02, 2020, 08:40:42 AM
and, a couple more.

The bigger holes are the exhaust outlets, the others are just weight reduction holes for racing.  ;D

Now, before anyone pokes fun at my engine mounts, they are mounted from directly below as well.
I had no real way of making a 45 degree angle mount work.

So, I've mounted directly side to side so the engine forms part of a brace.
Then, by mounting from below off the Nissan X member, I end up with 2 mounts at 90 degrees rather than one at 45 degrees.

Makes sense to me, but if the engine turns itself upside down in there, I may alter my thinking.
Shane couldn't see an issue, so that was a start.

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Post by: Robbo on December 03, 2020, 11:10:30 AM
Now why did i think of you when i saw this poster Kev?? ;D ;D
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Post by: edz on December 03, 2020, 11:49:53 AM
Fixed it for ya
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 03, 2020, 12:10:17 PM
Ha ha ha.... pretty much sums it up to a tee.....  :cup:
Thanks Robbo and Edz.

Went and picked up my spring mounts this morning, after having nothing done in 3 weeks and 2 days.  >:(

parts are now at a different welding mob.  :D

I ordered some steam pipe this morning, a 1 metre length and 20 bends and a turbo mount plate to make a set of pipes and turbo mount set up.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on December 03, 2020, 06:26:49 PM
Three weeks and two days, waiting  Pfftttttt ..
Dropped a pair of Cam pulley's into a machinest mates workshop, to be turned into an adjustable cam timing pulley, He was going to do them as a gift,  for helping him with moving into the new workshop    ...    Fast forwards Twenty Seven years and still waiting.
Last I saw them, they were buried under a pile of metal dust..
The machinest mate has retired now, So his son took over the shop, maybe he will get them done before he retires ..
Still give the Pommy Git Shit everytime I see him .  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 03:53:26 AM
The new mob should be pretty good folks..... Campbell Engineering and Welding.  :cup:

The guy reckoned a week at worse..... I was hoping for a tad quicker, but it is what it is.

Forecast for the next 5 days is 39, 39, 40, 42 and a 36..... a week will be fine on reflection.

This happened yesterday....


On the odd occasion, I've heard people talk about or mention, or even advertise turbo manifolds that are built from steam pipe.
(I'd always thought... friggin tight arses using steam pipe)
Now, remember, poor ol Kev, has never had a turbo, in fact, i can't even recall having ever driven something with a turbo.

So, today, when i ordered 20 x 90 degree bends to start getting a set of pipes underway..... the guy asked me..... did you want steam pipe?
 You should of seen me, i put on my best "i know what i'm doing look" and said.... ****ed if i know. LOL.

Quick call to the brains trust (Shane) at HPEngines...... Yes Kev, steampipe.

So, 20 bends, 2 metres of straight and a turbo flange is underway.

Got home and thought Shit, if these little bastards are 10 or 20 bucks each..... holy crap.  :'(

Bits are in.... $4 each for the bends. Whew...  :D

Hoping we will be able to do a nice low mount set up and as Shane said the other day, get the turbo down low in some fresh air.
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Post by: edz on December 04, 2020, 07:10:55 AM
 You could have used the  Barra NA exhaust manifold Kev,  though the steampipe manifold gives you more room to play .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-QkayIliVA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-QkayIliVA)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 10:09:35 AM
nah.... being a 60 year old turbo virgin, i'm letting Shane call a lot of the shots on this build where the engine boost side of things are concerned.

Now, if it was nitrous oxide or supercharger.... things might be different.  ;D
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Post by: Bird on December 04, 2020, 02:17:45 PM
Some interesting links herte to old drag racing

http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/savannah-dragstrip.html (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/savannah-dragstrip.html)

http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/sydney-castlereagh-dragstrip-1965.html (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/sydney-castlereagh-dragstrip-1965.html)
http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/sydney-castlereagh-dragstrip-1966.html (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/sydney-castlereagh-dragstrip-1966.html)

http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/queensland.html (http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/queensland.html)

(http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/uploads/8/6/7/1/8671826/published/1965-101_1.jpg)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 02:41:06 PM
Here's something cool. The starters box from the old Lowood raceway, is in a front yard not far from here.

I'll grab a photo soon..... cool bit of history.
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Post by: Bird on December 04, 2020, 03:05:29 PM
Here's something cool. The starters box from the old Lowood raceway, is in a front yard not far from here.

I'll grab a photo soon..... cool bit of history.
Som times at Surfers in 70
(http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/uploads/8/6/7/1/8671826/8583927_orig.jpg)


theres something really kewl about how 'home fab' these cars were.. :D :D  :cup: :cup: :cup:
(http://www.speedwayandroadracehistory.com/uploads/8/6/7/1/8671826/published/1967-jim-and-nelma-reed-p-peter-crain.jpg?1588653457)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 04, 2020, 03:38:02 PM
No big dollar b double transporters back then.

Jim Reed (Brisbane Jim) is still going, Nelma passed away a few years ago.

The Ross Auto jobbie driven by Peter Dykes was always a good match race with Jim.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2020, 05:31:11 AM
I've been cutting off or grinding off all the old handbrake brackets yesterday. (sounds easy huh)

Ya reckon that's not a fun thing, upside down on the creeper, trying to get spot where I cover myself in sparks and all in 40 degree heat.

Since I put the new wheels on the creeper, you apply any pressure to anything ya doing.... the creeper just rolls back away from what ya doing. :D

Started making the new brackets to mount the Falcon cables and Shit.

The 2 rear cables will need to shortened to match the shortened diff now.

Never ending, every single item on this thing will be modded in some way, shape or form.

When its finished, after all this work and effort, not to mention, MONEY, I really do pity the first idiot who  says, I don't like...... XYZ.

They're gunna cop a savage head butt i'm tellin ya.
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Post by: gronk on December 06, 2020, 07:11:31 AM
I rarely ever use the creeper. That 3 inches you lose gets you too close to the car.

What if it's you that doesn't like something when it's finished ??   ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 06, 2020, 07:18:53 AM
I don't think that's gunna happen, but maybe i'll need to give myself an uppercut.  ;D
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Post by: edz on December 06, 2020, 08:38:50 AM
You will have to get one of these  Kev .   " Fleabay " .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 12, 2020, 04:32:48 PM
I'm still waiting on the welding of the spring hanger, just the new mob now..... fukk me.  :'(

So, I made a start on the left side chassis rail/chassis connector today.
This ol Zephyr, is gunna be as strong as an ox when i'm done.

I may add an extra outrigger from the original rails to the new rails as an extra bit of torsional strength at the front.
It will come off the original frame rail adjacent to where the motor and box join.
(Can't have the ol girl turning itself inside out)
The new chassis section, mounts and encases the other two factory outriggers. 

With a bit of luck, the new rail each side will look like a factory stock unit..... oh piss off, it will...honest.

We (Doug and I) laid out the plans for the new A/C set up.
It is, 100% going behind the back seat and pushing the cold air forward.

The entire unit will be encased in an alloy box, so the lecky fan can't allow any spark, anywhere near the fuel cell in the boot.
The system will draw air from the cabin through fake speakers in the parcel tray, A/C's it, then will push it back out through fisheye outlets on the parcel tray.
A second lecky fan will push A/C'd air through a hose in the centre console and will have 2 fisheye outlets up near the gear shifter.

The biggest pain, is running the A/C hoses from the front to the back, but they should fit through the new chassis rail for about 80% of the distance.

Decided to treat myself to a day off tomorrow.

But Monday, its onwards and upwards.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 15, 2020, 11:00:02 AM
Pic 1.
Just the standard ol sill panel, although huge compared to a Holden of the same vintage.

Pic 2.
The new rails, are notched, cut, trimmed.. you name it, its done for a fairly snug fit.

Pic 3.
That's the jacking point to the right, so each piece butts up and is going to be fully welded each side.

Pic 4.
This is the third bit and again, it gets fully welding to the factory outrigger you see on the right of pic. Believe it or not, i've run a feeler gauge around the gaps and when in place properly, the gaps are pretty good.

Pic 5.
This might give a better idea of the look.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 17, 2020, 12:12:21 PM
arh fukk.

On my way to Shane's yesterday, right at the halfway point, I remember I've left the fukkin exhaust header flange bolted to the engine.  :-[
(I'll post it to him now)

The diff came home yesterday....... yaaaaay  ;D

Still haven't heard from the second welding mob yet.
At 9:am this morning, i was over it.... and I mean... OVER IT
I'm off to grab my Shit, i'll fabricate the friggin bits myself and Shane said this morning, run 'em up and i'll weld 'em while you wait.
(Now I can deliver the exhaust header plate)

Whipped the covers off the Fleetwood, and off I go..... straight into a shower of rain. FUKK.
Get there and I can see my box of Shit still in the same place I left it.

No bastard around, so went in and grabbed it and on the way out..... I notice everything is welded.
Blood pressure has now gone berserk and I feel like I might be about to have a stroke. FUKK.

Had a good at the stuff, looks the goods, wicked nice welds, all done as instructed..... FUKKIN 'ELL.

So, I walk out the back and everyone is on smoko.

Found the boss, price was $50 cheaper than I was quoted..... FUKK.
Do you accept cards?
No..... oh fukk.
Can I swing by tomorrow and pay?
Sure you can..... Faaaaark.

Walking out, I spotted the guy I spoke to originally... Did you weld my stuff?
Yes, why, is something wrong.

NO, IT ALL LOOKS REALLY FUKKIN GOOD..... THANK YOU.

I mumbled my way to the car, headed for home.
Drove the Fleetwood straight through another shower of rain.... FUKK ME.

Got home, bits all fit perfect.
Now I can start putting the rear end back in.

If any telemarketer rings me today...... i'll go ****in postal.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 18, 2020, 04:25:23 PM
From Shane's facebook page.

Kev picked his shortened BTR diff up yesterday for his boosted Barra powered Mk II Zephyr.
Hope the "Fancy Commodore" made it home and he didn't have to put the mud flap on and walk.

 
https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/131895735_3768040513207194_8696740727401487980_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=QVMxX7R1mq0AX-nhiao&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne6-1.fna&tp=7&oh=6eadd28b91c9ff659419835ab4d2f6f7&oe=6002E892 (https://scontent.fbne6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/131895735_3768040513207194_8696740727401487980_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=2&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=QVMxX7R1mq0AX-nhiao&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne6-1.fna&tp=7&oh=6eadd28b91c9ff659419835ab4d2f6f7&oe=6002E892)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 04:55:35 AM
A good few days playing with this ol jalopy.....  8)

Getting Shit sorted to do  a trial fit of the diff, springs, traction bars and shocks.

At midday Friday, i had the freshly welded front spring mounts on.
I worked out pretty friggin fast, because the Zephyr has a 2 inch wide spring, i needed 7mm machined off each locating cone for the traction bar mount.
With only four working days to Xmas..... No machine shop was gunna do it and i wanted them right....... i solved it this way.

Hmmm, who do i know with a lathe.
Hmmm, the first welder guy had one, but would piss and moan, talk Shit, would get them done, would take friggin hours but only 10 minutes away.
Hmmm, the second welding mob would do a terrific job, but wouldn't see them this side of New Years.
Hmmm, ring my old boss from the 80's......  ;D
Mal, you still got ya lathe.
Yeah Kev, what ya need?
I explained it.
Yeah mate, be here at 9:30 in the morning (Sat), i'll do 'em while you wait. (Salisbury in Brisbane)

Got my bits done spot on.... cup of coffee and a biscuit, caught up with Mal, took the entire morning, but sometimes, that's ok, when ya don't have to listen to some wombat piss and moan about life...... life's what it is, either deal with or improve it whichever way ya can.

So, the bits all fit fine, the diff is painted and under the car.
The slider mounts need some tweaking, but i need 4 bags of cement in the boot first to cover the weight of fuel, battery and some crap to be accurate.

I had a young bloke around yesterday who can do my welding on site when we hit the rotisserie. (about 3 weeks)
Seems like a really nice bloke, loves what i'm doing and doesn't piss and moan the whole time ya talk to him.

He wants $50 an hour for the TIG and MIG welding, consumables and Shit like that.

I told him i'd pay $55 an hour and he's even keener now to get in and make it happen.

I tell ya though, if there was one downside to the weekend, it was getting the painted diff in without wrecking it.

Rags on stands, diff in place after about 30 minutes of dicking around. (rolled it under on a second creeper)
The first 3 attempts to bench press the turd in place were, shall we say, a bit of a failure. ???
I was getting more hot and bothered by the minute and good dose of the grumps coming on.

One final go, diff up..... woohoo, arms at full stretch, arms now starting to wobble a bit..... faaaaark.
One big final twist and turn it to go in over the leaf springs and my creeper begins to move.....faaaaaak. (I've already kicked the other one by now)

In over the springs, trying to come down gently, the creeper is still moving a tad and i have a real need to fart or worse.
Oh man....my arse checks were flapping around, the worse fart ever... deadset thought i was going lose a couple of internal organs for a moment.
At one stage, i thought i was going leave the shed like a Polaris Missile. (still holding the diff)
In amongst the noise and the smell, the diff was placed ever so gently on the springs ready for the mock up of the rear end to begin.

Now, just in case you think i'm being dramatic, i spent the balance of the afternoon with a dose of the squirts.  :-[
(Must be someone i ate)

I'll bung some piccies up later on..... but it was a good few days.
Still can't believe how slow this is going but, just over 6 months in already.
Car is still in mock up, still not in the rotisserie.
Shooting for a Oct. 2021 completion, so we can test and run Drag Challenge in Nov. 2021

What do they say, good things come to those who wait work.


Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on December 21, 2020, 05:03:40 AM
Now, just in case you think i'm being dramatic, i spent the balance of the afternoon with a dose of the squirts.  :-[
(Must be someone i ate)

I'll bung some piccies up later on..... but it was a good few days.



I don't know about everyone else but I hope we're talking about piccies of the car here :-\
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DandyD on December 21, 2020, 06:09:18 AM
I don't know about everyone else but I hope we're talking about piccies of the car here :-\

You are not alone. I don't want to see pictures of anybody's squirts.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 06:18:00 AM
Noooooooo

The ol donor pig left the building on Tuesday too.

The back tyres make the diff look so little.  :-[

All beefed up with a 31 spline centre.

Ya reckon it wasn't hot to pickup after 4 hours in the sun.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 06:26:32 AM
1. Starting to get Shit together.

2. Close up of the triangulated front section. Still some adjustments to be done yet. Lots of bolts need to replaced with shorter ones, the diff U-bolts are about 10 inches too long.... tons to do yet.

3. Side-on of the sliders, the green line is the set up point for where it needs to sit when on the ground. Once we have the sliders in the correct spot, the brackets will be welded to the rear frame rails. The holes are for 4 plug welds each side, plus fully welded around that portion. The black slider assembly can still be unbolted form the welded portion.

4. Same slider rear on shot.

5. Will be nice when everything under here is in the mint green body colour.
    Chassis rails and driveline will be painted in hammer-tone charcoal, the same as the diff housing is now.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on December 21, 2020, 09:14:03 AM
Don't know crap about mechanics, but I'm enjoying the updates :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 09:40:00 AM
Thank you mate..... nice to know you're enjoying the progress.... I know I am.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: warrenm on December 21, 2020, 10:30:30 AM
Looking good.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Kangaron on December 21, 2020, 10:45:09 AM
Like Spada I have the mechanical aptitude
Of a house brick, but am enjoying the read the look forward to the result.


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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Mace on December 21, 2020, 11:32:44 AM
Yeah, agreed.  I have some mechanical aptitude (I own a 20 year old Jeep to practice on), and enjoy the read. I particularly sympathize with any self inflicted injuries of fingers, knuckles and arms...  , although I have noticed  your noggin also occasionally feels some pain. 

Stay safe under there. 

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 12:23:25 PM
Yeah, agreed.  I have some mechanical aptitude (I own a 20 year old Jeep to practice on), and enjoy the read. I particularly sympathize with any self inflicted injuries of fingers, knuckles and arms...  , although I have noticed  your noggin also occasionally feels some pain. 

Stay safe under there.

I set another shirt on fire the other day with the angle grinder sparks, but over all, self inflicted injuries have been pretty good.
The pool.... that's a whole different ball game.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on December 21, 2020, 04:16:00 PM
You,re going well there Kev. Am enjoying the updates and pics as i owned and drove a 1960 Zephyr back in the late 60,s. Mind you, it looked nothing like yours. LOL  :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 21, 2020, 04:39:55 PM
You,re going well there Kev. Am enjoying the updates and pics as i owned and drove a 1960 Zephyr back in the late 60,s. Mind you, it looked nothing like yours. LOL  :cup: :cup:

Yeah, its going pretty good so far, that's the good bit.
The bad bit, is i'm slow, friggin slow now at getting Shit done.

The car arrived here on the 6th June and I officially started on it the 22nd of June.
So, tomorrow, I will have been at it for 6 months..... it should be much further ahead than it is.

I did have the falcon ute to gut, rape and pillage, but it should be out of the rotisserie by now.
Its still got about 3 weeks before it even gets in the bloody thing.

Hey, the mob that make the race suits..... yeah, gotta have one for the times we will be running.
I asked them, can you make the bottoms look like a pair of brown slacks and the top look like a beige cardigan.
They reckon yeah..... can't wait to see the looks I get getting in a MK2 Zephyr to runs 8's dressed like that.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on December 21, 2020, 06:20:04 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
The bad bit, is i'm slow, friggin slow now at getting Shit done.

**** dude, your 1 bloke working in a shed as a hobby,... not a business making kajillions out of it..









Can I have a drive...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on December 21, 2020, 07:29:14 PM


Hey, the mob that make the race suits..... yeah, gotta have one for the times we will be running.
I asked them, can you make the bottoms look like a pair of brown slacks and the top look like a beige cardigan.
They reckon yeah..... can't wait to see the looks I get getting in a MK2 Zephyr to runs 8's dressed like that.  ;D

Will that come with a brown beret and fake pipe ( when the helmet is off ) ???   ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on December 21, 2020, 08:01:49 PM
Will that come with a brown beret and fake pipe ( when the helmet is off ) ???   ;D ;D

....and leather elbow wear patches?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on December 21, 2020, 09:57:54 PM
And the race boots
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on December 21, 2020, 11:45:25 PM
Could always get your hemet Airbrushed to look like youre wearing the andy cap, Have the rest of the helmet painted with the side veiw of your melon .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 22, 2020, 03:49:39 AM
**** dude, your 1 bloke working in a shed as a hobby,... not a business making kajillions out of it..

Can I have a drive...

On the first line, yeah... I guess ya right.

As for a drive..... ya gotta be working on to earn the drive and not just washing it either.

Hey Edz, bloody Aden from Aden's art could do that.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2020, 08:54:36 AM
I thought he was going for this look
(https://i.pinimg.com/736x/13/10/e8/1310e818c1ba5164051bf1c91a390e72.jpg)

oir you could go for the Andy Capp painted on the door style with matching helmet
(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/33/72/77/33727750ff4d9cd267bf5db1df000c47.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 22, 2020, 09:35:14 AM
been on it since 6:30 (normal time).

We have rear suspension and wheels bolted up.
I'd really like to hook into the shock set up now, but I have a 4 hour mow job to do....MOW.... FUKKIN MOW.... not blow.  :D

Only got a few hours of mowing done yesterday.

Sure hope I have some energy left to drive it when its finished.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 23, 2020, 06:55:20 AM
A final couple of shots before Xmas.

The brakes are a decent size and the calipers clear the springs well, which I did have concerns about.
I'm pleased with the look of the wheels and how it all sits.
The brakes sure fill the space behind the wheels.
Then, there was that bloody mowing to do. (I still have around 6 hours left yet.
Oh, there was Astrid's present to wrap.

No work on the Zephyr now for the next 3 days..... I think i'll enjoy the rest.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 29, 2020, 02:43:35 PM
Still working.... still twirling spanners.

Managed to pick up a really straight front and rear bar for the car, along with some excellent bumper irons.
They got thrown on a for a size up and the pair of 'em, are just the best fitting bumpers.
The chrome isn't great.... but straight.  :cup:

They might go off with some tail light housings for re-chroming in the coming weeks.

The main issue at the moment..... rear shocks.... or lack thereof.

The ol Zephyrs run a lever action shock with 2 pistons in a housing, with an arm and drop link.

Spent a while this morning with Tom at Auto-Pro Gatton.

I've gone for a Ford Courier ute, rear shock.
At 340mm compressed and 560mm extended, i'm part way through setting them at 450mm at normal road height.
That gives me a 110mm of travel in each direction.... or 4 and 1/4 inches.

I'd been trying to work out, how the hell I could get the rear shocks in without stuffin 'em up through the floor.

Walked around the front of the car the other day, looked at the engine bay recess and thought.... fukk the floor.
The upper shock mounts in the boot, will be in the form of some 2 x 1 inch box steal, from side to side.
Quick trip to Gatton again for some nice new steal..... we're cookin brother.

Mounting to the frame rails, it will form another bracing bar in the rear end and a awesome little upper shock mount.

Can't say this was doing my head in, but it took a day for my to work it all out in my noggin.

My brain has liquid paper on it everywhere now.....  :'(
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 31, 2020, 05:59:28 AM
This is not how you finish a car on time.  :'(

I had to ring my mobile welder guy and put him off for a week.

He's now coming the weekend of the 16th and 17th.

Between trying to get my pool finished, i have a pair of strut tops to fit to the wife's Statesman.

Plus, setting up the rear end shocks and Shit and then taking the Zephyr back to a bare shell.
(I also need to make room to store all that crap that comes back off the car now too.)

I also have to modify the rotisserie to accept the Zephyr and make sure the little turd won't fall out of it.
There is also the right side chassis rail still to be cut and shaped.

I blame Shane for the whole sordid mess.

It all goes back to the day I said......

I'm thinking of bunging a turbo barra in a MK2 Zephyr.

He replied.....

I have the donor car for you.

What could I do, it was like a dare.
Put up or shut up springs to mind...... damn you Shane Hudson.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on December 31, 2020, 08:01:58 AM
Crank up the sound         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-Gn_m3lhw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-Gn_m3lhw)       ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 01, 2021, 01:22:17 PM
It seems simple enough.

Make two holes, slip shocks through hole, make bracket and bolt everything together.
Of course, the shocks have to pass through a 3 dimensional section of boot floor....yay.

So, even if this ol thing acts like a $50 hooker and squats its arse, kicks its legs in the air, there is no way it will squat more than 110mm. (4 and a 1/4 inches)
These shocks should work a treat on the car. (at 110mm travel in either direction, they better)

Keep in mind, I've bolted the shock mount in for the moment for ease of the in and out thing for a bit.
It will have an end plate welded on and be fully welded into the car.

Bolts and Shit are all the wrong ones for the moment..... mock up remember.  ;D

Now, the two big friggin holes around the shocks...... I have a plan.
Using some 3 and 1/2 inch exhaust tubing, we will weld into the floor, well..... two tubes.
Little bit like when guys do sunken radio aerials in a custom car.
The shocks will be sealed around the top of the tube with some whizz bang foam I have.
It came from inside the ol Falcon tonner tailshaft I cut up.

The car went back on its wheels today, loaded up with 40 litres of fuel, a spare tyre, a battery and some other crap.
It even scored a chrome rear bumper bar this week.
I now have the slider plates spot on ready for a tack weld tomorrow morning.

A few more days, and the mockup is complete and the car can be stripped down to a bare shell.





Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 01, 2021, 01:33:17 PM
Heaps of clearance between the tyre and spring.....  8)

If you look to the right of the engine, i have a half circle marked out.
As soon as the engine is out, I need to scallop that out to allow room for the plenum intake set up.

I'm using 5 inch exhaust pipe for a truck to sort it.

I had the car nosed up to the roller door..... felt like giving it a shove so it could see some fresh air.
Going out is easy, not so much coming back in..... LOL.

Man, I am aching all over today..... I've been under this so many times in the last few days.

Getting down, i groan and moan and fart...... coming up, it just gets worse.  :-[ 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: nab on January 01, 2021, 08:40:00 PM
Geez the barra is a tall motor but it sits so low in the engine bay. Supercharger on top???????
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on January 01, 2021, 08:51:59 PM
Geez the barra is a tall motor but it sits so low in the engine bay. Supercharger on top???????

Turbo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on January 02, 2021, 12:13:17 AM
Escort turret rear shock kit, they come in square tube uprights aswel
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 02, 2021, 04:13:06 AM
Escort turret rear shock kit, they come in square tube uprights aswel

Yeah edz, a bit like that, but I'll make my own.

An 18 inch length of exhaust tubing is cheaper and if I fukk it up, there's plenty more at the muffler shop.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 02, 2021, 04:18:48 AM
Geez the barra is a tall motor but it sits so low in the engine bay. Supercharger on top???????

It will be a turbo, mounted low about the middle of the engine....... right where that bit of free real estate is with nothing in it.

I've hung the engine low to keep the weight down for the best handling and Shit like that.

The trade off, is the car need s good clearance under it for the back roads of drag challenge.
The last thing ya need, is to whop the sump on the road in the middle of bumfukk No-wheresville.
Plus, i'll need to clear the deep pan on the auto too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: nab on January 02, 2021, 10:07:25 PM
Turbo

It’s already got one of them, I’m talking about both 😈
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 03, 2021, 03:58:11 AM
It’s already got one of them, I’m talking about both 😈

There is a HT Kingswood in our bracket,
that has a supercharger off the side of the engine.
It also has a rear mount turbo tucked up the back.
It also ha a 200 shot of nitrous to get it off the line.

Owned by Juan Kudnig, pretty awesome set up. Has run 8:63 @ 159mph.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on January 03, 2021, 09:44:57 AM
It’s already got one of them, I’m talking about both 😈

Like the superturbo, but a bit more displacement. https://jalopnik.com/is-this-twincharged-nissan-the-most-forgotten-homologat-1653317711 (https://jalopnik.com/is-this-twincharged-nissan-the-most-forgotten-homologat-1653317711)

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 03, 2021, 03:25:45 PM
I started the mock today of the anti-roll bar for the diff. (Not a sway bar)

This thing has really nice precision mounting plates that get welded to the chassis rail each side.
Then, you bolt bearing housing to that. (all really nice gear)

Out of the bearing housing, you have a 2 inch bar from side to side.
Off that, are two wicked looking arms that end up welded to the main bar.

Off the end of those, are two heim jointed, fully adjustable rods that come down to the diff.
On the diff, we need to weld some brackets for the heim joints to connect to.

Gunna go pretty easy I think.
I can use a hole on each side rail, that was originally used for the lever action shocks.

A great reference point to ensure it all ends up square by the time i'm done.
Well, as square as these things were in 1959.

So, it works like this..... for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Because the engine spins clockwise, a car will launch in anger, trying to lift the left front wheel.
The anti-roll bar set up, counters that action of squatting the right rear harder than the left.

Once we have the triangulated traction bars in sync with the anti-roll bar set up..... look out.

Not sure if we will have the front wheels 2 inches in the air or 2 feet in the air on launch yet.
But the car will be sitting pretty level.....

Man oh man, I just can't wait for that first full run in anger.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on January 06, 2021, 02:30:18 PM
So in essence, it works like a counter balance = one side loads up and the opposite has equal pressure applied via a linkage/torsion bar?  ??? Is there a delayed period of reaction between the two or is it almost instant?  ???

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 06, 2021, 05:11:18 PM
So in essence, it works like a counter balance = one side loads up and the opposite has equal pressure applied via a linkage/torsion bar?  ??? Is there a delayed period of reaction between the two or is it almost instant?  ???

Foo

Almost instant. (with chassis connectors and such)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on January 07, 2021, 12:45:51 PM
 8)

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2021, 01:48:36 PM
Low klm Monaro... Only driven on weekends

how much ya think the mighty HT'll go for

https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/lot/80991528/holden-monaro-ht-ex-speedway?cpage=4&ipp=100 (https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/lot/80991528/holden-monaro-ht-ex-speedway?cpage=4&ipp=100)

(https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=6209669913&wid=&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=YD0t7wUCZUpIBGT7B9bqbY%2fnoZ%2f9osip)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 07, 2021, 03:06:02 PM
Most of that will buff out.

Some nutter will pay big money for it..... won't be me.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2021, 03:11:08 PM
Most of that will buff out.

Some nutter will pay big money for it..... won't be me.
1200 at moment.. i think its 1500 too much
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: doc evil on January 07, 2021, 03:49:41 PM
1200 at moment.. i think its 1500 too much

If the bones are solid and it still has the tags, it is worth a good dollar. There are people who can be rebuilt albeit with a mountain of work.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on January 07, 2021, 03:56:44 PM
If the bones are solid and it still has the tags, it is worth a good dollar. There are people who can be rebuilt albeit with a mountain of work.
think there maybe better things on offer at same office... :)

Over 17 Holden Toranas LJ-LC'S & Parts

https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/catalog/256260/saturday-16th-january/?cpage=4&ipp=100&q=380 (https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/catalog/256260/saturday-16th-january/?cpage=4&ipp=100&q=380)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 08, 2021, 11:18:43 AM
Well bugger me..... the mockup has now been completed.  :cup:

Took a tailshaft measurement this morning.
Did the tubes through the floor for the shocks.
Did a test of where I want the exhaust to run.

So, tomorrow, I start making space for all the bits to be stored for a bit.
Mowing on Sunday.....
Start stripping back to a bare shell on Monday and Tuesday.
Modify the rotisserie and make one small mod to the firewall with the engine out of it on wednesday.
Stick the car in the rotisserie on Thursday
Make the right side chassis rail on Friday.

Welder guy comes Saturday and Sunday.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on January 08, 2021, 01:06:34 PM
Kev when you get it back to bare metal, Go over it with this stuff or similar ..Some panel beaters / painters reckon once treated its been good with no surface rust on the metal, even up to 3 years later .. About $50 / 5ltr .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 08, 2021, 01:17:21 PM
Can't hurt huh.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on January 08, 2021, 01:21:28 PM
If the bones are solid and it still has the tags, it is worth a good dollar. There are people who can be rebuilt albeit with a mountain of work.
example - the HJ Ute
https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/lot/80991481/holden-hj-ute---good-running-order/?cpage=7&q=&ref=catalog (https://yarravalleyauctions.hibid.com/lot/80991481/holden-hj-ute---good-running-order/?cpage=7&q=&ref=catalog)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: nab on January 09, 2021, 12:10:12 AM
There was an old bloke selling his identical Ute over here. Had it for $15k, he just finished “restoring” it and looked fantastic from 20ft. Up close it was terrible, cheap Chinese tyres, more bog than a sewer plant, that yellow Monaro had less rust...

Buyer beware
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DandyD on January 09, 2021, 07:30:44 AM
Kev when you get it back to bare metal, Go over it with this stuff or similar ..Some panel beaters / painters reckon once treated its been good with no surface rust on the metal, even up to 3 years later .. About $50 / 5ltr .

That's probably just dilute phosphoric acid. I made an extra bed support for our camper over 15 years ago out of mild steel tube and wiped that all over it. I never fitted it, but it's stayed rust free in storage.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 10, 2021, 04:07:19 AM
The mock up was completed by Friday afternoon. YAAAAY.
I'm liking the pipes..... Single 3 and a half inch to up and over the diff.
Then twin 3 and half inch tail pipes.
Keeps the car balanced and symmetrical to look at.

The car has already begun the strip down to a bare shell process now.

My welder guy will be on site, 6am next Saturday.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 11, 2021, 01:14:35 PM
doesn't look like this anymore.

Pulled my tranny first to see how hard it was...... piss easy, out in a flash and on the floor.
Pulled the engine, with the flex plate off............. piss easy, out in a flash and on the floor.

Pulled the entire front sheet metal as well..... cars looking unloved now.

I do like the tucked in look of the rear wheels here though.
The fronts with the Nissan end, fill the guards up nicely.

Went and got all the bolts and Shit for the rotisserie this morning as well..... not long now.

Arrrch, had to do a bit of mowing as well..... i'm a bit buggered now.

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Post by: Aussie Iron on January 11, 2021, 05:35:51 PM
So what temp are we looking at when the car is going round on the rotisserie.

Dan.
LOOKING GOOD.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on January 11, 2021, 07:55:09 PM
I would thing it should be low and slow. Something that old, would need to be well tenderised before going on a rotisserie. ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on January 11, 2021, 11:14:59 PM
Looking good, think I actually prefer to look with the mismatched panels etc, even more sleeper that way.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 12, 2021, 05:07:04 AM
Looking good, think I actually prefer to look with the mismatched panels etc, even more sleeper that way.

I did consider it briefly..... could have it on the road in maybe 3 months that way..... and cheaper.

But, I bitch slapped myself and got back to the original plan.

Today is...... doors off, seats out, steering column out, booster and M.C. off and the rear bumper off.
Then i'll cut and modify the cradle mounts (sounds like a place in tassie) to get the car spinning.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 12, 2021, 12:33:05 PM
Oh man.... i'm stuffed.

Everything is previous post done.
Cradle mounted on one end.
Old stuff, doors, seats and Shit all put away.

Geez, did I mention i'm stuffed.....  cause I am.
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Post by: #jonesy on January 12, 2021, 02:52:47 PM
Coming along well. I like the shopping lists on the back window
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 15, 2021, 01:47:23 PM
Like meatloaf through a straw, so too, are the days of our lives.

OH BUGGER, I've canned the welding for tomorrow cause i'm friggin hopeless.

By the time I got the "don't rock the cradle" set up, I've lost so much time huh.
So, we're down for next Saturday now.....  :'(

A handful of bolts and the remaining parts of the diff are out and the car is just a shell.
But with so much Shit to prep ready for Ben to just get stuck in, it was a no brainer.

Plus, we're down for 38 degree day tomorrow too.

So, little to report that is good news..... but... we are moving forward.... I think.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 15, 2021, 03:09:50 PM
Oh baby...... I got a sneak peek at the exhaust manifold this afternoon.  ;)

Only tacked and spot welded for a test, but looks pretty dang cool..... KQQL 59
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on January 15, 2021, 03:41:19 PM
So chatting with a lady from work who has some old HR's and hot rods (and hubby owns this I believe https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/survivor-1971-cfs-bedford-van-the-judge (https://www.whichcar.com.au/features/survivor-1971-cfs-bedford-van-the-judge)) etc.. she was saying you cant get full rego on older cars anymore unless they meet current regs - airbags, retracting seatbelts, disc brakes, and more..
Thus why so many are on club rego, and those on full rego are so expensive. True?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 15, 2021, 04:43:48 PM
different rules in every state mate.

Ours will go through with the engineering guy and get a tick of approval and a mod plate.

Bit like using a private certifier when doing a shed or an add on to the house type of thing.

S.A. for a lot of years, were really whacky on LHD cars.
If had anything aftermarket, even as little as a later radio or paint colour, no rego for you.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 17, 2021, 02:49:28 PM

What a difference a week makes.
 Now, if anyone reads my posts, you'd know we should've been welding the body yesterday.
 I just couldn't manage to get everything done in time.
 It's next Saturday now.

Stripped the ol Zephyr down till it was a tad naked.
 Now, stripping is one thing,putting everything away and out of the way, that's another story.
 With the flexplate off, the engine is a good fit in and out now.
 I would've had a good 14 of clearence to play with.
 I'll wrap the engine in some foam when it goes back in for the final time.

Managed to work out how the ol rack went together.
 Found the back crossbar was miles too short.
 Then found the keel bar was way too short as well.
 But it went together ok in the end and it even turns. YAAAY.
 Big shout out to my mate Dave Reeves for the lend of it.

Shane weaved his magic and knocked up the exhuast manifold for a test fit.
 This was the second go at it sort of, the 1st attempt just wouldn't be able to deliver an honest 1,000HP at the flywheel.
 Once i have done the test fit of it and all that crap, Shane will cut loose with the MIG and do a number on it for me.

All in all, not a bad week.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 17, 2021, 02:50:58 PM
and some more....
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Post by: tryagain on January 17, 2021, 03:44:25 PM
A lot of time effort there.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 17, 2021, 04:05:16 PM
A lot of time effort there.

He's pretty fast, even his thong left a wheelie mark.

Shane is a guru..... no ifs, no buts, no coconuts.  :cup:
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Post by: S.W on January 17, 2021, 05:23:49 PM
Looking good Kev.

And kudos to Shane too. That exhaust manifold is a work of art in the making.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on January 18, 2021, 12:02:00 AM
He's pretty fast, even his thong left a wheelie mark.

Shane is a guru..... no ifs, no buts, no coconuts.  :cup:

I was meaning you ya numpty.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 18, 2021, 04:04:05 AM
I was meaning you ya numpty.

WHO.... me..... LOL.

Yeah, i guess I have put in some effort over the last week....  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 19, 2021, 02:40:57 PM
I'm powering through the stuff to be ready for Saturday.

Yesterday and today have been wicked days....... however.

There is a cost for everything.

1. I can barely walk, as my right knee is crippling me at the moment.
2. My back is aching, I have to sit down to pull my undies and shorts on.
3. The left shoulder is shot to Shit.
4. My friggin toe nails have been turning a really bad shade of yellow.

Panadol rapid has been masking the first 3, but I spoke to the doc on why my toe nails were going yellow.

Turned out to be nothing much in the end, just poor flow from the bladder and down ol Mr. Wobbly.
If I keep him clamped until my eyeballs are about to pop, then let him go, I can still hit the box trailer from the shed roller door.
I decided to stop wearing thongs and throw some boots on, its easier on my eye balls.
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Post by: edz on January 19, 2021, 02:52:35 PM
Atleast you would have been  keeping the Tinea away, The stink would have been a bit on the Bugle though  ! 
Now ya boots will fill up and ya feet will go all wrinkly      Ohhh and yellow ..   ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 21, 2021, 04:46:52 AM
I had a talk to a mate yesterday who lives 300klm away.

Ummm, hey Noel..... you interested in blowing some 2 pack over the underside and engine bay of the Zephyr?

Yeah Kev, was going to come out and visit you soon anyway...... of course i'll do the paint for you.

Excellent.... m maybe in 4 or 5 weeks?

You tell me when, i'll be there with spray gun and compressor.

You want me to paint the whole car for you.......

Yes please.  :cup:

This is the Austin he did for me about 20 months ago.
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Post by: Bird on January 21, 2021, 10:11:05 AM
Not sure if your on stalkerbook or not kev  but this group sounds interesting

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1652252048396589 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1652252048396589)

Farm Wrecks, Rusty Relics & pre 1980 Car Sales Australia
Private group
134.0K members


Here are a couple rules and tips:
* Group is for pre 1980 and below, 1980 is the bubble and will be accepted, cars can be posted without a price only if they are not for sale, any for sale cars or parts must have a price, not offers or EOI, the group is not to be used as a highest bidder wins. This group is unlike others that have 'rusty' in their name but then allow a 2010 Kia to be posted, this group sticks to what it is set out to achieve.

* some parts will be accepted to be posted as long as they are original parts but wheels, tyres, electrics and aftermarket parts will be deleted. If you have multiple parts, please put them in one post, not several individual posts.

* If you are requesting to join, please note if your profile is blank or blocked from being able to see you will be declined, If you are genuinely wanting to join then this shouldn't be a problem. I am not one to just approve anyone that wants to join like other groups do to make up the numbers. Good luck with the spammers they have let in and I can tell you most large groups just approve everyone including trolls/spammers. I see when approving which other groups they are members of.

* This is not a place to advertise businesses without admin approval as that would then flood the group with business posts, however businesses can reply to questions asked. First time a business will have the post removed, second time will have you removed. Links to upcoming clearing sales allowed. Links to active auctions on cars like Ebay will also be removed.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 21, 2021, 10:59:06 AM
Thanks for that, but yeah, already a member on there. ;D

Not buying anything for a while now..... too much money to spent on the ol Zcar at the moment.  :'(
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 21, 2021, 02:16:03 PM
I had a mate over today, to release the locking pins while I took the weight of the car on the rotisserie.

The pins are pretty thick, but are drilled with a secondary pin arrangement to hold the compression spring to locate it.

I take the weight, Adrian drops the first pin, then pulls the second pin.

As I begin to ease the car around, he says, this pin is nearly broken through.
Right where they are drilled..... taking a 7/16 pin to about a 1/4 inch pin.

FAAAAAARRRRKKK.

So, I place the car in the "normal Position" and sure enough, one pin, slight bend, the other pin.... pretty rooted.

The long and short of it, it now has 7/16 bolts in place with a secondary bolt through another portion of the rotating device.

The car is back up in the air again, but the other way around now.

Lucky we found it, poor bloody welder guy would've got slammed if the thing had failed.
The old Zephyr would've been swinging like crazy.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 23, 2021, 05:14:09 PM
Holy Shit..... we finished just shy of 10 hours of welding on the ol girl.

Man o man..... i'm stuffed.... the 2 of us went hard at it.

We do have a perimeter chassis now, along with a host of other stuff all welded up. :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2021, 05:57:30 AM
I'll put some pics up later, but we achieved this yesterday.

Seam welded the front rails.
All the Nissan front end mounting plates.
All the engine mounting plates.
Maybe 40 or so engine bay holes that aren't required.
We finished the upper portion of the firewall.
The recess for the intake manifold was done.
The 2 main portions of the rails. (big job on its own right there)
The 2 smaller portions at the back of the sills.
The handbrake mount plate.
The seat mounting plates.
A small rust spot the size of  20 cent piece in the floor.
A small rust spot in the left back quarter.
The rear shock mount bar in the boot.
The 2 tubes the shocks pass through.
The 2 rear spring sliders.
The 2 anti roll bar mounts.
The 2 drop down adjusters.
The 2 arms on the main bar.
The 2 tabs on the diff housing for the drop downs.
And anything I've forgotten......  ???

We did slightly bend the 2 locating bolts I was using in the rotisserie.
They got replaced with even stronger bolts at one point.
The car was placed in some very un-natural positions during the day.

I was final trimming Shit, making bits, and general dogs body all day.
Between the two of us, we would've injected a combined 16 hours easy of work during the day.

I'm feeling pretty good this morning, but just gunna have a easy day today.

Maybe spent an hour or so having a clean up in the shed and just knock over a couple of hours of mowing

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
Pic 1. Standard sill/chassis rail.

Pic 2. Getting everything ready to rock and roll.

Pic 3. New rail tacked into place.

Pic 4. My sneaky scallop treatment to get a manifold to slip in there.

Pic 5. Some of the engine bay welding.

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Post by: Foo on January 24, 2021, 11:10:04 AM
Dumb question time.  :-[ What's the yellow tape for, holding in place or what?  ???

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2021, 11:12:29 AM
It works out to just on 25 feet of welding, just to do the main rails.
I counted the holes this morning, 45 engine bay holes are now goneski.
Just a couple of random pics.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2021, 11:14:34 AM
Dumb question time.  :-[ What's the yellow tape for, holding in place or what?  ???

Foo

Depending on where it is, it means,
don't weld this hole.
Cut to this spot only.
It has markings, IE: left side rail, part b.
Don't weld past this point....  as in the 5th pic of the first few.

So no, not a dumb question at all.
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Post by: Foo on January 24, 2021, 11:34:54 AM
Thanks, that makes sense.  ;D

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 24, 2021, 12:05:04 PM
Thanks, that makes sense.  ;D

Foo

Does to me too....  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Clevohead on January 28, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
Maybe spent an hour or so having a clean up in the shed and just knock over a couple of hours of mowing

An old hot rodder once told me

"On any project, get in the shed for at least 1 hour a day, even if you just clean up it is achieving something, and it will make you keen to just to get in and make a mess again, or you will find some part/tool you have been looking for the last few days."

I try and apply this to my projects and managed to finish my old Cortina with this mantra ;)

Loving watching this build, keep up the good work :)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on January 29, 2021, 05:14:22 AM
Yeah, every single day, I do something to the car towards getting it finished.

It was the same when I did the 302 Windsor into the Datsun 1200.

It can be a bit mind numbing from time to time...... but I just keep pushing forward.
The reward is getting to drive the little turds.

When I finished the 1200, we ran it around for 3 weeks on the street, then entered in a major meet at Willowbank.
The car was built, with the thought, we should be able to go mid 11's. (this was back in 1992)

We ran an 11:51 @ 120.9 mph.  ;D at that very first meeting for it.

Hmmm, that was pretty easy.  :cup: (On a 205/50x 13 radial too)
We went on to a best of 10:61 @ 130.18 mph within a year. (I'd stepped up to a massive 215/50 x 13 by then)

One of a couple of cars to have purge lines on the nitrous.
If I did this next to you at the lights in a street race, you were in for a whole heap of hurt.

The Zephyr won't be street raced however, too much has changed since those wild days.

Pic 1. If gunna chuck a skid, make it a good one. (The car isn't much bigger than the quad bike)

Pic 2. Up against J.B. for a qualifier here. (He wasn't much faster than me either)

Pic 3. The old nitrous purge, 950 psi of gas through twin lines..... always the poser.

Pic 4. Winternationals 94, contingency stickers on board for the products we used.
          It was worth $100 a pop if you were winner or runner up.
          All the stickers came off for the drive home.  :angel:
          No point in attracting Mr.  :police:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 02, 2021, 05:07:30 AM
Stuff me sideways.

Rang the dustless blasters yesterday regarding the engine bay and undercarriage clean back to bare metal.

Oh mate, around the $1,100 region. ($250 per hour)
Seemed a lot to me.  ???

I have a 3,200psi pressure washer here, so rang spitwater. (because, that's what it does)  ;D
I can get a new lance for $250 and $250 worth of crushed glass would kill the job.

Rang Shane, how did you do yours?
By hand, was a Shit job.
I'm thinking of wet blasting the Z car.
You'll end up with rust in the thing in the most odd places.
and.... glass has silica, so the paint won't stick.
Use garnet and do it dry.

so, now it looks like we are doing it dry and making a friggin mess.


Stuff me..... i'm down to Plan G now.
I just want milk that tastes like real milk.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Clevohead on February 02, 2021, 08:35:25 AM
Stuff me sideways.

Rang the dustless blasters yesterday regarding the engine bay and undercarriage clean back to bare metal.

Oh mate, around the $1,100 region. ($250 per hour)
Seemed a lot to me.  ???

I have a 3,200psi pressure washer here, so rang spitwater. (because, that's what it does)  ;D
I can get a new lance for $250 and $250 worth of crushed glass would kill the job.

Rang Shane, how did you do yours?
By hand, was a Shit job.
I'm thinking of wet blasting the Z car.
You'll end up with rust in the thing in the most odd places.
and.... glass has silica, so the paint won't stick.
Use garnet and do it dry.

so, now it looks like we are doing it dry and making a friggin mess.


Stuff me..... i'm down to Plan G now.
I just want milk that tastes like real milk.

No portable soda blasters in your area?
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Post by: Bird on February 02, 2021, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Rang the dustless blasters yesterday regarding the engine bay and undercarriage clean back to bare metal.
Oh mate, around the $1,100 region. ($250 per hour)
Seemed a lot to me.  ???


Your going to all this effort, do it once do it right
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 02, 2021, 08:52:21 AM

Your going to all this effort, do it once do it right

The trouble with this is, it will leave wet residue in silly spots.

Trying to suss a dry system now.

Even if I do the little turd by hand, it will be gleaming by the time i'm done.
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Post by: edz on February 02, 2021, 08:58:47 AM
Dont be a Sook ..Turn it on its side and go over it with a good brush on of Chemstrip / cover it with news paper let it go flakey.  Scrape the bulk off and hit it with a 3m scouring pad on a 9" sander / grinder ..
Leaves the metal all nice Smooth and keyed for the Etch primer / sealer ..  Would be done in a day .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 02, 2021, 09:02:38 AM
The old underbody sealer would bugger that in about 2 minutes.

I'll get there, looking at Plan W. now.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on February 02, 2021, 09:26:00 AM
Dont be a Sook ..Turn it on its side and go over it with a good brush on of Chemstrip / cover it with news paper let it go flakey.  Scrape the bulk off and hit it with a 3m scouring pad on a 9" sander / grinder ..
Leaves the metal all nice Smooth and keyed for the Etch primer / sealer ..  Would be done in a day .
I use glad wrap, makes it work better.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 02, 2021, 09:50:15 AM
I'm going to wheel it outside for the stripping when I do it.
Hopefully, in about 10 days time.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 04, 2021, 02:22:24 PM
After pissing around like mad woman all week.  ???

I'm buying a good sand blasting unit for $175.00 from Trade tools.
I'm getting 2 x 15 kg buckets of garnet to use dry.
I'm going to try my own compressor first and see if it can handle it.
If not, Kennards in Ipswich have a unit big enough for $82.00 for 24hours.
If I run outta time, i'll scam it for another 24 hours.

I'm going to jam bits of rubber fuel line into any drainage holes on the car to try and limit the Shit getting inside the rails and crap.
I've got my welder guy coming Monday, so I can finally get the skyline tower tops grafted into the Zephyr towers.

I've got a bit steel in my right eye, and after 2 days now, its pissing me off.
Luckily, I only have around 20% vision in that eye anyway.....how bad can it be.

Painter mate is on standby for the undercarriage paint work to be done.

Off to Shane's tomorrow..... 200klm round trip in the Fleetwood.... can't wait.  8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on February 04, 2021, 08:17:26 PM
Lay sheets of builders plastic  under the Hulk to catch the sand / sieve and recycle ..  Good luck with it young fella  ;D ;D 
Took a day to do half the roof of my 2dr Escort, Till I got the Shits with it and went the stripper / 3m pad way .
You may be luckier as the underbody paint might have been put on a lot  thinner ..
Dont forget the Phos kleen to wipe over the bare metal to stop it rusting . :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: bmwfreak on February 04, 2021, 08:53:40 PM
If not, Kennards in Ipswich have a unit big enough for $82.00 for 24hours.
If I run outta time, i'll scam it for another 24 hours.



Check their return policy if you hire late Friday or Saturday (depends on whether your local branch opens on Saturday). I think we managed to keep a post hole digger for the full weekend due to the day and the time we hired it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2021, 04:13:49 AM
I'll check the return thingy.... might score some free hours.

Yes Edz, I have a 9m x 9m tarp to go under it.
The ol girl has her own woodworking room these days, so she will knock up the sieve for me.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on February 05, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
After pissing around like mad woman all week.  ???

I'm buying a good sand blasting unit for $175.00 from Trade tools.
I'm getting 2 x 15 kg buckets of garnet to use dry.
I'm going to try my own compressor first and see if it can handle it.
If not, Kennards in Ipswich have a unit big enough for $82.00 for 24hours.
If I run outta time, i'll scam it for another 24 hours.

I'm going to jam bits of rubber fuel line into any drainage holes on the car to try and limit the Shit getting inside the rails and crap.
I've got my welder guy coming Monday, so I can finally get the skyline tower tops grafted into the Zephyr towers.

You live streaming the event on Youtube???   :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 05, 2021, 01:21:34 PM
ha ha ha.... maybe I should.

Hmmm, Shane showed me a mid 60's Nova he has there with a black underside.
Its a pretty trick finish..... thinking we might end up black underneath now in place of the body colour.

All sorts of goodies came home today..... ya gotta love him.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2021, 05:24:37 PM
Couple of close up shots of the chassis rails.

And of course, a trip to the HPEngines House of Horsepower on Friday saw me come home with an armful of goodies.
 The turbo is just a loaner for me to use to set Shit up.
 Ours will be s slightly bigger one than this.

Looks like the engine will go back in the car next weekend for some checks for clearence etc and allow a "bit extra".

Even though the manifold is only spotted and tacked together for the moment, i tell ya, Shit it looks good to me.
 Shane's put a huge effort into it, thats for sure
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 08, 2021, 05:25:35 PM
and.... 2 more.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 09, 2021, 04:28:45 AM
We did have one fairly major set back yesterday too.

I shelled out $7,800 for a new mower. (Husqvarna TS 354)
I needed to spent that money right now like I need another sore eye.

The old mower, designed to last around 1,000 to 1,100 hours, has 1,450 hours on it.
An its just plain old worn out.....  :'(

At least with the new one, I go from a 42 inch cut to a 54 inch cut and the seat has armrests and cup holder.   :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 21, 2021, 05:43:46 AM
Well bugger me......

After a dodgy eye with steel in it and then a decent whack of man-flu, we are back into it again.

Still feeling Shithouse, but the work must go on.

After consulting with my welding guy during the week..... he was impressed with my plan.  ;D
I've now finished the tower top adaptors for the Nissan to Ford marriage of the struts.

They'll be dropped off this morning for him to weld the Shit outta them.

I knew i'd get the last part of the Nissan puzzle to work, even if it killed me.

Next week, we should start to see some steady progress again. yaaay.
 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 26, 2021, 06:15:57 AM
I picked up the strut adaptors yesterday.....yaaaay.

The Nissan front end, for the bulk of it, is a bolt in thing I was originally told..... well, it is....sort of.

The problem however, is the struts are 85mm too short to reach the Zephyr mounting points.
The other problem, is on a MK2, the struts need to "lay in a tad" due to the wider track.

Not so, on a MK3 it seems, as they have a slightly wider track.

I had a look at Lance's MK3 ages ago..... would his way work ok.
The old strut, had been drilled, a thread taped inside, then another piece, turned down, the thread cut and screwed together.
Then fully welded and pretty bloody solid too.
Looked ok, that portion of the strut never reaches the seal and crap and will work.

I also got a look at a similar thing on a MK2, that was done using Commodore inserts  and Shit like that.
All done, to make the strut reach the tower top.

If the strut won't go to the mount, lower the mount was my idea.

Between myself and Ben my welder guy, we have fabricated a tricky little 85mm adaptor.
It simply bolts to the Nissan strut and bolts to the Zephyr tower top.

By some clever use of plates and angles, we have stock Nissan Skyline struts straight in there.
In the final fit up, it will have a set of fully adjustable plates for full camber and castor adjustments.

Today, i'll do a little bit of dressing on the adaptors, then turf 'em in there.
Then, i'm making a secondary lateral mount on each side of the adaptor to the tower tops.

The adaptors are located then, by 5 mounting points.
Later on, a tower to tower brace will be fitted with heim joints and Shit.
The Nissan cross member ties the chassis rails together at bottom.
The way I did the engine mounts and crap, also doubles as a cross brace of sorts when combined with the engine.
Add to that the tower to tower brace, its as strong as its ever going to be I think.

I have had to cut a mailbox slot in each inner guard panel, to allow access to adjust the alignment plates.
Undo 4 bolts, pop the covers off and there is everything you need to do an alignment.
These covers will be polished alloy with a rubber seal to seal off the engine bay from road spray/dirt/water and rocks.

Pretty epic job this, there was no way possible, I would call the R31 front end, a bolt in fit..... until now.

Might be a photo or two later on.

Then, its throw the engine back in for a couple of days, TURBO fitment check time, then back out again.

I tell ya, the number of nights I was awake at 1am thinking on how best to do the adaptors for the front end.
Trying to mull out in my noggin, every aspect of possible failure that could occur.

Yes, I think I have built a better mouse trap.
Yes, I will drive really nice on a 30 year newer style/design of front end with the benefit of a power rack.
Yes, if it happens, I believe the front end can survive a fairly epic wheelstand should it occur.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 26, 2021, 12:36:14 PM
The left hand side is good to rock and roll.

Threads cut, crush tubes fitted, just needs a splash of paint.
Pretty time consuming today, trying to get the position of the bolts holes spot on.
Then, fit one crush tube for test fit, trim, fit, trim and bingo.
Spot weld in place, then start on number 2.
Number 2 isn't welded in, it can just be placed in as its required.
If I per-weld both, the adaptor wouldn't fit the hole.
Then do a full weld on tube #1.
I do need to pick up some nice fresh bolts tomorrow too.

For those that are interested.....

The top and bottom plates were cut from 5mm thick sheet steel.
The tube portion, 100mm diameter black steel pipe with a 6mm wall thickness.

With 5 and 6 mm to play with, Ben could really pour the welds in too.

These bits, aren't just welded together however.

Where the tube meets the top plate, the tube has a tapered cut of 10mm running towards the engine bay.
This kicks the tube to meet the Nissan hardware.
However, on the bottom of the tube, to gain the angle of the dangle.
The bottom end of the tube, is also trimmed at an angle, this time,
It gets a cut with a taper of 15mm.

It took some planning and my abacus got a workout.
Lucky for me, all those years at school paid off and after all, 4 + 4 = 9...... and that will never change.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on February 26, 2021, 01:17:08 PM
Always need to have a plan B in place or make a plan B.  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on February 26, 2021, 10:31:37 PM
The left hand side is good to rock and roll.

Threads cut, crush tubes fitted, just needs a splash of paint.
Pretty time consuming today, trying to get the position of the bolts holes spot on.
Then, fit one crush tube for test fit, trim, fit, trim and bingo.
Spot weld in place, then start on number 2.
Number 2 isn't welded in, it can just be placed in as its required.
If I per-weld both, the adaptor wouldn't fit the hole.
Then do a full weld on tube #1.
I do need to pick up some nice fresh bolts tomorrow too.

For those that are interested.....

The top and bottom plates were cut from 5mm thick sheet steel.
The tube portion, 100mm diameter black steel pipe with a 6mm wall thickness.

With 5 and 6 mm to play with, Ben could really pour the welds in too.

These bits, aren't just welded together however.

Where the tube meets the top plate, the tube has a tapered cut of 10mm running towards the engine bay.
This kicks the tube to meet the Nissan hardware.
However, on the bottom of the tube, to gain the angle of the dangle.
The bottom end of the tube, is also trimmed at an angle, this time,
It gets a cut with a taper of 15mm.

It took some planning and my abacus got a workout.
Lucky for me, all those years at school paid off and after all, 4 + 4 = 9...... and that will never change.
I always thought it was 7, is that why things always short. ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on February 27, 2021, 08:40:17 AM
Gotta love good welding, ay! I can't even solder neatly. >:(
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 27, 2021, 11:57:14 AM
Next Friday at 1pm..... it's all on the line. LOL.

The engineering guy is booked for his first inspection in our effort for full rego and the Shit that goes with it.

I could just sneak it through on a mod plate.....

But, with an engineers ticket, takes the car a whole new level.
Makes it worth more too, should we ever choose to sell it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on February 27, 2021, 12:11:07 PM
Good tea / Coffee and quality bikkies or a nice cold drink helps a bit too  ;D  ..  10 mm feeler gauge for steering shaft component clearances  ;) .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2021, 12:23:27 PM
Next Friday at 1pm..... it's all on the line. LOL.

(https://i.imgflip.com/4028ym.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 27, 2021, 12:33:44 PM
I hope  the inspector has big pockets......

Because i'll be pissing in them.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on February 27, 2021, 12:38:50 PM
I hope  the inspector has big pockets......

Because i'll be pissing in them.  ;D
(https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/32/32858a3c5e240280136d80ec6889d363.jpeg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on February 27, 2021, 12:58:41 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 05, 2021, 03:19:14 PM
Apparently...... i'm not as stoopid as i look.

I got the official "oaky doky" to continue.

He was here for 2 hours......  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: moeite on March 05, 2021, 03:29:26 PM
Apparently...... i'm not as stoopid as i look.

I got the official "oaky doky" to continue.

He was here for 2 hours......  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
 :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel: :angel:

Good work, that man !  :cheers: :cheers:
I'm REALLY hanging out to see pics of the finished product.  :D :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 06, 2021, 04:36:20 AM
I tell ya what, it was a pretty thorough inspection that took place.

I covered every aspect of the build and held back nothing as far as my intentions were concerned.

He loved my chassis rail kit i'd made.  :cup:
I carefully explained the spring sliders for the car.
He wanted to know why i wanted to use them.
After explaining to him, he agreed with me 100%. 

HP figures came into it.
I explained, we only plan on around 3 or 400 for the street.
He's aware, we will kick that to a 1,000hp on race days.
That should be pretty easy with a turbo barra was the reply.  ;D

Christ, we even got down to needing to fit 2 child restraint points in the back.
To be kosher, we only need to have the holes there in the correct spots of course.

The front suspension was pretty funny.....
I'd gone to a fair bit of work, to design and build the strut tower adaptors.
My welding guy took care of the welding of course, but i had made them and also tacked them together and Shit like that.
He was fairly impressed.
I offered to remove one to show him.
No need he said, i can see everything i need to see right here.
But i spent ages working these out correctly...... i'll only take a few bolts, i can have one out in no time.
No, all good... no need.
Oh Fukk ya...... but... but....
No.... its all good.  :'(

So, we can push forward now, at building an 8 second, fully engineered, 1,000hp MK2 Zephyr to street drive and race.

I'm having the weekend off now, just because i can.

I might give the Fleetwood a bubble bath today and quick suck with the vacuum cleaner.

Ha ha ha.... i'm feeling pretty good huh, Ya Wouldn't be Dead for Quids.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on March 06, 2021, 06:44:36 AM
good to see all ya planning is coming together Kev  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Steffo1 on March 06, 2021, 08:50:30 AM
What a feeling! That must have been a huge relief!   :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GGV8Cruza on March 06, 2021, 04:17:02 PM
Great work Kev, keep the momentum going, it's an enjoyable read

GG

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 06, 2021, 08:36:25 PM
Good stuff.  8)

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: grc on March 07, 2021, 08:27:38 AM
 
  Well done on all the hard work you have put in ( and others)


      CHEERS GRC  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 08, 2021, 03:52:00 PM
Thanks guys.....

After about a million steps forward, today was a 2 steps backwards sort of day.

The engine went back in this morning.

Shane's you beaut manifold mock up was up for a bona fide test fit.
It told me a couple of things....
1. My left shoulder is a bit shot to hell.
2. I can still read a ruler/tape measure.
3. Shane can read my scribble.

It fits pretty good huh.

Had a few hours off to fix a bit of a plumbing issue i had..... sorted it out, just took me 3 times the time it would for a plumber to do it.

The ol Wuhan whistle test turbo gets a test fit tomorrow.

With any luck, the ol barra will be out again before weeks end and i can start getting the firewall welding cleaned up.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: bmwfreak on March 08, 2021, 06:24:49 PM
Had a few hours off to fix a bit of a plumbing issue i had..... sorted it out, just took me 3 times the time it would for a plumber to do it.

I wouldn’t bet on that these days. The guys who did some work on our place were sh1t hot with the silicone gun but most of the other things they played with they broke and had to fix (cut through a gas line while installing a tempering valve on our instantaneous gas hot water system), or just did a dogs body job. The pedestal basins in our en-suite are a ‘good’ example of their work. This pipe went into an inline trap, and because they had to centre the pipe for the pedestal they just installed at an angle and siliconed it, top and bottom. Note third photo after I fixed it and what it took to fix.

Edit: to fix photo orientation
Edit 2: nothing works?? I can’t turn em to upload correctly. Use your imagination :D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 09, 2021, 03:45:59 AM
I feel a bit better about myself now.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2021, 10:29:14 AM
We hit our first small hurdle yesterday with the engineering guy.

He rang me up and said..... "ya cars too light, you have to find some weight"

Me.... Oh crap..... now ya tell me.

Him, don't Shit ya pants, you only need 50kg.

Me. what, the car will be heavier than standard anyway.

Him..... Kerb weight Kev..... standard motor car kerb weight, you need to find 50kg of accessories.

Me, (bit confused) i've gotta fukkin what?

Him, you need to find 50 kg of extras that was an option on the car from new, towbar, bull bar..... 50 Kev..... 5 fukkin 0.

Me, i'm on it boss.

I sent him this today at 9am and getting signed off by a Zephyr car club member who helped me with it.

External sunvisor with brackets............................... 8.0kg
Internal rear Venetians.......................................... 6.0kg
Reversing light, with bracket and wiring..................  0.9kg
Twin Spot Lights, relay and wiring........................... 2.1kg
Towbar, tongue and ball ....................................... 25.0kg
Rear wheel spats .................................................. 1.5kg.
Radio (valve with additional buzz box)...................... 5.5kg.
Heater, brackets, hoses and additional water cap..... 13.0 kg
Left and right door mirrors. (400g each)................... 0.8kg
Seat covers front and rear....................................... 2.0kg.
Rubber floor mats (front only)................................. 1.8kg

Total additional weight equals................................... 66.6kg.

Moving forward.......  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on March 11, 2021, 11:10:58 AM
Do the accessories have to be fitted, or just listed. 

Why does it need 50kg?  Is it lighter than the original?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on March 11, 2021, 11:30:37 AM
Sounds like your engineer is a good bastard  :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2021, 12:05:59 PM
Do the accessories have to be fitted, or just listed. 

Why does it need 50kg?  Is it lighter than the original?

No, the way it works is, there are a few factors that come into play jonesy.

If i went with an aspirated V8, i can go to 6.5lts based on the kerb weight.
There is a formula, but because i'm an idiot, i can't explain it easily.

THe engine we're using, is only 4 litres, but because we have a whizzer hanging off it, that changes a lot.

We don't have to fit the accessories, they just had to be an option at the time.
Funny enough, about half of them will be fitted though.

You see, at some point, Officer Dibble will want to see under the bonnet.
When he spots the turbo, we'll be be 100% legal and engineered, so he can't do Shit about it.

NZMarkb, my engineer is a good guy.  :cup:
He's thorough, but fair.

He also really likes what i'm doing..... so that helps a heap too.

The engine came back out of the car today as well.
I expect, it will go in and out again in around 5 weeks for a trip to Shane's House of Horsepower.

It will just be a single day trip and home again.

So far, it's only left my shed once for a 12 hour round trip  to.... you guessed it.... Shane's.


 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2021, 12:29:07 PM
Oh, the bit I've been pissing around with today.

If you look at pic one, you can see the two dirty big holes the fresh air goes into when you open the vents.
There is piece that bolts to the bulkhead to transfer the air forward and down.

Now, even though we are have A/C.....  i really need these to still work.

If you look at the second pic...... they're kind of goneski.

So, after getting some measurements to work off, i can make some here that will work.
It will end up with 2 new air holes, and a tad smaller as well, but i can play with this while the engine bay is in primer.

Qld. Tpt. folks, sort of like the car to have a fresh air set up of sorts.

Its far from an easy build, but hey, at 61 years of age, what else is there.

Oh sure, there's tennis, golf, Shit like that..... but that only requires one ball.
An 8 second street Zephyr...... maybe 2 required then.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on March 11, 2021, 12:58:21 PM
If you look at pic one,

bout bloody time too..... thought you'd lost your camera  >:D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2021, 01:07:06 PM
bout bloody time too..... thought you'd lost your camera  >:D

To be honest, there hasn't been a lot to take a pic of.

It worries me that too many pics spoil the broth...... is that right. ???

All the holes we welded up in the firewall are on their way to smooth now too, along with the new firewall sections and Shit.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 11, 2021, 04:59:15 PM
So you're saying that fresh air to the cab is a must but why would that matter, if you can wind a window down or turn a/c on?  ???

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 11, 2021, 05:01:02 PM
To be honest, there hasn't been a lot to take a pic of.

It worries me that too many pics spoil the broth...... is that right. ???

All the holes we welded up in the firewall are on their way to smooth now too, along with the new firewall sections and Shit.

A load of bullchit, show us the goods as it goes along.  :cheers:

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 11, 2021, 05:47:32 PM
So you're saying that fresh air to the cab is a must but why would that matter, if you can wind a window down or turn a/c on?  ???

Foo

The A/C unit will be n the back.
The fresh air side of things is for the windscreen demister and crap like that.
Same as, no one wants the window down in 5 degree temps, so you sort of need a way of pumping in fresh air.
The A/C has a fairly solid draw of air was well..... it has to come from somewhere.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 12, 2021, 06:04:05 AM
The A/C unit will be n the back.
The fresh air side of things is for the windscreen demister and crap like that.
Same as, no one wants the window down in 5 degree temps, so you sort of need a way of pumping in fresh air.
The A/C has a fairly solid draw of air was well..... it has to come from somewhere.

Well now it makes sense.  ;D

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 12, 2021, 01:44:55 PM
Back to a bare shell now.

I think, watching Ben weld up holes, was way easier than grinding them all flat.

The entire week coming, will be getting.....
The engine bay smooth.
Grinding and cleaning up a million welds and bits.
Some general trimming of any non required factory tags, bracket and clips.

I think, if i can get it all done, we might sand blast next weekend.
That will mean a trip to the sunny coast for some primers and Shit from Shane.

Bugger me, i never worked this hard when i worked.
I'm not sure, that retirement is all its cracked up to be.

Mind you, i did read this morning that some professor reckons.
If ya haven't got out of ya childhood by 60, then you don't have to...... i can work with that.

Off to Bris tomorrow to grab an industrial compressor off an old boss from the 80's.
I mentioned i was going to hire one to run the sandblaster.

He wouldn't hear of it...... demanded i use one of his...... he even serviced it this week for me.
I must've have been a reasonable employee  i suppose.  :D
 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 14, 2021, 06:12:23 AM
HOLY CRAP.......
I got this last night from my friendly engineering inspector.
****
The following sections relate to the modifications to your Zephyr.
Have a look through to make sure you are on the right track and call or email me with any questions.

Section LA engine, section 2 general requirements,
Section 4 Mandatory safety upgrades and Code LA2
Section LB transmission, section 2 general requirements,
Codes LB1 Transmission, LB2 Rear axle 
Section LG brakes, section 2 general requirements,
Codes LG1 Design, LG2 Construction.
For simplicity best to use a matched complete system for an equivalent weight vehicle.
Section LH body and chassis, section 2 general requirements,
 Codes LH5 Design, LH6 Construction. This will cover the chassis, firewall and suspension tower modifications.
Section LK seating and occupant protection,
Codes LK1 Seat and seat belt installation, LK2 Seat and seat belt anchorage, LK6 Child restraint anchorage,
Section 2 Rear parcel shelf anchorage, LK8 Internal 4 point roll cage.
Section LM fuel systems, section 2 general requirements,
See section 2.2 dot point 8 which indicates that fuel filler may be inside the vehicle. 
Section LS tyres, rims, suspension and steering, section 2 general requirements, section 4,
Codes LS3 and LS4 Front suspension and steering,
Codes LS5 and LS6 Rear suspension.

Happy reading
Regards
Kerry
******
Gunna plough through some coffee reading this lot, there is pages and pages of it..... ha ha ha..... but we'll get there.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 14, 2021, 09:33:43 AM
Looks like a real head fork to me.  :o

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 15, 2021, 01:07:45 PM
Looks like a real head fork to me.  :o

Foo

It is for someone like me who doesn't read the instructions first.
This is the first time i've ever built something to the letter of the law.

Shane's House of Horsepower sourced me a almost brand new Hurst ratchet shifter today.
Grand total of a $150...... BAAAAARGAIN.

Couple of downers though as well, weather is gunna hold sand blasting off by a week.  :'(

I also measured the seat mounting plates..... i'm a bee's dick under size on the 4 inner bucket seat mounts.

Rang the engineer.... do i have to cut these off and go again.

NO, i measured them a week ago..... as a qualified engineer and the fact they don't just go straight onto flat sheet.
They'll pass ok. YAAAAAAY

Mine are welded, where there is other boxed areas.... so all good.  PHEW.

Both inner guard panels are smooth now.
Will get a start on the firewall tomorrow.

The main front X member has now had the old Nissan engine mounts cut off and deleted.... weighed a ton too.

https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/159158872_786636812283778_2203947706336017936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=3ReBXvDqi7gAX--eal1&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=4e39217ff34e9793d7ec7fc493b69e4e&oe=6072B8D2              (https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/s2048x2048/159158872_786636812283778_2203947706336017936_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=3ReBXvDqi7gAX--eal1&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&tp=7&oh=4e39217ff34e9793d7ec7fc493b69e4e&oe=6072B8D2)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Clevohead on March 16, 2021, 08:30:58 AM
Nice score on the shifter, jeez I remember getting a dirty old base model B&M and paying more than that 15 years ago  :D

Can you flick the shift indicator strip and mechanism out and reverse it like you can on the B&M so the indicator is on the drivers side of the top cover?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 16, 2021, 09:33:46 AM
Nice score on the shifter, jeez I remember getting a dirty old base model B&M and paying more than that 15 years ago  :D

Can you flick the shift indicator strip and mechanism out and reverse it like you can on the B&M so the indicator is on the drivers side of the top cover?

I would think so.
We'll do something so it can be seen easily. ( i won't see it in the flesh until next Wednesday)

With Astrid driving it, (and me for that matter) being a manual auto, we may as well make it as use friendly as we can.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 04:51:37 AM
I needed to cut the old engine mount set up off the Nissan X member.

Sounds easy enough huh.

I trimmed them down to a set point, then made a paper template to box the remaining bit to look ok.

It was just gunna look crap.

So, over about 4 hours, I've very carefully trimmed about 98% off without touching the main X member itself.
This is a ton of weight off that serves no purpose by way of mounting anything or integrity of the part itself.

Not being totally satisfied with the X member construction for the intended purpose, its now ready for Ben the welder guy.

He will seam weld some key parts/portions of the X member so I'm happy to use it.

It's not poorly built or anything from Nissan, i just think, for the sake of some welds..... it can be better.
I reckon, combined, all the welding would add up to maybe 2 feet of welds.
That's going to weigh, maybe a couple of hundred grams and make the X member way stronger than Mr. Nissan ever intended.

You see, part of the engine mounts come off this X member.
When you "up" the HP from, maybe 200 or 250 to a 1,000......it can't be a bad thing.

To the average punter, the X member will just look like its had the mounts buzzed off.  :-[
This is some of the hardest stuff to do in so much as......
You spend friggin hours to achieve what no bastard can see.

The sand blasting is being set back every day now with the rain too.
Thank Christ i splurged a few weeks back and bought a new mower.
Didn't wanna spent $8,000 on a lawn mower, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do.
At least i know this one will get the job done.

They've announced that Drag Challenge for 2021 is the middle of October.
Not a friggin hope of making it for that.  :'(

Yeah, well, if we just boosted the old engine and ran it it as a rat rod style, yeah, we could.
But were not.

Imagine picture #1 in the colours of picture # 2.  8)
 

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on March 18, 2021, 10:31:32 AM
Here ya go Goobs    ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 10:40:29 AM
looks a bit odd..... really.  ???

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on March 18, 2021, 12:01:53 PM
Bit hard to show the body curve highlights and shadow lines with google paint and the fact Im lazy and rushed it . ;D ;D ;D Gives the average punter an idea though .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 12:21:31 PM
Bit hard to show the body curve highlights and shadow lines with google paint and the fact Im lazy and rushed it . ;D ;D ;D Gives the average punter an idea though .

Looks friggin terrible.... i think i'll pull the pin on the whole build if its going to look like that.

You've ruined my car...... you knuckle dragger.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on March 18, 2021, 12:34:59 PM
looks a bit odd..... really.  ???

Pick another colour....that green was NEVER a good colour.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 18, 2021, 01:48:54 PM
looks a bit odd..... really.  ???

As edz said, probably just as its a flat colour, not with the colour rendering to make it look real, that's a lot harder.

Quote
They've announced that Drag Challenge for 2021 is the middle of October.
Not a friggin hope of making it for that.  :'(

What if you run it without the paint job for this year, this year have it running, and for next year make it look pretty. Would have the advantage of having everything dialled before it was painted, and chances are there will be some changes needed once you start running and testing how everything works together.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 02:40:33 PM
No..... too much work to pull it apart again to paint.

It will come out finished and "nice'

Any changes will be minor after completion.

As Danny Glover says.... i'm getting too old for this Shit" to redo it after its running and rego'd.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 18, 2021, 03:51:30 PM
Any changes will be minor after completion.

As Danny Glover says.... i'm getting too old for this Shit" to redo it after its running and rego'd.

Famous last words, I'll wait until you are running low 9's but want to be in the 8's to see.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 04:01:28 PM
I'm hopeful we will licence with a 9:1 or 9:2 at our first track day.

Then, within a month or three, start tearing up some 8 second time slips.

We'll have the hardware on board to do it...... Time will tell of course.

Geez, it might end up the only 15 second Zephyr with a parachute.  :-[
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 04:11:56 PM
The really odd thing, is often, a very fast run doesn't feel... all that fast.

When we were running the 34 Ford, we'd run a handful of 8:0's at the previous meeting.
We arrived at the track, and headed around for our 1st qualifier.

I'd predicted, we'd go 7:77 @ 177mph.

It left well, and it felt fast, sort of.... but not silly fast.... it just went straight and did its thing.

I was in the pick up area when the crew arrived.

ME: So, did we run a 7.7.

Crew: NUP.

ME: oh Pisser. ???

We hooked up, and started towing back to the pits.

I opened the door (suicide doors) and stuck my head and bellowed.

ME: You sure we didn't go 7:7...it sort of felt good.

Crew: Not even close to a 7:7.

ME: so what did pile of Shit run?

Crew: 7:65 @ 174..... told ya it was nowhere near a 7:7.

ME: ya bunch of pricks.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on March 18, 2021, 04:52:22 PM
Ive found things generaly start to feel realy fast when things start going pear shaped ..  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Coolblue80 on March 18, 2021, 05:04:22 PM
Ive found things generaly start to feel realy fast when things start going pear shaped ..  ;D

In slow motion.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 18, 2021, 05:26:06 PM
In the 34, we did one run that crossed lanes, was way up on two wheels and was damn close to an up and over.

The most important thing is, just keep driving the car..... as in steer the bastard.

I dropped the chute ..... got back in my own lane and still ran an 8:10 @ about 50mph.

It was one run, that would've netted a low 7..... i'm talking 7'1's or 2's at worst.
It was also, my last run in the car, as it was my last meeting before moving away.

20 years ago now...... i should be great after that much break.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on March 18, 2021, 07:59:19 PM


20 years ago now...... i should be great after that much break.  ;D

Can you just rock up with a 2000hp car, zero skill as a driver and let loose on a track ? Or is there protocol to stop this ?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 19, 2021, 03:24:58 AM
Yeah.
Depending on the class and expected times.
You have to have a physical done beforehand.
You get to do a blindfold test for all safety gear, chute, fuel shut off etc
They usually make you do a burnout and launch only, then a half track pass, then full power pass.

There has been the odd idiot who has turned up in a fast streeter and let rip at a test n tune or street meet.

They get there marching orders pretty quickly.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 19, 2021, 04:48:27 PM
Oh well, the front X member and some other bits are at the welders now.

Another day, another heap of work got done.
All 47 odd engine bay holes we welded up are now all ground back.
Sounds easy, but some are in, some of the Shittiest spots.

Time to rotate the car soon and attack the trans tunnel and clean some welds.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 21, 2021, 02:16:05 PM
Couple of piccies.....

Been building/modifying the fresh air intake thingy.
Someone asked a few pages back whether it was required..... on reflection, i'm thinking NOT now.
 
Got my Shit back from Ben the welder guy today.
We fully welded the steering rack mounts, as the factory robot welds just didn't do it for me.
Once i had the old Nissan engine mounts off, while it was tempting just to leave the X member at that.
I got Ben to do a few extra welds here and there.
I do tend to over engineer Shit, but hey, i'm sure Kerry Plater (engineering guy) will be pleased to see it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 22, 2021, 12:59:49 PM
This rain is doing nothing to help the cause.  :'(
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: DarWen on March 22, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
This rain is doing nothing to help the cause.  :'(


Apart from filling the dam.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on March 22, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
I send you down some rain, and now you are winging. Are sure you are not a farmer? ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on March 22, 2021, 02:30:28 PM
Who will finish their car first....
Jeepers...
or
Jason B http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=43630.msg1031590#msg1031590 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=43630.msg1031590#msg1031590)

:D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 22, 2021, 03:02:17 PM
In order....

Yes, dam is just about full.  :D

Hmmm, could be a farmer, i sound like one.

My money is on Jason B.

The next drag challenge (5 days) is in mid Oct. and starts at Calder. (normally in Nov.)
Day 1 is check in day.....  no racing.
Day 2. Race at Calder.
Day 3. South Coast raceway at Portland.
Day 4. Sunset strip at Mildura
Day 5. Heathcote Park raceway.... Heathcote.
Day 6. Calder to finish off 5 tracks, 5 days.
This is all done on back roads and on specific routes with photo checkpoints along the way.
Some of the daily drives, can be as little a 200klm or as big as 400klm, usually around the 1,800 region all up.
Apart from driving the Zephyr down there, we then need to drive it home again.
The round trip there and back will be around the 3,400klm plus the 1,800 from race week.
Just over 5,000 in an 8 second Ford MK2 Zephyr.... not for the feint hearted.
So, for us to be a contender, we need to be finished around the early Sept. region.
We need to run a couple of thousand klm up on it, then test it..... and i mean, really test it.
Then drive to Calder towing our new purpose built box trailer for the event. (Haven't even started on that yet.)

If ya see an old wrinkly anus that looks lost, that would be mine, as i'll have my arse hanging out to get this little turd finished.

Can't say i really think we're gunna make it huh.
There is the money or lack thereof when you build one of these things.

But, lets see where we're up by the end of August.  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on March 22, 2021, 05:39:37 PM
Don't rush the build to get there. There's always the next one....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on March 22, 2021, 06:38:58 PM
That trip around Victoria in 5 days, in full on (by Victorian standards)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 22, 2021, 07:30:13 PM
Nothing like a deadline to keep things moving, even if you don't quite get there, it can get you pretty close.

My money is you make it, but in an untested vehicle, and a borrowed trailer, which will all just add to the adventure
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 23, 2021, 04:05:18 AM
I do have a box trailer, that with a new floor and some paint, would do the trick.

As for turning up untested..... wouldn't happen.

For us not to be an "also ran" we need to run 8's.

Not 8:99 either, to be in with a decent showing, either Shane or 1 need to run an 8;70 something.

Keep in mind, there is also accommodation for 4.
There is also some cheap arse flights to get Doug and Shane down and back.
Astrid and i will do the drive.

I have some specific plans for the box trailer...... gotta go have a crap for now, will post my ideas later.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Clevohead on March 23, 2021, 11:20:30 AM
This rain is doing nothing to help the cause.  :'(

At least you can't mow in the rain ;)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 23, 2021, 05:10:54 PM
For us not to be an "also ran" we need to run 8's.

To start with, I would just focus on successfully getting from A to B and enjoying the experience, no point in putting unnecessary pressure on yourself.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2021, 03:30:01 AM
ha ha ha ha..... too late for that. tryagain.

there is a lot riding on the build of this ol jalopy in so many ways.
Being the last one i ever build.......this one has to be good, real good.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: S.W on March 24, 2021, 12:34:20 PM
If a job's worth doing, it's worth doing properly hey Kev  :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 24, 2021, 02:48:55 PM
 :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 24, 2021, 07:50:08 PM
ha ha ha ha..... too late for that. tryagain.

I did say to start with, all I am suggesting is don't start out thinking you have to win your class first outing, or you are not going to compete. Taking an untrodden path in something you don't specialise in means there are inevitably going to be things that will at least need tweaking. Just go out there to enjoy it begin with, then work on your times, no point missing an event just because you might not yet be a stand-out.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 25, 2021, 09:44:06 AM
HOLY CRAP......  ???

Rang up to price having a left side tail light chromed for the car.
No sense waiting until i really need it and at $240 for a rechrome, its bearable.

How long i asked for the turn around...... 16 weeks.  ;D

So, front and rear bumper bars and one tail light is off the the chrome platers next Wednesday.

Oh, $660 per bar too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on March 25, 2021, 02:46:07 PM
 ;D   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSmK0a106Ok (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSmK0a106Ok)    ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 25, 2021, 03:59:19 PM
Now ya know why us having a lazy 1,000hp at the flywheel, is piss easy.  :cup:

The car, being "railed" now, if we went to a bigger diff in the ol, turd.... holy crap.
The ol Zef could be good for a high 7 second pass without too much issue.

Won't happen in my lifetime, but who ever gets it after us could do it.
Spend the money on the diff and engine and ya there.

She's just a streeter..... and it'll do me.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 26, 2021, 04:52:00 AM
The box trailer we tow, I'll build from scratch.

I don't plan on carrying a ton of gear, but we do need to be self sufficient.
Another issue is, drag radials are flat out useless on  wet road.

The trailer, will have matching 14 x 8 chrome wheels for the car, with a 235 street radial fitted.
During normal duties with the car, the street radials will be on the Zef for general driving.
The car and trailer will have a matching 5" wide chrome wheel and tyre. 
Having 2 spares can't be a bad thing huh.

During drag Challenge, we run the drag radials on the road from track to track.
However, if its gunna piss down rain, we can switch the wheels around for a safer trip.
The drag radials can just bop along on the trailer

Our spares, will be starter motor, alternator, serpentine belt, oils and coolants to enable a full change of any wet stuff.

The trailer itself, will be along the lines of a builders trailer.
We need to carry, jack, jack stands, creepers, a spare 60 litres of fuel, tool boxes, the race seat, white board.... you get the idea.
Country roads in the middle of night, fuel may be dicey if the servo's shut.
Oh, along with an ezi up shade cover do-dad thingy, a folding table, 4 decent chairs, a fridge and other Shit we "need".

I'll fit it out as water tight as it can be with a solar panel on top to feed the fridge.

Once we arrive in the pits, its all 4 trailer jacks down, ezi shade thingy up and I'll make something so that attaches to the trailer itself.
Saves the poofter blowing around the pits that way.
Gear out, car up in the air for a quick once over before prepping it for a run.
The whiteboard will have each persons name and what they have to do..... nothing can be missed or forgotten, hopefully.
IE: Remove door mirrors, wiper arms off, parachute on, driver s seat out, race seat in, bonnet latches on.... you get the idea.

Everything in the trailer, will have shadow board markings, to make packing up a breeze.
With Drag Challenge, even the trailer have a size requirement that can't be exceeded.
Apart form normal car to trailer plugs/hitches etc, the trailer can't be fitted with any charging, fuelling or cooling points to assist the car.

The spares you can carry, is pretty open, except you must start and finish with the same engine block.
Heads, trans, diffs..... can all be replaced.
IE: Kill a transmission, up on jack stands, trans out, back up trans installed and on the road again.
IE; Engine.... NO... so no one can use a different engine from street duties to race duties.
Because we aren't running in the fast brackets, our spares will be pretty limited.

So, back to the trailer, I'm going to paint it the same colour as the car.  8)
I have 2 old Zephyr rear quarters, so the trailer might score a set of spats to mimic the Zephyr mudguard lines.
A few quick release fasteners should do the trick there.

When we a not racing, the drag radials will be on the trailer in the shed with it jacked up on stands.

The ol Zef can just run around the street on normal radial tyres......   :angel:




Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Foo on March 26, 2021, 07:09:04 AM
HOLY CRAP......  ???

Rang up to price having a left side tail light chromed for the car.
No sense waiting until i really need it and at $240 for a rechrome, its bearable.

How long i asked for the turn around...... 16 weeks.  ;D

So, front and rear bumper bars and one tail light is off the the chrome platers next Wednesday.

Oh, $660 per bar too.

But I thought you were one of those worn out old "pensioners", so why aren't you using a can of Khromebrite?  ??? ;D :angel:

(https://eadn-wc01-1927555.nxedge.io/cdn/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/ecd051e9670bd57df35c8f0b122d8aea/s/c/screenshot_2021-03-05_re-po_kromebrite_liquid_chrome_400g.png)

Foo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on March 26, 2021, 07:14:40 AM
Do you know who is going to tune it?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 26, 2021, 08:52:33 AM
Hey Foo....

I do have a can of chrome here somewhere.  ;D

Tryagain.....

Shane will do most of it.
If we need to run it on a dyno, it will be Shane's choice of tuner.

If it was nitrous..... I'd be doing that bit myself.
With turbos, i wouldn't know my arse from my elbow.  :-[
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Post by: Bird on March 26, 2021, 08:56:39 AM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
No sense waiting until i really need it and at $240 for a rechrome, its bearable.
Oh, $660 per bar too.
Im in the wrong business.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on March 26, 2021, 10:49:25 AM
Im in the wrong business.

Small market......big profits..
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on March 26, 2021, 11:19:18 AM
Instead of shade shelter what about a awning which can be raised/lowered at the trailer end. 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 26, 2021, 11:58:37 AM
Instead of shade shelter what about a awning which can be raised/lowered at the trailer end.

That could work too.

With the Chromers Bird, because of the chemicals and Shit, you have to charge that to make a dollar.

Very few do diecast crap too

These guys are a bit old school, so good for my stuff.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 28, 2021, 04:28:29 PM
Shit a brick..... spent all day grinding back welds, bits of metal and crap ready for next weekend.

You see, one way, or another, the engine bay and underneath will be sand blasted and in primer by then.
The weather is looking mint.
We have all the crap ready to roll.
Its really all up to the fat bastard getting the final prep on the car done now.

Pic 1. You know in those car building shows on TV, they have a really nice uniforms..... i don't.  :-[

Pic 2. I'm blind as a bat, but with enough light and a white cane, i manage.

Pic 3. This where we did some slight mods for the Skyline front end.

Pic 4. This is the spring slider mounts, getting some fat rimmed off.

Pic 5. Giving the tunnel mods a clean up.

Hope i got them in the right order.
 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 29, 2021, 03:41:49 PM
More of the same today..... however.

I ran some tubing up the frame rails today and went bat Shit insane  with the compressor.

Holy crap, about half the country town of Gunnedah NSW came pouring out of the ol girl. (it use to live there, ya nimrod)
I'm not talking a little bit here..... the dust and dirt shot out like last nights 4 day old curry leftovers.
The floor of the shed is a mess.

Oh well, we're up and over the other way now for more of the same.

Stay tuned, for another action packed episode of Jeeper's.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Yeah, its fukkin boring and mindless, but still be better than the Shit on TV
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Post by: #jonesy on March 29, 2021, 03:57:31 PM
Definitely need a new shirt
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Champin on March 29, 2021, 04:09:39 PM
Definitely need a new shirt
Yeah I thought I was looking at Lou Farrigno for a minute there. Keep posting Jeepers, I'm loving the build.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 29, 2021, 04:17:14 PM
The shirt is much better from this side.

I often wear these clothes when i go to the soup kitchen in town for dinner. 
I do need to park the Fleetwood further away however, got sprung the other night heading off.
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Post by: GeoffA on March 29, 2021, 04:25:23 PM
Yeah I thought I was looking at Lou Farrigno for a minute there........

Nah...Bruce Banner....
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on March 29, 2021, 05:35:11 PM
Nah...Bruce Banner....
Hank off King of the Hill
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PdmMr_R_uoQ/sddefault.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 30, 2021, 02:32:44 PM
About 3 days ago, the weather forecast for Easter was mint.

Not so much now, i have a mate arriving here 7:30am (subject to lockdown rules) Thursday morning.
I have everything ready to roll, with maybe a few hours of grinding/clean up left.
Rain/showers forecast for Sat, Sun and Monday.....  :'(
You can't sand blast wet and the bare metal can't get wet.

I can't really do it on my own either, as i need assistance to bring the car and cradle out of the friggin shed.

Oh well, it will be, what it will be....... still more exciting than Married At First Sight.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 31, 2021, 02:09:16 PM
We are absolutely ready for sand blasting.  ???

My mate Dougie will be here at 8am on Good Friday.
All the Shit is here ready to rock and roll.

Maybe a half an hour of dicking around in the morning, but ready to go..... i think.

I tell ya, as a Sheet Metal Worker, i make a very good Mower Man.  ;D

I really cocked up when i cut the holes for the tubes for the rear shocks.  :-[
Lucky for me, i trimmed some sheet and Ben filled the gaps with the MIG.

The tunnel is now all trimmed to the floor pan shape.
Hey, how nice does the tail light look with brand new lenses fitted.  :cup:
There is a decent shot in here of the chassis rails i did as well.

If our Premier doesn't extend the lockdown, we're on.
If she does, Shit happens, it will happen another day/weekend.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on March 31, 2021, 02:16:24 PM
In between building this thing, i also have my chores to do.

I mowed the front yard last weekend.
I mowed the back yard today.
I also did an hour and half of weed spraying.

While we don't camp anymore, we only have to walk outside and it feels like a camp ground anyway, except its quiet here.  ;D

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 02, 2021, 04:12:19 PM
Well, Dougie and I had a lash with the blaster today.
Its not real fast, but we got a decent shot at it.
Rain will bugger the next 5 days, which is cool by me.

It was blowing pretty hard today and we lost a lot of grit to the grassed areas.

Enjoy. (i look like i'm disarming a bomb in pic 3)
In Pic 4, i'd started and fairly quickly realised..... Shit, i haven't got my gloves on.
Lucky for me, Doug got on 'em on while i kept going.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 02, 2021, 04:19:48 PM
Oh yeah, in the previous photos, the wind kept moving my burka, so i used a zip tie around my head..... worked ok too.
Oh yeah, we ran out of blasting grit too.

Pic 1. What a pair of fat pricks.

Pic 2. It may not look like much, but it was friggin great to get the sealer on the engine bay today.
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Post by: Pottsy on April 02, 2021, 04:45:06 PM
What’s the red propeller on the front for?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 02, 2021, 04:48:02 PM
What’s the red propeller on the front for?

I thought... what friggin red propeller..... until i went back to the pics.  ;D

You funny man Pottsy.  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Pottsy on April 02, 2021, 05:25:09 PM
I thought... what friggin red propeller..... until i went back to the pics.  ;D

You funny man Pottsy.  :cup:

Gotcha. ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jwb on April 03, 2021, 07:09:00 AM
Potty,
That's the "manual" starter !  ;)

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Post by: Pottsy on April 03, 2021, 08:10:49 AM
Potty,
That's the "manual" starter !  ;)

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Post by: nab on April 03, 2021, 12:00:05 PM
Putting the sealer on is a major milestone! Now just a quick lick of paint, shove the motor in and you’re done, 3weeks max????
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 03, 2021, 12:32:32 PM
Putting the sealer on is a major milestone! Now just a quick lick of paint, shove the motor in and you’re done, 3weeks max????

Ha ha ha ..... yeah....  :D

They released the entries yesterday for Drag Challenge in Oct.
In 6 hours and 8 minutes, all 250 spots were taken and paid for.
Then they released the wait list, that was filled this early this morning with 100 more.

I was thinking of getting on the wait list after Easter, as i'm not 100% certain we cou0ld be ready and tested.

Bummer..... but it shows, how good the event is.

The HQ monaro that ran 7:35 in 2019, ran a 6:90 something this week just gone..... waaaaay fast for a street car.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 04, 2021, 06:05:42 AM
Today, will be a heat gun and scraper and get this black Shit off.

The garnet isn't great at removing it.
Going to be a long day i think.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 05, 2021, 12:36:51 PM
I think the clutch in my bum is broken.  ???

I just can't get my arse into gear this afternoon.
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Post by: ronmac on April 05, 2021, 02:54:44 PM
Stick your thumb up your ass. rotate clockwise for 15 minutes and that should wind you up.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 05, 2021, 03:31:25 PM
Works too.....  went and did 2 hours of mowing.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 09, 2021, 01:24:45 PM
The last 4 days, have either been, scrapping off underbody sealer or mowing grass.

Sick of doing both.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 11, 2021, 04:13:50 PM
The underside, has done been scrap-ithed of its tar like sealer.
Left shoulder is shot, right knee is wobbling all over the shop.

I look like a friggin oranga...... arangatang? oranotang ...... fukkin chimp getting around this afternoon.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2021, 03:49:21 AM
What a friggin day yesterday was...... my back is telling me so.

6:30am start, i figured i could be ready to blast by 7:00
Thank Christ there was no wind, got the 9 x 9metre tarp out and pegged.
I had to get the car outside by myself.
I tied the front of the mower to back of the cradle/rotisserie and went gently, gently.

Sorted and blasting by 7ish...... ha ha ha..... yeah right.
Dragged 4 ton of crap outside and saw the clock go past 7:30 whilst ordering an alternator for the Statesman.
Oh yeah, the statesman killed that...... needed that like i need more haemorrhoids too.
Dougie had that covered with a brand new unit delivered to the house by about 2:30..... gotta love good friends.... free delivery too.
 
About 10 to 8, i hooked into the outer portions of the inner mudguard sections and it went well, really well.
All those hours/days of scraping the old bitumen tar underbody sealer off was paying dividends today.

Around 9:00, Astrid helped me get the car up on its side....... for about the 100th time. (RDO for her)

Then, it was just more of the same until 10 when John Bishop arrived...... he should wear a cape.
The hardest part of the whole deal, is sweeping up and sifting the garnet to get ready to go again.
Trust me when i say, you do that many times over.
John took a heap of pressure off me and my dodgy knee and back.

By 12, i was pretty sure we could do the lot in one day.... yaay.
John said he had to go by 2pm. (he left at 2:25)

We got the whole underside done and ready to do the epoxy sealer for the bare metal.
Got the spray gun ready, Shit mixed, plug the gun in only to find, it won't spray paint.
I'm pretty excited and inspired by that, seeing the turd had a bit of thinners put through it the day before as a test.

Astrid is in the middle of doing some spraying with her little beaver.....(leave it alone)
Swiped that, her paint out, cleaned and my stuff in.

Lucky for me, it didn't matter too much on finish with the sealer..... the Shit poured through it.
Her beaver is designed for thicker paint than automotive stuff..... but we got it on and without too much issue.
At least i know, everything is well and truly sealed and covered.

John helped me rotate the car back to "normal" and got going.
I then had to pack everything away, which was pretty enjoyable, knowing what we had achieved.

I really expected it to be a 2 day job, and it would've been if not not for John.

Panadol rapid will be my friend today doing the Statesman, my back is still in killer mode..... the alternator comes in from underneath.
Who designs these late model Shit cars......
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2021, 03:53:12 AM
back ya go.....
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Post by: Spada on April 13, 2021, 07:07:56 AM
Must be satusfying to finally see a finished surface 👍
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2021, 07:17:51 AM
Must be satusfying to finally see a finished surface 👍

It was a ripper feeling.....  :cup:

The entire undercarriage will still cop a coat of that wrinkly style black body deadener yet, along with the engine bay getting normal paint.
Shane is lending me a rust proofing sprayer as well, so whilst on the rotisserie, it will get rust proofed into the bargain.
It still has a little bit of time still in the rack.

The worst part of yesterday, was blasting the rear wheel wells, as the sand shoots everywhere, including back at ya.
I'm still getting sand out of my bum crack..... at least, i think its sand.

If i can get my finger out and actually get some Shit done, the engine bay will be painted in 2 weeks or so.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2021, 07:21:32 AM
If there was one fairly amusing thing to come out of yesterday......
I have light sensitive eyes these days, so i tend to walk with my head down a bit.
Now, my mate John Bishop is a tad shorter than me and had opened the roller door to a height suitable to him.
FUK ME, walked my forehead straight into the friggin door..... nearly took the bastard off the tracks i reckon.
Not sure what made the most noise either, me bellowing like an old bull, the roller door clanging and bouncing all around the place or John laughing
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Post by: S.W on April 13, 2021, 09:56:06 AM
Lookin' good Kev.
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Post by: moeite on April 13, 2021, 10:16:10 AM
This is a brilliant thread. Go back to page one and it looks like a rotting hulk almost beyond redemption. Now it looks like it's closing in on the Meccano Set stage when "all" that needs to happen is to bolt it all together.

You've done a power of work and I'm hanging out to see the finished product...:-)
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Post by: austastar on April 13, 2021, 12:39:12 PM
Hi,
   Big dose of skill envy from this end.
Cheers

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 13, 2021, 01:00:07 PM
Hi,
   Big dose of skill envy from this end.
Cheers

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Ha ha ha.... you've never met me.... have you.

I'm like a blending of the Fonz and Homer Simpson, and not always in that order either.
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Post by: jclures on April 13, 2021, 10:05:44 PM
Does the mower now have a new title, the Zepher Mover. :D
Probably had more power to. >:D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 14, 2021, 05:55:56 AM
Does the mower now have a new title, the Zepher Mover. :D
Probably had more power to. >:D

Settle down.... the Zephyr had a blistering 86hp when new.
The mower only has 26...... hmmm, power to weight, you might just have something there.

I'll get the ol girls Statesman sorted today.... then back to the Zef

The next few days will be getting the engine bay ready for some colour.
Then we'll attack the underside with he body deadener stuff.

It will be nice to see underneath in black and the engine bay green.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 14, 2021, 01:45:16 PM
This is a brilliant thread. Go back to page one and it looks like a rotting hulk almost beyond redemption. Now it looks like it's closing in on the Meccano Set stage when "all" that needs to happen is to bolt it all together.

You've done a power of work and I'm hanging out to see the finished product...:-)

Ha ha ha, i went back to page 1, just to see how far of the original plan i'd gotten.

 THIS ALL NOW SET IN CEMENT.
1960 Ford MK 2 Zephyr series 2 low line. (tick and still on line)
It will be a pale mint green with a white roof. (tick and still on line)
With air conditioning, venetians, spats, sun visor and Dodge Lancer hubcaps. (Scrub the spats and Dodge Lancer caps. The spats didn't clear the wheels, and we ended up with chrome wheels)

Interior, will be light green with some dark green contrasts and dark green carpet. (tick, and still on line)
It will have a front and back chrome moly roll cage as per the IHRA specs. (tick and still on line)

The driveline will be, a Turbo Barra engine, a beefed 4 speed auto (overdrive) and a braced and shortened Ford diff. (Scrub the 4 speed box, that's become a T400 GM trans for the sake of strength and longevity and i can use a transbrake as well)

Whilst I still need to do some sums on the final figures, I would expect around 700hp at the wheels. (Tick, still looking at 700- 750hp at the wheels.)

So, overall, we haven't really wandered off the original plan too much at all.

Pic 1. The day it arrived home on the 6th of June 2020.
Pic 2. Where we were after the full mock up of everything on the 8th of Jan. 2021.
Pic 3. This week of course..... 12th of April 2021.

Oh bugger, doesn't look like i've done much really..... but i have, honest
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 15, 2021, 07:11:46 AM
A few better shots of the underside.....

Even though it was only on the road for 10 years or so, it was nearly all on dirt roads.
All things considered equal..... it came up ok.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 17, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
I rang the paint shop today to order some..... well, paint.... ya muppets. YAAAAY

Ha ha ha ha.

The code for the green is long gone being a 1960 Holden colour, so some detective work on Monday by the paint guy.

Got a start on the sealing of the firewall and Shit today with seam sealer.
Got a start on some light sanding of the firewall, but the humidity is pretty high at the moment with showers predicted.

Tomorrow is a whole new day.
Some of this stuff may seem trivial, but its so important for the longevity of the car.
This thing will eat up a few cartridges of the stuff, but i want to seal, every nook and cranny, every weld line, pretty much every friggin thing.

If all goes to plan, the next 7 to 10 days we'll have a painted engine bay.
After a day or two for the 2 pack to really go off, i'll mask up and do the underbody wrinkle black spray.

Yeah yeah, it doesn't sound like much, but its another mile marker we get past on the way to a completed unit.
 
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Post by: NZMarkb on April 17, 2021, 03:04:02 PM
Great progress mate
I’m loving following your build
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Post by: jclures on April 17, 2021, 05:47:05 PM
I hope it is not like the paint for my Nissan.
One of the pigments for my paint has been removed from sale, so my paint shop had to re think the colour and come up with a new recipe for to give me the matching colour.
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Post by: GeoffA on April 17, 2021, 05:54:34 PM
It's just plain wrong.

Ya can't paint it in a Holden colour.....

 ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 18, 2021, 06:26:27 AM
It's just plain wrong.

Ya can't paint it in a Holden colour.....

 ;D

It runs a GM transmission already anyway..... paint is paint. LOL ha ha ha.
The purists and rivet counters are gunna lose their Shit with this car anyway... may as well really make their day. LOL

Hey JC..... as long as the come up with something close to the colour i'll be happy.
The guy who's looking after it, did the colour matching of the Austin paint to the insides a while back and then the touch up stuff on the corona.
The Corona needed 3 doors touched up..... i did the spraying of the drivers door.... was hard to pick a difference huh.
He's got 30 years experience at matching..... he'll nail it i reckon.

With the two below, they were both being sold, so had to pretty damn good, but not 100 point perfect.
The Zephyr, being for us to keep, needs to be that tad better.
 

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Post by: edz on April 18, 2021, 11:08:21 AM
Might give you an idea how the Zeph will be with 700 HP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODJs8ufthk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LODJs8ufthk)    ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 18, 2021, 11:53:23 AM
Lost me as soon as i saw the shed burnout.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 18, 2021, 02:38:59 PM
This seam sealer goop goes a long way.

I've got the engine bay seam sealed everywhere i could find a spot to stick it.... so to speak.

Knocked over 3 hours of mowing then.

Then came back and started to get some bog/filler over the welding imperfections.
Not needing much either.... pretty happy about that.


 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 19, 2021, 02:32:20 PM
You folks like piccies....so....

Pic 1. The filler is going on thin. Between Ben's welding and my grinding.  :cup:

Pic 2, 3, and 4.... more of the same
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Post by: DannyG on April 20, 2021, 10:25:40 AM
It's just plain wrong.

Ya can't paint it in a Holden colour.....

 ;D

I just lost all interest....... >:D  I can not be painted a Holden colour.......  ;D
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Post by: jclures on April 20, 2021, 10:32:42 AM
I put a Toyota motor in a Nissan, so a bit of paint is no concern. ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 20, 2021, 12:02:32 PM
I put a Toyota motor in a Nissan, so a bit of paint is no concern. ;D

Just got home with the Holden paint.... full steam ahead.  :cup:

I think its great when folks step outside the square.

Toyota to nissan....works for me. :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 21, 2021, 02:16:48 PM
A sanding we will go, a sanding we will go.

Hi ho the merry oh, a sanding we will goooooooooooo.

I reckon, its gunna be 3 days worth of sanding easy.
I'm back through the epoxy sealer in a few spots, so once i'm happy with the filler spots, i'll touch up them with sealer.
The filler is on the sealer of course, just the surrounding bits we've pushed through when rubbing back.

I reckon, we should be close to a ready to paint, rubbed down with 1,000 wet and dry by Sunday.

No point putting up a pic, barely anything to see, its just getting smoother is all.

Oh, what the hell.... here's a pic..... sunrise at the Cadillac Ranch.


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 22, 2021, 03:08:15 PM
ha ha ha.... 11 people clicked on my sunrise...... we are bored, aren't we.

After a positively Shit nights sleep, it was on again this morning.

Including doing a once over for an hour on a tidy XE Falcon for a mate, we got our first lot of grey primer on today.

Its pretty much wet sanding now for the duration.

Sanding for hours on end VS having ya nuts squashed in a vice...... i think i'll take the crushed nuts.

Oh well,i ts all in the prep.... or so they say.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 23, 2021, 09:57:02 AM
I got told the a couple of days ok.... sunday week (02/05/21) we're getting a green engine bay.

Now, i was going to have a day off today...... time is on my side.  :D

I take a call at 7am this morning..... "We're painting Sunday...... be fukkin ready to go, fat boy"  :o

So, with a bad back and sore fingers, its been sanding and sanding again.  ::)

The first coat yesterday of the grey Shit went on a bit dusty.
I know what i did wrong, so the next sweep of primer should be much better.

At least by Sunday arvo, Marvin the MK2 will have his first bits of green done.

OK, smoko's over..... back to the tools.
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Post by: MarkGU on April 23, 2021, 09:01:48 PM
Gday Kev.

here is a couple of links to companies i have used when rebuilding my wolseley.
They might come in handy for you.
https://glass4classics.com.au/ (https://glass4classics.com.au/)

https://classiccarbs.com.au/Classic-Carburettors-Repair-Kits-Carburettor-Gasket-Kits-Carburettor-Diaphragms-Carburettor-Needle-Seats-Carburettor-Jets-Carburettor-Floats-Carburettor-Throttle-Shafts-Fuel-Pump-Kits-Fuel-Pump-Diaphragms-Fuel-Pump-Valves-Fuel-Pump-Seals- (https://classiccarbs.com.au/Classic-Carburettors-Repair-Kits-Carburettor-Gasket-Kits-Carburettor-Diaphragms-Carburettor-Needle-Seats-Carburettor-Jets-Carburettor-Floats-Carburettor-Throttle-Shafts-Fuel-Pump-Kits-Fuel-Pump-Diaphragms-Fuel-Pump-Valves-Fuel-Pump-Seals-)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 24, 2021, 03:20:50 AM
I was a aware of the glass mob, but a reminder doesn't go astray.

May not need the carby guy though.

What i do need to know, it how to clean a body ID tag without taking off the print. (having a mental block on this)

I need someone WHO HAS DONE IT BEFORE and not just a try this it might work.
I'll only get one shot at it, if i wipe the paint, the tag will look crap.
Shane's away for a few days, so i will run it past him.

Oh, with the primer too, the dusty Shit i sanded dry yesterday.
Redid the primer again for a much better outcome.
Left it to tack off slightly, then hit it again.
Marvin is down low in the cradle ready to go outside first thing for a wet rub down.

My back is killing me, Panadol Rapids are my weapon of choice at present.
Hurts to cough even...... the things we go through, to play with classic cars huh.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 24, 2021, 02:11:50 PM
And done......

Complete engine bay and rad support panel sanded, checked, re-sanded and dried off.
Complete wipe down with wax and grease remover.

Every corner, nook and cranny has been hammered with air.

Tomorrow, we piss off the Holden and Ford  owners in one go.

A 1960 Holden colour on a 1959 Ford.  ;D
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Post by: jclures on April 24, 2021, 03:04:12 PM
It will be the best bit on that Ford. ;D >:D
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Post by: edz on April 25, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
Is it done yet is it done yet ? C'mon Kev show us what it looks like in Duck egg green .  8) ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 25, 2021, 02:51:06 PM
Is it done yet is it done yet ? C'mon Kev show us what it looks like in Duck egg green .  8) ;D

All done.... and its not fukkin duck egg green ya goober.

Its seaforth green..... pics to follow soon. It looks good.... i'm wrapped.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 25, 2021, 03:33:47 PM
Man o man, what a weekend.

Pic 1. Early Saturday morning.

Pic 2. Rubbing it all down.

Pic 3. Ready to go this morning.

Pic 4. Looks good in the tin.

Pic 5. Noel getting under way.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 25, 2021, 03:41:06 PM
Keep in mind, Noel and Judy drove 300 plus klm's this morning to be here by just after 9am.
Even with a dodgy shoulder, he was determined to get the job done before shoulder surgery in 9 days time.

Don't worry too much about the tape on the frame rails, just a guide for Noel as opposed to be "masked up."

The colour looks great in the flesh, slightly darker in the shade, but just pops in full daylight.

Going to have a few days off now i think. 
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Post by: Steffo1 on April 25, 2021, 04:41:25 PM
I see what you mean about the colour change! :D
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Post by: nab on April 25, 2021, 04:53:39 PM
Reminds me of spearmint flavoured milk...
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Post by: Champin on April 25, 2021, 05:47:50 PM
I like it. It's going to look awesome when its fully dressed.

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Post by: warrenm on April 25, 2021, 06:04:52 PM
Looking good.
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Post by: tryagain on April 28, 2021, 10:33:10 AM
Going to have a few days off now i think.

Think you have had enough, time for back to work old timer, we need updates! 😄
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on April 28, 2021, 11:28:58 AM
Think you have had enough, time for back to work old timer, we need updates! 😄

Had to do some chores around here.

The Fleetwood A/C fan was noisy, so took that out and sorted that Monday
Did some mowing on Tuesday.
Had a few things to do around here today.
Picking up some more seam sealer tomorrow is Brisbane.
Tomorrow is Mummy day.... :angel: At age 98 in August, she gets a bit of priority.

Friday will be back on the Z car.  :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 01, 2021, 03:11:14 PM
We were so lucky to get the painting of the engine bay done last Sunday.  :cup:

I did manage to get the car outside this morning.
Got the right side floors inside back to bare arse and epoxy sealed.

Then back inside again..... i was hoofing it too to beat any showers that were lurking, but not on the radar.

Going to try for the other side tomorrow..... with any luck.

I've got a few bits like the cross member and Shit to sand blast yet too, but all weather dependant.

Oh well, tomorrow is a whole new day.....  :D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 02, 2021, 06:27:50 AM
Oh ripper..... foggy, and 93% humidity..... just perfect to try and bare metal something.  :-\

Going to be a much later start now.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 02, 2021, 11:13:53 AM
OK, cabin floors are done and dusted in epoxy sealer and back in the shed.
My back and knees are killing me too.
In case it had to come in with little notice, i left the zephyr in the lowered position this morning.

The boot area was never gunna make it into todays weather pattern though.
That will be a tomorrow job weather permitting.

Just sat down to a hot cross bun and a coffee and it started raining.

Winner winner, BBQ chicken dinner.  :cup:

Once i get the boot area sorted, i can sound deadner the entire insides and underneath.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 02, 2021, 12:54:27 PM
Try as i might, i'm buggered if i can get a decent TRUE photo of the colour.

Pic 1. is the best i could do, and its dark on one side and light on the other.... does my head in.

Pic 2. and 3., just two different shots of the epoxy stuff on the floors.

To be added to the "it seemed like a good idea at the time" was using Mrs Jeepers tooth brush to clean the spray gun.
The thinners melted the friggin thing.... ha ha ha..... at least i got the gun clean before the brush went to goop.
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Post by: Pottsy on May 02, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
Fluoro lighting screws up the colour balance, on digital cameras and some phones you can the white balance settings to account for different style of lights or make changes in a photo editing program.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 02, 2021, 01:30:38 PM
Fluoro lighting screws up the colour balance, on digital cameras and some phones you can the white balance settings to account for different style of lights or make changes in a photo editing program.

You idiot..... i'm lucky to even get the phone to take a pic.  :-[
Mrs Jeepers has to load 'em on the computer for me..... that's why the pics always follow along behind.

The worst part, is there was no flouros on..... just daylight.

The colour outside in the sun, really pops..... a lot.... especially for a solid colour too.

Oh well, it will be what it will be.
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Post by: Pottsy on May 02, 2021, 01:53:45 PM
You idiot..... i'm lucky to even get the phone to take a pic.  :-[
Mrs Jeepers has to load 'em on the computer for me..... that's why the pics always follow along behind.

The worst part, is there was no flouros on..... just daylight.

The colour outside in the sun, really pops..... a lot.... especially for a solid colour too.

Oh well, it will be what it will be.

Come on man, are you saying I thought you were smarter than you actually are!
And Idiot, I represent that remark. ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 02, 2021, 02:10:48 PM
I'm NOT smarter the 5th grader.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 05, 2021, 08:43:48 AM
My ability to plan ahead is just knackered.  :-[

Broke off the car yesterday, to grab some gear to make life easier.... so far, so good.
Man, i have everything i could possibly need for a full tilt, full day, get the Shit done day..... so far, so good.
Even knocked over some mowing yesterday afternoon, to keep today clear.... so far, so good.
Even left the ramps out, ready to take the car straight out at 7am..... so far, so good.

Got up early, checked the radar for any pesky showers that could be out there...... HOLY CRAP.

Been getting solid rain since 7am..... where the hell did that come from..... well, the sky actually.
Check the Brisbane radar for the Lockyer Valley....  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

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Post by: edz on May 05, 2021, 09:11:15 AM
Im hearing ya .. No different here atm .
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Post by: S.W on May 05, 2021, 03:11:49 PM
Send the rain about 2000km south east. You get your blasting and painting done, we get much needed rain. Win-win  :cup:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GBC on May 05, 2021, 03:15:41 PM
Send the rain about 2000km south east. You get your blasting and painting done, we get much needed rain. Win-win  :cup:

I thought NZ got plenty of rain?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: S.W on May 06, 2021, 08:54:14 AM
I thought NZ got plenty of rain?
Good point. Make that South west  ??? ??? Very dry in SA at the moment
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Post by: NZMarkb on May 06, 2021, 09:01:07 AM
I thought NZ got plenty of rain?

Haha
Yeah keep your rail
We've got plenty  :laugh: :laugh:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 07, 2021, 01:17:37 PM
After a couple of false starts due to the weather, i now have the boot area in epoxy sealer as well.
Also gave the cabin area another once over too.

I needed to paint strip some separate parts, including the front X member, but the Shit dries out pretty quick.

So, i covered the bits with stripper and then wrapped 'em in glad wrap.
Worked a bit better, the stuff stayed wet ok.

Bit of a turd to unwrap the stuff though. The jury is still out whether it was a better way to go or not.

I'll seam seal the boot area tomorrow and with any luck, the black Shit can start going on, on Sunday.

I tell ya, i can't believe how friggin slow i work these days.  ???
Sure, i've bowled over some 4 hours of mowing, but i just don't remember being this slow.

Don't know how guys build a decent car in 9 months and then hit the show circuit.
AND, ours won't even get shown..... got me beat.
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Post by: Pete79 on May 08, 2021, 10:33:04 AM
I’m pretty sure conventional wisdom says you should wrap your bits BEFORE you cover them with a stripper..... ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Post by: Coolblue80 on May 08, 2021, 12:40:46 PM
After a couple of false starts due to the weather, i now have the boot area in epoxy sealer as well.
Also gave the cabin area another once over too.

I needed to paint strip some separate parts, including the front X member, but the Shit dries out pretty quick.

So, i covered the bits with stripper and then wrapped 'em in glad wrap.
Worked a bit better, the stuff stayed wet ok.

Bit of a turd to unwrap the stuff though. The jury is still out whether it was a better way to go or not.

I'll seam seal the boot area tomorrow and with any luck, the black Shit can start going on, on Sunday.

I tell ya, i can't believe how friggin slow i work these days.  ???
Sure, i've bowled over some 4 hours of mowing, but i just don't remember being this slow.

Don't know how guys build a decent car in 9 months and then hit the show circuit.
AND, ours won't even get shown..... got me beat.


A wise man once said......."You can only piss with the dick you've been given"
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 08, 2021, 01:46:47 PM

A wise man once said......."You can only piss with the dick you've been given"

I didn't do so well in that department either..... why do you think i drive a Cadillac.

If all goes to plan, the black Shit will go on the insides tomorrow....yay.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 09, 2021, 12:18:10 PM
And done, another item to be ticked off on the white board.

The week in pictures....

Pic 1. Back to bare metal, epoxy primed and then seam sealed with Finixa seam sealer.

Pic 2. Mask up.

Pic 3. Mask up.

Pic 4. Mask up.

Pic 5. I used two of these on the insides of the ol girl. Great stuff to use too.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 09, 2021, 12:22:30 PM
I'm really happy with the outcome of this.

Lots of hard yakka, but worth it.

The underside gets the same treatment during the coming week.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 10, 2021, 02:33:54 PM
Well worth a look.

The FG Falcon isn't a light car by a friggin long shot.
Take note, of how much of this engine is STOCK FROM THE FACTORY.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKpRTrGT54 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hKpRTrGT54)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 11, 2021, 01:59:46 PM
OH BUGGER.  :-[

Tipped the Zephyr over this morning until its bum (underside) was up in the air.

Woohoo, Black floors matter is happening today..... Ready to mask it all up  and..... oh fiddlesticks.

I had a good look, aw geez, i haven't seam sealed the underside yet.

Which also means, the rails still require a substantial blow job.
For 2.5 hours, i blew like a $50 hooker.
I made up an enema hose for fresh air to go places fresh air has never been.

I tell ya, the amount of western NSW dust and garnet that was still coming would do ya mind in.
I felt like the big bad wolf by the time i was done.
You'd just start to think it was all good, hit the air a different direction, and the Shit poured again.
It was really a case of blow, clean up some mess, blow again, clean up again.....

Then it was out with the Finixa seam sealer goop and away we went.

So, whilst Marvin doesn't have a black underside just yet, he is clean and partly masked up.

Tomorrow, we'll get the rest masked and if the humidity isn't too bad..... Black is back.... and my back is knackered.
Sure hope Shane enjoys driving the Zephyr, i was flat out getting my arse into the Fleetwood to put it back inside.
Christ knows how i'm going to be getting in around a full roll cage.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 11, 2021, 07:11:39 PM
It was really a case of blow, clean up some mess, blow again, clean up again.....

took you back to being a teenager?
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Post by: Pottsy on May 11, 2021, 07:37:41 PM
took you back to being a teenager?
Pass the tissues.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 12, 2021, 03:39:48 AM
Dirty bastards.....  ;D

Yeah, it was a bit like that.
How can anyone forget, the first time ya unloaded..... ha ha ha.

I just went WHOA and hoped like Shit it was meant to do that  ???.... reckon i covered a good 4 feet as well.  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 12, 2021, 12:33:06 PM
After hours of finishing the masking up of everything, i've hit the floors with the black Shit.

Looks good..... well, not bad for a 62 year old motor car i guess.

Look for some pics later on.... i still don't how to get them off my bat-phone.  :-[

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Post by: gronk on May 12, 2021, 02:51:02 PM
OH BUGGER.  :-[



Sure hope Shane enjoys driving the Zephyr, i was flat out getting my arse into the Fleetwood to put it back inside.
Christ knows how i'm going to be getting in around a full roll cage.

Is that because of the sore back or an arse that’s too big ??   ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 12, 2021, 03:04:37 PM
Is that because of the sore back or an arse that’s too big ??   ;D

Plenty of both really.

Today's progress.....


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 12, 2021, 03:07:00 PM
a couple of close ups of the chassis connectors as well.

It makes the original sills twice the width.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 14, 2021, 06:31:42 AM
The other day, to flip the Zephyr over, i grabbed my neighbour from up the road. (retired truck driver)

At the time, ha made comment on the shirt i was wearing...... ha ha ha.or lack of it.

Yesterday, i arranged with him to flip the car back again.

He turned up on his quad (lives 200 metres up the road) yesterday, spot on time.
He threw me a bag containing 7 hi-vis work shirts.
There was 2 brand new ones and 5 very good second hand ones.

Ya gotta love it when ya neighbour takes pity on ya and has to cloth ya.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2021, 12:38:37 PM
The X member has to go in soon.....

Oh dear, what the hell, back to bare metal.

Bit of Epoxy sealer, then a bit of Primer.
The brake booster adaptor plate, fresh air vent and pedal box all came in for the same treatment.

Nothing like making a small job bigger than Ben Hur.
 


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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2021, 12:46:08 PM
I also needed to spray the booster adaptor and air vent blank in green.

I came to conclusion, a splash of colour on the rear parcel tray might look cool.

So, popped the Cadillac out front miles away from the spraying.....

As a painter, i make a very good mower man..... however, the booster plate and air vent came out mint.  :o
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Post by: edz on May 16, 2021, 12:52:35 PM
Didnt do too badly for a Brush n Roller job Kev . ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2021, 01:05:28 PM
 ;D

The ol Zephyr will scrub up ok i think.....

Mind you, this is, and always will be, the pride of the fleet.
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Post by: Foo on May 16, 2021, 01:58:33 PM
Hope there's a long vehicle sign on the back of that?  :o ;D

Foo
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Post by: bmwfreak on May 16, 2021, 02:11:24 PM
Hope there's a long vehicle sign on the back of that?  :o ;D

Foo

The Zephyr is going to do duty as an ‘oversize vehicle’ pilot car, whenever the Fleetwood goes out on the road. ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2021, 02:14:52 PM
Hope there's a long vehicle sign on the back of that?  :o ;D

Foo

Ha ha ha, yeah, they are a big car. Ya just need to look at the size of the back door.

Cadillac did make a VERY limited run of a series 75, which is 22 inches longer than ours.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 16, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
OK, keep this in mind..... its 1964.

429 cubic inch engine, with 10.5 to 1 compression, and factory 4 bbl carb, the engine is rated @ 340hp.
Turbo 400 auto trans.
3.3 diff gears..... these ol things go pretty good for the size of 'em.
3.0 diff gears are fitted if the car doesn't have Air Cond.
A limited slip diff was an option, but we don't have that.
The tailshaft, consists of 5 universals and a centre bearing.

Our car has the following.

Climate control air cond.
Power steering.
Cruise control.
Electric windows front and back.
Electric 1/4 windows front and back.
6 way power seats.
Twilight sentinel... lights come on and off automatically at dawn and dusk.
High beam will dip itself back to low beam and back again if a car comes the other way at night time.
Power door locks.
Power trunk release.
Self closing trunk.
Factory tinted windows.
Factory fitted seat belts front and rear. (lap belts only, but the fronts are retractable)
Auto release park brake when you drive off. (good getaway car)
3 way braking system. Its drum brakes, but massive truck sized shoes and drums, with duel circuit and power booster.
Now, if you suffer a catastrophic brake fail..... out of fluid, the park brake, which is applied with your foot, can be used manually on the rear brakes without locking, to bring the car to a safe stop.

Plus, they ride really friggin good with coil springs on all corners. :D

I love my Fleetwood.
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Post by: #jonesy on May 16, 2021, 07:22:31 PM
OK, keep this in mind..... its 1964.

429 cubic inch engine, with 10.5 to 1 compression, and factory 4 bbl carb, the engine is rated @ 340hp.
Turbo 400 auto trans.
3.3 diff gears..... these ol things go pretty good for the size of 'em.
3.0 diff gears are fitted if the car doesn't have Air Cond.
A limited slip diff was an option, but we don't have that.
The tailshaft, consists of 5 universals and a centre bearing.

Our car has the following.

Climate control air cond.
Power steering.
Cruise control.
Electric windows front and back.
Electric 1/4 windows front and back.
6 way power seats.
Twilight sentinel... lights come on and off automatically at dawn and dusk.
High beam will dip itself back to low beam and back again if a car comes the other way at night time.
Power door locks.
Power trunk release.
Self closing trunk.
Factory tinted windows.
Factory fitted seat belts front and rear. (lap belts only, but the fronts are retractable)
Auto release park brake when you drive off. (good getaway car)
3 way braking system. Its drum brakes, but massive truck sized shoes and drums, with duel circuit and power booster.
Now, if you suffer a catastrophic brake fail..... out of fluid, the park brake, which is applied with your foot, can be used manually on the rear brakes without locking, to bring the car to a safe stop.

Plus, they ride really friggin good with coil springs on all corners. :D

I love my Fleetwood.
So all these are original 1964?
I would have thought 1990's at the earliest
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 17, 2021, 03:44:41 AM
Yes mate... everything is either factory standard or option.

There is also, the 7 position tilt steering column there too.... maybe some other bits i forgot.
Apart from one rear door that's had a respray, (back in the USA) you're looking at 1964 paint as well.
Our I.D. plate refers to the options ticked by the first owner.

The funny thing is, being the Fleetwood, its top of the heap, it also receives a slightly nicer sprung seat, 3 way inside mirror in place of 2, loads of little stuff like that.
The Fleetwood's were very much targeted towards the wealthy.
Very comfy to ride in...... :cup:

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Post by: Gazza00 on May 17, 2021, 08:32:43 AM

   What !!  no long horns on the    hood  ???  ;D  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 17, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
   What !!  no long horns on the    hood  ???  ;D  ;D

Its got two crackers under the hood, along with a trumpet..... all stock of course.

Pushbike riders hate them..... i like to warn them i'm coming..... its a safety thing.
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Post by: NZMarkb on May 17, 2021, 11:00:58 AM
..... i like to warn them i'm coming..... its a safety thing.
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That's dam considerate of you mate
I think just as you get to their back wheel is best  ;D ;D
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Post by: jclures on May 17, 2021, 12:44:06 PM
I think he might mean these long horns. ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 17, 2021, 12:45:34 PM
Just wrong on so many levels.... :'(
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on May 17, 2021, 12:46:06 PM
They would work just as well with pushbike riders. >:D >:D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Gazza00 on May 17, 2021, 01:56:18 PM
 That's what i was getting at      Then he can look like  Boss Hog  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 17, 2021, 02:05:08 PM
That's what i was getting at      Then he can look like  Boss Hog  ;D

No i won't, as its not getting friggin bull horns on the hood.  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Moggy on May 17, 2021, 05:46:02 PM
OK, keep this in mind..... its 1964.

429 cubic inch engine, with 10.5 to 1 compression, and factory 4 bbl carb, the engine is rated @ 340hp.
Turbo 400 auto trans.
3.3 diff gears..... these ol things go pretty good for the size of 'em.
3.0 diff gears are fitted if the car doesn't have Air Cond.
A limited slip diff was an option, but we don't have that.
The tailshaft, consists of 5 universals and a centre bearing.

Our car has the following.

Climate control air cond.
Power steering.
Cruise control.
Electric windows front and back.
Electric 1/4 windows front and back.
6 way power seats.
Twilight sentinel... lights come on and off automatically at dawn and dusk.
High beam will dip itself back to low beam and back again if a car comes the other way at night time.
Power door locks.
Power trunk release.
Self closing trunk.
Factory tinted windows.
Factory fitted seat belts front and rear. (lap belts only, but the fronts are retractable)
Auto release park brake when you drive off. (good getaway car)
3 way braking system. Its drum brakes, but massive truck sized shoes and drums, with duel circuit and power booster.
Now, if you suffer a catastrophic brake fail..... out of fluid, the park brake, which is applied with your foot, can be used manually on the rear brakes without locking, to bring the car to a safe stop.

Plus, they ride really friggin good with coil springs on all corners. :D

I love my Fleetwood.
Meh......no Bluetooth

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Post by: #jonesy on May 17, 2021, 07:30:40 PM
How many ashtrays and cigarette lighters? For that era I guess one per seat?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: tryagain on May 17, 2021, 10:59:57 PM
How many ashtrays and cigarette lighters? For that era I guess one per seat?

And likely not a cup holder between them.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 18, 2021, 03:35:07 AM
How many ashtrays and cigarette lighters? For that era I guess one per seat?

Correct, one in each side of the dash and one on each back door trim.
None of the cig lighters have ever been used.

The passenger ash tray, is the bit between the glove box and the A/C vent.
You push the bottom and it swings down..... friggin huge too.
The drivers one is under the centre A/C vent.
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Post by: NZMarkb on May 18, 2021, 04:19:28 AM
Ahh, back in the days when everyone smoked on aeroplanes  :cheers:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: jclures on May 19, 2021, 09:21:53 PM
I have found your solution for painting the ford. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HyAq3tLXlw
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HyAq3tLXlw)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 20, 2021, 03:48:45 AM
Yeah, already seen those a while back...... but thanks for the link and heads up though.

I know a bloke on the northside of Brisbane with one, which i've offered to hire from him.

I also know a guy 30 minutes from here, who i'm pretty sure, would hire his normal booth on a daily basis. 
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 20, 2021, 09:53:08 AM
Well, after 2 days of playing with our oversized fish pond/swimming pool.... its Z car time again.

After 2 hours of sanding the front frame rails, its nearly ready for some masking up.

Just a fairly basic gloss black for the rails.
I've also run a tap through all the mudguard mounting tabs as well to make sure they're all good.
The two bottom ones required tweaking a tad..... way easier to do now than when we're fitting friggin panels.

Oh well, little lunch is over (just heard the bell) ..... so a masking we will go.

Would be nice to go black today, but i think its going to be tomorrow....   :D
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Post by: edz on May 20, 2021, 10:27:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnecjnpYMU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDnecjnpYMU)    ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 20, 2021, 12:28:43 PM
I hate masking up....  :'(

I've spent 2 hours and i'm still not done.

Trying to get straight lines with dodgy eyesight..... it ain't friggin easy.
Quick sanger and coffee and back i go again.

We're all arse about at the moment, because we had to work around my painter on the engine bay.

And i have to do a half decent job for two reasons, one.... its my/our car and two.... Shane won't wanna have a bar of it if i don't do a good job.

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 21, 2021, 02:32:32 PM
I took the car with a spray gun around 10 this morning.

I have to say, for a silly ol prick like myself, it came out pretty good.

After friggin hours and hours of masking everything, a tiny bit of black shot through a gap, but same wax and grease remover took care of it.

So, we painted, the two outer sides of the inner mudguards..... huh  ???
The frame rails, up to the rad support panel and then in front of the support panel.
The X member is shiny black and along with the pedal box.

Once again, it just has to be clean and painted..... she's no show car.

I may or may not, pop some photos up, but I'm beginning to think, by now, i have to be boring the tits off folks.

On a build like this, some things really float ya boat while others will think its a wank.

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Post by: NZMarkb on May 21, 2021, 02:50:54 PM
Lovin the photos mate keep em coming

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Post by: Kangaron on May 21, 2021, 03:04:02 PM
Keep them coming, for someone who has the mechanical aptitude of a house brick, I find
it all very interesting.
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Post by: Clevohead on May 21, 2021, 03:13:20 PM
Don't hold out on the pics now, come on show us :)
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 21, 2021, 03:44:12 PM
When Astrid gets home, I'll get her to take them off my phone for me.... from there, i can manage.

Bit of a teaser for next week.... i'll be making the custom speedo/gauge facia panel.
I need that done, so i can paint the dashboard. (don't want to be dicking around making Shit after its painted.)
The dash is green of course.... gloss on the bottom half and I've got a flattening agent to add to the paint for the top half.

So many steps on this build, where to have to plan so far ahead.

Plus some boring Shit next week too, like rebuild the struts and crap so they can go in and stay there.
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Post by: MDS69 on May 21, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
Looking forward to the photos. Are you using 1k or 2k.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 21, 2021, 04:55:29 PM
The entire car is going into 2k paint.

Pic 1 The original pedal box (modified a tad to suit the duel circuit brakes and booster)

Pic 2 The Nissan Skyline front X member.... hmmm... shiny.

Pic 3 These masking lines were a turd, working around some factory welds and Shit.

Pic 4 Where the rails come through the radiator support panel.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 21, 2021, 05:01:38 PM
Pics continued....  ;D

Pic 1 and 2 This is the air vent blank off piece.
All the bolts will be stainless steel and yes, i still need to make the bit to go under it.
I only picked up the alloy at lunchtime today for that.

Pic 3 This is the access points for the wheel alignment to be adjusted.
        Yes, there is a green cover to go over the friggin big hole.

Pic 4 I lost two day this week getting this painted, so not a bad week overall.
        Next week i'll second coat the pool. 

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Post by: edz on May 22, 2021, 02:21:42 AM
The Snake pit turned out pretty good Kev .. Will be bloody nice on those stinking humid  sultry summer afternoons ..Did it have a pump / filter chlorinator set up or just dose  it with salt or chlorine as needed .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 22, 2021, 03:03:57 AM
The Snake pit turned out pretty good Kev .. Will be bloody nice on those stinking humid  sultry summer afternoons ..Did it have a pump / filter chlorinator set up or just dose  it with salt or chlorine as needed .

Yeah, its set up for a pump and Shit.

About $1,250 will see a sand pump/filter unit for it.
The glass pool fencing will be the killer on the wallet.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on May 24, 2021, 10:42:47 AM
make sure it stays on the ground....

t's no surprise to see the Corvette pop a wheelstand since its original 327-cubic-inch engine was ditched in favor of a 632-cubic-inch power plant.

https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/32336/street-outlaws-racer-walks-away-from-fiery-crash-in-chevy-corvette (https://www.thedrive.com/accelerator/32336/street-outlaws-racer-walks-away-from-fiery-crash-in-chevy-corvette)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 24, 2021, 12:22:43 PM
they crash a lot of those street outlaw cars.

I'll be good.... promise.

I'm 4 hours into making a dashboard facia at the moment.

First in cardboard, now in alloy, including a little curved alloy hood for it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 29, 2021, 03:19:05 PM
What a fractured old week this has been.

Monday night, our cat carked it from old age..... we're a non pet house now.
Was a cool cat too, miss the little bruiser.

Wednesday was off at sparrows to meet up with Shane.
Thursday was with my Mum.
Friday was generator pick up day.

Christ, i always struggle to get moving with a late start too.

BUT..... we did get some stuff done.

Had nowhere to really put the X member, so i fitted the bastard..... that solved that issue.

I was cleaning up the I.D. tag in coke a cola while i was working, then put it on the seat of the mower.
Yep, went to move the mower and nearly sat on the bastard..... so fitted that too..... that solved that issue.

The booster assembly is ready to go now.... it can't go on yet, but will soon.

Then there is the dash set up..... this is doing my head in, but I'm nearly there now.

 

 
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 29, 2021, 03:28:40 PM
So, as the week progressed, we went from cardboard to alloy. (getting pretty flash now.

To even mocking up some gauges.
The speedo we are using, has tell tales within it for blinkers and hi-beam.
I needed a light for the line lock (red) and for the trans-brake (orange) and most likely, the two greens will become additional blinker units.
YEAH.... i fukked up, i'd already pre-drilled the pilot holes.
I still have some pissing around to do, mainly with the end bits where the dash fascia meets the main show.
I'll have it done by monday however.
Shit, i even mounted the tacho so i don't have to drill a painted dashboard later on.
Very 60's/70's, just bung it straight up on top of the dash.
A very period correct tacho too.

Then there was these two alloy plates that form the basis of the tower to tower brace.
These started as flat 6mm sheet.
An angle grinder cutting wheel, flap disc, file and sandpaper where my weapons of choice.
Sort of came out ok too.

You might notice a bit scalloped out on the right side plate.
That's so the chassis number is still visible.  :angel:
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 30, 2021, 03:58:42 PM
I wasn't happy with the left side tower plate.....It was a bit lumpy around the edges.

So this morning, got stuck into it again, after using a little bread plate for the correct circle..... happy now.

I've spent hours today, trying to fine tune the dash fascia..... maybe another 4 hours i guess.

This is about as good as it gets i think. Probably still looks the same to you bastards.  ???
God help the first prick that pokes fun at it...... hmmmm, i could tint the windows too... that would help.

I think, it will be dismantle all the dash tomorrow and start getting it back to bare metal and prepped for paint.
I reckon, i'll be ready to get some colour on by weeks end..... that should ensure it rains.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on May 30, 2021, 05:02:41 PM
Have you tried the dash with the steering wheel in place?  It might block out your view of the indicator lights.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on May 30, 2021, 10:21:55 PM
^^^ What Jonesy  said and or some of the veiw of the gauges . Yes I know you drive by the Tacho .  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2021, 04:03:55 AM
The speedo/gauges are in the same position as the old ones, (sort of) so expecting it should be OK.
You'll note, oil and temp are the closest to the speedo for that reason.
By the way, thanks for the question guys, it's easy to miss something doing these builds.

The only wheel i have at the moment, is the standard XF one, and its not staying there.

When the time comes to buy a new wheel, i'll get seated and take some measurements of the diameter required.
Then, we'll do the same with the wife and buy a new wheel to suit the best we can.
Shane and Doug can adapt to the car when we're doing Drag Challenge.

The speedo has an over speed buzzer, so that will help.
I expect, a bit of head movement will be needed to read all the gauges

The new wheel will be have an alloy centre and sporty wood rim..... very 60's or 70's style of thing.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 31, 2021, 07:10:50 AM
Can't get the original instrument cluster reco'd and fit any additional gauges elsewhere (maybe in the ash-tray hole)?
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2021, 10:15:46 AM
Can't get the original instrument cluster reco'd and fit any additional gauges elsewhere (maybe in the ash-tray hole)?

Not with any degree of ease Geoff.

Plus, i really want the stuff right in front of me..... my vision is bad enough, without looking around to find them. LOL.

After turning 61 earlier this month, i'm needing all the help i can get now.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on May 31, 2021, 10:53:42 AM
Not with any degree of ease Geoff.

Plus, i really want the stuff right in front of me..... my vision is bad enough, without looking around to find them. LOL.

After turning 61 earlier this month, i'm needing all the help i can get now.

Yeah, I understand all that. I'm a bit ahead of you so I sympathise with the vision thing.

How much looking at gauges would there be in an 8 sec pass?.... :o :o ;D ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on May 31, 2021, 12:11:45 PM
On the street, i always keep a close eye on the gauges.
Its more for the street i want them in easy seeing range.

On the strip, quick look before and after the burnout.
Quick look just before going into stage..

Then just unleash hell on the driveline and steer the little sucker.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 01, 2021, 10:05:36 AM
Pisser..... i was going the roll the car outside first thing and strip the dash of paint.

Worst fog here i've seen in a while.

So, bench clean up, strip down the R/H strut and order some nice new inserts.
Organised a rack seal kit and about to order the new whizz bang adjustable top plates for the legs.

Ha ha ha.... so now the sun finally breaks through.

and. we have showers forecast for Thursday.... told ya it would fukkin rain this week.

Oh well, little lunch is over.....  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 01, 2021, 03:06:40 PM
ha ha ha.... that went well.....NOT.

Got the ol Shitter outside and hooked into getting the dash bare.

About halfway through, i thought, stuff me..... there's some dust coming off this paint.
Kept going until i felt the sander thingy seemed to be a bit hotter than normal.
OH, and the dust was beginning to smell a LOT like burning electric motor parts.  :D

Stopped sanding, but the smelly dust was pouring out of a fairly rooted lecky sander now.

Managed to raid it for parts and hook it up to the angle grinder.
It was a tad fast now to be used on any panels, but the dash was fine for it.

The dash is about 90% bare now, just need to address the spots the sander bits won't go.
Hoping, to epoxy seal the dash tomorrow..... with any luck. 8)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 02, 2021, 03:18:50 PM
And epoxy seal it we did.....  :cup:

I did spent another 2.5 hours getting the dash smooooooooth and paintless.
I then spent another hour and cleaned the windscreen grooves to within an inch of their lives.

Before mixing the sealer, as i knew i'd have some left over, i spent another 30 minutes and prepped the anti-roll bar for the diff.

I find, its too hard to mix the epoxy sealer in baby amounts, but i breezed in the dash, windscreen cavity and the anti-roll bar.
Still managed to tip out a tiny bit..... but i can live with that.

Don't care now if it rains/showers tomorrow.....  8)

Dougie sent me a pic today of our new ignition switch he sourced for Marvin.
Autopro Gatton called and my strut inserts are in.
Astrid paid for the camber/caster plates last night, so they should leave in a day or two.

Pretty good week so far in the Jeeper's..... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on June 02, 2021, 06:53:54 PM
Actually can see things progressing quickly.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: chillipepperz on June 02, 2021, 08:33:35 PM
This is a great thread Jeepers! Just loving your commitment to quality and the planning you do. You obviously know what you’re doing! Cant wait to see where you end up in terms of performance.

Cheers!
Andrew
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2021, 03:59:13 AM
Thank you gentlemen.

Yeah, progress will go pretty good soon, as i get the front and rear ends back into the car.

There's been plenty of nights that i would be awake at 1am trying to figure a good or better way of doing.... well.... technical stuff.
Performing unspeakable acts and fitting stuff that just flat out shouldn't be there, can be challenging at times. (read... does my head in)

Sleeping pretty good these days..... yay.  :cup:

The time consuming bit over the next two weeks is the cleaning and painting of parts prior to fit up.
Who knows, it may even make it back onto its wheels soon.

Ol Marvin still needs a trip to the beach (Sunshine Coast) yet to see his Uncle Shane for the turbo mounts.
It'll be nice to just get him out in the sunshine for a day.
Trying to do the turbo mount on my own was just too friggin difficult.

Funny thing, I nearly didn't post the pics yesterday, i still worry I'm just blabbering on about Shit.
But, the thread seems to have a big following, so i'll keep plugging away.
When folks comment on stuff, it lets me know they are interested in where the build is up to.

If any one part of this build is going to be boring as bat Shit, it will be when i have a lash at doing my own body work.
As Johnny Cash would say, just one piece at a time.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on June 03, 2021, 05:53:43 AM
Funny thing, I nearly didn't post the pics yesterday, i still worry I'm just blabbering on about Shit.
But, the thread seems to have a big following, so i'll keep plugging away.
When folks comment on stuff, it lets me know they are interested in where the build is up to.

Keep it coming Kev, I'd recon there are few like me that are enjoying the build, but don't comment cause we're dumb as dog s#!t with sort of thing  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 03, 2021, 06:22:23 AM
This is from last weekend......  :cheers:

It is a de-stroked 4lt Barra, and they do turn it to 10,000rpm.

But, at the end of the day, its a friggin 6cyl, heavy ol Falcon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWcIcUMRj_4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWcIcUMRj_4)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 04, 2021, 10:10:26 AM
wouldnt calling these guys have been quicker :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbscQK_vP8g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbscQK_vP8g)
only took em a week :P
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 04, 2021, 11:37:09 AM
Buggered if i know how they do it that fast...... and besides, i'm older too.... so there.  :P.  ;D

Great day for parts delivery today.

The groovy camber/caster plates from Suspension Concepts are in.
The new front shocks from Autopro Gatton are in.
The new ignition switch and tell tale lights from Jas Oceanic Burleigh Heads are in.

The lower control arms, have excellent ball joints, but with knackered boots.
Autopro had a pair of generic boots that fit perfect for $15.00.... winner winner, steak and veg for dinner.

I had a heap of loose change here, and i mean, LOOSE CHANGE, so counted it out here before dumping it on Heritage Gatton.
There was $13.00 in 5 cent pieces alone...... pulled a $110 all up.  :cup:

Not 100% sure, but i think my picture was being stapled to the wall as i left.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 04, 2021, 12:52:32 PM
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers
Buggered if i know how they do it that fast.
come on, wouldnt be the first time you've finished that fast... :P

I'd say its cause "THEY" - and your just 1 person...  but still its pretty impressive result, although its not finished either...
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on June 04, 2021, 03:07:11 PM

I had a heap of loose change here, and i mean, LOOSE CHANGE, so counted it out here before dumping it on Heritage Gatton.
There was $13.00 in 5 cent pieces alone...... pulled a $110 all up.  :cup:

Not 100% sure, but i think my picture was being stapled to the wall as i left.

Ha ha…..nice of them because places don’t have to accept change anymore over $20 I think it is.

Go figure because it’s still legal tender ??
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Kangaron on June 04, 2021, 05:22:13 PM
They only have to accept up to 10 x value.
ie 5c to 50c.
10c to $1 etc etc
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 05, 2021, 03:27:06 AM
They only have to accept up to 10 x value.
ie 5c to 50c.
10c to $1 etc etc

Is that correct.... maybe because i do have an account with them?
Might be ok with it, being a small rural town bank perhaps.

I'd just blow the day, and keep getting back in the line up until they did it all.  ;D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 06, 2021, 02:48:37 PM
Yesterday, Ben the welder guy came around to do some lines with me.

I found a thin spot on the left rear quarter a week or two ago.
So, 7am yesterday, i started drilling holes in the quarter panel until i found some decent material.
It started out the size of a ten cent piece, by the time i was done, i'd cut a section out, 180mm x 48mm.

Ben rolled in at 10, we got some welding done and all is good in the world again.

I gave the R/H suspension bits a degrease ready for some $2.50 satin black to go on.
Then i thought, hmmm, might hit it with some paint stripper.
Then i thought, if i go steady Freddy with a worn flap disc. i can knock a few burrs and bumps off without hacking into the arms.
Then i thought, a nice shot of 2 pac gloss black might look better than $2.50 satin black.

So, i now have some bare metal parts, ready for epoxy sealer, then some primer, then some gloss black.
(would've painted 'em today, but i knocked out three hours on the mower in the middle of it all.)

I have no idea why this build is taking so friggin long.  ???

Interestingly, it's one year today that we bought the Zephyr home.
So much for trying to have it completed within a year.  :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

I'll pop up 3 pics later after Astrid loads them.
She's doing the wifey things at the moment, around renovating/painting etc the place.

Added some advertising from 1959..... swing into Zephyr.... ha ha ha.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on June 06, 2021, 06:11:18 PM
I can see the conversation going on in a modern advertising agency.

"I want to put grown adults on a swing"

After a bit of a pause.

"What's a swing?"
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 09, 2021, 03:13:06 PM
OK, after feeling crap for 24 to 48 hours, we're back into working on Marvin.

Yep, working, slow, tedious work too.....

Sanding the R/F suspension strut, coil spring and sway bar back to bare metal.... LOL True thing.

If the weather plays nice tomorrow, as in, not too friggin cold, i'll epoxy seal some stuff.
Sure hope i live long enough to see this thing finished.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 10, 2021, 03:16:04 PM
Way too cold for painting today..... putting some trust into tomorrow.

At least, i got everything masked up ready today.
Quick wipe over with grease and wax remover and we're good to go.

I did rebuild my creeper today with 2 new wheels, after my fat arse broke it.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2021, 02:25:24 PM
Not too favourable early on weather/temp wise, so i sandblasted the rear venetians for the car.

I have a compressor here off Mal, who i worked for back in the 80's and i'd really like to give it back.
Mine is just a tad light for the blaster.
I'll run the compressor back to him on Sunday now.  :angel:

So, after finding out how tedious it is blasting the venetians, they did get back to bare metal. yay.

Dragged all the bits to be painted and sat 'em in the sun.
At just after 11am, it was now or never, so i mixed some epoxy primer and hooked in.
Much later, and the shadows move in..... not, not the singing group the The Shadows, the ones the trees cast.
So, we finally have the bits coated and i think it will be normal primer day tomorrow.
Bit a of a light sand with 1000 and maybe some colour after that.

Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 11, 2021, 02:27:32 PM
OH,maybe some pics later on.... i still can't do it from Ph. to puter.  :-[
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Post by: gronk on June 11, 2021, 05:39:02 PM
OH,maybe some pics later on.... i still can't do it from Ph. to puter.  :-[

You’re gonna have to drag yourself into the 21st century one day !!!   ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2021, 03:39:21 AM
You’re gonna have to drag yourself into the 21st century one day !!!   ;D

She was trying to show me how to do it one day.

It ended with her yelling that she would do it for the rest of time, that it would be easier for her and i should back away from the computer....quietly.  ???
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2021, 08:40:59 AM
couple of pics..... not that much to see really, just lots of time spent.

At least once the front end is done and in, it will be clean.

The plan is, gloss black on everything with the sway bar and springs in body colour, just to split it up a tad.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2021, 08:43:19 AM
The venetians are just a turd to blast and paint.

Sunrise yesterday morning.....early bird gets the worm.

Mind you, the second mouse gets the cheese, so buggered if i know.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2021, 11:57:39 AM
OK, we got 2 coats of grey primer over all the bits and pieces.

Ran out of primer too, just as i was finishing...... timed that well.

Feeling pretty chuffed now and will be wrapped when this front end stuff is all done.
Friggin time consuming.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Moggy on June 12, 2021, 12:36:40 PM
OH,maybe some pics later on.... i still can't do it from Ph. to puter.  :-[
Mate, get Tapatalk on your phone & do it direct

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 12, 2021, 12:37:34 PM
Your doing the easy stuff at the moment Kev .. ;D  The last 10% of the build will take 90% of the time to finish it . as the saying goes .
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 12, 2021, 04:24:39 PM
Mate, get Tapatalk on your phone & do it direct

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I would, if i had even the slightest clue what i was doing.

Edz, there is a ton of butt hurt to happen yet...... Not my first rodeo, so i'm covered in love lube and braced for impact.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: gronk on June 12, 2021, 06:08:12 PM
Mate, get Tapatalk on your phone & do it direct

Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk

He has…..it’s called phone a friend !  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Robbo on June 12, 2021, 07:02:04 PM
Here ya go Kev, you gunna need a set of these to hang off the rear view mirror. Geeze, glad i thought of it.
That's OK no need to thank me. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210612/27b8fb204e75c5802b4508fffdf7e704.jpg)

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Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: edz on June 13, 2021, 12:16:31 AM
Dont forget the #8 ball on the shifter and the Hawian hula dancer for the dash, either Robbo
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2021, 03:56:36 AM
Nup, no fuzzy dice or hula girls.... or even an eight ball shifter in my cars.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on June 13, 2021, 06:55:20 AM
Nup, no fuzzy dice or hula girls.... or even an eight ball shifter in my cars.

No toy dog on the parcel shelf with eyes that light up when you hit the brakes??
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Spada on June 13, 2021, 07:25:37 AM
At the very least I'd expect a crochet covered box of tissues on the parcel shelf
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2021, 07:34:23 AM
Bastards....  :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: GeoffA on June 13, 2021, 07:47:28 AM
At the very least I'd expect a crochet covered box of tissues on the parcel shelf

Bowls hat??
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: #jonesy on June 13, 2021, 09:04:31 AM
One of these bolted to the grill
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Bird on June 13, 2021, 10:10:31 AM
(http://www.bsalert.com/f-store/hitch_nuts.jpg)
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2021, 01:01:22 PM
No....
No....
AND NO....

 :D
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: NZMarkb on June 13, 2021, 03:51:52 PM
Hey your the one that started the joke
I mean making a Pomie jolopie into a race car, and yes I know where the AC Cobra started 😂😂
Seriously though, loving the build, keep the photos coming Mrs Jeepers👍
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 13, 2021, 03:58:52 PM
MRS JEEPERS INDEED.....

Apart from arranging a spray booth today, i've done nothing towards the car today.
Feeling a bit disappointed with myself too.
Title: Re: JEEPER'S.... Street/Strip Jalopy Build.
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 15, 2021, 10:50:17 AM
On sunday, i did the correct thing and returned a borrowed compressor from my old Boss, Mal.

Mine wasn't big enough, to run the blaster.

So my compressor Shit itself yesterday..... what were the odds.

I got the final coat of green over some parts with my baby compressor, before hooking into my bigger one for repairs.
I've got it sorted, i think.
Everything was set to painting parts today, when mother nature threw us a storm this morning at 8;30am and 14mm of rain.

Finally have parts in the sun to warm up..... sure hope the compressor hangs in there. ???

While I'm playing with stuff, I needed a set of 1 inch lowering blocks to play with some heights.
They won't remain in the car.... more to just experiment with as far as the wet spaghetti springs go.

So, i made a pair of lowering blocks this morning while it was raining.

The funny thing is, i reckon i can make the ol wet spaghetti springs work and work well..... from my experience in making the V8 Datto hook up.
If not, we'll go to a Gazzard Bros. single mono leaf set up..... time will tell.

The whizz bang front strut adjusting plates don't fit the factory R31 struts.    bugger it.

The maker of them in Wyong, told me to ship a complete strut to them..... he'll sort it out by making a modification to it all so they will work on the factory set up..... well, factory Nissan at least.

Are..... the joys of poking things in places they were never designed to go.....  ;D
I'm hoping the modification isn't just a jar of Love Lube.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 15, 2021, 01:57:28 PM
Pretty happy today now, even if my dodgy knee is on fire.

A whole host of black bits down.

Tomorrow and Thursday, will be "service the Fleetwood and give it some loving" day/days.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 16, 2021, 02:09:57 PM
HOLY CRAP...... WHAT A DAY.  :D

In the shed by 7am....

Strip the masking tape off yesterday's painted items.
Assemble the heim joints to the drop down adjusters/links for the Gazzard Bros. anti rotational bar.
Did a trial fit of a green spring to a black strut..... i thought it looked pretty good..... Astrid loved it.
Then it was the Fleetwood up in the air for some love.
Oil and filter changed.
Got all the wheels off to de-dust the massive drum brakes.
Made a start and got the left front all nice and clean again.
Slipped inside the house and cleaned the lint out of the shower extractor fan. (forgot to do it yesterday.)
Pulled the plastic tank overflow off one of the tanks that was leaking.
Took everything back to squeaky clean, re-sealed and re-assembled that. 
Finally the fog started to lift, so the rear venetians got 2 coats of white inside and out.
Cleaned the gun..... hate cleaning the gun.... and got ready to run some black.
Managed to gloss black the diff U bolts, front sway bar link pins and the front spring mounts for the leaf springs.
Yay, got to clean the gun again.....
Packed a few things away.
Back on the Fleetwood again tomorrow.
Tomorrow may include showers during the day, hence why some parts got painted today.

I bought brilliant white for the venetians.... i pity the poor bastard who gets to drive behind the Zephyr.

Some pics will appear... today, tomorrow or the next day.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 17, 2021, 08:58:42 AM
A few pics..... i know ya like pics.

Pic 1, 2 and three.... NOT WHAT I WANTED AT 8:30 Tuesday morning.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 17, 2021, 09:01:29 AM
and some more....
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 17, 2021, 09:03:49 AM
Last batch.....LOL  ;D

Gotta love GM and their black engine bays.

Drop a screw or a nut in there, its not being found this side of the next ice age.
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Post by: NZMarkb on June 17, 2021, 09:37:16 AM
Thanks Mrs Jeepers
Keep those photo's coming :cup: :cup:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 17, 2021, 03:24:13 PM
Well, the Fleetwood is off the stands and on all 4 wheels again.  :cup:

I need to get a hoist soon i think..... That friggin Caddy is a huge car to put on jack stands.

The Fleetwood came up a treat, as i expected it would or should.

Check a couple of fluids, fit the 2 front wheel trims and the tyre pressures and i'm back on Marvin again.

Might try to finish some Shit on the dash so it can be painted..... tomorrow is whole new day.
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Post by: jwb on June 18, 2021, 03:26:50 PM
OH,maybe some pics later on.... i still can't do it from Ph. to puter.  :-[
Using tap talk I find it easier on the phone than the pc when adding photos!
Try it jc!
Cheers

Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 19, 2021, 12:00:58 PM
I've had to concede....

I really wanted the headlight switch on the right of the dash and the ignition switch on the left.
Remember, nothing is where it should be with the previous dash mods.

Try as i might to form a solution, its ignition on the right and left side for the lights.  ???
I could weld up the holes and re-drill 'em, but then i have the chrome section that goes from side to side to contend with.

Too friggin hard in the end. Its only Astrid, Shane, Doug and myself who'll be driving it i guess..... we'll just have to deal with it.
Too friggin cold to paint today too.

Masking Shit up, and hoping like hell for a warmer day tomorrow.
At the moment,  16.3 with a feels like of 8.4.
No way in hell, the paint will tack off in that.

Plus, its friggin windy to boot.
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 19, 2021, 02:50:26 PM
Even though the day weather wise, gave me lemons, we still managed to get some progress.

The dash is all masked up ready for primer tomorrow....YAY.

The boot is all masked up to have the inside of the rear quarters hit with the body sealer stuff.... YAY.

The weather is looking much more favourable... YAY.

On the subject of the body sealer, its good stuff....  but... i think after a few road miles, its going to look average underneath.
I don't want a dirty look, but i don't need a gloss show car style of look either.
So, before i start bolting Shit in, i'm going to tip the turd up again and do a very light etch primer coat over the underside.
Then, we'll throw a little flattening agent into some gloss black just to knock the edge off the gloss and seal the underside with a 2 pac coating.

It should hold its look better and be easier to clean..... well, that's the plan.
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Post by: Foo on June 19, 2021, 03:17:07 PM
I would expect that the westerlies will be still here tomorrow.  ;)

Foo
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 19, 2021, 03:32:24 PM
I would expect that the westerlies will be still here tomorrow.  ;)

Foo

Yeah, but i can put the Fleetwood out and do it inside the shed. I'll put a heater on the dash if i have to.
Its the temp today... tomorrow's looks much better.... so stop raining on my parade. LOL  ;D
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Post by: edz on June 20, 2021, 02:26:25 AM
Throw a decent photo up of the dash chrome panel Section where the headlight / ignition switch goes,  Kev
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 20, 2021, 04:45:59 AM
The chrome trim has a pattern embossed into it.
The holes the way they are, big and little on opposite sides is just the opposite to what i preferred,
Not something that can be easily modified and besides, the ignition switch hole has been filed to accept and hold the switch tight when turning the key yesterday.

Another consideration at first, was whether i needed arm restraints when racing and being about to reach the ignition when strapped in.
The right arm restraint needs to be short, the left not so much, as you have to be able to use the shifter and deploy a parachute.
I checked with ANDRA and the IHRA and i can use a window net and no restraints..... so that eased the issue a lot.
It really came down to aesthetics and being easy on the eye looks wise.

No going back now, it will be what it will be... grey primer going on around 11am. :cup:
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Post by: GeoffA on June 20, 2021, 08:04:25 AM
Will the rego/roady mob let you run a tacho up on top of the dash?
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 20, 2021, 09:40:06 AM
Will the rego/roady mob let you run a tacho up on top of the dash?

Yeah, should be ok, but can be unplugged and unbolted for the engineering guy pretty quickly.  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 20, 2021, 12:14:50 PM
Just a little bit more on the tacho thing. (I had to bugger off before to do a second primer coat)

Its more of a period correct item rather than being used as a tacho, if you know what i mean.

Being a full manualised auto, the tacho will be great for Astrid as gets use to shifting up and down the box in traffic.

For racing, we have a shift light to say when to punch another gear.

The weather here today is mint.... warn enough to get it done and still no wind yet....YAY.
I see no reason at this point, why we won't have some colour on the dash over Tuesday and Wednesday.
I'm done for the day now.... having the arvo off.... can't sand much yet anyway, i want the primer to really go off.

Pic 1. It will be ok on the day.

Pic 2. Brand new Narva light and ignition switches in place.

Pic 3. All masked up and waiting for the weather to come good yesterday.

Pic 4.  Primer grey today.

Pic 5. The Fleetwood all serviced now and ready for action.



 
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Post by: edz on June 20, 2021, 12:32:12 PM
Could still swap the ign  and headlight switches .. just enlarge the left hole to suit the ign sw and have two externaly identical Ally bezel surrounds turned up, with one that fits under the ignition lock ring and the other with a stub spacer that fills the gap between the dash and snugly locates the headlight switch .
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 20, 2021, 01:11:33 PM
Nah... too much dicking around.

No bastard out here could mill something up very quickly.
My other option is my old boss Mal, who would do it for me for free, but he's in Brisbane.

Life's hard enough.....  ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 22, 2021, 01:47:31 PM
Yesterday was a lost day.

Today however, much better.

Went to the quacks at 9am to renew my script for my blood pressure.
Doc does my pressure, looks me square in the eye.... and says, you feeling OK?
ME.... yeah, fine.... really good.

HER... Does the pump up again..... you sure..... your prssure is up a bit.

ME... nah,its always a little on the high side of OK.

HER... its 165 over 110.....

ME.... Fukkin dumb look on my face.... is that not good.

Great, so now i have Mrs Jeepers needing to do my blood pressure every morning for the next 7 days.
Then i have to report back to little Miss You've Got High Blood Pressure

Anyway, the good news is, the dash is green, flat on top, gloss down below.
The boot area got its first lick of green.
I painted the tappet cover for the motor, as i'm curious to see how it will look.
Its a thing for nearly everything with a barra, to colour code the top cover.

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Post by: gronk on June 22, 2021, 03:16:45 PM
Ha ha, you of all people should know running a car with water temp at 115 deg is not good for long term longevity !!  ??? ???

They are NOT good figures, and I’m not a doc !!
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Post by: edz on June 22, 2021, 03:41:05 PM
I  would have thought with those pressures, it ment all the tollerances in the bearings and the rings in a 60 year old pump and hoses were still up to spec ..even with the bit of Blow by and fume  that  vents from time to time  out of the breathers ..  Would have to question the occasional rattle in the bottom end though ..  ;D ;D
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 22, 2021, 03:56:36 PM
My Dad died of a stroke, so there is a history there.

But, i was held up in road works as well on the way to the docs and had to drive the Fleetwood through the dust the idiots were stirring up.

I reckon that was what was causing the high blood pressure.
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Post by: gronk on June 22, 2021, 05:08:11 PM
My Dad died of a stroke, so there is a history there.

But, i was held up in road works as well on the way to the docs and had to drive the Fleetwood through the dust the idiots were stirring up.

I reckon that was what was causing the high blood pressure.

Ha ha, denial won’t help !!
The good thing about a radiator is you can crack the cap and relieve the pressure…..not so easy on a human !!
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 23, 2021, 03:04:33 AM
Ha ha, denial won’t help !!
The good thing about a radiator is you can crack the cap and relieve the pressure…..not so easy on a human !!

I agree.... how would a river in Egypt help me. LOL  ??? ;D

Oh, i'll be good.....  :angel:
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 23, 2021, 08:20:09 AM
Pic 1. Flat green on top. Just the same gloss I'm spraying with a 1:1 mix of flattening agent.

Pic 2. The bottom in nice shiny gloss.

Pic 3. The finished product.... sort of. Gotta get some gauges soon and do a full fit up.

Pic 4. The boot area scored some colour..... only a single coat on here for the moment.

Pic 5. This is just a test for when we plonk the engine back shortly for the turbo mounts.
         Not sure if it will stay colour coded or not..... Astrid loves it.
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Post by: NZMarkb on June 23, 2021, 08:32:36 AM
Thanks Mrs J
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Post by: Jeepers Creepers on June 23, 2021, 08:39:11 AM
Thanks Mrs J

She loaded them this morning, straight after my blood pressure check. (159/88 this morning.)