Post by: xcvator on May 24, 2018, 12:10:04 PM
Post by: Flighty (WA) on May 24, 2018, 12:47:55 PM
Especially about travelling in convoy and not leaving enough room to safely overtake.
have often found in W.A these convoys and unable to overtake in a car let alone 53 metres of truck
:cheers:
Post by: Fizzie on May 25, 2018, 01:41:19 PM
Post by: BTMNDR on June 05, 2018, 04:27:51 PM
Post by: Bird on June 05, 2018, 04:49:28 PM
Quote from: BTMNDR
Of course when one is dawdling down the road and sees a road train approaching from the rear, or a gaggle of other vehicles, one could always do the polite thing and safely pull over to the side of the road and allow them to pass. :angel:
Certainly not the Australian way..
or grey nomad way.. 'its my right to be on the road, I've been driving for 120yrs...'
Post by: rossm on June 05, 2018, 05:53:17 PM
Great clip with very good advice.
Especially about travelling in convoy and not leaving enough room to safely overtake.
have often found in W.A these convoys and unable to overtake in a car let alone 53 metres of truck
:cheers:
Know a bloke who does some caravan towing training and I asked him once does he emphasise to caravanners that they will not come to harm if they do not travel in groups of three, or more, 50m apart.
He just smiled and said hde does and added something about the herd mentality being an overpowering instinct ...
Post by: barnray on June 05, 2018, 05:59:57 PM
Post by: macca on June 05, 2018, 06:31:38 PM
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Post by: tedota on June 05, 2018, 07:41:47 PM
Post by: cardinal28 on June 06, 2018, 12:14:42 PM
Post by: petrolburner on June 06, 2018, 07:47:29 PM
Post by: Bird on June 06, 2018, 08:34:20 PM
Or the grey nomads could just do the speed limit like the trucks do and then there is no need for a 50plus metre road train to be on the wrong side of the road!!:cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup: :cup:
Post by: GeoffA on June 06, 2018, 08:39:33 PM
Post by: glenm64 on June 06, 2018, 09:03:54 PM
If things go pear shaped 10kph makes a lot of difference.
Its all about courtesy and its a 2 way thing.
Cheers Glen
Post by: Bird on June 06, 2018, 09:59:03 PM
Are we suggesting that the truck companies' commercial interests overide the safety of other road users?or the other 100's of road users who would like to sit on 100 in a 100 zone and not 80 :D
Post by: GeoffA on June 06, 2018, 10:08:10 PM
or the other 100's of road users who would like to sit on 100 in a 100 zone and not 80 :DSpeed limits are a maximum speed, not a compulsory speed.
Nobody should be expected to travel at a speed at which they are not comfortable.
As Glen has previously stated, courtesy is a 2 way thing......tolerance as well.
Post by: petrolburner on June 06, 2018, 10:53:53 PM
I tow on the limit where conditions permit, that includes with my old Wakesetter boat which was 2700kg.
Let’s face it though, Maude and Claude nomad out there choose to sit on 80kph on a flat open road purely for financial reasons as they are saving fuel, I can cop someone sitting on say 90 or 95kph but those that are doing 80kph or below (and I have come across them going below 80!) on a straight flat county road are pests, overtaking ability is the primary reason I purchased my Y62 as there nothing worse ham getting stuck behind a moving roadblock when you’ve got no reserve to get around them.
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2018, 09:51:53 AM
Quote from: GeoffA
Speed limits are a maximum speed, not a compulsory speed.but when you know your holding up 20 cars and 10 trucks, and still refuse to pull over because its your right - you get what you deserve.
Nobody should be expected to travel at a speed at which they are not comfortable.
As Glen has previously stated, courtesy is a 2 way thing......tolerance as well.
Comes back to common sense, and courtesy. If your 89 and not in a rush to get anywhere, why hold up others ?
Post by: Pottsy on June 07, 2018, 09:58:35 AM
Comes back to common sense, and courtesy. If your 89 and not in a rush to get anywhere, why hold up others ?
I hope you are not suggesting they use their mirrors, give yourself a little slap Bird. :D
Post by: GeoffA on June 07, 2018, 09:59:03 AM
Post by: Paddler Ed on June 07, 2018, 09:59:43 AM
Fair call, but IMO there are a lot of huge vans being dragged along by tow vehicles (aiming squarely at dual cab utes) that are marginal to tow said weight at best. If your going to buy a 3500kg van get a vehicle that is capable of handling it. Manufacturers have a lot to answer for with their tow ratings.
I think this is the main problem... although old Toyota Coasters etc are also as bad...
Post by: jclures on June 07, 2018, 10:04:02 AM
Driving on roads is a two way street, common sense tells you if you can give the trucks room you should, but it is not a right trucks have, and they should also use some common sense on the road.
Post by: krisandkev on June 07, 2018, 11:36:14 AM
Not just caravans, last Tuesday morning I had a truck driver on the Kuranda range just ignore all the marked sections for slow vehicles turn off to allow other motorists to go by. Any double lane sections he just put the foot down and made it very hard to pass even then as it is marked as a 60k road.
Driving on roads is a two way street, common sense tells you if you can give the trucks room you should, but it is not a right trucks have, and they should also use some common sense on tthe road.
Well said. We tow a 3.5t van and hate getting behind the slow caravans and cars! We usually sit on the speed limit and if not get out of the way if traffic gets behind us. That is if the road allows us. Some main roads and so called highways are so bad there is little choice. But I have been caught out many a time where I do pull over and then the car will get pass and slow down! Then we get stuck. Yep, bad drivers everywhere. Kevin
Post by: Bird on June 07, 2018, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: krisandkev
But I have been caught out many a time where I do pull over and then the car will get pass and slow down!
I've never understood people doing this.... they follow you doing the sidewinder left to right, steam coming out of ears... you let them go, then they go nowhere... same as passing lane racers.
WTF?
Post by: macca on June 07, 2018, 12:58:04 PM
I've never understood people doing this.... they follow you doing the sidewinder left to right, steam coming out of ears... you let them go, then they go nowhere... same as passing lane racers.Yeah but somewhere in the next 1000 km there maybe a hill that slows Kev down, so better pass just in case, see over the next 1000k they are going to save 5.2 seconds of their valuable time by not being stuck behind Kev if he does happen across that hill, they don't give a Shit about the hour and half it adds to Kev's trip
WTF?
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Post by: Bird on June 07, 2018, 01:12:51 PM
Quote from: macca
Yeah but somewhere in the next 1000 km there maybe a hill that slows Kev down, so better pass just in case, see over the next 1000k they are going to save 5.2 seconds of their valuable time by not being stuck behind Kev if he does happen across that hill, they don't give a Shit about the hour and half it adds to Kev's tripI think it comes back to the fact Kev is towing a 3.5t mobile roadblock and the assumption he must be going slow.... must pass at all costs.
I know from bike riding days its better to be infront of and clear of ****tards than behind them :)
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on June 07, 2018, 01:31:17 PM
Post by: macca on June 07, 2018, 01:55:13 PM
I think it comes back to the fact Kev is towing a 3.5t mobile roadblock and the assumption he must be going slow.... must pass at all costs.Thats not a nice thing to call Kev
I know from bike riding days its better to be infront of and clear of ****tards than behind them :)
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Post by: krisandkev on June 07, 2018, 02:38:07 PM
Thats not a nice thing to call Kev
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Has he been talking to my wife. :angel:
But I have found that even with our cruiser. People want to get in front of you because it is a big car so must be slow. Then you have to pass them again and they give you a look. Kevin
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on June 07, 2018, 07:09:06 PM
It's because they want to sit right on your hammer and then cannot see past your truck.
That's why they pass you, they want to see what's going on.
Then they ruin everybody else's day by slowing down and trying to park under the front of your vehicle.