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Title: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on February 07, 2018, 11:01:31 AM
Yeah I know probably not quite as good as "Ozpig" but helluva price difference too

https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/specials/weekly-deals/adventure-kings-camp-oven-stove.html?videos=1 (https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/specials/weekly-deals/adventure-kings-camp-oven-stove.html?videos=1)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: JusyApples on February 07, 2018, 11:28:02 AM
Only 1 way to find out
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on February 07, 2018, 11:32:10 AM
Only 1 way to find out
Can you give us a report after you've got it please ?
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2018, 11:34:09 AM
Grab an old keg, a slab and go to Bretts and make one for the price of a box of piss.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on February 07, 2018, 11:54:19 AM
Grab an old keg, a slab and go to Bretts and make one for the price of a box of piss.
Kegs too big and Bretts a non drinker
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 03:18:40 PM
These are a knock off of the frontier stove, a british design originally for survival or disaster scenarios.  They can also fit into tents with the appropriate options.

They were never sold into Australia, as far as I know.  I have always been interested in them but the price plus transport was just to much.

They should be better than the "ozpig" design for cooking
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 03:31:28 PM
Thanks for pointing these out.  Just bought one   ;D
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on February 07, 2018, 04:01:43 PM
Thanks for pointing these out.  Just bought one   ;D

And we now expect a review in the coming weeks  :cheers:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Hairs on February 07, 2018, 04:27:06 PM
And we now expect a review in the coming weeks  :cheers:
With pictures of cause  :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 05:16:43 PM
Bit hot atm  :laugh:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Stewart on February 07, 2018, 06:22:40 PM
They look rather small but might be a cheaper option than buying an Ozpig
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 07:07:56 PM
My take on this is that these have flat top, so more chance of transmitting heat to your pan, kettle etc.  Only a guess I'm afraid but that plus the light weight and small pack down size are what me so keen.  I hope I'm not disappointed.

I think that the water heater would be a great addition https://belltentboutique.co.uk/products/frontier-stove-water-heater
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: BaseCamp on February 07, 2018, 07:10:16 PM
Their website says all in 10.5 kgs weight.

Seems to be a lot of metal bits goes into the thing to only weigh that little...

Maybe that's why the price is ok?

My fold up fire pit that was done by a  myswagger was a toe breaker by comparison, (remember to pack the steel caps)....      ... and it was basically just two folding pieces of sheet metal....

It'll be interesting to see what the field report says in terms of robustness and quality...

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Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2018, 07:24:51 PM
How many different cooking things to people need to take? and people complain their rigs are overweight.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 07:28:29 PM
I need to take

1 good 2 burner lpg stove
1 small lpg weber BBQ
1 small wood burning stove
i small lpg radiator

WHAT DO YOU Take?
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2018, 07:33:35 PM
I need to take

1 good 2 burner lpg stove
1 small lpg weber BBQ
1 small wood burning stove
i small lpg radiator

WHAT DO YOU Take?
this and a 2kg cylinder
(https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt1/524/524474.jpg)

then a ****in huge campfire to keep warm.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 07:35:18 PM
I know that this stove is an indulgence BUT

it weights the same as a gas bottle & a 2 burner stove
it allows me to cook and heat myself when camp fires are not allowed3
I can use the same cooking equipment I use on the gas
the fuel is free and readily available (small sticks)

If you think this is a self justification you're right, but it's true  :laugh:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 07:36:28 PM
I like those colemans  :cup:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on February 07, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
I need to take

1 good 2 burner lpg stove
1 small lpg weber BBQ
1 small wood burning stove
i small lpg radiator

WHAT DO YOU Take?

Nothing,he doesn't go camping anymore  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Pottsy on February 07, 2018, 07:36:44 PM
this and a 2kg cylinder
(https://media.midwayusa.com/productimages/880x660/alt1/524/524474.jpg)

then a ****in huge campfire to keep warm.

Hey Bird, what do carry to cook with on the open fire?
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2018, 07:43:04 PM
Hey Bird, what do carry to cook with on the open fire?
i dont
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on February 07, 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Hey Bird, what do carry to cook with on the open fire?
A shovel
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 07, 2018, 08:58:27 PM
A shovel
i actually bought one of these at a club nite at aussie disposals in Nov...waiting to use
https://www.aussiedisposals.com.au/26cm-steel-fry-pan (https://www.aussiedisposals.com.au/26cm-steel-fry-pan)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
i actually bought one of these at a club nite at aussie disposals in Nov...waiting to use
https://www.aussiedisposals.com.au/26cm-steel-fry-pan (https://www.aussiedisposals.com.au/26cm-steel-fry-pan)

looks good if you season it properly  :cheers:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 07, 2018, 09:10:14 PM
Here is my take on camping cooking

i have cooked for my family for 30 years and a while professionally.  i really enjoy it, it is not something I hand to my wife as "womens work".  Therefore I am willing to indulge myself knowing that we will all enjoy the fruits of my labours (and the equipment I buy).  I guess that if it was my wife who cooked I probably say the same??

Camping is great, it's better with good food!!!
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: GBC on February 08, 2018, 08:31:09 AM
Same here. I'm the son of a chef and spent a large part of my young life in my parent's restaurant. Cooking is just a trade, not an art. I do most of it at home and all of it while camping and that is OK. The (isolated) kitchen section of my current camper is a huge part of why we chose it.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: trinityalyce on February 08, 2018, 08:41:25 AM
My concern would be the weight difference if you're comparing it to an Ozpig.

Ozpig = 21kg
Supacentre stove = 10.5kg

There'd have to be a quality difference there...

But that said, it all comes down to the price its worth to you and the function it'll serve. Just like why we're happy with our $30ish VicOffroad firepit and haven't forked out for the SnowPeak one. ;)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Pottsy on February 08, 2018, 11:39:39 AM
Here is my take on camping cooking

i have cooked for my family for 30 years and a while professionally.  i really enjoy it, it is not something I hand to my wife as "womens work".  Therefore I am willing to indulge myself knowing that we will all enjoy the fruits of my labours (and the equipment I buy).  I guess that if it was my wife who cooked I probably say the same??

Camping is great, it's better with good food!!!

No issue with that, I am the chief cook and bottle washer in our family and  I use Weber baby q, 2 burner stove, Dutch oven anda fold out bbq plate when camping. All dependent on weather, fire season etc as to which I use.
Good food and variety when camping is essential.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: The punter on February 08, 2018, 11:57:03 AM
Wouldn't have anything but my ozpig which i'm pretty sure will outlast me. have the offset chimney which is quite useful when it pi$$es down with rain and everyone is running for cover.

A lot of the 4WDsupacentre stuff is like Ikea furniture, you don't actually own it, you are just renting it till it $hits itself. Nothing wrong with renting, lots of people do it.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 08, 2018, 12:06:17 PM
JasonB at the Yack weekend lived off his Ozpig!
brekkie, lunch and dinner and warmth... first person I've seen utilize theirs fully.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: PWE on February 08, 2018, 02:28:59 PM
A little of topic, but are these 'cookers' allowed on Fraser Island (beach camping)
Below is from the NPSR web-site

A fully enclosed cooking or heating appliance, preferably using gas or fuel, can be used at all camping areas unless a total fire ban is in place.
•The appliance must use only manufactured fuel.
•It must be used for cooking and/or heating only.
•It must be 20cm off the ground.
•Manufactured fuel does not include timber or wood.
•Appliances that are not fully self-contained, such as braziers, are not permitted.
•All appliances, materials and fuels (e.g. heat beads) must be removed from the national park on departure.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 08, 2018, 02:41:12 PM
A little of topic, but are these 'cookers' allowed on Fraser Island (beach camping)
Below is from the NPSR web-site

A fully enclosed cooking or heating appliance, preferably using gas or fuel, can be used at all camping areas unless a total fire ban is in place.
•The appliance must use only manufactured fuel.
•It must be used for cooking and/or heating only.
•It must be 20cm off the ground.
•Manufactured fuel does not include timber or wood.
•Appliances that are not fully self-contained, such as braziers, are not permitted.
•All appliances, materials and fuels (e.g. heat beads) must be removed from the national park on departure.

I used my ozpig on Fraser, and the rangers saw it each night on their rounds and were happy with it.. dont forget to the firewood rules too.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: macca on February 08, 2018, 03:20:50 PM
Nothing,he doesn't go camping anymore  ;D ;D
I was going to say he usually visits the neighbors around tea time

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Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Rumpig on February 08, 2018, 03:25:48 PM
A little of topic, but are these 'cookers' allowed on Fraser Island (beach camping)
Below is from the NPSR web-site

A fully enclosed cooking or heating appliance, preferably using gas or fuel, can be used at all camping areas unless a total fire ban is in place.
•The appliance must use only manufactured fuel.
•It must be used for cooking and/or heating only.
•It must be 20cm off the ground.
•Manufactured fuel does not include timber or wood.
•Appliances that are not fully self-contained, such as braziers, are not permitted.
•All appliances, materials and fuels (e.g. heat beads) must be removed from the national park on departure.
so long as you call it a cooker, don't use any timber to burn in it (you need to burn sawdust logs, heatbeads, compressed paper logs etc), then remove any ash / charcoal from the Island when you leave (it's not allowed in the bins on the island), then the answer is yes.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on February 08, 2018, 05:01:08 PM
Hey Bird, what do carry to cook with on the open fire?
I won one of these last night :D
https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html (https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html) probably never use it but I won it :D
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Pottsy on February 08, 2018, 05:32:42 PM
I won one of these last night :D
https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html (https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html) probably never use it but I won it :D

Be careful Bird, it won't be long and you'll have a fully functioning gourmet camp kitchen.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on February 08, 2018, 05:57:33 PM
I won one of these last night :D
https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html (https://www.frontrunneroutfitters.com/en/au/front-runner-spare-tire-mount-braai-bbq-grate.html) probably never use it but I won it :D

Interesting idea, can't help but think you would have to clean the dust off of it everytime you went to use it, and if you had left any oily residue on it from using it, it would be a dust magnet. I guess that is one of the reasons it's stainless.

It does look like the kings one would go close to fitting into one of their Dirty gear bags (https://www.4wdsupacentre.com.au/adventure-kings-dirty-gear-bag.html) to borrow their idea.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: rossm on February 08, 2018, 06:55:51 PM
I won one of these last night :D

The barbecue or the presenter in the video?
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on February 08, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Interesting idea, can't help but think you would have to clean the dust off of it everytime you went to use it, and if you had left any oily residue on it from using it, it would be a dust magnet.


If you use the right oil and prep it properly then anything like this should not be oily but a hard slippery surface http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/ (http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on April 18, 2018, 10:31:57 PM
Thanks for pointing these out.  Just bought one   ;D

Still waiting on the review  ;D
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: edz on April 18, 2018, 11:58:07 PM
Fancy little gadget this one          https://www.gstove.no/ (https://www.gstove.no/)     About $250 AU + -     ...  plus freight or what ever   without the water tank                                                                                       
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxvYz0ILzkY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxvYz0ILzkY)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Fizzie on April 19, 2018, 08:51:16 AM
Saw these on another forum https://row.bioliteenergy.com/products/firepit (https://row.bioliteenergy.com/products/firepit)

Being done as a Kickstarter deal & apparently about US$200 delivered to Oz.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: edz on April 19, 2018, 09:53:50 AM
Here it is in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUA44iW0mak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUA44iW0mak)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on April 19, 2018, 10:25:47 AM
Here it is in action https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUA44iW0mak (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUA44iW0mak)

Interesting concept, initially thought that it was automated and sensed the level of smoke etc and adjusted the airflow to optimise the burn but basically just looks like a fan with a few different settings that you choose, don't think it is going to do a lot more than a well-designed fire pit with good airflow though. Looks like they sold over 2m worth with their Kickstarter campaign though so piqued the interest of quite a few.

Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: edz on April 19, 2018, 11:43:37 AM
Could always add a small battery blower kit to a flat pak fire pit easily enough . Be way cheaper and less bulk than this thing and put the unspent $$$ difference towards fire side refreshments .  ;D
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on April 19, 2018, 12:34:07 PM
Could always add a small battery blower kit to a flat pak fire pit easily enough . Be way cheaper and less bulk than this thing and put the unspent $$$ difference towards fire side refreshments .  ;D

It would be cool if it was powered by a small steam turbine heated from the fire, maybe a small battery or capacitor that powers it whilst it is heating up that is then also recharged by the small steam turbine once the fire gets going, would be better/geekier option than something like the advertised one that you need to remember to recharge.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: westvic on April 19, 2018, 03:22:23 PM
It would be cool if it was powered by a small steam turbine heated from the fire, maybe a small battery or capacitor that powers it whilst it is heating up that is then also recharged by the small steam turbine once the fire gets going, would be better/geekier option than something like the advertised one that you need to remember to recharge.

thats a turbo isint it??
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: edz on April 19, 2018, 03:33:16 PM
It would be cool if it was powered by a small steam turbine heated from the fire, maybe a small battery or capacitor that powers it whilst it is heating up that is then also recharged by the small steam turbine once the fire gets going, would be better/geekier option than something like the advertised one that you need to remember to recharge.
There is  a heat / fire  powered battery charger on the market , So can they could  power this fan unit with their  version of  it if they realy wanted to .
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: tryagain on April 19, 2018, 04:36:25 PM
There is  a heat / fire  powered battery charger on the market , So can they could  power this fan unit with their  version of  it if they realy wanted to .

Somewhat ironically perhaps is that it's made by the same people who make the firepit, not cheap though. Maybe that will be a future model.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: speewa158 on April 19, 2018, 08:17:12 PM
Geeeezzzzz all this waffle about a cooking devise ,,,,,, . Wood fire  (with or without rock ring )plough disc ,  bit of fence wire to turn chops . ln the morn stir fire add wood cook bacon & eggs .
 All this other stuff can increase your ball weight & lower your wallet weight  . But its up to you really   .                                               :cheers:
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Bird on April 20, 2018, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: speewa158
Geeeezzzzz all this waffle about a cooking devise ,,,,,, . Wood fire  (with or without rock ring )plough disc ,  bit of fence wire to turn chops . ln the morn stir fire add wood cook bacon & eggs .
you can quickly get nice crispy bacon on this puppy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k19wyUXP0bw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k19wyUXP0bw)
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Marcus73 on April 20, 2018, 07:05:11 PM
And back to the original question..... ??


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Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Alan Loy on April 20, 2018, 07:25:48 PM
Still waiting on the review  ;D

Sorry Guys, I've been obsessed with getting ready for the Kimberly trip and as it's not going it has sat in the shed

A couple of observations, given I haven't fired it up these are speculation.

I think a grate in this would allow a better burn.
I'm not sure that there is enough air intake for cooking without leaving the door open, but it might be OK if you just want some heat.
The design will mean that it will smoke, but that is why you have the chimney.

Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: xcvator on July 19, 2018, 09:36:39 PM
Sorry Guys, I've been obsessed with getting ready for the Kimberly trip and as it's not going it has sat in the shed

A couple of observations, given I haven't fired it up these are speculation.

I think a grate in this would allow a better burn.
I'm not sure that there is enough air intake for cooking without leaving the door open, but it might be OK if you just want some heat.
The design will mean that it will smoke, but that is why you have the chimney.



And.....?
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: rockrat on July 20, 2018, 06:04:48 PM
I bought one of these a few weeks back and have used it twice so far. For the price it is ok but the steel is pretty thin and you need to keep the fire burning very hot to get any sizzle when cooking in a frying pan. I think some kind of grate in the bottom would work well to get more airflow through the fire.
Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: Hoyks on July 20, 2018, 06:50:41 PM
thats a turbo isint it??

Supercharger ;D.


Its been done before, and upscaled. Not quite portable anymore and it would go from Rare to Well Done in seconds.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/l/smoke-and-fury-go-into-supercharged-burn-barrel/vp-AAzWXQh (https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/l/smoke-and-fury-go-into-supercharged-burn-barrel/vp-AAzWXQh)

Title: Re: Has Anybody Tried These ?
Post by: glenm64 on July 20, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
Turbo

Cheers Glen