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Title: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 25, 2017, 12:44:57 AM
I hope this works out for everyones benefit.


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-24/camping-north-stradbroke-island-quandamooka-people-qld/9276712 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-24/camping-north-stradbroke-island-quandamooka-people-qld/9276712)

What happens next?
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Axl on December 25, 2017, 05:11:08 AM
The Amity Point camp grounds were transferred many years ago and the changes whilst minimal have been positive.
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Rumpig on December 25, 2017, 08:41:43 AM
I though that had happened already a while back as they were already so heavily involved in it's running, but apparently not the case I see now.
What happens next?...well no dogs allowed on Flinders Beach for a start, starts next year I have heard
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: gronk on December 25, 2017, 08:47:13 PM
I think transferred to indigenous people is a more descriptive title, but returned to indigenous owners I think is incorrect, as just as we "white" people never owned it, neither did the indigenous people.

Rant over......just like other "transferred" places, costs and ease of access will no doubt change..
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 25, 2017, 08:51:52 PM
I just copied a headline, ok.
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: gronk on December 25, 2017, 09:31:49 PM
I just copied a headline, ok.

OK by me !!
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on December 26, 2017, 07:24:05 AM
Hi Cruiser, From what I have seen its and where I have camped on Indigenous lands, As long as they do not follow NPs rules its only a positive move more relaxed better run and not so many rules, Craig
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: weeds on December 26, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
Like other they have certainly been running/operating the campsites for years. Maybe it’s been formalised


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Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: SEADOO on December 26, 2017, 12:26:58 PM
If it's handed back to the locals and if they only allow the locals to stay there, it'll end up looking like the local tip. Just like every other place handed back to the locals all over the top end.
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 26, 2017, 12:41:48 PM
I think the part that people have missed is that "...it has been able to buy out the IBA's $7 million investment."

They've obviously found a formula that works, and have been working hard to get it to work allowing them to buy out a partner to take complete control of it.

It's also interesting that they've got the premium market working for them with $350/night accomodation options - that's going to go a long way to keeping the riff raff out...
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Rumpig on December 26, 2017, 12:51:11 PM
If it's handed back to the locals and if they only allow the locals to stay there, it'll end up looking like the local tip. Just like every other place handed back to the locals all over the top end.
they have run the show for ages already like I thought they did, it appears this new situation is just finalising the money side of things in that business set up...they need the tourists to make money for that business set up, and they live in the townships / many hundreds of houses that are on the island already and have no need to camp. Straddie isn't a desolate remote island, it's a 40 minute ferry ride from suburban Brisbane, has all the mod cons other then Maccas and KFC etc (thank god for that). Currently the main mess being made here, is the non "locals" / campers putting rubbish beside already over flowing industrial bins....hopefully they'll get emptied real soon.
Title: Re: North Stradbroke Island's campgrounds returned to Indigenous owners
Post by: Rumpig on December 26, 2017, 12:59:59 PM
I think the part that people have missed is that "...it has been able to buy out the IBA's $7 million investment."

They've obviously found a formula that works, and have been working hard to get it to work allowing them to buy out a partner to take complete control of it.

It's also interesting that they've got the premium market working for them with $350/night accomodation options - that's going to go a long way to keeping the riff raff out...
there's plenty of normal beach camping on Straddie also that they look after, so it gets it's fair share of wankers there also....we had a few words with several the other night actually.