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Title: New Police vehicles
Post by: Fizzie on December 19, 2017, 07:11:58 AM
Just saw this article: https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/exclusive-chrysler-300-srt-and-bmw-530d-set-for-nsw-police-duty-59628 (https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/exclusive-chrysler-300-srt-and-bmw-530d-set-for-nsw-police-duty-59628) (although it's a couple of months old now)

$65000 for the Chrysler & $119900 for the Beemer :o, & that's before lights, siren, radio's, computers etc etc etc.

So much for the Police budget :'(
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: duggie on December 19, 2017, 08:53:49 AM
And they try to tell us that there is no revenue to be made from speed cameras , it is all about safety .  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2017, 10:16:37 AM
Quote from: Fizzie
$65000 for the Chrysler & $119900 for the Beemer :o, & that's before lights, siren, radio's, computers etc etc etc.

"The BMWs, which carry a list price of $119,900"

you can be quite sure the bacon aren't paying retail for em.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 19, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
"The BMWs, which carry a list price of $119,900"

you can be quite sure the bacon aren't paying retail for em.

There is no State duties or taxes paid by the Police when they buy these, just federal.
They will be getting them as a Lease Vehicle anyway, so they won't pay full retail by any stretch of the imagination.
Plus they'll come with a lot of gear on them without having to add it in after purchase.
Radio's will be something that will have to go in after they get them, and they get recycled from one to the next.
I'd be interested in what they go for at Auction, after the boys have beaten the daylights out of 'em.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Myst on December 19, 2017, 01:35:44 PM
Very few vehicles off the showroom floor are adequate as a police vehicle, given the requirements for brakes, suspension, occupant protection and a range of other factors. Since both Ford and Holden have closed down local production, there simply arent many options available.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 19, 2017, 04:17:01 PM
Very few vehicles off the showroom floor are adequate as a police vehicle, given the requirements for brakes, suspension, occupant protection and a range of other factors. Since both Ford and Holden have closed down local production, there simply arent many options available.

And most of the European manufacturers have dedicated emergency service production options - slightly bigger alternators, different brake and wheel combinations - as well as the electrics being configured around the need for quick adjustments and all the extra gubbins that they need in there. I remember seeing a Volvo V50 demo car set up in Paramedic spec in the UK; if the blue lights were on, then the horn buttons changed the siren tones - much easiser for the ambo to do that with a reach of their fingers on the steering wheel rather than having to find a toggle or rocker switch on the dashboard.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Hookie on December 19, 2017, 06:35:43 PM
I don't know why they keep looking everywhere but the most logical place. Call up ford USA and get a price on a ship full of these bad boys with right hand drive, problem solved.

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/ (https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/)
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 19, 2017, 07:18:12 PM
Can't understand why they don't use the Buick twin turbo FBI Interceptors.


Might have to get the way back machine or the back to the future DeLorean or the Tardis, and go to 1987.
Then again, they were a two door anyway.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Bird on December 19, 2017, 07:21:37 PM
I don't know why they keep looking everywhere but the most logical place. Call up ford USA and get a price on a ship full of these bad boys with right hand drive, problem solved.

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/ (https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/)
I believe they already tested them out here a few times, but they didnt cut the mustard
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Hookie on December 20, 2017, 04:32:13 AM
I believe they already tested them out here a few times, but they didnt cut the mustard

That's a shame, because all the work is already done, and they look badassed too. All wheel drive would be handy in all sorts of situations.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Fizzie on December 20, 2017, 07:49:21 AM
I don't know why they keep looking everywhere but the most logical place. Call up ford USA and get a price on a ship full of these bad boys with right hand drive, problem solved.

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/ (https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/)

The ute version actually looks a lot like my Territory - they would probably have worked as well, at least as GD's, maybe not High Speed Pursuit ???
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Alan Loy on December 20, 2017, 07:47:59 PM
It wasn't that long ago that we thought that we would be selling Commodores to the US for police vehicles. 

Clearly that didn't work so now we have to look elsewhere (somewhere with right hand drive!!)

Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: JusyApples on December 21, 2017, 07:43:24 AM
I believe in the next few years we will see the Dodge Charger for NSW highway patrol vehicles. It will be a plug and play type arrangement with the mobile data terminal input into the dash. New ICV system etc
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on December 21, 2017, 11:02:28 AM
Most Police vehicles require a 4 door vehicle for the base unit.
Even the Traffic boys. 
If you try and put someone uncooperative into a 2 door and you don't want them in the front with you you'll understand.
That's the basic reason 'Pony cars' failed, and we won't get into the 'American Idea' of how a car should handle.  Ok.
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: JusyApples on December 21, 2017, 12:11:56 PM
Most Police vehicles require a 4 door vehicle for the base unit.
Even the Traffic boys. 
If you try and put someone uncooperative into a 2 door and you don't want them in the front with you you'll understand.
That's the basic reason 'Pony cars' failed, and we won't get into the 'American Idea' of how a car should handle.  Ok.
The charger pursuit is 4 door
If we ever go for a 2 door and you need a convey you would just call for a gd's caged truck
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: gronk on December 21, 2017, 07:01:48 PM
It wasn't that long ago that we thought that we would be selling Commodores to the US for police vehicles. 



We did....we sold a heap of Caprices to them. Saw a few of them a couple of yrs ago over there.


The Kia Stinger has been mentioned before, and looking at the prices of the Chrysler and BMW , it would make a lot of sense ?
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: speewa158 on December 21, 2017, 08:02:19 PM
Wont Fugi be Spewing he missed out on a BM     >:D >:D >:D              :cheers:
Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: #jonesy on December 22, 2017, 05:58:00 AM
Victoria's selection
http://peninsulaobstaclecourse.com.au/ (http://peninsulaobstaclecourse.com.au/)

The plug and play of the BMW saves a lot of money and downtime and both ends of its service

Title: Re: New Police vehicles
Post by: Bird on December 22, 2017, 07:44:49 AM
Quote from: speewa158
Wont Fugi be Spewing he missed out on a BM     >:D >:D >:D              :cheers:

Its ok, the wife will bring one home ;)