Post by: Wunderlust on July 02, 2017, 09:35:49 PM
Post by: kylarama on July 02, 2017, 10:55:51 PM
Murphys Law will ensure you'll need 2 if you only take 1....
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Post by: IanS on July 03, 2017, 12:16:52 AM
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on July 03, 2017, 03:10:30 AM
Post by: Chris. on July 03, 2017, 06:19:26 AM
Post by: krisandkev on July 03, 2017, 06:43:43 AM
Post by: speewa158 on July 03, 2017, 07:52:45 AM
There dosent seem to gain much carting another rim around the country side .
Entirely your call . :cheers:
Post by: Spada on July 03, 2017, 08:05:53 AM
I did damage a rim early into a trip once (pays to check your wheel nuts >:( ), so I was glad I had a second spare.
Post by: CorzaDry on July 03, 2017, 08:15:34 AM
Post by: Alan Loy on July 03, 2017, 08:33:50 AM
Post by: kylarama on July 03, 2017, 08:57:54 AM
Practice changing the tyre at home first. Preferably on dirt, in the heat of the day and while you're tired. It can be hard yakka.
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Post by: D4D on July 03, 2017, 08:59:54 AM
Practice changing the tyre at home first. Preferably on dirt, in the heat of the day and while you're tired. It can be hard yakka.
Hmmm maybe tyre pliers and tirfors are the same , 'for sale, only used once' :)
Post by: Symon on July 03, 2017, 09:13:33 AM
Post by: IanS on July 03, 2017, 10:23:44 AM
Hmmm maybe tyre pliers and tirfors are the same , 'for sale, only used once' :)
Never tried a Tirfors,(had to google it to find out what is was) but have used Tyre Pliers and for a manual bead breaker they work quite well. This is the kit I have, http://www2.tyrepliers.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=59&search=kit100 (http://www2.tyrepliers.com.au/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=59&search=kit100)
Post by: Traveller on July 03, 2017, 10:26:35 AM
Two spares on the cruiser, one on the trailer, all matching so essentially 3 spares. I've had to use two spares on one trip once.
I am the same. It is probably overkill as, so far, we have only had 2 flats in 20 years of travel. But that bl**dy irishman always worries me.
Years ago on a short trip to Yerranderie my mate got 2 flats and one slower leak. Used his spare, my spare and limped back with stops to inflate the 3rd one. It can happen when you least expect it.
We have done this in the past as well, but it isn't anywhere as easy these days with all the different hub sizes and styles. Went to throw my Patrol spare on a Navara one day (both 6 stud I thought), and it wasn't even close to fitting. Bring back the old days of one rim fits all, well except for the Landy brigade who always do it differently ;D
Post by: rossm on July 03, 2017, 11:05:41 AM
In the Kimberley last year it was much easier to grab it from the back of the ute than the wind down the main spare when we needed a higher jacking point to help right a rolled trailer.
I have been carrying cable ties for the same decade and never needed them either until a sandal broke last year.
As a solo traveler I do some tagalongs and when you multiply the number of tyres by the number of vehicles and add in trailers I often think it is remarkable I have only seen two punctures in our groups. One caused by a tec screw in the caravan park at Laverton and the other a staked trailer tyre on the Anne Beadell.
But i won't push my luck. I will keep on carrying a second spare wheel. And cable ties.
Post by: Nifty1 on July 03, 2017, 03:43:51 PM
http://www.outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/4wd-mods-tyres-and-wheels/tyre-pressure-monitoring (http://www.outbacktravelaustralia.com.au/4wd-mods-tyres-and-wheels/tyre-pressure-monitoring)
Post by: Paddler Ed on July 03, 2017, 04:17:02 PM
Changed the tyres on the 4Runner, and got a matching spare
800kms later, punctured as we pulled into camp at Dalmorton. Luckily it's an easy run out to Grafton and they could plug/patch the tyre there and then.
Post by: krisandkev on July 03, 2017, 04:30:34 PM
Found this makes a fair bit of sense. I read somewhere that this bloke only ever takes a single spare on his extended outback trips as long as he has the TPMS. I have one, and it alerted me to a slow leak which I could plug before real damage. It's hard to know where to stop when it comes to carrying spare anythings though. What if my compressor dies?
Good point. I got a TPMS (Safe-T-Tyre) last year for our 12 month trip and twice it alerted me to a slow leak and on both occasions I was able to wait until we were able to drive to a tyre repair place and have the tyres repaired. Now I would not travel without a TPMS, on the car and the van. Kevin
Post by: Craig Tomkinson on July 03, 2017, 05:07:10 PM
Post by: Rumpig on July 03, 2017, 05:39:30 PM
Years ago on a short trip to Yerranderie my mate got 2 flats and one slower leak. Used his spare, my spare and limped back with stops to inflate the 3rd one. It can happen when you least expect it.were they just flats that could have been plugged or were the tyres destroyed?
Post by: Alan Loy on July 03, 2017, 05:44:17 PM
Post by: kylarama on July 03, 2017, 07:45:33 PM
Hmmm maybe tyre pliers and tirfors are the same , 'for sale, only used once' :)Tyre pliers sound like a luxury item.
I was talking old school. Jack in the hitch reciever to break the bead, then levers and a mallet to remove the tyre.
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Post by: speewa158 on July 03, 2017, 08:31:00 PM
Gezzzz your out there for adventure ,,,,enjoy , OR
Stay home & just wonder what it would be like to have a GO ??? ??? :cheers:
Post by: kylarama on July 03, 2017, 09:50:42 PM
Put the kettle on & lets get the job done ,,,,,Old School . What ever works to get the job done :cup: :cheers:
Gezzzz your out there for adventure ,,,,enjoy , OR
Stay home & just wonder what it would be like to have a GO ??? ??? :cheers:
I've got no issues doing it old school. Just warning others to practice first, so you know what to do / expect.
Stuff the kettle. Bang on the 2nd spare and repair it at next camp with plenty of amber lubricant
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Post by: Patr80l on July 03, 2017, 10:23:02 PM
I had matching wheels (and spare) on my trailer. A flat on the 80 Series the wrong side of Broken Hill didn't need to be repaired until I got home as the rest of the trip was on bitumen and I still had a healthy spare.
My Touareg has a space saver as standard that needs to be inflated and looks like a tube and not a tyre when inflated. I therefore took a full sized spare on an outback trip a few years ago. I almost left the space saver at home to free up the space under the floor to store stuff. Two unrepairable tyres (Dalhousie and Finke) meant I was glad to have that spacesaver. It's a long and slow drive from Finke to Alice when you're nursing a speed-limited, glorified 'tube with tread' over 200km of corrugations. I kept it under 40km/hr.
So, a second spare does give you extra security.
Post by: cyberess on July 04, 2017, 01:14:31 AM
:cheers:
Post by: Ragman on July 04, 2017, 01:32:01 AM
Also the traction control doesn't like mismatched tyres. Even the same size and brand with a different tread pattern can upset it.
with 6 new tyres I can rotate them every 10000km and get a lot of traveling from them.
Post by: trinityalyce on July 04, 2017, 03:38:28 PM
Honestly I've rarely needed to change a tyre. I think I've had a flat twice...? But why take the risk when you're in the middle of nowhere.
Post by: lloydus67 on July 04, 2017, 05:51:16 PM
Most tow vehicles tend to wear their tyres much quicker than a van or camper, which is more likely to crack rather than wear out. Most punctures tend to happen when the tread is in the latter stages of its life.
So rotatating tyres on vehicle, trailer and spares will not only prevent more punctures and give you better tyre life / value for money but you are also unlikely to suffer a blowout from a tyre with lots of tread, but that is perished and brittle from old age
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Post by: Patr80l on July 04, 2017, 08:05:47 PM
good topic Wunderlust, I'll be taking 2 spares to the Kimberley. with a more common wheel I'd probably chance one spare, but matching Touareg wheels or tyres would be hard to find on the Gibb I guess.Further to my Touareg story, when I got to Alice Springs I was told that two Pirelli Scorpions could be shipped from Pt Augusta the following week. The only tyres in Alice that I could find to fit were a pair of General Grabber 255/55 R18's which were luckily the same circumference as the Scorpions. (Not all 255/55 R18's are the same!) At the time, the full sized spare that I had bought with me from home was one of a set of four I had bought cheap. So it was a pain to have to buy two tyres in Alice when I had three sitting at home in Melbourne!
Also the traction control doesn't like mismatched tyres. Even the same size and brand with a different tread pattern can upset it.
with 6 new tyres I can rotate them every 10000km and get a lot of traveling from them.
ps I think it's the more complicated traction systems and electronic diff locks etc that is bothered by the mismatched tyres. If it was just the traction control you could just turn that off. When I bought my second Touareg last month (yay!) I was told that it's "tyre pressure monitoring" system detects deflation by the change in rolling circumference via the ABS sensors rather than pressure monitors in the wheels. These Volkswagens are quirky!
Post by: mynance on July 05, 2017, 06:35:32 AM
But he uses crappy old 2nd hand ones to save money.
If used good tyres he probably wouldn't need any of them, but good exercise when your over 78.
Myles
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Post by: KieranR on July 05, 2017, 10:25:43 AM