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Title: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Moggy on March 21, 2017, 08:26:06 PM
We've recently had an increase in suspicious activity in our neighbourhood & swmbo is getting uneasy, so am looking to get a couple of security cameras for monitoring the front of the house. We have a highset & both vehicles are in open carports.
My neighbour has a couple of wireless netgear arlo's https://www.jbhifi.com.au/features/computers-tablets/netgear-arlo/ (https://www.jbhifi.com.au/features/computers-tablets/netgear-arlo/) but a bit of research through product review say they're battery hungry & with batteries about $30 a pop. (he's had his car targetted a couple of times)
There was a bloke wondering around the other morning at the neighbours & these didnt pick anything up, but i was sitting on my front vernada with my phone taking pics of him
I know SFA about this sort of stuff & looking if anyone has any real experience & suggestions. Ideally wireless, but just after something functional that will work. I could wire them in if better its just the power could be an issue
I wonder about the Swan ones from JB??? anybody use them.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: ScarpsD40 on March 21, 2017, 08:30:01 PM
Interested in same info, will watch replies with interest
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: DrewXT on March 21, 2017, 08:33:55 PM
I know a few guys using HikVision wired cameras, back to a dedicated PVR system with a couple of weeks recording capacity......

Wired is better because you can power the camera over the data cable that connects back to the PVR

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Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Moggy on March 21, 2017, 08:46:40 PM
I know a few guys using HikVision wired cameras, back to a dedicated PVR system with a couple of weeks recording capacity......

Wired is better because you can power the camera over the data cable that connects back to the PVR

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Had a quick look....WOW after i picked myself up off the floor, at those prices they can have the car  ;D

Probably after something a little more cost effective
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: DrewXT on March 21, 2017, 10:07:10 PM
Best place to buy them is Aliexpress or other Chinese eBay type stores...

I'm not terribly familiar with which model is which, but there is good information on the HomeOne and Whirlpool forums

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Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Gunsrunner on March 22, 2017, 03:45:36 AM
bought a cheap 8 camera wired system 5 years ago for $500 of ebay. It lasted 3 years before box died, I got a new box for $120 all good 2 years later.
The further up the ranks you go the better the recording. motion following cameras are the rage at the moment.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: MDS69 on March 22, 2017, 05:54:38 AM
There was a 8 camera and DVR set up at Aldi last week or the week before for around $250-$300. My neighbour has one and swears by it.
Myself am looking at the Swann setup something similar to this
 http://www.swann.com/au/r-swdvk-445754 (http://www.swann.com/au/r-swdvk-445754)
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: paceman on March 22, 2017, 08:20:31 AM
this may be of some interest...

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/hd_security_cameras
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: silverfox1111 on March 22, 2017, 08:26:40 AM
Search "trail camera" on ebay. We just bought one for the same reasons as you. Needed to be a stand alone unit & these seem to tick all the boxes.
Haven't set ours up yet though.
Silverfox
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: paceman on March 22, 2017, 08:36:06 AM
Search "trail camera" on ebay. We just bought one for the same reasons as you. Needed to be a stand alone unit & these seem to tick all the boxes.
Haven't set ours up yet though.
Silverfox

which make/model did you end up getting?
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on March 22, 2017, 10:32:10 AM
Got the ALDI one.
It's Branded 'Cocoon'.
I've been ripped off, mine only had 4 cameras.
If you set it up completely, by giving it access to the internet, it's supposed to send you a message when the system trips an alarm.
The DVR is so small too.  The problem for me is it doesn't have markers on a time line to indicate the incidents, if any.
Real pain if your trying to randomly search for anything, or you just want to check.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Spada on March 22, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
I'm on the home run of installing a 6 camera Hikvision system with NVR that will hold around a months worth of data.

Send a PM to Myswag member "Patroldude", I cant thank him enough for the advise and assistance (he's in the business).

You get what you pay for................and as the OP has eluded to, the cheap ones are just that.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: trailbasher on March 22, 2017, 12:37:47 PM
Hi

I got one of the Aldi ones a couple of years ago and it's going great.  Bit of a mission to setup the communications side, but now I can check up on the house and dog from my mobile wherever and whenever I want.

I got the wired version and just run the cables around the beams under my house.  I think each cable was 20m long.  Only possible issue is that someone could cut the wires, but I guess that level of organisation means they are getting in regardless.

Hope that helps
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: silverfox1111 on March 22, 2017, 02:31:00 PM
 This the ebay number for what i got. Vimmel brand from "best security systems"  $120.
171436746555
Silverfox
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Moggy on March 22, 2017, 05:24:31 PM
I'm on the home run of installing a 6 camera Hikvision system with NVR that will hold around a months worth of data.

Send a PM to Myswag member "Patroldude", I cant thank him enough for the advise and assistance (he's in the business).

You get what you pay for................and as the OP has eluded to, the cheap ones are just that.
Are these systems "always on" or are they motion detection then fire up. Also do they loop the recording when full or do you have to physically delete recordings.
I found a 4 camera set with 3tb hd for $1450, probably more than i would've hoped to spend but if the gear is good then maybe better option long term. I did notice it came with 3yr warranty as well
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Gazza00 on March 22, 2017, 06:36:07 PM
Another plug for HKVision.
Got 5 IR cameras externally & one internal with a eight station 4Tb recorder.
You can pretty much program them anyway you want to, but the externals run 27/7 with loop recording. From memory it stores 3-4 weeks before it starts to overwrite itself.
The internal camera is set for the 5 day week times we aren't home - basically 8.30 - 5.30
 As they say, you get what you pay for and the playback is excellent on this unit. You can 'cut & past' whatever you want to a portable disk if you need to show the cops anything for example.
I could set it up to display remotely on the phone, but haven't bothered yet.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Spada on March 22, 2017, 07:33:48 PM
Are these systems "always on" or are they motion detection then fire up. Also do they loop the recording when full or do you have to physically delete recordings.
I found a 4 camera set with 3tb hd for $1450, probably more than i would've hoped to spend but if the gear is good then maybe better option long term. I did notice it came with 3yr warranty as well

As Gazza has already said, using the software, you can set them up to suit your needs (but I'm still a learner driver).You can have 24/7 full record, or time laps, or motion activated. You can set up a zone or a line within the image to trigger motion detect recording (or alarm), you can set it up for remote viewing (but that will require a static IP address from your Telco at around $10 per month). I'm impressed with the quality of the image, and their night time capabilities. I've got a wide angle camera at the end of the driveway as well as at each point of entry to the house, and I've got a zoomable dome front and rear of the house, one looking down the drive, and the other looking at the shed. Even at night the image is pretty good, but I have supplemented the 2 dome cameras with a couple of IR floods (cheapies off ebay)s
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Moggy on March 22, 2017, 09:30:41 PM
Thanks Spada, a bit of interweb reading has found very little that would seem comparable to these, so may be worth the $$$$.
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: patroldude on March 23, 2017, 07:29:34 AM
Thank you for the positive feedback Spada
Guys you can call me on 0407211199 and I can help you chose the right camera for the right application. And like Spada, I can supply all the other bits and pieces to help the whole project get completed correctly. Cheers
www.ccbt.net.au


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Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: tramsnod on March 23, 2017, 11:48:44 AM
After an early morning break in attempt a year ago i upgraded locks and chains around the home.
I've got a 2 wireless camera Swann unit which goes via wifi to a small tablet style screen.
When I needed an additional camera I got one of these, which you can view on your phone.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151694859086?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151694859086?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT)

Both systems have worked effortlessly.

Of course I use locks and chains etc as well but I can at least get video of any attempts
Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Wortho on March 23, 2017, 08:20:29 PM
(but that will require a static IP address from your Telco at around $10 per month).
Or just use a free Dynamic DNS service like https://freedns.afraid.org/menu/
I have been using this service for a few years now to remotely access my Foscam and its worked well.

Dynamic IP Addresses
DDNS is a service that allows your IP Camera, especially when assigned with a dynamic IP address,
to have a fixed host and domain name. This means that even though your WAN IP address is
constantly changing, you will have a fixed hostname you can use to access your cameras at all times.
You can access the camera directly from the Internet using the hostname and port number.

Title: Re: Domestic Security Cameras - Wireless - Wired Recommendations
Post by: Dasnowman on March 23, 2017, 09:45:25 PM
We've recently had an increase in suspicious activity in our neighbourhood & swmbo is getting uneasy, so am looking to get a couple of security cameras for monitoring the front of the house. We have a highset & both vehicles are in open carports.
My neighbour has a couple of wireless netgear arlo's https://www.jbhifi.com.au/features/computers-tablets/netgear-arlo/ (https://www.jbhifi.com.au/features/computers-tablets/netgear-arlo/) but a bit of research through product review say they're battery hungry & with batteries about $30 a pop. (he's had his car targetted a couple of times)
There was a bloke wondering around the other morning at the neighbours & these didnt pick anything up, but i was sitting on my front vernada with my phone taking pics of him
I know SFA about this sort of stuff & looking if anyone has any real experience & suggestions. Ideally wireless, but just after something functional that will work. I could wire them in if better its just the power could be an issue
I wonder about the Swan ones from JB??? anybody use them.

https://www.sengled.com.au/ (https://www.sengled.com.au/)

Sengled have released in Aus led lights with cameras inbuilt with them. I have not tried them but if you want a simple install to try something then this maybe you easiest and cheapest option.

Thanks

Dasnowman