Post by: eventyr on December 04, 2016, 11:53:07 AM
We camp with ~45l potable water in the CT and another 20l in jerry.
We don't seem to be able to last more than 3 days with that water (the 45l in the ct, the jerry is emergency spare water only), and most of it goes in washing up. I'd like to extend that to 5-7days, but the only way I can think is to use disposable plates / cutlery.
I'm sure there is a better way, how does everyone else do their washing up with minimal water?
Post by: Jaysea on December 04, 2016, 12:20:25 PM
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Post by: McTavish on December 04, 2016, 12:38:43 PM
I've swapped out the second jerry can holder for a gas bottle holder - so we will often buy 2 or three larger drinking water containers from the supermarket and place in the camper.
Helps us having about 85ltr tank under too...
Post by: MrCruza on December 04, 2016, 01:35:34 PM
Post by: Traveller on December 04, 2016, 01:52:25 PM
We did a 3 month Kimberley trip (2 adults only), and from memory only filled our 65 litre camper tank once, but used available water as much as possible. We finally ran out halfway down the Tanami.
Clever use is better than carry extra water/weight.
Post by: Nomad on December 04, 2016, 02:05:21 PM
Your kids are still small enough that you can always use one of these if necessary to carry extra water.
We use it when heading to the middle of no where.
http://www.fleximake.com.au/Home/EachProduct?Id=ee767536-c85f-43ad-bd44-50848f8813f1 (http://www.fleximake.com.au/Home/EachProduct?Id=ee767536-c85f-43ad-bd44-50848f8813f1)
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Post by: Bird on December 04, 2016, 02:09:52 PM
Paper plates on top of your metal plates work awesome.. just chuck em in the fire when done, and cleaning the metal plates is left to the wipes.
I find that the Pine-o-Clean wipes are great... get most of the stuff clean...
Post by: BaseCamp on December 04, 2016, 02:10:53 PM
Our van has 2 x 90ltr tanks. .. but for some reason the wife likes to take a hot shower most days, so water consumption can be heavy. ...
For simple things like wet rice dishes or cornflakes etc .. we sometimes line the bowl / plate with foil.. peel that off when done = clean plate....
Heavy greasy meals, (lamb shanks in winter etc); we eat straight out of an aluminum foil (takeaway style) container.... These can cost about $0.40 cents each ... but will not stress out the water reserves trying to degrease plates etc...
We also stick a lot of plates in a big (collapsible) basin with a good dose of eco dish washing liquid - and batch-wash at the end of the day. ..
We also wipe some used tableware with paper towels... but the best thing for us (2pax) is using disposable stuff...
We use the bio friendly stuff (compressed palm fiber?); which means that it can get dispatched quick smart to the fire when done = no washing up; no water consumption; and more time relaxing...
Using this stuff isn't the cheapest; (we are fortunate to be able to buy through trade) -- however even though ebay etc it is affordable) -
We think that for quality of life out bush; and more time for beers or relaxation -- the compressed palm fiberboard stuff maybe worth budgeting for...
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Post by: GeoffA on December 04, 2016, 03:03:01 PM
We did a 3 month Kimberley trip (2 adults only), and from memory only filled our 65 litre camper tank once, but used available water as much as possible.
That works out at about 1.4 litres per day from your tank.
Dunno about that....
We finally ran out halfway down the Tanami.
Clever use is better than carry extra water/weight.
??? ??? :o :o
These 2 statements don't seem compatible.
I'd much rather carry the weight (and we do) than run out of water....
:cheers:
Post by: Hoyks on December 04, 2016, 04:26:58 PM
Back when I had a wagon an space was a premium, we had 2 x 20L jerries and a bunch of 2L coke bottles. The bottles were good in that they could be shoved in spaces between stuff or under seats and then straight out of the luggage and into the fridge when the cold bottle there was empty.
My best setup was a 100L tank under the tray with a tap. It fitted between the tray rails, so you didn't even know it was there, although filling that when not at home was a bit of a pain.
I've done my time going to sleep all dusty and smelly and wearing the one set of clothes for 2 weeks, so I like to carry more water then I need and have a APC wash, or better still a shower when I can.
One day when I get more time to go camping and throw some money at the ute, I'll do some shopping with these guys. They make a lot of tanks that are an elegant solution to fitting more fluid into a vehicle into what is often wasted space.
http://www.enmachind.com.au/product-category/poly-rv-accessories/rv-water-tanks/ (http://www.enmachind.com.au/product-category/poly-rv-accessories/rv-water-tanks/)
Post by: GGV8Cruza on December 04, 2016, 04:37:32 PM
So far this has worked fine on some longer trups where water is short
GG
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Post by: nab on December 04, 2016, 05:03:40 PM
Post by: austastar on December 04, 2016, 05:28:43 PM
We used to catch water off the roof of our old camper but the new one is not shaped so it can be collected easily.
We do use available water when possible, and have potable and non potable containers.
Cheers
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Post by: slave on December 04, 2016, 05:58:43 PM
Post by: BaseCamp on December 04, 2016, 06:00:25 PM
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Post by: Champin on December 04, 2016, 06:24:32 PM
Post by: glenm64 on December 04, 2016, 06:56:53 PM
We(2) usually get around 3-4 days per tank.
Dishes wiped clean before washing up, and a quick shower each night. Toilet is vacuum so it uses bugger all. Baby wipes used to clean hands etc.
I make the sacrifice of drinking beer to save water.
On big trips I carry 90 litre tank on the back of the ute.
Cheers Glen
Post by: HKB Electronics on December 04, 2016, 07:53:39 PM
Post by: Paddler Ed on December 04, 2016, 08:50:13 PM
15L/day
3.75L/person/day
VIC health recommend (https://www.betterhealth.vic.gov.au/health/healthyliving/water-a-vital-nutrient#lp-h-2) between 1.2L/day (kids) and 2.6L/day (adults), but that doesn't take into account warmth and running around being kids.
Based on the VIC health numbers your minimum daily intake for the family is:
master: 1.2L
miss: 1.2 (but soon 1.4L)
ms: 2.1L
mr: 2.6L
So a total of 11.1L day for drinking - therefore 3.9L isn't too bad for washing up for a day.
My concern would be that you may discourage the young guys from drinking enough if you get too fierce on water saving, and that's then a bad habit.
We do about that quantity when we're away swag camping - we often take 1 x 10L off the shelf water container that we've saved and a big 20L drum. Now I've got the trailer I've got to sort out the brackets for the 60L water tank and where we're going to run water to after that it should be easier to manage water.
Do the kids have their own water bottles? I have one that goes everywhere with me, and it's a good way for me to keep my fluids up and I know when I don't have it with me I tend not to drink enough. It's a 750ml bottle, and I know that getting through a couple of those a day is me well on the way to having drunk enough.
Not certain that's the answer/thoughts you were looking for, but there's some random musings for you to think about... It's certainly been interesting for me to read - I also found this bit (https://www.nrv.gov.au/nutrients/water) that talks about a turnover in adults of 4% of your body weight in water; as I weigh 100kg I turn over 4 litres a day... I think I need to drink more...
Post by: edz on December 04, 2016, 10:15:34 PM
As there is plenty of water around, shower water would be collected each day or second day .
Would use roughly 65 ltrs of fresh water for drinking / cooking and wash up in 10 days ..
25 ltr drum with our shower set up gives us roughly a 6 minute shower .
Post by: Traveller on December 05, 2016, 09:06:15 AM
That works out at about 1.4 litres per day from your tank.
Dunno about that....
You did read that we used other sources didn't you? Some days we didn't use the tank at all. Just because it doesn't come from your tap at home doesn't make it undrinkable.
??? ??? :o :o
These 2 statements don't seem compatible.
I'd much rather carry the weight (and we do) than run out of water....
Last day of camping out, I thought it was judged to perfection. Next day in Alice, where's the problem?
:cheers:
Post by: GUEY on December 05, 2016, 11:05:52 AM
what is wrong with disposable stuff?This times many. Easier to have a few packs of wet wipes and disposable plates than carry more water
Paper plates on top of your metal plates work awesome.. just chuck em in the fire when done, and cleaning the metal plates is left to the wipes.
I find that the Pine-o-Clean wipes are great... get most of the stuff clean...
Post by: GeoffA on December 05, 2016, 11:09:50 AM
You did read that we used other sources didn't you? Some days we didn't use the tank at all. Just because it doesn't come from your tap at home doesn't make it undrinkable.
Yes, I did read that. I also read that you weren't sure how many times you filled the tank.
I think you might have forgotten a couple....
Last day of camping out, I thought it was judged to perfection. Next day in Alice, where's the problem?
Pretty silly IMO. No allowance for any issues on the road......
:cheers:
Post by: Green rv on December 05, 2016, 11:52:05 AM
and use it on a decanter (as in link), works well and the kids can fill their water bottles themselves
http://www.montvillemist.com.au/store/c3/Bench_Top_Dispensers.html (http://www.montvillemist.com.au/store/c3/Bench_Top_Dispensers.html)
i have 59 liters under the camper (gp water)
can put 95 liters on the back of the ute if required (gp water)
and always on hand the B.E.S.T water filter to refill drinking water if required.
and sometimes i take a slab of 600ml water bottles. handy and refillable
location and duration dictates what parts of the above i take
:cheers:
Adam
Post by: eventyr on December 05, 2016, 12:43:44 PM
Next shake down trip we'll try the wet wipes / cleaning with sand first trick too.
:cheers:
Post by: Bird on December 05, 2016, 01:00:06 PM
Quote from: Green rv
and always on hand the B.E.S.T water filter to refill drinking water if required.Gotta get me one of them
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and sometimes i take a slab of 600ml water bottles. handy and refillableyep, another good idea.
Post by: tracker on December 05, 2016, 01:02:03 PM
We always carry a slab of bottled water......It really helps..
Post by: shanegtr on December 05, 2016, 02:50:13 PM
Post by: chester ver2.0 on December 06, 2016, 09:59:51 AM
2x 15 litre frantell water thingies in the camper
1x 20 litre jerry in the back of the ute with a tap and hose for washing feet etc
This can last us up to 9 days depending on how much swimming is avaliable
Post by: Fathom on December 06, 2016, 04:00:53 PM
The Troll has a further 55lt tank.
The Challenger only has an extra 20lt tank in it.
I don't carry extra bottled water. etc.
I do carry an extra couple of collapsible 20l containers in the camper so I can use those if I need to do a water run if we are set up for a while or to use as shower water.
Post by: Terry W4 on December 06, 2016, 05:59:31 PM
Post by: DrewXT on December 06, 2016, 10:42:03 PM
Have to factor the weight though, water's heavy
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Post by: listo on December 07, 2016, 07:37:45 AM
I haven't been down the river since being told that, but I'll be trying it when I do
Post by: Jeepers Creepers on December 07, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
I've now joined a funnel to a hose so I can stick it in the filler pipe and catch what I can during any rain we get.
We hold 120 litres under the floor in twin tanks and 20 litres on the drawbar.