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Title: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Ardi on October 14, 2016, 05:45:59 AM
Just curious if anyone has a black series camper? Or if anyone has any injut on them? Dont seem to see much on here but advertised heaps elsewhere.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: D4D on October 14, 2016, 05:50:19 AM
http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=31568 (http://www.myswag.org/index.php?topic=31568)
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: GGV8Cruza on October 14, 2016, 05:54:25 AM
As D4D linked, they are a imported camper who have changed there branding to something new in the last year or so. Research and inspection of the camper would be advised. Nothing wrong with imported campers if you go in with eyes open and use it to its abilities

GG
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Rumpig on October 14, 2016, 05:59:13 AM
Black Series apparently used to be GIC campers, hence the link posted above. Google GIC to understand more.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Shaun99 on October 14, 2016, 08:12:03 AM

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Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: tryagain on October 14, 2016, 08:54:02 AM
they are an imported camper. Research and inspection of the camper would be advised. Nothing wrong with imported campers if you go in with eyes open and use it to its abilities

And that there I think is the best succinct summary of the local vs imported protracted camper debate I have seen.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: BaseCamp on October 14, 2016, 01:12:43 PM
Really!!!    Is this really the sort of  #@&$   e v e r y t h i n g  has to hide  stand  behind  these days...  ??   ??    >:D    >:D    >:D

I was hoping that myswag could stay "real world" - and remain free of banners; gratuitous and annoying advertising - and the likes of the gunk below...

Just hop'n - that's all......



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Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Rumpig on October 14, 2016, 05:03:36 PM
As D4D linked, they are a imported camper who have changed there branding to something new in the last year or so. Research and inspection of the camper would be advised. Nothing wrong with imported campers if you go in with eyes open and use it to its abilities

GG
like with some local companies, sometimes the issue is the after sales service or complete lack of it. There's a few import camper mobs getting good raps for how they run their businesses, but then there's others that are polar opposite...it's not just the camper unit itself people need to look at.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: cheif carlos on October 14, 2016, 11:41:13 PM
Hey Audi,

 go for a drive to the big smoke this weekend for the 4wd show at eastern creek, they will be there along with others in the price range.

Talk to other people in the area looking at them, ask them if they have found any good/bad points. I have met people who are happy with what they bought and vise versa. Yet I could buy 3-6 for what I bought ours at and I think the owners of the business don't look enough at the quality of their end product. That said I had ours rebuilt!
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: tk421 on October 15, 2016, 04:28:38 PM
Just curious if anyone has a black series camper? Or if anyone has any injut on them? Dont seem to see much on here but advertised heaps elsewhere.

I posted about these somewhere else on this forum. Mate has a Black Series Alpha and it suits him and his family of 5 and he's very happy with it. But they're not going to drag it over the Oodnadtta Track or up the Cape.  Eleventy million poles to set up the annexe though.

I had a quick squiz at it on our first outing, and some of the wiring didn't have grommets as it passed through the stone guard, and the water tap broke during its first week's use (could have been operator induced though), otherwise it looked fine for what they want to do which is drive to a caravan park/camping ground occasionally over some well maintained dirt roads.

On the same trip, my 10 year old aussie built camper broke its rear hatch latches, and the other 2 year old (now defunct import) lost a bolt from its disc brake calipers so that they were rubbing on the rotor). On the next trip, during a bout heavy rain, mine and the other camper had slight leaks - mine on a seam, the other over a door. The Alpha didn't. Make of that what your will and as always YMMV.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Ardi on October 15, 2016, 04:52:26 PM
Had a look at these today at the Syd show. I also had a look at the MDC, Skamper Kamper, Eztrail and blue water. To be honest I did not see a huge variance between them all, perhaps the Blue Water ones were finished nicer and looked to have better fixtures (but are out of my $ range.

I guess without going to an Aus built trailer the imports are all going to have similar traits.

Too many campers on the market! Going to have a look at the Modcon campers next then try and toss up if its worth going for the higher end of the imports, or buying a lower range one and adding the extras we want ourselves.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Frawls on October 15, 2016, 05:57:25 PM
I have a Black Series Dominator, so far so good. First night out, the rain came down in buckets not a drop inside. The wind was also blowing hard. Replaced the mattress, the original one was like slieeping on plank of wood. Cleaned up some wiring and that's it. :4x4: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Joff on October 15, 2016, 07:30:31 PM
I wouldnt own one simply because of their attitude and heavy handedness toward negative comments. They could build the best camper under the sun but it would never darken my driveway.
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Bird on October 15, 2016, 07:33:42 PM
Quote from: Joff
I wouldnt own one simply because of their attitude and heavy handedness toward negative comments. They could build the best camper under the sun but it would never darken my driveway.

x eleventy. + reports elsewhere of awesome aftersales service.
Wonder why they changed their name.. strange move....


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Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: Rumpig on October 15, 2016, 08:25:28 PM
I wouldnt own one simply because of their attitude and heavy handedness toward negative comments. They could build the best camper under the sun but it would never darken my driveway.
sadly though they seem to be doing ok for themselves...I drive past their big flash wharehouse regularly and there's a heap of trailers in their yard, and trucks dropping off 4 or 5 more at a time on a regular basis. Changing their name appears to be working for them looking in from the outside
Title: Re: Black Series.... thoughts
Post by: rsteedman on October 18, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
I've got a Patron. I've been on 2 quick weekend trips and a week on Fraser.
Except for busting off the jockey wheel handle (operator error) I can't really fault it.

Yeah, there's a few corners cut in the quality of the finish but it all functions. I will redo some of the wiring to suit my needs and a couple of other changes in due course (upgrade water pump etc).

I will note, I haven't weighed it yet, but I'm concerned about the ball weight. As with most FF campers.

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