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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Coolblue80 on August 18, 2016, 05:51:28 PM
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Righto, our 6 y.o. Bosch has Shit itself completely. We are looking at $400 to fix it and would rather tip that money into a new one. I was looking at Meile and Asko but for expensive machines, they seem to have their share of problems. Westinghouse was on the list but has mixed reviews. Will not have L.G. in my house. Also looked at an Ariston which seems to have a good following. I know that you will get haters of all brands and always the chance of getting a lemon.
Any feedback would be appreciated. Wifey has started expecting me to wash up. Shits getting real.
Cheers, Mike.
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The newer series dish drawers from F&P are much better than the old ones were. I actually like them now. We have asko clothes washer and dryer combo - the mrs wont tell me how much she paid for them, but I'd recommend getting extended warranty if you decide to go with them. We've had good after sales service with them, but like Land Rover, they bloody well need it.
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Have had no problems with our Miele in 5 years
Swannie
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Don't use dishwashing liquid in what ever you get... I learnt the hard way that it is not compatible with dishwashers... I blame the English - Strine translation failing, and me believing that if it says dishwashing liquid that it goes in the dishwasher...
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We have the Armstrong brand dishwasher, been going strong now for years and really reliable, Uses stuff all power and is reasonable on the water bill too, pretty quiet in the operation mode and leaves the dishes etc sparkly clean..
The only real time it has had problems, is if its had too many beers prior to being set into operation.. ;D
Sorry couldnt help it, The last one we had was a Westinghouse from memory, never had a drama with it in over the 5 years we lived there ..
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We have the Armstrong brand dishwasher, been going strong now for years and really reliable, Uses stuff all power and is reasonable on the water bill too, pretty quiet in the operation mode and leaves the dishes etc sparkly clean..
The only real time it has had problems, is if its had too many beers prior to being set into operation.. ;D
Sorry couldnt help it, The last one we had was a Westinghouse from memory, never had a drama with it in over the 5 years we lived there ..
Hahaha. We've got a rule in our house. I don't mop her floors, she doesn't mow my lawn. So I need a d/washer ASAP.
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We replaced our Simpson last year with a Smeg. Does the job.
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We have an LG with no issues for about 5 years (I know you don't want one)
Cutlery rack at the top is useless and a waste of space. Only use it for the sharp knives.
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Asko
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We have an ariston, we had an LG last time and found it didn't heat the water hot enough.
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Have had no problems with our Miele in 5 years
Swannie
X2 had ours for 8yrs still as good as new
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We have an ariston, we had an LG last time and found it didn't heat the water hot enough.
Very interested to know which model you have and any more thoughts on your Ariston. I really am leaning towards them. Sick of paying big bucks thinking you are getting a better product, yet it still Shits itself the same as a cheapy would.
Cheers, Mike.
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We bought our 2nd Meile last year. The 1st one lasted more than 20 years.
We plumbed ours to the hot water which has reduced our costs as we have gas hot water. It would work even better with solar.
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So.. I just put a new f&p double dish drawer into the house...
Why might you ask.
Well I've had a single one in my caravan for the past 3 years and it's been on the roughest roads in the country and is still going strong...! It has worked flawlessly for the day it went in. Gets run from generators, weird water and all the normal camping environments and it's still like new and gets used everyday...
I think that's not a bad test to see how the dishwasher performs.
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Ariston. Quietest dishwasher we have ever had
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I married a dishwasher and she still works just like new ;D
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Asko. Got 18yrs on ours with a solenoid valve and a capacitor replaced along the way. I'd buy another Asko without hesitation ... It's not dead yet :D
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We had a Samsung it was a piece of Shit, had the same problem fixed 3 times under warranty then I demanded a refund. Bought a Bosch an couldn't be happier.
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We've had an AEG for 30 years now. The cutlery basket has developed some annoying cracks, the stainless steel lining is mildly discoloured and the tenants we had in at one stage cracked the outer casing. So we need to replace it.
Gosh they are expensive for brands that brand that don't have good reputations..... And the specs show the old one is still quieter than anything I have seen in the market today. >:(
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We've got a cheap Dishlex. It's going on 6 yrs old now. Had no dramas at all.
Every fortnight we give it a cycle with the Finish brand dishwasher cleaner and that's it.
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I married a dishwasher and she still works just like new ;D
lucky you...mines got a whine coming from it that wasn't there when I first got it
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We bought a Bosch for our last house and it was great for the 3 years we were there. We currently have a Smeg which would be 14 years old now and the hinged cover where you open the door has just jammed so I took it out and the detergent lid doesn't release so I throw a tablet in the bottom with no issues whatsoever.
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Our Miele lasted 14 years.
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Have had no problems with our Miele in 5 years
Swannie
Same. Had ours for 5 years also and still going strong.
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We have a Siemens dishwasher. Supposed to be the next level up from the Bosch range of products (same manufacturer) with Siemens being the premium range and Bosch mid range quality.
It does a good job of washing the dishes and is quiet.
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Another for Asko.
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We moved into a house that had a resonably new F&P dish drawer. While it washed things ok was a complete pain in the bum to stack and seemed to be forever in need of unstacking or stacking. Each drawer was just a bit small for us meaning we were getting nearly two loads each day. If you dropped something down the bottom, like a spoon the whole lot has to come out to dig it out or you can't wash. Our dinner plates would only fit on one side of the drawer, so limited how you could stack stuff in it, pots and pans were hard to fit. The kids were forever loading up the wrong one, or complaining there was no clean dishes becuase they looked in the wrong one. Absolutely hated it.
Despite it being an expensive machine I pulled it out, sold it and installed a Miele. Soo much easier to pack. Now we do about 5-6 loads per week, not 12-14. It has had a fault that took a couple of weeks to fix due to a technician not reading his job sheet properly, but I suspect it was related to a water outage/ surge and not the machine.
Our last house had an Electrolux that worked well except for a heater element fault, but I prefer the Miele we have now.
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8 year Asko at our old house, getting one for the new place when it's finished... Everything is dry the end of the way cycle... Can't go wrong!
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Our Asko only lasted 3 years (main control board died, approx $400 to fix). Wouldn't go there again!
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Like anything all dishwashers have their pros and cons. When I was an Asko tech. there were a few problems with certian models, mostly main boards or capacitors. These were covered under warranty...until warranty expired then it was up to the customer to buy new or reconditioned boards(with the same fault). Pretty sure most brands have problems similar to this, check reviews of particular models before buying. Our current house has a LG twin draw installed and the missus loves it, don't have to wait till whole dishwasher is full to do a load etc. Asko definately washes better than the LG.
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I married mine about 21yrs ago and worked well. I then got an offspring version 9yrs ago and both still working well.
Very expensive to run!
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I would go a Miele, we have had less call backs on them in all the years I have been building multi level apartments, had one in my last place and when the one dies in our place it will be a Miele
GG
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one other thing to consider is what brands the local service agents look after...
you may end up buying a brand that can't be serviced locally...
we just got a new F&P and that was after having another F&P for over 10 years with one repaired issue.
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My current Fisher & Paykel is going great after 14 years. Prior dishwasher at old place was F&P with no problems. Good brand I recommend.
As mentioned in our area F&P service agents are very good.
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We bought an Omega unit about 7 years ago, and it lasted less than 2 years.
Replaced it with another Omega, which also lasted less than 2 years.
Third Omega again less than 2 years.
Donated a new Omega to a sister in law, lasted 14 months.
Only reason we kept using Omega was we got them through work at a price less than a meat pie.
Spent the big dollars for a Miele but that was a piece of krap, leaking and then not working at all, and we returned it after a few weeks.
We have now had an Ariston for 12 months and it works well.
Although they seem to work pretty well until they die I would advise to avoid Omega unless you get them free and don't mind the replacement labour.
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Id be happy with Sadie..
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Very interested to know which model you have and any more thoughts on your Ariston. I really am leaning towards them. Sick of paying big bucks thinking you are getting a better product, yet it still Shits itself the same as a cheapy would.
Cheers, Mike.
We had an ASKO which died at about 7 years of age. Replaced it with an Ariston. HATED it from the day it was installed. The ASKO was superior IMO. The ASKO was like the Tardis. You could fit so much in and could move racks etc around. The Ariston doesn't come close.
My time again with the choice of these two. ASKO without a doubt.
All electrical appliances we get extended warranty to 5 years.
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Is this what your looking for? ;D >:D
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Asko. Got 18yrs on ours with a solenoid valve and a capacitor replaced along the way. I'd buy another Asko without hesitation ... It's not dead yet :D
X2....ASKO all the way...Swedish breed.....Had absolutely no trouble 8 years now !
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We had an Asco too. Made in Europe somewhere.
It came with the house when we purchased it.
Aparrantly replacement cost in vicinity of $2000
We said fk that. Purchased an LG for $800.
I can't see the difference between a $2000 and an $800 dishwasher.
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Is this what your looking for? ;D >:D
A quick count and i figure there is a new one available for every week of the year !!!! with the few extra that are there are for possible sick days ect. >:D >:D >:D
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i had to buy a dishwasher last year
found the one i got off an ebay seller as a scratch and dent unit but brand new
got it for $50.00 and yeah it's still going
had a look last night and it's a SMEG
i had some issues with the buttons
two come out of their holders but was able to fix them myself ( two of the three to start the machine)
if i had paid full price for it that would have peed me off a bit
two things i don't like about it
when it finishes its wash the unit stays on in a standby mode
and the layout of the bottom rack not 100% suitable for us
because of the button issue i would be looking at other brands next time around
hopefully i find another $1200 unit for $50
:cheers:
Adam
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I would go a Miele, we have had less call backs on them in all the years I have been building multi level apartments, had one in my last place and when the one dies in our place it will be a Miele
GG
Except they're a PITA to deal with on a commercial level. Order via HN commercial and the like and then Miele contact us direct for immediate payment before they'll commit to delivery dates. No 30 day accounts.
Its a privilege for you to use them.
I always try to respec them where I can.
I do agree they have a very good product.
If our 15 year old Bosch ever dies I'll probably go Fisher & Paykel.
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We had a very old Miele in our last house. When it came time to replace the one in the current house we also bought a Miele .
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Same. Had ours for 5 years also and still going strong.
Had our Miele for 7 years. Very quiet and no issues.
MarkVS
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Had a Westinghouse for 19 yrs and have just replaced with a Bosch. Quality isn't what it used to be !! Even with a Bosch, they are made in 3 different countries.......Poland for the cheap ones, Spain for the middle of the range and Germany for top of the range.
If you don't like paying $1000 plus for a dishwasher, get a cheapy and hope it lasts.
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Had a Westinghouse for 19 yrs and have just replaced with a Bosch. Quality isn't what it used to be !! Even with a Bosch, they are made in 3 different countries.......Poland for the cheap ones, Spain for the middle of the range and Germany for top of the range.
If you don't like paying $1000 plus for a dishwasher, get a cheapy and hope it lasts.
I'm happy to spend the money. Our Bosch cost us 15 hunj and was German made and still Shit itself. I'm just sick of paying big dollars for perceived quality only to find out it's no better than the cheap stuff.
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Hi, Miele. Our first one was 16 years old and the new one is going a treat.
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Our Asko only lasted 3 years (main control board died, approx $400 to fix). Wouldn't go there again!
We had the same with ours, except it was only $170 for the board, but then the board blew again 6 months later.. Ripped it out and replaced it with a Miele, no problems since. That was about 4 years ago.
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I'm happy to spend the money. Our Bosch cost us 15 hunj and was German made and still Shit itself. I'm just sick of paying big dollars for perceived quality only to find out it's no better than the cheap stuff.
As I said, quality isn't what it used to be. Everything now built to a price. Google dishwashers......they all have their issues....hopefully only under warranty.
I wanted to keep under $1000, so the "best" I could find was Bosch, so I hope it lasts 1/2 as long as the old good quality Westinghouse I had for 19 yrs !
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As I said, quality isn't what it used to be. Everything now built to a price. Google dishwashers......they all have their issues....hopefully only under warranty.
my brother fixed washing machines and dishwashers for a living, so I asked him what to get when we bought ours.....he pretty much said what you just wrote, all the brands have issues. Old machines were built with metal cogs that are now plastic, simple rials now replaced with computer boards etc etc...he told me just to buy a cheap one, which we did and haven't had any major issues with it to date. The front plastic handle / fascia panel started to split on it after about 4 years, my brother replaced it and all is still going fine currently.