Post by: scrapsD40 on June 05, 2016, 12:15:54 PM
I do on ocassion cut a little bit of firewood for home (as opposed to a lot of firewood when camping
), and according to my shoulder the day has arrived, and hopefully the tax cheque, to allow me to look at a heavy duty log splitter.My budget should be in the vicinity of $1,500 to $2,000 and for this I seem to be in the market for a 30 to 40 tonne unit.
The unit will be used at home either on the front driveway or in the back yard, and only for short sessions 1/2hr to 1hr max. My neighbours also have a wood fire, so most likely they'll borrow it on ocassion, so noise of the motor shouldn't be an issue.
Accepting that electric is possibly the quietest, and least maintenance, I'm also looking at a diesel motor with electric start, but wonder if petrol is less maintenance.
Who used what and what's the use/maintenance history like?
This was last year's harvest (being burnt this winter) that was all split by hand, so need something a bit heavy duty.
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Post by: Dingo0163 on June 05, 2016, 12:31:15 PM
Post by: tracker on June 05, 2016, 01:40:35 PM
Cheers Tracker.
Post by: UIZ733 on June 05, 2016, 02:09:48 PM
Take your pick. Cheap to boot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sCGb678sQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sCGb678sQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHV0BlvjMc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHV0BlvjMc)
With a V6 Nissan Diesel, the second example would be a ripper........................literally. ;D
Post by: Johnnos3003 on June 05, 2016, 02:17:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHV0BlvjMc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuHV0BlvjMc)
wow...
Post by: fuji on June 05, 2016, 02:17:50 PM
Post by: mrdenn1s on June 05, 2016, 02:25:04 PM
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 05, 2016, 02:30:18 PM
The one from Whitlands looks good but 4.5k is a bit much.??Hired one of them from our local last year. Nice units, but out of my budget.
Having said that, I know if I invest well, I might be able to hire mine out too
Post by: tk421 on June 05, 2016, 03:38:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sCGb678sQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40sCGb678sQ)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsObwqD788 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsObwqD788)
But this is what you need: https://youtu.be/o7QMlcVqHrs (https://youtu.be/o7QMlcVqHrs)
Post by: UIZ733 on June 05, 2016, 03:43:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsObwqD788 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMsObwqD788)Holy $hit. ;D Some sphincter twitching moments there. Darwinian theory at its best! ;D
But this is what you need: https://youtu.be/o7QMlcVqHrs (https://youtu.be/o7QMlcVqHrs)
Post by: tk421 on June 05, 2016, 04:00:09 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZKtaoxZ1E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZKtaoxZ1E)
http://www.redgumproducts.com.au/log-splitter/redgum-gx200-log-splitter (http://www.redgumproducts.com.au/log-splitter/redgum-gx200-log-splitter)
Post by: Dingo0163 on June 05, 2016, 04:09:49 PM
All silliness aside. Honda make the best stationary motors in the world. I'd be looking a unit with a Honda Petrol engine. And one that splits vertically. You won't have to lift the bigger logs
The one I've got you can pull a pin and use it vertically or horizontally. It also has a Honda on it.
Post by: Hoyks on June 05, 2016, 05:49:35 PM
Post by: GGV8Cruza on June 05, 2016, 05:59:42 PM
I have a mother load coming to me in the coming weeks so I think I will need a splitter to get through it all, will watch with interest
GG
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 05, 2016, 07:16:14 PM
I've got a 40 tonne key start now. Wouldn't be without it. It's a 13.5 hp petrol and even the missus can use it. If your neighbours are going to use it , make sure they have a ride on to move it. They do have a tow hitch and they are heavy. I got it for $1600 on sale already assembled. You can assemble it yourself or pay an extra $200 for them to do it. A mate got a 30 tonne unit and told me to spend the extra on a 40 tonne because his worked hard on some of the knotty stuff.
Thnx, good info on the difference between the 30t and 40t. Mostly split mountain ash, but on occasion do stumble across Nagambie yellow box, and Murray River redgum, so the extra power will be worth it. The key start is also of interest.
All silliness aside. Honda make the best stationary motors in the world. I'd be looking a unit with a Honda Petrol engine. And one that splits vertically. You won't have to lift the bigger logs so far. Something like this.thnx, this looks the goods and yes re the motor. Best to get a quality unit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZKtaoxZ1E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ZKtaoxZ1E)
http://www.redgumproducts.com.au/log-splitter/redgum-gx200-log-splitter (http://www.redgumproducts.com.au/log-splitter/redgum-gx200-log-splitter)
I normally hand split and stack, what is it worth to hire for the weekend for a good unit. I would have thought it more economical to hire one once a year have a split wood party and take it back, repeat the following. You don't need somewhere to store it and they maintain it.thnx Garrick, I really enjoy splitting and stacking by hand as it's good exercise but those days are coming to and end for what I need for home each season. Hiring should be easy option, but in season you have to book the units weeks in advance and then the pressure is on to maximise hire time and pump through as much as you can. I've also found the units around here are well used and not as well maintained as one might think.
I have a mother load coming to me in the coming weeks so I think I will need a splitter to get through it all, will watch with interest
GG
If I do pursue this option, it'll be a long term investment like my chainsaws. Hopefully something the sons can use in years to come if you buy right and maintain well.
There's also a chance I can hire it out to Fuji and get my money back pretty quick
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 05, 2016, 07:17:10 PM
Post by: #jonesy on June 05, 2016, 08:28:07 PM
I towed it to the ski club in Mansfield. It took a whole day for a group of us to split a 20m truckload of rounds which were huge, many were a 2 person lift.
The unit had a horizontal ram. The "operator" and "loader" were on opposite sides of the log so lining up the cuts was impossible. The blade was at 90 degrees so a few were "squeezed" out with a bang
Last year we used a vertical ram and I liked it much better. The blade had an angle so it pulled the log back towards the upright. You could also manoeuvre the log as you lined up the cut.
Post by: xcvator on June 05, 2016, 10:04:07 PM
Post by: GGV8Cruza on June 06, 2016, 06:57:28 AM
FFS, you've gotta wife haven't you :angel: why have a dog and bark yourself >:D >:D >:D
And he is back from the wilds with a bit of internet
Hope the trip is going well Keith
GG
Post by: moose2367 on June 06, 2016, 11:01:33 AM
Post by: fuji on June 09, 2016, 10:26:26 PM
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 11, 2016, 08:15:47 PM
Thought I would go halvesy with you Scott.So we can get the really big one then
Post by: speewa158 on June 11, 2016, 08:31:55 PM
Post by: scrapsD40 on June 11, 2016, 08:46:07 PM
Silly Old Bugger put your back into it ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Slab of green on offer if you come and split my trailer load of wood,,,,,,,,,,
Post by: speewa158 on June 11, 2016, 08:49:15 PM
Dreaming .
Post by: Woore on June 12, 2016, 09:45:24 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40T-Log-Splitter-MILLERS-FALLS-Wood-Splitter-NEW-MODEL-2-stage-pump-13HP-/301701091753?hash=item463ec951a9:g:0XkAAOSwstxVUDKA (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/40T-Log-Splitter-MILLERS-FALLS-Wood-Splitter-NEW-MODEL-2-stage-pump-13HP-/301701091753?hash=item463ec951a9:g:0XkAAOSwstxVUDKA)
Post by: idlegossip on June 13, 2016, 11:00:22 AM
For the $600 odd I paid for it a few years ago if it lasts me 6 to 8 years more than worth it, works out cheaper than hiring and I don't have to split the whole lot in a hurry, can do it bit by bit.
Post by: speewa158 on June 13, 2016, 04:30:08 PM
Post by: Bird on July 07, 2016, 04:11:09 PM
Post by: Hoyks on July 07, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
9hp subaru motor running for 5 hours was 1 tank full. If i had the $$ and could justify it, I get one, but $170 for be to process 6m3 of wood in a day, which is more wood than we will use in 2 years, I can't really justify it. And I don't have to do any maintenance on it, I just take it back.
Post by: Swogjb on July 07, 2016, 09:04:50 PM
It works a treat.
It has a Kohler 9hp petrol motor that starts first pull every time.
The reason I went for this splitter is that the cycle time is much quicker than most of the Chinese splitters on the market.
I've seen the Millers Falls 40 ton splitters in action and the Oregon craps all over it in speed and splitting power.
IMO a quality pull start motor is a far better option than an electric start Chonda.
The Oregon splitter was not much more expensive than the Chinese units.
:cheers:
Post by: Woore on July 08, 2016, 06:45:13 AM
I've got an Oregon 28 ton splitter.
It works a treat.
It has a Kohler 9hp petrol motor that starts first pull every time.
The reason I went for this splitter is that the cycle time is much quicker than most of the Chinese splitters on the market.
I've seen the Millers Falls 40 ton splitters in action and the Oregon craps all over it in speed and splitting power.
IMO a quality pull start motor is a far better option than an electric start Chonda.
The Oregon splitter was not much more expensive than the Chinese units.
:cheers:
How much? And where?
Cheers
Post by: prodigyrf on July 08, 2016, 07:25:20 PM
wow...
Yeah the chariot wheel screw works well but you'd want to be careful a split log doesn't jump off and under the back of the wheel because guess what could happen if it makes contact with the rotating tyre and the ground? The bloke in the video appears to be oblivious to the risk, as well as the leverage that occurs with that stalled block.
Post by: Hoyks on July 08, 2016, 08:45:56 PM
Post by: prodigyrf on July 08, 2016, 09:55:27 PM
Post by: scrapsD40 on September 11, 2016, 07:59:57 AM
Looking at these 2 options, but on the bigger unit, for the extra $$'s I can get bigger capacity, bigger motor and 5 year warranty. I'll be supporting a local business who service all our mowers, chainsaws etc. Plus if I buy in my son's name, we can get the gst back.
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Thoughts?
Post by: D4D on September 11, 2016, 08:02:57 AM
Thoughts?
Bigger is betterer :)
Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on September 11, 2016, 12:21:24 PM
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Post by: Troopy_03 on September 11, 2016, 01:02:26 PM
https://youtu.be/cERfH3v089M (https://youtu.be/cERfH3v089M)
Post by: scrapsD40 on September 11, 2016, 01:16:45 PM
There are a few good ones here. Might be overkill for domestic supply thoughMan, you wanna be careful posting videos like that. The mod's around here don't take kindly to porn
https://youtu.be/cERfH3v089M (https://youtu.be/cERfH3v089M)
no gel needed tonight
And I should correct you on your domestic perception. One day if you ever come camping with us here in the VHC you'll realise most of those would be more than adequate for our standards
I don't like odd numbers
Post by: Troopy_03 on September 11, 2016, 01:30:55 PM
Man, you wanna be careful posting videos like that. The mod's around here don't take kindly to porn
And I should correct you on your domestic perception. One day if you ever come camping with us here in the VHC you'll realise most of those would be more than adequate for our standards
I don't like odd numbers
Yeah, I get you on the VHC, I hate the cold. The big problem with a lot of the yank ones is they mainly use softwood, pines and oaks etc. Be interesting to see how they perform with a bit of wriggly grain iron bark eh?
Post by: Kangaron on September 11, 2016, 02:03:19 PM
http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/log-splitter-specials (http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/log-splitter-specials)
Post by: scrapsD40 on September 11, 2016, 06:38:16 PM
Melbourne Mower Center has a reasonable variety to choose from.
http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/log-splitter-specials (http://www.melbournesmowercentre.com.au/log-splitter-specials)
Thnx K
I don't like odd numbers
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