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Title: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on May 30, 2016, 06:54:13 PM
Damn starter motor in my 105 landcruiser is dying.

There are 2 options get some parts and fix it for $58 or get a oem one from ebay with 5 year replacement Warranty for $190.00 posted here to Mt Barnett.

Thoughts please.

Mark
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2016, 06:59:44 PM
Mark,

If you are certain the parts will fix the problem, then that would be the best result IMO.

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on May 30, 2016, 07:04:36 PM
Mark,

If you are certain the parts will fix the problem, then that would be the best result IMO.

 :cheers:

Thats the hard part I am not sure. My thoughts were to get the new one just in case the parts did not fix it. Our mail plane is once a week so may get the parts at a later date and keep the old one.

Mark
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Nomad on May 30, 2016, 07:05:55 PM
You could almost get a whole ford explorer for that price!  :cup:
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: feisty on May 30, 2016, 07:21:28 PM
You could almost get a whole ford explorer for that price!  :cup:

Yeah but to get the gangsta version is nearly 11k
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160530/07af4644428ef3fc8bca2b223b2e5d3d.jpg)

Seriously though. I would go new. Hate doing jobs two and three times and I'm in the city. If i lived in the outback. Well....... buying new is a no brainer IMO.
 Seems like a pretty decent price too
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: GeoffA on May 30, 2016, 07:27:16 PM
Thats the hard part I am not sure. My thoughts were to get the new one just in case the parts did not fix it. Our mail plane is once a week so may get the parts at a later date and keep the old one.

Mark

If you're not sure, then get both and carry one as a spare.....

 :cheers:
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: plusnq on May 30, 2016, 07:52:36 PM
If you're not sure, then get both and carry one as a spare.....

 :cheers:

Is that the Ford Explorer or the starter motor ?

 ;D
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: pinarelloman on May 31, 2016, 06:20:31 AM
Mark,I am inBroome and start the Gibb on 6June.
Happy to pick up the required parts or new starter in town for you. We should be at Mt Barnett about the 10June.
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: edz on May 31, 2016, 07:31:29 AM
Could always just undo the power wires 13 or 14  mm nut from memory  [ careful not to short it out ]  undo the three screws of the  solenoid end plate cover, drop the solenoid plunger out and clean the copper contact plates up with some emmery cloth [ will be worn a bit and carbon burn deposits  most likely ] then reassemble ..
Our V6 Four runner took all of 15 minutes to do and didnt have to remove the starter from the engine .. Has been strong now for thhree years since doing it .
Might be worth giving this a try first got nothing to lose eccept 15 minutes and enjoying a couple of beers .
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Aaron Schubert on May 31, 2016, 07:47:39 AM
190 bucks seems pretty cheap, considering where you are and the comfort of having a reliable starter motor. If its more than a couple of years old I'd just replace it

Aaron
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on May 31, 2016, 08:32:54 AM
Mark,I am inBroome and start the Gibb on 6June.
Happy to pick up the required parts or new starter in town for you. We should be at Mt Barnett about the 10June.

Pm sent.

Mark
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: shanegtr on May 31, 2016, 08:57:26 AM
if your starter is anything like my old 1HZ 80 series then the contact simply wear out. Easy enough job to remove and inspect to insure thats your issue before ordering parts
http://www.offroad80s.com/starter-motor-issue-t3068.html?hilit=starter%20contacts (http://www.offroad80s.com/starter-motor-issue-t3068.html?hilit=starter%20contacts)
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: WilSurf on May 31, 2016, 11:16:46 AM
What I have been told is that removing the starter motor is a pain.
Therefore I would go for a new one so you know it is all good.
Otherwise you have to get the starter out again.
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on May 31, 2016, 11:32:38 AM
or get a oem one from ebay with 5 year replacement Warranty for $190.00 posted here to Mt Barnett.

Thoughts please.

Mark

You won't get a new OEM (Denso) starter for under $200. You'll be lucky to get a secondhand one from the wreckers delivered for that money.

You will buy some piece of Shit off eBay with the letters O, E and M for under $200 though. It guaranteed to let you down within 5 years.

You should be able to get an exchange Denso unit from an auto elec for about the same coin.

Don't buy the cheap one, it'll let you down.
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Joff on May 31, 2016, 11:45:28 AM
Sounds cheap enough just to get a new one. the starter on my BMW bike cost me $450 and it's 1/4 the size of the one in my LC105
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Bird on May 31, 2016, 11:47:29 AM
Quote from: WilSurf
What I have been told is that removing the starter motor is a pain.
Therefore I would go for a new one so you know it is all good..
removing it isn't the issue, but peace of mind its going to when when your stuck somewhere is worth it.
Title: Re: Stater motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on May 31, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
Some pics

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160531/71b0fffc9b07ccf4f55819a5ee9578af.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160531/b91a1e545087b4c5a030abceac8c6526.jpg)


I had this put in about 4 years ago.

Mark

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Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on May 31, 2016, 12:20:44 PM
Just ordered one from an auto electrician in Broome. A denco  / Denso one for $388.00. Told him the brand i had and he said they are crap. Apparantly toyota use the one I am getting.

Happy with that.

Dave Pm sent re pick up in Broome. Many thanks mate.

Mark
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Footy Shorts Shane on May 31, 2016, 12:27:51 PM
 :cup:
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: kylarama on May 31, 2016, 05:11:30 PM
If the solenoid setup is the same as Hilux’s, then it’s a common issue with the contacts burning out.  Happen to my Hilux a few years, you had to key it up to half a dozen times before it would fire.  Pulled the starter one weekend and filed the contacts clean.  Good as gold with no issues for the next 6 months.  Then when I pulled the gearbox to do the clutch, I grabbed a contact kit for $40 and replaced them.  No issues from then on.


Keep the old starter and clean or replace the contacts for a spare.

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Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: pinarelloman on June 01, 2016, 04:05:40 PM
Mr McGirr, I have sent you a PM.
We will be visiting the auto elec on Friday anyway, so will collect then.
Do you have an order number?
Dave.
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: achjimmy on June 03, 2016, 06:34:31 PM
Pray it's not a starter for a 200 that's needed!

The denso is a good choice
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on June 03, 2016, 06:38:54 PM
I wish it was for a 200 series  ;D

Thanks Dave for all your help. See you on the 10th June.

Mark
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Bird on June 03, 2016, 06:40:36 PM
Mr McGirr, I have sent you a PM.
We will be visiting the auto elec on Friday anyway, so will collect then.
Do you have an order number?
Dave.
Great work dude.. (http://www.christianmums.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/thsmiley_two_thumbs_up[1].gif)
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: pinarelloman on June 04, 2016, 01:07:34 PM
Swagmail, right place, right time.
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: GeoffA on June 04, 2016, 01:13:07 PM
Swagmail, right place, right time.

.....right attitude..... :cup: :cup:
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: Troopy_03 on June 04, 2016, 01:50:20 PM
If the solenoid setup is the same as Hilux’s, then it’s a common issue with the contacts burning out.  Happen to my Hilux a few years, you had to key it up to half a dozen times before it would fire.  Pulled the starter one weekend and filed the contacts clean.  Good as gold with no issues for the next 6 months.  Then when I pulled the gearbox to do the clutch, I grabbed a contact kit for $40 and replaced them.  No issues from then on.


Keep the old starter and clean or replace the contacts for a spare.

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Same on my old Forerunner. Except I bought new contacts from the local autoelec for 8 bucks the pair. Toyota wante $25 each for them.
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: kylarama on June 06, 2016, 07:07:29 AM
Except I bought new contacts from the local autoelec for 8 bucks the pair. Toyota wante $25 each for them.

The kit I got for $40 came with the 2 contacts and a new plunger.  Not surprised at Toyota's price...
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: pinarelloman on July 03, 2016, 03:53:55 AM
Have you received the starter motor yet?
Title: Re: Starter motor in Landcruiser dying
Post by: McGirr on July 03, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
My mates been away. He is back this week so it will get posted in the next couple of days.

Again many thanks Dave.

Mark