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Title: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: KingBilly on May 12, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
Right hand drive models to cease production in August 2016

http://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1605/production-to-end-for-toyota-fj-cruiser/ (http://www.4x4australia.com.au/news/1605/production-to-end-for-toyota-fj-cruiser/)

KB
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: plusnq on May 12, 2016, 12:36:51 PM
The manufacturers are being forced into more and more boring off road vehicles
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: JSKM on May 12, 2016, 02:39:07 PM
They have been a very big seller in Australia, what a shame Toyota are doing this.

Agree with Plusnq, pushing a more and more boring off road vehicle.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: KingBilly on May 12, 2016, 05:57:26 PM
Haven't been made in left hand drive since 2014, so their fate was decided some time ago

KB
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Fizzie on May 13, 2016, 07:18:59 AM
I seem to remember reading when they came out, along the lines that they were never intended to be a full market line, but were only built as a short-run promo vehicle, or something like that; but when they hit the street, they went off like hot cakes, to Toyota's surprise  ???
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Mr Man on May 13, 2016, 08:25:00 AM
I have always been undecided on how I feel about the new FJ
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: tk421 on May 13, 2016, 12:21:01 PM
Sad that its going. I agree, it is a bit of a love hate shape, and I think from speaking to owners there are compromises to owning it, but I love the look of it and they are fun off road. 

Realistically, its old tech now based on the older Hilux/Prado's suspension, shorty chassis and older V6 engines, and it's had declining sales - they only sold 87 new ones in Jan this year - same as the Defender. Probably just not viable anymore for a high volume manufacturer to make such a niche vehicle.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: NewieCamper on May 13, 2016, 04:38:20 PM
Wonder how many would have sold with a diesel or a manual option? When it first came out it sounded like a 'Murican version of the original - kinda tough, but somehow kinda wrong.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Bird on May 13, 2016, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: Mr Man
I have always been undecided on how I feel about the new FJ
Im not.. they are hideous!
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: doc evil on May 13, 2016, 08:37:38 PM
The manufacturers are being forced into more and more boring off road vehicles

and the FJ ain't. ..........  ??? >:D
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Kiwijohn on May 13, 2016, 08:46:08 PM
Soon as the Fortuner came out something had to go - just too many options in the same bracket.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Bird on May 13, 2016, 09:58:45 PM
and the FJ ain't. ..........  ??? >:D
The 80 and GQ were the last of the serious wheelers...
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Mr Man on May 14, 2016, 12:13:15 AM
Im not.. they are hideous!
I was trying to be diplomatic.
Yeah they make me cringe I hate the look, the colours and the fact they have a Toyota badge. I'd have more respect for them if the badge said Mahindra.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: me217 on May 14, 2016, 01:04:05 AM
when they first came out i really didnt like them, but after seeing a few of them getting around town withe a fair bit of work done they look quite good. reminds me a an offroad buggy from the front view.

dont think i would ever own one though.

(http://i773.photobucket.com/albums/yy15/frdh/IMG_0005-1.jpg)
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: kylarama on May 14, 2016, 06:50:07 AM
Retro based cars are always going to have a limited lifespan.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: NewieCamper on May 14, 2016, 07:29:40 AM
Retro based cars are always going to have a limited lifespan.
Yup, there's a bunch of people that race out to get one to relive the glory days, then once all those people have one you need to have something special to get others to buy them. A petrol only, auto only, two door (well, it's no good for kids in the back) that looks a bit weird isn't going to win many over.

If it had four proper doors, a diesel, 7 seats it would make a much better family tow wagon
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: KingBilly on May 14, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
If it had four proper doors, a diesel, 7 seats it would make a much better family tow wagon

Yep, Toyota have such a vehicle, it's called a Prado  ;D ;D ;D

KB
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: downhilly72 on May 14, 2016, 11:36:41 AM
i think in stock trim they look a tad sad but once modified look sick and are quite capable.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: rags on May 14, 2016, 07:11:24 PM
 A very capable car out of the box , considering it has the the under pinings of the prado
* coil rear end
* coil over strut front end
* all the usual traction control stuff
* rear diff lock
* 159 ltr fuel tank
 
Add to that some after market accessaries from the huge range available and you end up with a very capable car.  It has its limitations  being size internal but great for 2 people to travel in.

I would love one as a play 4x4

Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: The punter on May 14, 2016, 07:18:09 PM
A very capable car out of the box , considering it has the the under pinings of the prado
* coil rear end
* coil over strut front end
* all the usual traction control stuff
* rear diff lock
* 159 ltr fuel tank
 
Add to that some after market accessaries from the huge range available and you end up with a very capable car.  It has its limitations  being size internal but great for 2 people to travel in.

I would love one as a play 4x4

Yep, that's why I bought one. My kids have their own cars, there's no better 4wd in terms of cabin space for touring for two. The best entry and exit angle of any 4wd and 10k less than the Prado  price tag. I love mine, it's a great car. No fuss, no leather, no fancy hoo ha, I chuck my dogs, firewood and all sorts of kit in the back and it's great
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: kylarama on May 14, 2016, 09:22:40 PM
Yep, Toyota have such a vehicle, it's called a Prado  ;D ;D ;D

KB
I wonder if in 30 years Toyota will do a Retro 90 Series
Yep, that's why I bought one. My kids have their own cars, there's no better 4wd in terms of cabin space for touring for two. The best entry and exit angle of any 4wd and 10k less than the Prado  price tag. I love mine, it's a great car. No fuss, no leather, no fancy hoo ha, I chuck my dogs, firewood and all sorts of kit in the back and it's great


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Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: doc evil on May 15, 2016, 07:47:53 AM
The 80 and GQ were the last of the serious wheelers...

have to agree there bird but I'd include the GU. Anything that you need to press a button or twist a dial to engage 4wd or have fancy electronics to "assist" with your 4wding ability isn't a true offroad vehicle.........
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Skinnee on May 15, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
have to agree there bird but I'd include the GU. Anything that you need to press a button or twist a dial to engage 4wd or have fancy electronics to "assist" with your 4wding ability isn't a true offroad vehicle.........

Just like any vehicle with 33" , lift and lockers hey? 

Have a bog standard 68 series 2 Land Rover I think your vehicle is too technical to be considered a true off road vehicle  :cheers:
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: GanG on May 15, 2016, 07:56:05 PM
The way some folks rail against progress we would all be driving willeys jeeps in the bush.........its a shame that the gizmos seem to make some owners believe they no longer need to be able to drive, or that they are an alternative to experience.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: MattP on May 15, 2016, 09:31:50 PM
I don't understand why people say it should have four doors and seven seats.  As mentioned before that's what the Prado is for.  The FJ as I understand it is based on the three door (not four door) Prado Chassis which is why it is lighter than the 4D Prado and more designed for recreational rather than a family off road tourer.  The suicide doors are a compromise but 100% better then two doors in the 3D Prado on which it is based.  They're built for a different demographic.  Great for two people for touring with the power to weight ratio.  No diesel! Now that's a valid argument, the limited volume put paid to that.  Mind you the petrol six is bullet proof and there is the 10K saving on purchase price over the Prado.  With both doors open you can use the blower vac and a damp rag for a quick clean given the vinyl floors and water resistant seats.  I love it.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: Rob Mac on May 15, 2016, 10:45:57 PM
""Have a bog standard 68 series 2 Land Rover I think your vehicle is too technical to be considered a true off road vehicle""

Hi Skinny, today I was at the third cutting coming off Teewah Beach and saw two left hand drive Willey's heading up the beach, leaving a few dozen Jeeps behind them, maybe it was a mass breakdown ))) just joking.
Had to wait for quite a while as two vehicles towing trailers had to be winched / snatched out into the cutting, they had blocked both lanes.
Was a nice weekend on Teewah.
Cheers.
Title: Re: FJ Cruiser dead
Post by: prodigyrf on May 15, 2016, 11:53:22 PM
I don't understand why people say it should have four doors and seven seats.  As mentioned before that's what the Prado is for.  The FJ as I understand it is based on the three door (not four door) Prado Chassis which is why it is lighter than the 4D Prado and more designed for recreational rather than a family off road tourer.  The suicide doors are a compromise but 100% better then two doors in the 3D Prado on which it is based.  They're built for a different demographic.  Great for two people for touring with the power to weight ratio.  No diesel! Now that's a valid argument, the limited volume put paid to that.  Mind you the petrol six is bullet proof and there is the 10K saving on purchase price over the Prado.  With both doors open you can use the blower vac and a damp rag for a quick clean given the vinyl floors and water resistant seats.  I love it.

Yeah that's pretty much how one couple we spoke to with one up at Alice described it. He reckoned it was pinching Prado sales with the discount and it buys a lot of petrol with no CRD turbo engine hassles and maintenance expense. He was interested in our Suzy SX4 experience and with only 2 of us the back seats are gone and the 4 door allows good access to gear in the back. Got a good deal on a low km black one but not my choice of colour and the Cruiser gave me the idea of white vinyl wrap on the roof and it sure makes a difference in hot weather along with slightly illegit window tint. Like you say I really miss the vinyl floor in our 92 L Series Subaru a few cars back. Why do they persist in putting crap carpet in car floors for chrissakes, or at least give us the vinyl option like the Suby?