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General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Rodt on March 31, 2016, 02:25:53 PM
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4 more sleeps then bloody daylight savings is goooone for another year :cup: Still haven't come to like it after being here for only two years
The only problem now will be that my body clock has gotten used to it I will be waking up at 3.30am every morning and going to bed at 7.30pm. The positive to this is I am working my way up to being a grey nomad (currently plenty of Grey but not yet a nomad).
Sunday will bring a whole new world ;D ;D ;D
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Move back to the sensible states that don't have that rubbish. Clocks don't change here. :)
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........Clocks don't change here.......
Symon, are you saying time stands still in Qld?
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Extra hour of daylight fades the curtains..... ;D ;D ;D
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Symon, are you saying time stands still in Qld?
Nah, its already perfect up here, we don't need to play with clocks to try and compensate :)
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Move back to the sensible states that don't have that rubbish. Clocks don't change here. :)
Sounds like the smart move doesn't it. Unfortunately I am a money wh*re and that means i am here for awhile. At least i get practice in resetting the clock which has been a problem for me in the past (techno retard) ;D
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Change you Clock Change your Smoke Alarm Battery .
lt runs too long for me , But it dose tell me summer is stuffed & its time to look forward to Bathurst 1000 as the start of Summer . ln Summer its not that you see more women its that you see MORE of them .
Disregard any & all references to the " W " word , give it the cold shoulder :cup: :cheers:
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Maybe I won't have to be walking the dogs at 4.30 am .....all the wildlife will miss us - and the other poor buggers who can't sleep either !
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Maybe I won't have to be walking the dogs at 4.30 am .....all the wildlife will miss us - and the other poor buggers who can't sleep either !
But if you got into " Real Time " you could sleep/ work/go camping / play with your dogs & :cheers:
>:D :cheers:
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I feel sorry for the cows... they are going to be woken up early for milking and they dont know about daylight savings
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2 more sleeps who hoo
Some may notice that I jumped from 4 to 2 and I can only put it down to being sleep deprived and not knowing what day it was when I posted the thread (bloody daylight savings) ;D
Rod
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I feel sorry for the cows... they are going to be woken up early for milking and they dont know about daylight savings
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So whats a cow going to do with the extra hour when they cant tell time . ??? ??? & when was the last time you rang the time & got a cow on the line . At the third stroke it will be MOOOOOOOOO ??? Spare me :'( :'( :cheers:
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I reckon QLD should have daylight saving over winter.....give us some sun at the end of the day.....
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I'm not sure why people hate it..
This time of year the sun is going up about 7:30, going down about 6:30...
But in September its up at 5am...so there is 2 hours not used...
1 hour is simple to get used to..travel to the USA, then Europe, then you'll have something to complain about....
Yep its Shite for dairy farmers...but otherwise it should be country-wide...the economic losses suffered by QLD,NT & SA far outweigh a couple of faded curtains
I'd have it all year round if possible...
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Yep its Shite for dairy farmers...but otherwise it should be country-wide...the economic losses suffered by QLD,NT & SA far outweigh a couple of faded curtains
No, all states that have it should wake up to themselves and see that it is a stupid, stupid concept that has no benefit to anyone and scrap it. QLD, WA and the NT all used to have it and scrapped it. Why? Because only the southern states could perceive any kind of benefit from it.
If you want to complain about the economic losses from the time difference, then do something about it and come into line with the states that did the sensible thing and scrapped it.
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i already start work at 5:30. i do not need to get up earlier again. i see plenty of sun after and during work.
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But that's the point isn't it? You're still getting up at 5.30am? I for one am for it...
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No, all states that have it should wake up to themselves and see that it is a stupid, stupid concept that has no benefit to anyone and scrap it.
It works well for me. Let's have it all year round, I say..... :cup:
QLD, WA and the NT all used to have it and scrapped it. Why? Because only the southern states could perceive any kind of benefit from it.
Holding up QLD, WA and the NT as bastions of forward thinking?? :P :P :cup: :cup:
With the shorter (non-existant?) twilight, the northern part of the country would actually benefit more.....
If you want to complain about the economic losses from the time difference, then do something about it and come into line with the states that did the sensible thing and scrapped it.
SA, NT, and WA all tolerate a time difference, and they do it 12 months of the year.
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It works well for me. Let's have it all year round, I say..... :cup:
Holding up QLD, WA and the NT as bastions of forward thinking?? :P :P :cup: :cup:
With the shorter (non-existant?) twilight, the northern part of the country would actually benefit more.....
SA, NT, and WA all tolerate a time difference, and they do it 12 months of the year.
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I with you................just bring the clocks 1hr forward permanently.
Er.....symon not sure Qld has ever had it......I can remember a trial around 1990 but off course Qld were too dopey to accept it
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Love daylight saving.
Have to get up in the dark and go to work with my lights on but then I get home and have some daylight left to do something useful.
I need help though to understand more from those people who do not like it - where does the problem lie?
I was working with a farmer yesterday who hates it - when he reaps at 9:00 am, his crops still have dew on them and he must wait until 10:00 am before they dry. Why cant he just wait till 10?
Kids on the west coast of SA have to go to school in the dark - why cant schools in the west start at 10 rather than 9?
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Love daylight saving.
Have to get up in the dark and go to work with my lights on but then I get home and have some daylight left to do something useful.
I need help though to understand more from those people who do not like it - where does the problem lie?
I was working with a farmer yesterday who hates it - when he reaps at 9:00 am, his crops still have dew on them and he must wait until 10:00 am before they dry. Why cant he just wait till 10?
Kids on the west coast of SA have to go to school in the dark - why cant schools in the west start at 10 rather than 9?
I love daylight savings for lot's of reasons but if people start doing things an hour later because of it, well it sort of defeats the purpose..
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SA, NT, and WA all tolerate a time difference, and they do it 12 months of the year.
Just have the entire country on one time zone. Have the eastern states move back an hour, NT and SA forward 1/2 hour, and WA forward an hour. You southerners get your year round daylight saving, and there are no economic issues with the states being on different time zones. ;D
Er.....symon not sure Qld has ever had it......I can remember a trial around 1990 but off course Qld were too dopey to accept it
Northern Territory had daylight savings in 1917 and 1942–1944
Queensland had daylight savings in 1917, 1942-1944, 1971-1972 and 1989–1992
Western Australia had daylight savings in 1917, 1942-1943, 1974-1975, 1983-1984, 1991-1992 and 2006–2009
off course Qld were too dopey to accept it
And that statement there is why I really get pissed off with daylight savings. It is a concept that only makes some kind of perceived benefit to those who live away from the equator. For those who live closer to the equator it has zero benefit, absolute zero. It appears that the concept of not wanting a system that doesn't work for you somehow equates to having a lack of intelligence.
I can take a ribbing as much as anyone else, but to imply that QLD, WA and the NT are stupid for not having daylight saving shows an ignorance far greater than fading curtains and upset cows.
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Just have the entire country on one time zone. Have the eastern states move back an hour, NT and SA forward 1/2 hour, and WA forward an hour. You southerners get your year round daylight saving, and there are no economic issues with the states being on different time zones. ;D
Northern Territory had daylight savings in 1917 and 1942–1944
Queensland had daylight savings in 1917, 1942-1944, 1971-1972 and 1989–1992
Western Australia had daylight savings in 1917, 1942-1943, 1974-1975, 1983-1984, 1991-1992 and 2006–2009
And that statement there is why I really get pissed off with daylight savings. It is a concept that only makes some kind of perceived benefit to those who live away from the equator. For those who live closer to the equator it has zero benefit, absolute zero. It appears that the concept of not wanting a system that doesn't work for you somehow equates to having a lack of intelligence.
I can take a ribbing as much as anyone else, but to imply that QLD, WA and the NT are stupid for not having daylight saving shows an ignorance far greater than fading curtains and upset cows.
Umm it appears to me that Queensland have tested the waters......far from long term users of daylight saving.......
I still reckon daylight saving in Queensland over winter makes sense......
that's just my opinion and in this case not having a shot at anybody so please don't get offended.
Oh going by averages Qld is due to have another couple of years on daylight saving....maybe we can trial winter this time round.
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As someone who spends 50% of their time in daylight saving and 50% in non-daylight saving, every week of the 'daylight saving' period.... from a lifestyle perspective, I can say that I think daylight saving does benefit those states away from the Equator (southern) and doesn't suit northern states.
As for all of the other arguments (financial, consistency etc), there will be no right answer.
MarkVS
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1 more sleep to go and then goooooooone :cheers:
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I still reckon daylight saving in Queensland over winter makes sense......
We'd be having smoko about an hour after the sun comes up :D
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You actually have to start work before you can have Smoko :-[ :-[ :cheers:
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Umm it appears to me that Queensland have tested the waters......far from long term users of daylight saving.......
The last trial was for three years - how long do you want it to go on for?
Also note that WA has had 4 sucks of the sav after WW2, and each time voted no to it. Might be something in that.
I still reckon daylight saving in Queensland over winter makes sense......
It does, but the southern states would never go for that, so once again the north will differ from the south. So there really isn't any point in trying, just leave the damn clocks alone.
As the old saying goes "only a lunatic would cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it on to the bottom, and then claim to have made longer blanket". ;D
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The last trial was for three years - how long do you want it to go on for?
Also note that WA has had 4 sucks of the sav after WW2, and each time voted no to it. Might be something in that.
It does, but the southern states would never go for that, so once again the north will differ from the south. So there really isn't any point in trying, just leave the damn clocks alone.
As the old saying goes "only a lunatic would cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it on to the bottom, and then claim to have made longer blanket". ;D
You win........not much point contributing anymore to the thread.
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As the old saying goes "only a lunatic would cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it on to the bottom, and then claim to have made longer blanket". ;D
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Yes, that would indeed be silly....but he may claim to be able to use the better part of the blanket....... ;D ;D
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The last trial was for three years - how long do you want it to go on for?
About 65yrs should do it ;D
As the old saying goes "only a lunatic would cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it on to the bottom, and then claim to have made longer blanket". ;D
I moved from NSW to QLD about 5 years ago and the biggest thing I miss is daylight savings, I think what makes QLD's look silly for not having it is the arguments that I regularly hear against it and the lack of any critical thought that has gone into it. Some of the anti crowd I have chatted to are actually against it due to 'not wanting a longer blanket' where as virtually all of the pro crowd I have talked to about it know it just moving the blanket to make the best use out of it.
Growing up with DS meant kids spent more time outside instead of in-front of a screen and families actually did things together outside after parents came home from work, where as now I just try to keep out the light in the morning so my kids don't wake up at 4:30 in summer when it's already bright, I have a friend who grew up in FNQ and moved down to Sydney and was always adamant against DS for QLD especially FNQ but a recent holiday to SEQ with kids quickly changed his view, I can see an argument against it from a FNQ point of view but I think for SEQ its a no brainier.
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I generally find people that use "only a lunatic would cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it on to the bottom, and then claim to have made longer blanket" really have no concept of daylight savings.
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Yes, that would indeed be silly....but he may claim to be able to use the better part of the blanket....... ;D ;D
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Guess it depends on who you are sharing the blanket with :cup:
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Change your clock, change your smoke alarm battery!
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About 65yrs should do it ;D
I moved from NSW to QLD about 5 years ago and the biggest thing I miss is daylight savings, I think what makes QLD's look silly for not having it is the arguments that I regularly hear against it and the lack of any critical thought that has gone into it. Some of the anti crowd I have chatted to are actually against it due to 'not wanting a longer blanket' where as virtually all of the pro crowd I have talked to about it know it just moving the blanket to make the best use out of it.
Some of the excuses from the pro crowd are just as ridiculous. Funny how I make one loose comment and straight away people are on to it, and ignore everything else I wrote in this thread.
Growing up with DS meant kids spent more time outside instead of in-front of a screen and families actually did things together outside after parents came home from work, where as now I just try to keep out the light in the morning so my kids don't wake up at 4:30 in summer when it's already bright,
I grew up without DS and we spent plenty of time outside. I was a teenager during the QLD trial, trying to get my younger siblings to sleep with the sun still up wasn't easy. Too damn hot to close the curtains either.
As I said before, I understand why southerners like it, but it makes no sense when you get closer to the equator. To suggest that those opposing DS due to lack of intelligence or critical thought is just arrogant.
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Change your clock, change your smoke alarm battery!
And your undies
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Gooooooone.
My kids are teenagers now but i found when they were little it was easier to manage the sun coming up early than having it still up late. Always assumed that it was because they were already asleep so make sure the curtains are across and they don't know the difference until their body told them that's enough (not like kids are animals that have to get up and hunt). Teenagers now and all they do is sleep ;D
Also reckon that DS only really suits those who work a 8 - 10 hour day as those of us who are anywhere from 10 - 12 + travel (1 1/2 hours all up in my case) don't have the time in the afternoons anyway.
Even without DS the kids generally get home from school at a reasonable time (depends again on travel) so have plenty of time to be outside. When they get older school homework generally takes over their lives anyway.
Yesterday at 6.30am it was still pre-dawn here and today it is nice sunshine so a big hooray for me :cup: and the kids and the wife are still soundly asleep without any dramas
In the end reading all the posts and comments the only real arguments put forward are those that suit each individual's situation so having a go at others who have a different view (based on their situation) is in itself stupid and self centered.
Happy to see it gone as it doesn't suit my situation (work or otherwise) and would also love the NSW government to have DS (if we have to have it) to only the summer months and not 6 months of the year like it is now.
Have a good non DS day :cheers:
Rod
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.......To suggest that those opposing DS due to lack of intelligence or critical thought is just arrogant.
....and silly.
Whether you like or don't like DS is a personal choice.
We all have different factors that influence our preference.
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l don't mind DS but it just goes on tooooooo longggggggggg :cheers:
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Went for a walk at 6.05 ......came home and remembered to change the clock back !
But I'm still buggered to know how the dogs can tell the time . Within 5 mins every day , dinner is 6.30 on the dot ( never mind the curtain saving allocation ) and 8 am is time to go in the pen whilst we work - very clever sausages 😀
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Yay!! A 25 hour day for me today!!
What to do with that extra hour??
I wonder :angel: :angel:
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l don't mind DS but it just goes on tooooooo longggggggggg :cheers:
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Much better when it was 5 months not 6.
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....and silly.
Whether you like or don't like DS is a personal choice.
We all have different factors that influence our preference.
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Exactly. It is just a preference. Nothing more.
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Some of the excuses from the pro crowd are just as ridiculous. Funny how I make one loose comment and straight away people are on to it, and ignore everything else I wrote in this thread.
I am sure they are but as I am only normally discussing it with people who don't like it I don't come up against them. At the end of the day as others have said I think its mostly experiences and opinions that form peoples preferences so arguments either for or against are generally don't contain too much substance (the few that do have counteracting arguments on the other side) hence my normal question of why not has uncovered a lot of misunderstanding and even some laughable reasons. I realise that you don't actually think that it changes the length of daylight but I have met those who have and just used your comment to emphasise the point.
I grew up without DS and we spent plenty of time outside. I was a teenager during the QLD trial, trying to get my younger siblings to sleep with the sun still up wasn't easy. Too damn hot to close the curtains either.
My kids bedtime is currently mostly before its dark in summer irrespective of DS or not as bed time is when we say however even with two blinds closed they still wake up when it gets light and although we have control over when we send them to bed we don't have control over when their bodies tell them its wake up time.
As I said before, I understand why southerners like it, but it makes no sense when you get closer to the equator.
I found this article http://www.vidcam.com.au/daylightsaving/ (http://www.vidcam.com.au/daylightsaving/) quite interesting, it helped me understand why those in FNQ don't want it as they virtually already have it. I think it also points to SEQ being on a similar time sunrise/sunset as Sydney and Melbourne so arguments that hold true for them I think also hold true for SEQ. The argument then from those against DS in the north that why should we have to be put out because those in SEQ want it is therefore brought out and has merit but it can also then be flipped around by proponents in SEQ to argue that why should we miss out because they don't want it. My biased solution to this would be a vote where those in SEQ would get to vote in isolation to those in the north and then its not one area dictating to the other what they should do, and I would likely get my beloved DS and the north could suit itself.
In all of this I try to maintain the perspective that I should be extremely grateful that we can debate relatively insignificant issues like DS as opposed to those in places like Syria or elsewhere in the middle east who I am pretty sure would love to be stable enough to only have to debate fringe issues.
Also found this article fairly balanced although I disagree with its conclusion. http://greenshack.info/index.php/articles/249-queensland-daylight-saving-time-and-cows.html (http://greenshack.info/index.php/articles/249-queensland-daylight-saving-time-and-cows.html)
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Queensland has had daylight savings on and off for years.
quite interesting, it helped me understand why those in FNQ don't want it as they virtually already have it.
In the nineties, during DS I was actually loosing an hour a day with my work. I was in the Drill and Blast industry and we had stringent times as to when we could blast.
Around the City of Cairns our firing time ( blasting time ) was locked in to 3 pm. So unless I started working ( loading blast holes with explosives ) with the headlights on giving me light, I could not meet this firing time.
My biased solution to this would be a vote where those in SEQ would get to vote in isolation to those in the north and then its not one area dictating to the other what they should do, and I would likely get my beloved DS and the north could suit itself.
I for one have voted in a daylight saving referendum at least twice, both times the people of Queensland, ( Queensland as a whole state ) voted against the return of daylight savings.
To suggest that southern Queensland should have a separate vote is pure nonsense, selfish and undemocratic .
One has to remember that the biggest majority of voters in Queensland live and vote in the southern sector and it was these people who also voted against the return of daylight savings in the state of Queensland.
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Well said Duggie.
I enjoyed DS when we lived in Sydney for 17 years. It worked well and made sense.
But now I live in Cairns. Don't need DS.
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One of the fundamental issues that drives this debate is the variation in daylight hours between summer and winter. Darwin, FNQ and northern WA have little variation (Darwin 11.5 - 12.5) so there is little reason to change operating hours by using daylight savings The southern states (particularly Tasmania) have more daylight hours to play with in summer so daylight savings makes sense.
You will note that despite the debate north vs south no one in the south suggests DS in winter
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I for one have voted in a daylight saving referendum at least twice
Well you should have only voted once as there has only been one referendum in QLD 24yrs ago
To suggest that southern Queensland should have a separate vote is pure nonsense, selfish and undemocratic .
One has to remember that the biggest majority of voters in Queensland live and vote in the southern sector and it was these people who also voted against the return of daylight savings in the state of Queensland.
Selfish, probably an element of that, but if so the argument certainly works in reverse.
Nonsense, certainly no more so than having it cut part way through the Gold/Tweed coast, The West of NSW operates on a different time zone to the rest of the state without any major issues I cant see any issue with allowing the north and west their own choice as to if they want to join SEQ or not.
Undemocratic, I don't buy this for a second government reports have said QLD as a whole is for daylight saving for years now and a referendum would be overwhelmingly successful but it is the strength of the no vote from the north and the west that has stopped any referendum (and likely at the moment MP's from the north holding the balance of power) At least splitting the DST zone would allow people as a whole to have what they want. I'm sure if the Federal Government decided that they wanted to nationalise DS and had a nationwide referendum so people from NSW and VIC could have a say on if you have DS you wouldn't be happy, likewise I don't think the northern and western minorities should get to dictate what SEQ has.
Yes Queensland narrowly voted against this in a referendum, once 24 yrs ago, ironically we just revisited 4 year government terms after the same period which got through, I think its only a matter of time before its successfully revisited.
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You will note that despite the debate north vs south no one in the south suggests DS in winter
Incorrect....
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Well you should have only voted once as there has only been one referendum in QLD 24yrs ago
I stand corrected , but there have been many political parties whom have governed Queensland have stated that Daylight Savings in Queensland is dead in the water.
Yes Queensland narrowly voted against this in a referendum, once 24 yrs ago, ironically we just revisited 4 year government terms after the same period which got through, I think its only a matter of time before its successfully revisited.
Queensland held a referendum on introducing daylight saving in 1992, which 54.5% of people voted against. This does not mean that 45.5% voted for daylight savings.
Premier rules out daylight savings referendum. News item dated 02/04/2016
But Ms Palaszczuk shot down the calls for another referendum in a tabled response and said her government had more pressing concerns.
"This government believes there are other priorities facing Queenslanders that require attention," she said.
"I am committed to leading a government built on consensus and consultation that is focused on creating jobs, growing the economy and delivering on key infrastructure projects and restoring integrity and accountability."
Introducing daylight saving does not have support from either side of politics, with an LNP spokeswoman confirming the opposition has "no plans to re-introduce daylight saving in Queensland".
The West of NSW operates on a different time zone to the rest of the state without any major issues I cant see any issue with allowing the north and west their own choice as to if they want to join SEQ or not.
Unlike the rest of New South Wales, Broken Hill (and the surrounding region) observes Australian Central Standard Time (UTC+9:30), the same time zone used in South Australia and the Northern Territory. This is because at the time the Australian dominions adopted standard time, Broken Hill's only direct rail link was with Adelaide, not Sydney
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This does not mean that 45.5% voted for daylight savings.
Most of what you have said and quoted I agree with but not sure what you mean by this.
Premier rules out daylight savings referendum.
As I mentioned I think its only a matter of time before its revisited, that wont be in the life of this parliament for various reasons, the biggest one being political expediency and the FNQ MP's holding the balance of power.
When the Premier uses phrases like "other priorities" and "There are no plans during this term of government to introduce daylight saving in Queensland" they are a not a the moment comment's not a never. It might be another 10+ years but I think it will eventually happen.
Unlike the rest of New South Wales, Broken Hill (and the surrounding region) observes Australian Central Standard Time
Yep, just as I said.
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Change your clock, change your smoke alarm battery!
Don't need to, I put QLD batteries in mine... ;D
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The West of NSW operates on a different time zone to the rest of the state without any major issues I cant see any issue with allowing the north and west their own choice as to if they want to join SEQ or not.
Unlike the rest of New South Wales, Broken Hill (and the surrounding region) observes Australian Central Standard Time (UTC+9:30), the same time zone used in South Australia and the Northern Territory. This is because at the time the Australian dominions adopted standard time, Broken Hill's only direct rail link was with Adelaide, not Sydney
Just on that, can anybody think of another state or Provence anywhere that has diffent time zones within its borders? Sorry OT
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Just had Easter hols down in daylight savings land. What a complete wank.
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Just on that, can anybody think of another state or Provence anywhere that has diffent time zones within its borders? Sorry OT
Yep
http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-australia24.php (http://www.worldtimezone.com/time-australia24.php)
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Broken Hill doesn't operate on EST. and it's in NSW.
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Keep in mind how far east Brisbane is. Sunrise there was 5.59 today, at Birdsville 6.30 and Melbourne 6.37.
So Brisbane has a 1/2 hour "daylight savings" advantage when the clock times are the same.
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Undemocratic, I don't buy this for a second government reports have said QLD as a whole is for daylight saving for years now and a referendum would be overwhelmingly successful but it is the strength of the no vote from the north and the west that has stopped any referendum (and likely at the moment MP's from the north holding the balance of power) At least splitting the DST zone would allow people as a whole to have what they want. I'm sure if the Federal Government decided that they wanted to nationalise DS and had a nationwide referendum so people from NSW and VIC could have a say on if you have DS you wouldn't be happy, likewise I don't think the northern and western minorities should get to dictate what SEQ has.
Yes Queensland narrowly voted against this in a referendum, once 24 yrs ago, ironically we just revisited 4 year government terms after the same period which got through, I think its only a matter of time before its successfully revisited.
Firstly, congratulations on doing some research and trying to understand the opposing point of view. You have done a lot more than many in the 'pro' crowd.
I would like to see the report that you are quoting that says the majority of QLDer's are for DS, as I would like to see the sample size and the demographics. The only people who I have come across that are 'strongly' for it are those that live close to the Tweed, and are directly impacted by interactions with NSW. I live on the northside of Brisbane, and have found that most around here simply don't care. They are neither for or against, and the common comment is - "I can't see a need for it, so I'll vote no". Getting into the CBD where I work, again I see mostly apathy. I work for a multinational, and we have offices in NSW and Vic, and whilst it is a bit of an inconvenience, I would not say it is a major impact to our working day to have misalignment with time zones. Unsurprisingly the further north and west you go the stronger the opposition to DS.
Sure, those close to the Tweed would find it a major headache, but why change the lifestyles of everyone else in QLD just to suit a minority? If a referendum was held tomorrow it would be strongly voted down, there just isn't enough of a push in the SE corner to get it over.
It is worth looking at the WA example, they had four shots at it and it failed each time. After the last vote the WA Premier made the comment that it shouldn't be looked at again for another 20 years. I am sure the QLD government was looking on with interest. And the current QLD Premier is right, there are more pressing things to worry about than DS. I for one would look to get rid of our unicameral parliament for starters which has much more importance than stuffing around with clocks.
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Another option would be to follow the Chinese (who are 1000km longer east to west) and only have 1 time zone.
Unsurprisingly that's set at Beijing time so I guess we would have to set it at Canberra time ???
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Just had Easter hols down in daylight savings land. What a complete wank.
Can you elaborate on that? or is this just an observation based on...... ummm..... nothing? ;D
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Holiday in NSW over Easter - you timelords can keep daylight saving all to yourselves.
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Holiday in NSW over Easter - you timelords can keep daylight saving all to yourselves.
haha, I don't see what the big deal is about, especially if you're on holidays. Your smartphone changes to the correct time zone time anyway, as does your GPS if you have it set up properly.... Yeah OK, might be a tad more difficult to set the time on your vehicle, if you would even worry about doing it.
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I find the notion rather absurd. That's why I voted against it last time. I was working in the gulf last time we tried it up here. We don't need to save it up here in summer we need to export it!
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Yeah, that's fair enough up there, but it works fine down here if you are working, I'm not now though, so it doesn't make any difference. When I was working, and traveling an hour each way to work, it gave me a bit extra daylight once I got home, to do things I normally would have to wait till the weekend to get done.
But as I said before, if you're on holidays, or not working, it doesn't really make any difference because you're not constrained by the clock.
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Yeah, that's fair enough up there, but it works fine down here if you are working, I'm not now though, so it doesn't make any difference. When I was working, and traveling an hour each way to work, it gave me a bit extra daylight once I got home, to do things I normally would have to wait till the weekend to get done.
But as I said before, if you're on holidays, or not working, it doesn't really make any difference because you're not constrained by the clock.
I think that's where it works well. Right location and for the 9-5 (so to speak) worker.
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Looks like we need a separate state to solve this.
Where do we cut it, north or south of Rocky ?
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I reckon a small civil war and move the Qld border down south a bit where no bastard lives (just North of Grafton? We don't want Grafton ;)) so the whole Tweed Heads thing gets sorted out and leave the Southern timelords to their devices.
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Nah if you do that take Grafton as well, we don't want it either 8)
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Firstly, congratulations on doing some research and trying to understand the opposing point of view. You have done a lot more than many in the 'pro' crowd.
I think if you don't you run the risk of rightly appearing like an uneducated fool.
I would like to see the report that you are quoting that says the majority of QLDer's are for DS, as I would like to see the sample size and the demographics.
There are a couple referred to here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_in_Australia#Queensland whilst they aren't recent I think the trend is hard to dispute especially with a lack of any studies/reports I have seen contradicting it.
If a referendum was held tomorrow it would be strongly voted down, there just isn't enough of a push in the SE corner to get it over.
Although most people you speak too aren't for it it I think it is more likely due to the circles you move in, especially in the face of government studies that point otherwise. I am interested to see however if you think it would be strongly voted down on the basis of personal experiences or wider studies taking into consideration a greater cross section of QLD.
It is worth looking at the WA example, they had four shots at it and it failed each time. After the last vote the WA Premier made the comment that it shouldn't be looked at again for another 20 years. I am sure the QLD government was looking on with interest.
I think WA are a very different state in many ways and although they may have looked on with some interest but I think there cant be comparisons to here in QLD are minimal. Due to the voting trend in WA I would agree that it shouldn't be revisited for a long time (unless there is an unlikely very large shift in public sentiment). It has been over 24yrs since it was visited here though so going on his comments we are well overdue to have another trial/referendum on it here in QLD.
And the current QLD Premier is right, there are more pressing things to worry about than DS. I for one would look to get rid of our unicameral parliament for starters which has much more importance than stuffing around with clocks.
I agree there are more important things, I haven't heard about any plans to introduce a second house here in QLD but agree in thinking it would be well worth the cost and be a great improvement. And yes while there might be other more important issues to deal with as well I dont think that then precludes dealing with DS as well, especially as they seem to be doing not to much anyway.
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Nah if you do that take Grafton as well, we don't want it either 8)
I'd rather have Daylight Savings!! ;D
I actually have fond memories of my time running a building project in Prince St for 6 months 11 years ago.
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I lived in Tweed heads area for a while. Over summer it was a bit of a pain getting used to living in NSW time zone, working with a Qld crew on Qld time. HAd to border hop to get to the shops after work, but was getting to view TV shows at two different times.
Not having lived or been in FNQ for any period of time I don't understand the problems with times up there, but I can't work out why Tassie wants it for so much of the year. In the middle of summer it's still light at 10pm at night.
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And your undies
Flip em inside out and you get twice as long.