Post by: listo on March 10, 2016, 06:58:43 PM
I filled up our triton a few weeks ago at the local woolworths caltex & I've had the worst fuel consumption I've ever had. So far for 3/4 of a tank (125l) I've just hit 600km. Has anyone else ever had a batch this bad?
I'm fueling up again tomorrow for the weekend at a different servo to see if it is the fuel or if there's something wrong with the car.
Cheers
Listo
Post by: Banjo16 on March 10, 2016, 07:51:47 PM
Post by: Foo on March 11, 2016, 05:15:22 AM
Foo
I'm coming behind you corkhead and I'm friggin bigger than you.
Post by: KingBilly on March 11, 2016, 05:29:21 AM
Vortex diesel gives me chit economy.
So what do you use instead? What gives you better economy?
KB
Post by: cruiser 91 on March 11, 2016, 06:36:03 AM
Fuel companies are supposed to take fuel samples on a regular basis and document.
Its a David vs Goliath scenario.
Post by: listo on March 11, 2016, 07:12:12 AM
Listo
Post by: Foo on March 11, 2016, 02:05:31 PM
So what do you use instead? What gives you better economy?
KB
Generally use Freedom and I'm not the only one to have found that the Vortex gives chit economy, a few others have found the same for some reason. ???
Foo
Post by: avotrol on March 13, 2016, 10:32:01 AM
I should add that the car is a GU Patrol TD42Ti so has old school pump and limited computer input.
Post by: edz on March 13, 2016, 10:52:10 AM
Im no EFI tech but Im guessing its old computer cant adapt to the different O2 and temp readings out side of its presets, so it pumps more fuel in and runs richer to try and cool the fuel burn mix as a safe guard to running too lean ..
Post by: Foo on March 13, 2016, 04:41:36 PM
That's strange, as on a trip from Sydney to Cairns and return, I found my economy and power increased quite noticeably filling up with Vortex. I really felt the difference when I filled up at some random servo north of Mackay and lost power and watched the fuel gauge fly down to zero. It was 3.5 years ago, so maybe Caltex have changed the diesel vortex formula ???.
I should add that the car is a GU Patrol TD42Ti so has old school pump and limited computer input.
From Bundy up, the fuel is/can be real crap and have a big impact on economy. This is what a mate of mine has found over the last few years. ;)
Foo
Post by: krisandkev on March 13, 2016, 07:17:49 PM
Post by: GeoffA on March 13, 2016, 08:19:31 PM
Post by: itchvet on March 14, 2016, 06:30:22 PM
G'day all,
I filled up our triton a few weeks ago at the local woolworths caltex & I've had the worst fuel consumption I've ever had. So far for 3/4 of a tank (125l) I've just hit 600km. Has anyone else ever had a batch this bad?
I'm fueling up again tomorrow for the weekend at a different servo to see if it is the fuel or if there's something wrong with the car.
Cheers
Listo
Listo, the way I understand this issue, is you need to check/change your fuel filter which may be blocked and the pump is sucking real hard to get the fuel thru. Try it and see.
The other thing, I NEVER, EVER use Caltex fuel, last time I did, the tanker was refilling the underground tanks and I never paid too much attention to it, filled up the Patrol and took off, half a block from home there was a bang, the engine cut out and there was very strong smell of diesel. Hopped out to investigate, found the fuel filter had inexpicably blown straight off it's thread and was just lying there diesel all over the place.
Moral of the story, excess water/crap in diesel blocked to fuel pump and pressure simply blew the thing off, replaced with a new filter, no further probs.
Post by: KingBilly on March 14, 2016, 08:28:59 PM
Listo, the way I understand this issue, is you need to check/change your fuel filter which may be blocked and the pump is sucking real hard to get the fuel thru. Try it and see.
The other thing, I NEVER, EVER use Caltex fuel, last time I did, the tanker was refilling the underground tanks and I never paid too much attention to it, filled up the Patrol and took off, half a block from home there was a bang, the engine cut out and there was very strong smell of diesel. Hopped out to investigate, found the fuel filter had inexpicably blown straight off it's thread and was just lying there diesel all over the place.
Moral of the story, excess water/crap in diesel blocked to fuel pump and pressure simply blew the thing off, replaced with a new filter, no further probs.
Humbly suggest the problem was not with the fuel being Vortex, but the fact the tanks were being filled and all the crap and water in the tank was being stirred up.
KB
Post by: GeoffA on March 14, 2016, 08:30:32 PM
Humbly suggest the problem was not with the fuel being Vortex, but the fact the tanks were being filled and all the crap and water in the tank was being stirred up.
KB
Agree with that KB
:cheers:
Post by: listo on March 14, 2016, 09:03:53 PM
I filled up at BP on Friday, we've done almost 400km & have only just gone under the 3/4 mark. I know the rest will drop quickly, but it's already looking better, fingers crossed. I worked the last tank out to being 15.01L/100km. We'll see how we go now... No more woolworths fuel for me though, that was terrible!
For the record, it wasn't vortex, we can't get that in Roma... Sounds like we don't want it anyway
Post by: bergersau on March 14, 2016, 09:39:02 PM
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Post by: Fizzie on March 15, 2016, 07:11:32 AM
If that's the only servo in town / the area & you manage to crack it for the time the tanker is there, how long would you have to wait before filling to avoid getting a load of dirty vroom?
Post by: chester ver2.0 on March 15, 2016, 07:42:44 AM
Post by: RebsWA on March 15, 2016, 10:00:02 AM
Not trying to be a smart-a here, but how long would it take for the tank to settle again?
If that's the only servo in town / the area & you manage to crack it for the time the tanker is there, how long would you have to wait before filling to avoid getting a load of dirty vroom?
Not sure that it is such a problem. A tanker must stir up the fuel in the tank a bit sure, but the pick up pipe to feed the bowsers is at the bottom of the tank down with any crapp anyway.
Bit like folk who don't run their vehicle fuel tank too low for the same misguided logic.
Post by: BaseCamp on March 15, 2016, 10:58:09 AM
If you're down to your last 10ltrs of diesel at the bottom of the tank; and you have a lot of crap in there.... you are in a worse position than if same said amount of crap is diluted with say 50 ltrs of vroom... -- Right.
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Post by: bergersau on March 15, 2016, 11:16:43 AM
If I have no choice, I'd personally wait for 10-15 mins to give things a chance to settle a bit in the tanks. Good excuse to check fluid levels and tire pressures and wash the windows down anyway.
Of course if the tanker is decanting petrol and you need diesel - no problem. Just need to look at the labels over the tanker hoses to see
Post by: Straitened Out on March 15, 2016, 11:33:19 AM
Cheers
S.O.
Post by: Beachman on March 15, 2016, 12:21:51 PM
My 4WD is now 12 years old and I’ve owned it for 6 of those years and it has close to 190 000 kms on the clock. Last year I decided to run both tanks until the fuel light came on and drain both tanks to see what came out.
I have to say I was very surprised as neither tank had any visible water and only a couple of fine grains of dirt came out.
Post by: cardinal28 on March 15, 2016, 12:29:20 PM
Post by: RebsWA on March 15, 2016, 01:34:09 PM
Not sure about that???
If you're down to your last 10ltrs of diesel at the bottom of the tank; and you have a lot of crap in there.... you are in a worse position than if same said amount of crap is diluted with say 50 ltrs of vroom... -- Right.
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Where do you think the pick up pipe is in your tank?
Its down there in the last 10 litres (all the time) in amongst the "crapp" that is swishing around as you drive!