Post by: Cruiser 105Tvan on February 23, 2016, 09:58:34 PM
Poor little fella.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-23/boy-four-suffers-significant-burns-campfire/7194436 (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-23/boy-four-suffers-significant-burns-campfire/7194436)
They'll want childproof fences around campfires now.
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Post by: timmyh80 on February 25, 2016, 06:39:27 AM
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Post by: Beachman on February 25, 2016, 08:17:27 AM
I’m also big on telling kids day/night never walk on what they believe is an old fire because as far as they know people may have just left and it’s still hot.
But very sad for that little boy.
Post by: Snapman007 on February 25, 2016, 08:21:00 AM
Hope the little dude heals soon.
Post by: macca on February 25, 2016, 09:35:36 AM
Hope the little bloke is OK , my grandson is 4 and i would hate to think what he and his family are going thru at the moment
Post by: Banjo16 on February 25, 2016, 12:32:18 PM
Poor kid, parents were probably pissed and not supervising the child .
Might be a bit harsh, but probably true.
Post by: trevc on February 25, 2016, 12:42:50 PM
Might be a bit harsh, but probably true.
Based on what???
Some of you blokes are quick to throw mud with absolutely no facts tk back it up.
T
Post by: The punter on February 25, 2016, 01:07:49 PM
Based on what???
Some of you blokes are quick to throw mud with absolutely no facts tk back it up.
T
Based on the fact that parenting is now a very loose concept, resulting in nanny state laws to protect kids from dumbarses that should probably not have had them in the first place. It's also just as likely that it was a very unfortunate accident.
The number of "parents" you see out and about that think it's ok to let their kids do pretty well whatever the hell they like is escalating. This will more and more result in injuries to kids that deserve better, it's the "entitled" generation, get used to it.
Post by: macca on February 25, 2016, 01:33:30 PM
NO WAY
There are plenty of good parents and plenty of good kids out there
Post by: The punter on February 25, 2016, 03:52:04 PM
What accept the fact that a four year old has fallen in a fire.
NO WAY
There are plenty of good parents and plenty of good kids out there
Covered by my unfortunate accident disclaimer :police:
Post by: austastar on February 25, 2016, 04:57:26 PM
Tragedy! But avoidable.
I'v been around families with kids near a large spontaneously communal fire and really have a hard time not interfering with potential accidents I see, just waiting to happen. Their kids are their business, not mine and some can be very protective of that.
Pools have rules like "no running", "no jumping" etc, and they are much more forgiving than hot coals and flames.
It seems some parents are oblivious to the potential of kids running excitedly between adults and the fire, chairs and the fire and generally behaving like the fire is a nice warm benign happening with all the danger of an innerspring mattress.
If it is an organised trip, with a trip leader, it is so much easer to gather the parents and kids as the fire is being lit and run through the 'rules' and involve the kids in answering why we have the rules and what could happen if the rules are ignored.
Cheers
Post by: Terry W4 on February 25, 2016, 05:04:42 PM
Post by: Champin on February 25, 2016, 07:03:15 PM
Even us adults have to be careful. Last year in central Queensland when moving to put some more timber on the campfire I tripped on one of the laces on my walking boots and fell into the side of the fire. Quickly rolled out of it and made sure I was not on fire. If I fell into the middle might have been a different story.See? Kids of ALL ages should be closely watched around open fires. :laugh:
Shee ite. Accidents happen to all of us. Easy to throw the blame without the facts.
Post by: trevc on February 25, 2016, 08:02:17 PM
Based on the fact that parenting is now a very loose concept, resulting in nanny state laws to protect kids from dumbarses that should probably not have had them in the first place. It's also just as likely that it was a very unfortunate accident.
The number of "parents" you see out and about that think it's ok to let their kids do pretty well whatever the hell they like is escalating. This will more and more result in injuries to kids that deserve better, it's the "entitled" generation, get used to it.
Spoken like every older generation about every younger generation.
Oh and I knew somehow it would be the governments fault.
Post by: xcvator on February 25, 2016, 08:17:19 PM
Spoken like every older generation about every younger generation.Well isn't it :angel: :angel:
Oh and I knew somehow it would be the governments fault.
Post by: The punter on February 25, 2016, 10:24:13 PM
Spoken like every older generation about every younger generation.
Oh and I knew somehow it would be the governments fault.
Where did I say it was the government's fault that this kid got burned exactly?
Post by: Nomad on February 25, 2016, 11:02:18 PM
Based on the fact that parenting is now a very loose concept, resulting in nanny state laws to protect kids from dumbarses that should probably not have had them in the first place. It's also just as likely that it was a very unfortunate accident.
The number of "parents" you see out and about that think it's ok to let their kids do pretty well whatever the hell they like is escalating. This will more and more result in injuries to kids that deserve better, it's the "entitled" generation, get used to it.
What a pi$$ ant bunch of Sh!te.
I have two young children and they are probably better behaved, educated and aware of there surroundings than either you or I ever were.
I can't believe you make such a broad brushed comment in your first statement and then say " It's also just as likely that it was a very unfortunate accident"
Talk about taking an each way bet.
As for the age of entitlement comment well that just goes to show how out of touch you seem to be. My generation pays way more tax than yours ever did, has significantly less superannuation benefits than yours had and will work for much longer before being able to access it, pays full price for a university education when yours got it for free even if you were as dumb as a post.
So which generation was it that had the age of entitlement?
Post by: macca on February 26, 2016, 05:18:24 AM
Where did I say it was the government's fault that this kid got burned exactly?Maybe your reference to nanny state laws.
While we're generallising, what if this dad that is sitting at home at the moment, distraught that his kid is seriously injured lying in hospital, beating himself up as to what he may or may not have done wrong happens to be a Myswagger and is reading how he is a piss head and a dumbar$e etc.
Why not give this family the benefit of the doubt until proved otherwise
Post by: BigJules on February 26, 2016, 06:37:00 AM
We know nothing of the role of parenting in this situation, the Govt probably wasn't there and I don't recall any/many laws around campfires and kids. Maybe a Nissan driver pushed the kid? Of course not!
How about just expressing some empathy and compassion and maybe how you positively parented your kids so they were aware of the dangers of fires, or how you had a close call, because that can happen.
Post by: scrapsD40 on February 26, 2016, 06:51:58 AM
I was lucky to be brought up by salt of the earth parents that instilled respect and knowledge in me and my siblings. That doesn't mean they were perfect as who is, but we learnt by being outdoors and through the school of hard knocks.
I'm hoping I've carried this through to my sons who were both camping, fishing and toasting marshmallows over campfires before they could walk.
They have an understanding of risk and danger not through reading about it on line.
While everyone is entitled to an opinion, Jules, be careful with the Nissan jokes
Post by: The punter on February 26, 2016, 07:32:41 AM
Maybe your reference to nanny state laws.
While we're generallising, what if this dad that is sitting at home at the moment, distraught that his kid is seriously injured lying in hospital, beating himself up as to what he may or may not have done wrong happens to be a Myswagger and is reading how he is a piss head and a dumbar$e etc.
Why not give this family the benefit of the doubt until proved otherwise
Fair enough.
I wasn't calling the parent in this case a dumbarse btw, my comments were in response to a previous one about "why would you say that". They were quoted without that context
This is also why I said it could have just as easily been an accident.
Post by: oldmate on February 27, 2016, 06:53:40 AM
Hey posters, try not to turn everything that gets posted into an argument, complaint or criticism.
We know nothing of the role of parenting in this situation, the Govt probably wasn't there and I don't recall any/many laws around campfires and kids. Maybe a Nissan driver pushed the kid? Of course not!
How about just expressing some empathy and compassion and maybe how you positively parented your kids so they were aware of the dangers of fires, or how you had a close call, because that can happen.
X2 mate.
Post by: Troopy_03 on February 27, 2016, 08:15:15 AM
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Post by: Troopy_03 on February 27, 2016, 10:22:06 AM
What about the walkers at the bottom of the canyon that the rock clobbered on the head?Exactly, it's actually what I wrote on the last line LOL
Post by: oldmate on February 27, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
Exactly, it's actually what I wrote on the last line LOL
:-X oops. Lol