Post by: Black Diamond on January 06, 2016, 03:52:41 PM
The old 80 is starting to get a few spots of rust especially around the tailgate window so looking at stopping it from progressing too much. It lives outside so thinking I need to knock it on the head.
It's no show pony and rust is inevitable but slowing the process is my main objective. Bit late as some of it has progressed but I'm slack ;D
The old tried and trusted method of fish oil comes to mind, haven't really used it before but also looking to do the same to the CT. Question is are the cans you buy over the counter adequate? Brands people are using? How often and how liberal?
Is it a matter of just point and spray using a nozzle around jams and window seals etc.
I know a couple of panel beaters but I'm more interested in real time feedback.
What's the best way to tackle this rust in this pic?
Cheers in advance :cheers:
Post by: achjimmy on January 06, 2016, 03:57:19 PM
Post by: Black Diamond on January 06, 2016, 04:04:17 PM
Glass out and know it on the head now BD. You can try rust convertors etc but if it was mine I'd fix it properly. As for rustproofing the body I'd use tectyl from valvoline. It's a waxy residue and sticks well.Cheers for that mate, yeh glass out is the go for that section. Will give it a go at repairing it, any suggestions on the best way to get rid of the rust and what to use?
Post by: Humphreythebear on January 06, 2016, 05:53:48 PM
Google it , but they use it in the Antarctic on equipment and ships / boats .
I've used it on cars , at present my 1969 valiant is due for a recoat - last done in 2008 .
It's is a thick wax and works well - can be buffed to a high shine if you like , I used to work for jaguar cars and have used a thick cavity wax in all my cars - one had to heat it to get it to flow ......
But as others have suggested it's best to fix it right , once . Then you won't need to do again for 20 Yrs .
The Ankor Wax can be purchased from bus n bug in Melbourne
Post by: edz on January 06, 2016, 07:31:31 PM
Cut up some foam wedges to block all the drain holes .. Mix up a batch of 60 / 40 Tectryl / diesel mix [ diesel helps run the tectryl up inside seams and leaves it behind to seal it when it evaporates ] and spray it up into the door top frame channels [ use an extention hose and small 360* nozzle on the gun to reach ] get up into the areas were the roof joins the side panels [ ANYWHERE THERE IS A SEAM OR JOINT ON THE BODY ] give it a good dousing .. Remove the wiper cowl vent panel and clean out the cowl drains and coat in there / up under the dash on the firewall seam too .
Undersides clean and spray inside any body chassis panel box sections that are accessible then a liberal top coat over all floor / undersides insides of panels / doors etc ...
Dont use to high a preasure as it turns the mix into a mist and doesnt coat real well .. you will be and anything you dont cover will be a sticky mess.. park over an old tarp for a week or so to catch any drips .. Try to keep out of the rain for a week or so and " DONT " forget to remove the foam drain blocks
I used a about 3ltr of tectryl mixed this way to do a ford escort 2 door shell .ovekilled but did its job .
Post by: Black Diamond on January 06, 2016, 07:39:01 PM
Post by: Swannie on January 06, 2016, 07:51:20 PM
Swannie
Post by: Black Diamond on January 06, 2016, 08:16:28 PM
If you need a hand taking the glass out just askWill do mate I'll let you know :cheers:
Swannie
Post by: achjimmy on January 07, 2016, 06:50:35 AM
Post by: Hoyks on January 07, 2016, 09:43:25 AM
I used the spray cans of Tectyl in the past. They do an OK job, but only when you can point the nozzle at it directly. It is a bit difficult to get the right angle on the nozzle so the stuff goes where you want it. I was doing a Suzuki Sierra, so pulling door trims off wasn't that hard, but on other vehicles it is a pain.
I know a guy that used a 1 and a bit meter length of that 5mm micro irrigation tube with the little plastic sprayers on the end. It was attached to the washer gun and fed up inside channels and the body work. His reasoning was that if a plastic sprayer fell off inside a panel it doesn't matter. They are not big enough to rattle and won't induce corrosion. He also restored Alfas, and if you didn't do something they would rust before your eyes.
The important thing is to get the stuff into the seams as that is where the water and gunk gets trapped and the rust generally develops.
I used one of these jiggers.
(http://media.supercheapauto.com.au/sca/images/156475.jpg)
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Blackridge-Air-Engine-Cleaning-Gun-750mL.aspx?pid=156475#Recommendations (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Blackridge-Air-Engine-Cleaning-Gun-750mL.aspx?pid=156475#Recommendations)
Post by: Black Diamond on January 07, 2016, 04:07:15 PM
Post by: scarpsD40 on January 07, 2016, 04:35:41 PM
Cheers for that all great advice thank you. Will do it in the next few weeks, hopefully I don't find too much more in all the nooks and cranny's :cheers:BD, if it all gets too messy and hard maybe you could always trade up to Australia's most powerful tradie ...........maaaaaaate;D
Post by: dales133 on January 07, 2016, 04:53:00 PM
Trust you scarps.
My 80 was factory tectyled and theres no rust anywhere.
The roof paints Shit as is the top of the top back door witch i need to deal with.
Tectyl or however you spell it rocks in my book
Post by: Black Diamond on January 07, 2016, 05:29:04 PM
BD, if it all gets too messy and hard maybe you could always trade up to Australia's most powerful tradie ...........maaaaaaate;DYeh good one Scraps ;D. Although the 80 is no powerhouse on the blacktop, it's true colours are exposed when in low range. Let's see how well you can keep up on some harder tracks which I'm happy to take you on next time.
Now GAGF :P :P :-* :-*
:cheers:
Post by: scarpsD40 on January 07, 2016, 05:30:30 PM
Yeh good one Scraps ;D. Although the 80 is no powerhouse on the blacktop, it's true colours are exposed when in low range. Let's see how well you can keep up on some harder tracks which I'm happy to take you on next time.lol....;D
Now GAGF :P :P :-* :-*
:cheers:
You know I'd come and help if needed. Angle Grinder or sanding off the bog.....or drinking your grog;D
Post by: GeoffA on January 07, 2016, 05:32:24 PM
Yeh good one Scraps ;D........
;D ;D
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2016, 05:42:09 PM
My cousin's sister-in-laws's mother's uncle has had one on his 80 series since new, and no rust whatsoever. Save the mess and buy one of these
KB
PS And for that bit of rust around your window, the best rust treatment I have found is freshly squeezed snake oil. I sell it for $100/10ml. Can offer a discount to swaggers. Just use the code "CUMINSUCKER" at checkout
Post by: Black Diamond on January 07, 2016, 05:57:31 PM
Maaaate, can recommend these https://www.couplertec.com.au (https://www.couplertec.com.au):cup: you sell dot paintings as well? ;D
My cousin's sister-in-laws's mother's uncle has had one on his 80 series since new, and no rust whatsoever. Save the mess and but one of these
KB
PS And for that bit of rust around your window, the best rust treatment I have found is freshly squeezed snake oil. I sell it for $100/10ml. Can offer a discount to swaggers. Just use the code "CUMINSUCKER" at checkout
Post by: KingBilly on January 07, 2016, 06:12:50 PM
KB
Post by: scrapsD40 on January 08, 2016, 09:35:20 AM
;D ;Dfixed
Post by: McGirr on January 08, 2016, 09:41:36 AM
Nah, but I have a mate who does. Maybe we can organise a myswag meet at his place. Just need a small donation from everybody to cover the cost of grading the access road.
KB
Did someone mention dot paintings. I have plenty plus they also stop rust. Just buy 3, cover the affected area with them, and the rust will disappear. :cheers:
Mark