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Title: Heating?
Post by: Sickgm on January 02, 2016, 09:12:47 AM
Hey guys?

Just wanted to get an idea of what you are using for heating if any, in your campers when out bush?

I just purchased one of these and was after some thoughts.

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Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: gronk on January 02, 2016, 09:38:18 AM
And a good doona for the bed !
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Post by: Bird on January 02, 2016, 09:44:23 AM
Search for diesel heaters....

I usually find good bedding is good enough.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: glenm64 on January 02, 2016, 09:44:44 AM


I just purchased one of these and was after some thoughts.

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Danger Will Robertson, Danger!!

Cheers Glen

Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: Bird on January 02, 2016, 10:01:50 AM

Danger Will Robertson, Danger!!

Cheers Glen
that's my first thought.. I just didn't wanna say it LOL!
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Post by: tracker on January 02, 2016, 11:07:29 AM

Danger Will Robertson, Danger!!

Cheers Glen

 I Sooooo agree !!
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Post by: Sickgm on January 02, 2016, 11:11:01 AM
Please explain? I missed the joke....

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Post by: GFM449 on January 02, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
Absolutely agree with the comments above.....

We had a Diesel heater in our previous Expanda and they are the ducks nuts. Extremely simple to operate and blast out a ton of warm air. And very safe too which is important. Have a check on Ebay and you will find some you can install yourself if you are reasonably handy. Its not very hard.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: duggie on January 02, 2016, 11:16:35 AM
Please explain? I missed the joke....

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Open gas fire inside a canvas walled structure !   ??? ???

Gas fire goes out, gas still leaking into sleeping area !  ??? ???

 Build up of carbon dioxide/monoxide from the gas fire !  ??? ???

Need I say more.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: GFM449 on January 02, 2016, 11:18:52 AM
There have been a few fatalities as a result of using heaters of this nature in small spaces such as campers and caravans. Not recommended.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: Sickgm on January 02, 2016, 11:20:14 AM
This unit has some safety device that cuts the gas should anything happen. I have heard and witnessed many caravan users ignite their stove tops to keep their vans warm.

I guess safety is the main concern.


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Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: glenm64 on January 02, 2016, 01:32:52 PM
It will also consume oxygen as well as producing CO.
Gas or diesel heating has seperate fuel burning  (ducted outside) and warm air (internal) systems with safety devices built in.

Cheers Glen

Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: feisty on January 02, 2016, 05:51:03 PM
I use a portable gas heater to warm the tent for 15 min before bed.  I never have it on when anyone is in the camper. I Remove it when the tent is warm and time for bed. Then I rely on the electric blanket. Camping doesn't necessarily mean you have to rough it. 
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: gronk on January 02, 2016, 07:56:43 PM
I use a portable gas heater to warm the tent for 15 min before bed.  I never have it on when anyone is in the camper. I Remove it when the tent is warm and time for bed. Then I rely on the electric blanket. Camping doesn't necessarily mean you have to rough it.

Of course not......but a good doona and flanno sheets are as good as any elect blanket.

We at least wear a tee shirt to bed in winter and the 10 secs of cold that it takes to get into bed isn't a problem for us old folk !!  :-*
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: BaseCamp on January 02, 2016, 09:06:43 PM
I was in a caravan in Glen Innes DEC 28th.....   $@&£? freeezing overnight @ 8 degrees c.....   Wished I had some heating atm....   freakn redicilious

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Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: gronk on January 03, 2016, 07:21:38 AM
I was in a caravan in Glen Innes DEC 28th.....   $@&£? freeezing overnight @ 8 degrees c.....   Wished I had some heating atm....   freakn redicilious

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You didn't have warm bedding then.....8deg is nice sleeping weather.

Anything less than 4deg is cold, but with a good doona you'd be warm as toast !!

Been camping in minus 4deg and still nice and warm in bed,  but sure hard to leave the campfire though.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: GFM449 on January 03, 2016, 07:28:23 AM
One thing a lot of people forget but has been discussed on here numerous times is that they forget to insulate the bottom of the bed from the cold. A lot of cold comes up from underneath if not properly insulated. No matter how many layers you have on top if cold can come up you will stay cold all night.
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Post by: GeoffA on January 03, 2016, 07:30:43 AM
One thing a lot of people forget but has been discussed on here numerous times is that they forget to insulate the bottom of the bed from the cold. A lot of cold comes up from underneath if not properly insulated. No matter how many layers you have on top if cold can come up you will stay cold all night.

....and closing all hatches/doors on the trailer also helps a lot.....
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Post by: shrek4 on January 03, 2016, 07:41:31 AM
If you are going to use it for some peace of mind you could insatall a carbon monoxide detector and a gas detector. The carbon one is mounted high and the gas low.

At least you'll get an alarm if either levels are detected at dangerous levels.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: Bongo on January 03, 2016, 01:59:42 PM
The main heating I use is my lovely lady. I am not sure what would be more dangerous her or an open gas flame. Seriously don't use the gas heater in a confined space you might not wake up again
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: Bongo on January 03, 2016, 02:06:26 PM
From news.com.au;

"IT HAS no modus operandi. It’s indiscriminate, and it strikes when you least expect.
Carbon monoxide is a silent, odourless and toxic gas that once unleashed can render a person unconscious in an instant, and take their life within minutes.
It is believed this invisible killer claimed the lives of a young Sydney couple as they holidayed in the Blue Mountains at the weekend.
The pair had been staying in a makeshift cabin overlooking Days Gulley and had used a wood chip heater to keep warm as temperatures dropped overnight.
The tragedy has been a painful reminder for Vanessa Robinson, who lost her two sons to the silent killer just over five years ago.
Chase, 8, and Tyler, 6, were sleeping with their mother in her bed when they inhaled the deadly fumes from a leaking gas heater in their Victorian home in 2010.
Ms Robinson told news.com.au that every time she heard of another carbon monoxide death, she was reminded of what she lost, and also how preventable the latest deaths could have been.
“Sometimes it still just hits me that I can’t believe that my children have died because of a gas heater,” she said. “It’s hard to wrap your head around."
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: BaseCamp on January 03, 2016, 03:07:57 PM
You didn't have warm bedding then.....8deg is nice sleeping weather.

Anything less than 4deg is cold, but with a good doona you'd be warm as toast !!

Been camping in minus 4deg and still nice and warm in bed,  but sure hard to leave the campfire though.
Thanks for the valuable tips....

True - being Queenslanders....    we had no idea that parts of Oz could be as cold as that in the middle of December. ...    (excluding Alpine areas; and Tassie etc....).

The day before our BNE departure we just happened to mention to one of our suppliers that we would be spending Christmas near Armidale ...  when he said  hmm...  "better pack a coat...."   We just looked at him and thought  .. "What the @#%¥"....   But luckily for us we did at least pack a couple of coats - thanks to his tip....

Now we are waiting for the Aldi sale on WED  to buy some bedding stuff -- permanently for the van....

The van had no heating; doonas; flannos; etc....






From news.com.au;

"IT HAS no modus operandi. It’s indiscriminate, and it strikes when you least expect.
Carbon monoxide is a silent, odourless and toxic gas that once unleashed can render a person unconscious in an instant, and take their life within minutes.
It is believed this invisible killer claimed the lives of a young Sydney couple as they holidayed in the Blue Mountains at the weekend.
The pair had been staying in a makeshift cabin overlooking Days Gulley and had used a wood chip heater to keep warm as temperatures dropped overnight.
The tragedy has been a painful reminder for Vanessa Robinson, who lost her two sons to the silent killer just over five years ago.
Chase, 8, and Tyler, 6, were sleeping with their mother in her bed when they inhaled the deadly fumes from a leaking gas heater in their Victorian home in 2010.
Ms Robinson told news.com.au that every time she heard of another carbon monoxide death, she was reminded of what she lost, and also how preventable the latest deaths could have been.
“Sometimes it still just hits me that I can’t believe that my children have died because of a gas heater,” she said. “It’s hard to wrap your head around."


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Post by: plusnq on January 03, 2016, 03:31:57 PM
Thanks for the valuable tips....

True - being Queenslanders....    we had no idea that parts of Oz could be as cold as that in the middle of December. ...    (excluding Alpine areas; and Tassie etc....).

The day before our BNE departure we just happened to mention to one of our suppliers that we would be spending Christmas near Armidale ...  when he said  hmm...  "better pack a coat...."   We just looked at him and thought  .. "What the @#%¥"....   But luckily for us we did at least pack a couple of coats - thanks to his tip....

Now we are waiting for the Aldi sale on WED  to buy some bedding stuff -- permanently for the van....

The van had no heating; doonas; flannos; etc....







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I bet you were popular  ;D ;D

My missus would make me drive to the nearest motel whatever it cost.
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: BaseCamp on January 04, 2016, 12:19:28 AM
Nah...   we just shivered and shook the whole night..  (including the cat - LOL).....

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Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: austastar on January 04, 2016, 09:28:41 AM
Hi,

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Best thing since sliced bread.
Cheers
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Post by: gronk on January 04, 2016, 10:04:59 AM
But Tasmania is another world !!   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: austastar on January 04, 2016, 01:11:09 PM
Hi,
   So is Kanungra Walls!

Cheers
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Post by: MDS69 on January 04, 2016, 01:48:59 PM
Of course not......but a good doona and flanno sheets are as good as any elect blanket.

We at least wear a tee shirt to bed in winter and the 10 secs of cold that it takes to get into bed isn't a problem for us old folk !!  :-*

but you lot are in bed at 6.00pm ;)
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: gronk on January 04, 2016, 02:02:03 PM
but you lot are in bed at 6.00pm ;)

Ha,ha......these 2 "old folk" are usually in bed AFTER the young ones !!   I sneak off to bed just before the missus.....that way she get's to put the fire out !!   :cup:
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: alnjan on January 04, 2016, 05:36:32 PM
Hi,

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Best thing since sliced bread.
Cheers

Diesel or gas?
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: austastar on January 04, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Hi,
   Diesel.
Pro.
More heat per volume of fuel.
Easier for me to install.
Runs off a removable tank, so spare vehicle fuel.

Anti.
8 Amp to glow plug start.
Noise from impulse pump.

I would consider gas in warmer climates or on a camper with 9kg gas bottles.

Cheers
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: GeoffA on January 04, 2016, 06:38:41 PM
The noise from some heaters is not good, especially for those camping nearby.

Heater (some) = the new generator...... >:(
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: glenm64 on January 04, 2016, 06:49:34 PM
Ive got a gas one and onky run 4.5kg bottles.
Very economical.


Cheers Glen

Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: MrCruza on January 04, 2016, 06:49:50 PM
We've got an electric blanket in our camper for those chilly nights. Works a treat  ;D
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: gronk on January 04, 2016, 07:41:12 PM
The noise from some heaters is not good, especially for those camping nearby.

Heater (some) = the new generator...... >:(

1st time I heard one I thought a jet was coming into land !!   :P

One of these running at 10pm  is not friendly camping !
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Post by: peter01 on January 04, 2016, 07:44:15 PM
we she has 4 hot water bottles
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Post by: xcvator on January 04, 2016, 09:58:54 PM
For a powered area use a small fan heater  :D for unpowered areas the only way to go is an in built gas/diesel fuelled heater  :cup: :cup: :cup:
Why  ???

Both have multiple uses, ie;, hair dryer, clothes dryer, camper warmer,body warmer, none of the other things do all that safely
Title: Re: Heating?
Post by: austastar on January 05, 2016, 08:38:42 AM
Hi,
     The hair dryer bit is a big hit with the navigator.
Cheers